mrshutter45

LMAO, blew it after one day....you are the one whining about "the only game in town" and you are the only one whining about my forum that you are not even allowed on. why is this such an obsession with you? it's like listening to some child talking about his father " My daddy is better than your daddy. " I Dave Brown aka Shutter research the DB Cooper case. I have a forum for just that. people are free to join if they so desire. if they don't wish to join. that's okay too. I actually have a life outside of the internet so I don't have the time one Robert Blevins has by staying up all night whining about how the community should be run. I go out to dinner, go see friends , go hunting, boating, movies. lots of things I never hear about from you. why, your to busy trying to top the Cooper world and tell everyone what should or shouldn't be done. you clog up forums since 2010 with all of this nonsense. three quarter pages of the same photo's over and over. Cooper has consumed you more than anyone I have ever seen. it's a 48 year old unsolved hijacking. that's it. nothing more. you act as if we all don't go on to Quora Defcon 2 will soon be Defcon 1. the public has had a chance for 48 years. in between your spamming you have Flyjack trying to post things. that's about it..how do you think the public feels about reading all this over and over? this is by no means a Cooper forum. it's a forum for you, and camping trips and gossiping about other members and other forums. full of hatred and envy...look up in the right corner. it's been 4 members following since it's started....congrats!

Key words "I haven't for years" that means I stopped. it doesn't mean I never did. it's no wonder you mix things up all the time. nothing changes with you. it's been a rerun for years. then you will PM me in a couple months saying you removed a bunch of articles as some sort of olive branch. I can recall three or four times. one was recently and fresh in my box here. I think the main problem was getting pushed out of the way with the conference. you have been on Eric ever since. excuses are no stranger to you either. you have all the rights in the world to do what ever you wish. that's why I suggested making it a highlight of the camping trip since you put some much time and effort into moderating the community. who else would stay up till the sun comes up dealing with all of these things that appear to be a major part of your life. you haven't changed a bit over the years. negativity is a close friend of yours. DB Cooper comes in second around here. it's all good....

Robert, we only have your word on just about everything you say. hate is a big word. one you use often. how many times have you been told most people don't hate you. they hate the things you do. the video's didn't have many views as it was. it's a moot point. you act as if NBC removed a number one sitcom and said nothing. correct, no sense in arguing about nothing. the nothing you keep bringing up, and now writing up. an article about the removal of video's, really? I can only imagine what you have written. you love to toss it out there but hate a challenge. ridiculous things like this is why people don't want to work with you. it's all negative. this stuff is so important to constantly report I would make it a highlight of the camping trip. perhaps a power point using a laser? tell the public up close and personal. I don't watch any of your video's or read any of your articles. they are all slanted and full of negativity. I haven't for years. I'm sure it's not much different than reading it here...

Robert, you are making a Federal case against nothing. I made the thread for him and I removed it. this has nothing to do with taking advantage. he was posting them on the "New Forum & News Update thread so I made him a separate thread to keep them organized. things happened obviously that you have no knowledge of and go off on some sort of rant about people taking advantage. he removed them from view and I removed the thread. it's not very hard to understand. what he does with his property is of no concern or control to me! While you continue with obvious hatred towards him you might want to see what he uncovered with the flight path. If they are right, then we have been wrong. I'm far from sold but it's more interesting than all the drama posted frequently here. I don't know if your public is interested in something like that. I know the video removal is big

Opinion is not proof. that's all you can be saying with that comment. let me know when this thread actually discusses the case vs show and tell. what exactly are the stats here. can you provide them? for someone who always claims they never view my forum always comments soon after one is made that you don't like? Where in gods name did you get the idea that EU has a private channel on my forum? he removed the video's from view on YouTube and I removed his thread COMPLETELY. he made the video's on YouTube private. (makes it a private channel, not thread) this is a complete 100% false accusation that requires an apology!

I don't believe the lines represent wiping..period. you can't make people follow your theories. contact Tom and ask him. find someone in forensics. looking at a tie under a light that has been god knows where is hardly anyway to prove something that appears out of the norm to you can suggest wiping prints.

Obviously, there is no talking to you. regardless to Georger. I also believe you need to tell people when altering things. the attacks go both ways between both of you. I already told Georger my input. you don't like it, not much I can do about it. You have zero background in this field. why would anyone listen to this Fly? You also take things out of context with my comment. no conclusions can be drawn from guessing or seeing lines on something. that's why I would never post something like this without contacting someone who might know. you argue points as if they were conclusions... nobody believes Hanneman was Cooper. that's your gig. don't blame others for your own actions. what you believe is not the what everyone has to believe. I don't believe Cooper has been found.. it's up to you guys to prove that. not me. you have two Cooper threads to discuss your suspect. also, stop telling me I'm attacking you. I simply challenged what YOU presented and you don't like that either. since once again nothing can be discussed with you I think this is the end of the conversation. two people here now making it impossible to discuss or challenge anything...

You should of noted that you altered this photo. I didn't catch it but Georger did.

Latent print is a term they use while obtaining prints. some prints you can actually see and those are called patent prints. latent prints can't be seen without the aid of powder. "No fingerprints of value were found on any of the latents thus obtained" this is in reference to the prints lifted from area's inside the plane. the prints that were found were initialed by agent Stousland. it doesn't mention the two plastic cups. this might be were they got his palm print I've seen reference too. if he held the cup inside his hand from palm to fingertip a good print could of been made. not sure how he allowed this to happen after asking for everything else back. it's possible no prints of value were found in the area's mentioned not including the cup. about 10% of fingerprints taken from crime scenes are of any value. Prints are hard to get with no smears. doorknobs usually smear. the seat area appears to only have the armrest to obtain any prints. the rest is fabric. the pressurized door was opened and locked by Tina. Cooper used the phone last along with the stairs and could of had gloves on after Tina was sent up front. this leads back to the cups again.

You have the worst bias than anyone in any room. you constantly bring this stuff up over and over and over. like the V05 commercial..and so on and so on..awareness, harping is more like it, or even having an agenda fits. This as usual is going nowhere.....good luck with the "awareness" thingy.. Going back to actually discussing DB Cooper.

This stuff has to do with Cooper. your far to busy with Eric and how things should operate on the internet. why should you care about the case in general? same old stuff, right. you can look for yourself and stop the block issue. remember, you told me you changed IP's a while back.

Robert, public forums are just that. public. that means everyone can post on them. Eric owns the video's and can do what ever he wishes with them. he can delete them, he can move them or add to one that's existing. you wish to play ruler of the Cooper forums on what is right and wrong. I don't think anyone cares. it's amazing how it once again becomes my fault or problem for the removal of someone else's property. you are a walking/breathing National Enquirer. you could also pass for the gossip lady on In Living Color. once again, the only one complaining is you. then you have an agenda to joke about them even after there removal, why, what purpose does this have? this is a highlight of a camping trip. just more proof of living in the past. yesterday's news. but headlines with RMB. you removed your forum from public view. should I make a two month long promotion followed by a video joking about it? what if it's true that someone asked him to remove them for now. now what? this is all childish BS. any polls from the public against horrific wrong Eric has done. holy crap. he removed his video's. he should be shot, or possibly burned at the stake. those damn video's with low views, my god. this is a tragedy worthy of more video's and possibly National PUBLIC awareness commercials. word on the street has it that Eric has a couple photo's he might take down. that's a scoop to run with now before it happens. don't let it go. I'm thinking of removing a couple dead threads. think the public will riot? Please Advise.....

Nobody knows where Cooper jumped. even Rat stated that. what he said later contradicts his statements soon after the hijacking. Ammerman was one of the radar controllers monitoring the flight. Flyjack posted a page from a book published in 2010. the discussion has grown since. to date it's believed he was R2 from the radio transcripts. these are things I like to discuss vs shills or making video's about someone else's video's that were removed a month ago.

It's not easy leaving a good print. smears often occur. the hand is always moving and will cause the print to smear. I see it often when I go to recycle centers and have to give my thumbprint. it's easy to smear even trying not to. we are presently discussing several contacts with Cliff Ammerman trying to get to the bottom of the flight path. lots of things I've said have been confirmed at least through Ammerman..

this is not worth any discussion...and with that, I'm out....

They would of mentioned in the 302's that it was apparent someone tried to clean the scene or wipe prints. the phone would be clean giving very solid proof attempts to cover were made. around the rear door would be things like the railing and the door that opens for the release of the stairs. smears should be found were hands were moving and not leaving good viable prints. finding nothing would lead one to believe it's been wiped. very logical. no trace of anything in the back of the plane would give obvious conclusions.

anything related to this topic would be best for someone in that field. looking at particles on a tie and coming to any conclusion based on visual reference won't work IMO. I don't even see an outline where the tie clip would be.

The plane would be considered a breached crime scene. who knows when it was last cleaned and how many people sat in his seat, went to the bathroom, exited the rear stairs etc. prior to Cooper boarding. the prints they have had to be checked by everyone known. I don't believe they were even certain on the cup since several were in the bin.

It's not false. they would obviously concentrate on where Cooper was on the plane. in and around the seat, the bathroom, the railing on the stairs etc. if no prints were found in these area's they would know someone wiped them down before they got on the plane. not a whole lot of places prints would show. no reason to even go towards the front. he had no purpose being towards the front. the tie wasn't even kept in the extended position. it was folded for years. that could also be the marks. might of even had gloves on past the point of Tina going up front and then using the interphone. he could of, but didn't, used one of the towels on the back of the seat. unless he put it back the same way. toilet paper was handy, perhaps paper towels in the bathroom. again. no prints would of been found if he wiped down the area. I think the 302 explains places checked.

wiping down the area would leave zero prints. doesn't matter who's they are. none would be found...they can usually tell when area's have been wiped clean.

If this were the case. no prints would be found. you need to verify things like this before even posting them since none of us have a background in science or forensics. the plane has been cleaned hundreds of times. I seriously doubt that's where the particles came from.

All were wrong....where is the aviation weather data? that's what you need. ground conditions are different than weather aloft. you don't look for dirt bike trails on a road atlas..

The problem here is nobody gave anything close to these speeds. if he calculated. it's in error. 80 knots would be severe at 14,000. small craft warnings would be in effect and warnings of severe winds aloft. this would be hurricane conditions. all aircraft tune in to weather frequencies that give them specific details on weather on the ground and aloft. From the aircraft, we can not directly measure the wind speed, but must compute the wind speed from the ground speed and airspeed. Wind speed is the vector difference between the airspeed and the ground speed. ... If the measured airspeed is greater than the observed ground speed, the wind speed is positive.

I didn't catch where you called me a phony. you comments are often reruns from 1976. been there read that. I fail to see one single thing that would get me angry? you are very disconnected with reality Robert. your assumptions prove that. Yes, your name is on the suspect page. it's still no concern of yours. it bothers you to no end it explains different stories of fabrication over the years. the one's you always fail to prove. I think your little group calls them "white lies" once you prove them. I will remove them. pretty simple. You should be working on something for November. you have the edge, the wisdom, the business sense. Cooper country is right out your front door Decoded awaits? "If something else happens, please let me know" the decoded team is begging you for something. you have to come through Robert. your public will turn on you soon. word has it they are already upset with you. 3 hot tickets that would bring the public in and all you do is complain. Scott, Buddy and Christine are depending on you. I read the email. you spent all this time hating on Eric while you could of blown him away. you better get busy. November is around the corner. you need to start setting up departments and get the crew all on the same page. might I suggest getting someone on promotions ASAP. seats to fill. prizes to categorize. you keep letting people push you out of the picture. take a corporate stance. Eric got the Kiggins Theatre in Vancouver, all by himself. I'll bet your business savvy can get a football stadium and fill it!!! The public is counting on you, Robert....

I see the 220 seat deal was at Auburn. that's the one you claimed for years that you "packed the house" and then admitted only about 50 people showed up to any event you had. It still doesn't make sense that you have Jim to hold the event in Portland. you say you don't need us and yet all you do is complain. it appears you need us more than we need you. I don't need you for anything. I research the case. that's my interest but you want to claim I'm some sort of leader. that's completely false. all you are doing is projecting. I have a forum exclusive to DB Cooper. that's the extent of it. nothing more. it doesn't have to be promoted for your satisfaction nor does it have to conform to your satisfaction. it has nothing to do with you. Robert M Blevins should worry about what Robert M Blevins does. you should also allow actual discussion about DB Cooper on a DB Cooper forum? Yes, I seen the email of you complaining once again. get the decoded crew together and show the world and for god sake's stop whining about it!!!!!! you have the tools so stop complaining and Just Do It... It's only 4am your time. you still have a couple hours left. I seen you checked in a couple minutes ago. I'm going to go and discuss DB Cooper. that doesn't happen here.....