mrshutter45

I never claimed to be the leader of anything. this is all coming from you. once again, it's rather simple Robert. you claim to have all the answers surrounding the public. when are YOU going to stand up and show the world how it's done vs sitting at the keyboard in the middle of the night complaining? make the biggest event happen. you claim you don't need us. stop whining and just do it. you have 220 seats for FREE. stop telling us what you could do and actually do it. This appears to be your chance to prove what you claim. why do you always fail to come through? this is business, right? show us how to run that business. you can get the space for free and say you don't need us and yet you do nothing. it doesn't make sense. what does make sense is all you do is complain about everyone else. stock holders are very nervous in your business. a collapse in near. everything is ready for you a turn key event and all you do is complain. The owner of the company I worked for 10 years ago says it all for you Robert....Just Do It....

Robert, I don't know what else I can tell you...people research the case and don't care about the public. everyone has different views. you want everyone to follow your steps. I'm not in this to promote it. I RESEARCH THE CASE...If someone is truly interested in the case we have multiple avenue's for them to seek. schools find my forum, colleges, people from all walks of life and countries. you bring the public here to read all of this nonsense? where is Cooper in all of this? this thread is dead. no discussion here surrounding Cooper just gossip and constant pleas for promotion and speaking negative about someone trying to have a conference. If Eric brings in a hundred people that's 90% more than any camping trip? where does the negativity end with you? you live right in the heart of Cooper country and camping is the best you got? Eric is further away doing much more. regardless of his beliefs. he's reaching out to the public while you flush him down the toilet? none of this belongs here Robert. you drive people away with all the negativity. I don't agree with a lot of things Eric claims. the removal of HIS video's were HIS choice. I simply removed the thread. end of story. why would I hold that against him. has the public spoken out in anger over his decision? you make mountains out of mole hills..how can people be interested in all of this drama? this is exactly what happened here the last time this thread shutdown. nothing has changed what so ever...

cold case investigators are laughing at you..one of the best things to do is start from scratch. you have to go through everything looking for things overlooked. we can only go over what is available. things have been found and noted. ignoring parts of a case is a major no no in anyone's book. I don't have time to go back and forth over this matter. gotta run...

Really, I posted the first set of FBI 302's publicly that was a benefit to the case, before Gray posted his. I have flown/retraced the flight path via simulator. members of my forum have been on television shows that reach "your public". the forum has been in service for 5 years now. Tom Colbert contacted me when ever new 302 files were released under the Freedom Of Information act/law suit. numerous files have been released knocking down old theories. a majority of members from my forum are asked to speak at the last couple conferences. I have an ever growing Cooper vault containing vital information about the case. most things can not be found anywhere else or hard to locate. http://website.thedbcooperforum.com/Cooper-Vault/ the vault is currently awaiting over 20 new files to be uploaded. I just haven't got around to it because this is not my life so it has to wait until I have time to update the site. You insult me with this quote while just a couple days ago admitted it was a good site? this is one of the reasons people don't wish to work with you. Eric has already posted an update surrounding the conference in November while you are busy trashing him here. why would he post anything here. it's a negative thread. it's not easy working with some people. I try my best to keep some sort of communication. You don't really research the case. you only give opinions. have you even read more than one 302? we have a lot of them and it's very frustrating going through them seeing a dozen Kenny's and LD's, Weber's etc. it takes a lot of time to weed through them finding the fruit. multiple pages the same, sometime 4 or 5 in a row. surely, you don't believe promoting a camping trip to speak about someone else's video's will benefit the case, do you? the video's are gone and you are still going to comment about them lol.

If they said submitting vs submitted. the answer is right there....sounds like it hasn't occurred.

My suspect page is what it is.. I really don't care what you think about it. slanted approach? they are facts not assumptions. that's a tool you use to discredit. Best for Cooperland? there isn't really an answer for that either. it's an age old unsolved hijacking. nothing more. some people are more interested than others. it's pretty simple. unless you take some sort of a national or global poll you can't tell people what the "public" thinks. producers are like anyone else with an opinion. each one is different and has different goals. most look for facts vs drama. that's a reality show producers job. they would love you. it's hard to have slanted views while dealing with facts. slanted? sounds more like the FBI would be slanted over the years when it comes to Kenny? multiple 302's surrounding background checks not just in the Seattle area. someone with a slanted view might tell people they never checked? how about a 302 with a stewardess saying Cooper was "considerably taller than 5' 7" or Cooper himself saying he didn't have a grudge against NWO and the plane happened to be in the right place at the right time? does Kenny look remotely latin? Kenny was never trained on the stair functions? hijacking the very airline he currently worked for and decades after? have you made any effort to reproduce the bomb of quarters to help validate. it would be very easy? picking it up might present a problem. perhaps I should make a video? it's about $320 worth of quarters. that's a lot of money in 1971. it's around 2 grand. how do I make it. like the Sheriff claims or the actual witnesses? this is a good opportunity to test a theory, no?

Robert, I research the DB Cooper hijacking. I'm not a promoter of any kind nor do I intend to become one. I don't have to do anything but research. this idea of promoting the case in order to solve it has been tried a hundred times over. I'm not saying anything is wrong with it but obsessing over who promotes more is ridiculous. anything new always gives a spike in interest and ends up fading away. I haven't "recently" added a second page to my suspect page. if you are referring to the link to Bruce's page detailing all the known suspects. that's been there for years. my report on Kenny is no different than you reporting or making articles on Peterson or any other suspect. those would be intended to support that suspect you write about or discredit them? you can make articles and nobody else can? should Eric be here constantly saying your articles on Peterson are solely to discredit? I research the case. I look into suspects, evidence, read the 302's trying to make sense of the case. I'm not in this to promote the case. If someone views my forum and truly becomes interested they will join the forum. If they don't like the way it's set up. they don't belong there in the first place. members on my forum like it the way it is. YOU are the only one complaining about it. researching the case here is a problem since you always bring all of the drama connected to the community vs actually discussing the case that will only span about one or two posts. then it goes right back to complaints. if this new thread has 50 pages. then about 40 of them are not related to researching the case. this is why people don't comment here. it's more like the National Enquirer for DB Cooper. that's how I see this. just an opinion.

The only reminder to me was 14 pages of blank video's. the thread has been removed since it's no longer relevant to anything. what ever Eric did was his choice. I never watched any of them so it is what it is..

My quote of nothing being removed is not relevant to this action. I have no control over someone removing a channel or video from any location outside of my forum. Eric shutdown his channel himself.

look at the side and back. it looks like an alligator. the flat one's do not. Coopers has an alligator clip.

That looks like it. it has a alligator clip. the older one's have a flat clip.

29323 posts and 25 topics. are you seriously implying about 20,000 are about you, lol. or even 10,000. not even close. even Bruce's site don't have that many. perhaps a thousand involving you. most of the time you were there on his site. you are not a hot topic by any means. sure some trash talk has taken place. same happens here. I only have 7189 posts to my name. 90% are about you, i think not. try 2% if that. this is similar to the claim of your name being mentioned on my forum 5,000 times with less than 20,000 comments. impossible to narrow down other than counting. good luck with that. even your stunt with the country club received about a page of comments. that's about 14-18. Anyone can look for themselves. NOTHING has been removed.. http://www.thedbcooperforum.com/index.php

Robert, before accusing someone of threats. could you please direct me to where I threatened you? you don't have the ability to follow things, do you? the reason I said the proof would not be in the usual place was because you would simply state that you can't reply on those sites. as usual you fill in anything you wish to make it appear bad. channel doesn't always mean channel on the internet. can also mean a different avenue. I guess you will accuse me next about streets and avenues... You are referring to threats in this comment.

Robert, simple questions are asked of you or a correction is given and you reply with long comments diverting from the subject and bring more drama into the thread. None of this would occur if you stayed on topic with the case. getting to the bottom of an accusation is hardly a threat. I'm not taking shots at anything. I'm showing problems in the things you claim. no different than someone bringing up a suspect and you showing all the negative. I'm attacking the data while you attack the person. this is a public thread. whether you like it or not you are open to discussion or challenge in regards to anything said. Robert, you have attacked me publicly on my political beliefs, said nasty things about a friend that died shortly before your comment. you posted his mugshot from years ago. lots of things that make you far from "the victim" I don't think we should discuss mugshots or felony convictions, do YOU, Robert? none of this belongs here. Again, try sticking to the case.

No worries. the post says it all... We will pickup the Bruce saga once he returns and feels like getting back in the track. I don't believe everything he says. you forget, a lot, of what you say in the past. it's the totality that counts. I don't think it belongs here just as the other comments. a proper channel will be provided in the future. not where you think either..

Other studio came on board according to you in January of 2018. this is close to what you stated on TMN. March 2018, you said the deal was finalized on the second company and were actively seeking a screenwriter. actually, you state this in April, 2018. September 2018, you made the comment that a screenwriter was chosen (solid track record) and confirmed further through Skype. Over a year later you now claim they have two in mind ( not chosen) and stating it's hard finding one with a solid track record. you go further claiming the chosen screenwriter was prior to the merger. I do realize things take time. it appears to have questionable facts surrounding the timeline though. This is no different than disputing a suspect or someone stating something about the case. you post these things and feel you are immune from a challenge? if you found discrepancies like this on anyone else wouldn't you question them? this is why I keep saying things don't make sense. also, for the authority you claim to have with these companies tells me it's possibly an independent film? Large Hollywood ticket production companies wouldn't do this. they call it "the slamming of the door" you get demanding and they drop you in a New York minute. it just sounds like a stall and a questionable timeline. I don't think the world would be on the edge of there seats when the Cooper anniversary comes around. nothing wrong at all with a independent film, by the way... Bruce, he's dealing with a death at the moment.

I can ask anything I wish Robert. I won't tolerate bullies. the topic was about the movie and Bruce. your story conflicts with what the other party states. I recall him stating these things while you were still on his site. prior to being banned. you keep bringing these things up and then get upset when things swing the other way. you first claimed on this board that he never responded. then it was a couple one liners and now more comes to light. which was it? the first response was not true at all. not caring about being involved has nothing to do with this. it's part of a discussion started by another member here that I replied to. I'm not worried about anything. I'm relying to statements made. that's how these boards work? I didn't bring it up. When I read the same comment about Bruce you made recently, I believe it's the same. you claim they are looking at two writers. and say it's hard to find one with a good solid track record..I remembered the statement you made in 2018. "Received message this morning, followed by a Skype. A writer has finally been chosen to tell the Kenny Christiansen story for the upcoming picture. l was asked for my approval, but that was just a courtesy by the producers. I said ‘sure’. This screenwriter has a solid track record." You have options on discussion boards. you can reply or ignore. maybe it's you that shouldn't worry so much? no biggie.

Robert, it appears once again you are speaking for others. you said he only gave you one liners but feel free to fill in the gaps on his decision? he tells others, even while you were present on his forum he wanted to deal with them or speak with them directly. why that wasn't possible is a mystery. if he decided to not get involved because of you or not speaking with the production company or any other reason, then that appears to be his choice. it really doesn't matter what you think. it's his decision, not yours. Didn't you post something last year about them finding a writer? I remember the first stall was looking for another company and then a "green light" once the connection was confirmed. then a writer stall. shouldn't a major production company have all of this in place and know who to go after. I'm not trying to be mean but it sounds very low budget. I fail to see a connection to any stalls. budget isn't a problem. why so long getting a writer? they should know everyone. it's hard to understand when I speak with people I know in Hollywood. they have no ties with Cooper either.

I don't think asking for the production company to deal with him directly is out of line. I'm guessing that's the one liners. "have them contact me" it's what he's been saying from the start. has nothing to do with morals or you or the book. It's business, remember? You should have never included him based on the last comments you made about him. that's also business 101. I'll have to find his comments surrounding all of this. I don't recall him turning anything down but do recall him wanting to speak with them directly. You twist things around telling people we were bypassed when it's actually the opposite. I clearly stated multiple times not wanting to get involved. Andrade said about the same but I believe he mentioned it had nothing to do with you. where is any fault in this. who was bypassed when they were asked? I'm positive if reversed you would post a load of conditions. one would be direct contact. years have passed and you constantly skew the truth in all of this and still no reality to any of it to date. just a cluster of drama. move on for crying out loud.

That's not the point at all. they are in control of there own company. not you. if they don't want to take control with a simple phone call. it's there loss. they should of said they have no problem speaking with him and taken it from that point. he turned it down due to no communication with them. I don't blame him. he doesn't trust you and you don't trust him. it should of never taken place. that's exactly why I stayed away from this. I don't have anymore time to deal with this. I can't stay up till the sun comes up. you still have 8 more hours here. I don't...

I'm done with arguing over something that hasn't become reality....

Robert, you constantly "speak for others" I hear and read a different story. it's proper business to deal direct. this company sounds more like you. how can that be? One liner, two liner..it's still interest, no? he asked to deal with them directly and got the run around. that's the bottom line. it doesn't make sense for them to do this without some sort of interference? you report back telling them he wants to speak with them and they say no?

Exactly, you are trying with other peoples money. Bruce did show interest. you always fail to really read or listen to things said. too busy with the negative. The bottom line is the production company should of handled the matter surrounding Bruce or anyone else. if they were that concerned or even cared they would of went that avenue. they make multi million dollar deals and don't want to get involved with something that would benefit the movie? sounds like there loss. You keep speaking about business. that's exactly what I would of done. ask to speak with them directly. they don't want to play. then I go away.

The topic isn't about people you meet or deal with outside of these forums. you sound like you are trying to buy people Robert. not everyone is for sale. very tacky.

Robert, people don't like your personality. you speak of others having arrogants? nobody wants to work with you is what it boils down to. it has nothing to do with jealousy either. many moons ago you constantly asked people to research your story. we did that and it's been trouble ever since. Kenny is a small portion of the problem. Researching Cooper is very hard with you in a room. two pages of wasted space just today. the guys/guy on Bruce's site were getting a little out of hand. you claim it doesn't bother you but continue to post things almost a decade old now. when you get asked something the credibility card pops up. not all producers are like the one's you are dealing with. they want the story minus the bull. you constantly try to mold a perfect world. Flyjack won't post a lot of things because some people take the credit. Your public is easily fooled. any new suspect comes along and you will read the public now believes that guy was Cooper. "makes sense to me" "it all adds up" etc. I don't need that or want it..you can have it.