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you're not much of a risk taker are you? Why should I be in this context? Original poster made his bet; I bet he's wrong. (Shrug.) I mean, I could offer 3 to 1 odds or something, but given the OP's post, why should I? ah ha - 'risk adverse' is incorrect. More of an 'opportunist' PT Barnum style. that I can appreciate ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

you're not much of a risk taker are you? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

regardless of the outcome, we still all lose. so then a drink sounds good ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

nearly 50% of the time? - sweet. better than some science project projections ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

I can think of at least a dozen high school sophomores that could write a commentary with less blatant stereotyping and strawmen and intellectual laziness about both parties than this guy just did. Read like a typical SC thread. so anything new here? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

crap - that MORE info that I didn't have now I'm really conflicted - I don't like either of those things. No sirree. not one bit ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

Just started this thread for some fun yup - and Wendy's proposal sounds like a lot of fun (I just want a fairly clean election and hope that it's VERY close so neither team rapes the taxpayers by thinking they won a "mandate" of any kind. We need to dramatically cut spending, and I don't see that regardless of the outcome.) ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

or, it's just time to stop it and check the results Wed morning ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

sweet - actually, after the open 4-way, I'm looking forward to the VFS vids.... ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

Probably on July 4th or New Years Eve. That's when American gun nuts like to shoot their bullets into the air. I'm hanging out under a bridge where it's safe. At weddings they just get drunk and obnoxious. Is this DD? you're only allowed one account here ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

It's not so much a disagreement, or right vs wrong, it's just opinions. We simply work from different starting points. It is pretty simple - you consider the feds to be king and I consider the states to be king - I respect your well meaning and horribly erroneous position as one well thought out and well intentioned with it's own merits that I understand, I just don't agree everything else pretty much falls from that and our discussions are predictable as can be on the subject what I really like, is that you stay on message despite which party is likely to benefit each time have a great weekend (I'm not sure I was here in '01) in short - I ignore your assumption that for your philosophy to work, all 50 states have to change the voting process to popular vote You ignore my assumption that under the current rules, each state can proportion their electoral votes and have no right to change what other states do then we both talk past each other based on our preferred ignorance . It's the SC way.... ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

were you able to write that with a straight face? California -55 Texas-38 Florida -29 New York-29 You brought up Florida, not me. How much time have Romney and Obama spent courting California, Texas, or New York? Blues, Dave I cut and pasted the top four from Lawrocket's. Go back, I've fleshed out (edited) my comment to your meaning ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

were you able to write that with a straight face? California -55 Texas-38 New York-29 the states that already are very partisan? If they want more attention, all they have to do is choose to issue electoral votes in a proportional fashion (and realize it's none of their business if other states choose not to) seriously - each state gets to choose how they use their electoral votes - it's not required to be winner take all - so complaining about it being a national issue is silly - each person has the ability to lobby their individual state for a change ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

I wouldn't even start to compare the EU of today vs the original intent of the founders from over 200 years ago. The US was about independence, the EU is about dependence and social/fiscal leverage. it's a totally different goal 'given up' - or had it wrest from, legislated away, or blackmailed$$$ from them? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

but 'blurring the boundaries' does not have to result in giving up the right of self determination - it's supposed to result in more understanding and respect for others to have that very thing ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

I think that's exactly the debate that's been going on for the last 100 years or so. All else can just be shown as symptoms of the that debate. Certainly the founders would say we've absolutely gone too far. At least from the original intent. But, IMHO, that's a moot point in the debate in today's context other than would we agree on not with the original intent. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

no - the definition is closest to being the chief executive of a collection of independent states ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

nonsense - can't blame CULTURE and attitudes and training you must blame the evil object property is bad ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

Were it not for the guns fired in the air, the power line would not have fallen, and those 23 people would still be alive and basking in the happy glow of a beautiful wedding and marriage. The gunfire was the direct and initiating cause of the event that led to the deaths. nonsense - ban weddings ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

yes, only the extreme right will do that the extreme left never twists or spins things we have zero examples where the two parties, in an election year, have spun current events or incidents or speeches or ..........., to try to put their own side in the most positive light and the other side in a negative light That is not what I said. The far left does it as much as the far right, I agree with that. I was referring to this particular speech. Given the person that made it, I can see many on the right using it as proof that Obama is a communist. ok - I get that (I'm really sorry, as I know the normal speaker's corner tactic is to respond that now you're backpedaling, and that you're fanatically partisan, and that etc etc etc - and then we bicker for a page or two about what you REALLY meant and then suck in Rush and Kallend and a couple others with the normal crap, and then a couple other regular crowd leaps in with the normal vitriol,............. but, I believe you, and I hate that tactic) ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

they get them at a discount from the government - once the batteries on the trackers wear out, they are really pretty nice

yes, only the extreme right will do that the extreme left never twists or spins things we have zero examples where the two parties, in an election year, have spun current events or incidents or speeches or ..........., to try to put their own side in the most positive light and the other side in a negative light ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

but, Wendy,.....everybody's doing it try it, you'll like it ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

Democrats make a point of promoting diversity, I really wouldn't use the word "promoting" here. It's more like a 'criminal abuse of what should be a great and noble concept into a patronizing generalization that's completely counter to what should really be an attitude and promotion of equality amongst individuals'. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

I suspect most will only cry foul if it flips against their guy. That said, I do appreciate those here that answered the question before the election. For me - I don't care if it's electoral or popular, only that the rules are known ahead of time and that people that complain about it after the fact are just being children. Tot he topic, I still think the rationale behind it remains sound, but it's just as arbitrary as any other accounting. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants