mrshutter45

I did nothing wrong. that's what the post surrounds with China in it..you can't put anything on someone when they were asked a question about someone. it's completely wrong to believe that person is at fault. if I lied then yes. I gave facts and can go further with documents if requested. they are not opinions either. it's no different than a job reference. they want to see your past performance. If I emailed him for no reason then I'm guilty there. that's not what happened either. I doubt I tilted anything. Eric spoke out in the next email. I don't react to things the way you do. if I'm asked something. I'm going to tell you. when I don't want to work with someone I'm also obligated to explain why. that's how things are done and been that way for hundreds of years? you rub people the wrong way. changing a personality is not easy. a person is set in there ways. I can't change you anymore than you can change me. I'm just not going to deal with someone who spends a lot of time putting people down. the last time you were a topic on my forum was last years conference. it's endless crap nobody needs to read. I'm surprised it went this far without someone cutting in. Derek doesn't count. he's right though.

I really don't care...none of my business..

Robert, as I mentioned a post ago. none of this should be on here or made public until all the facts are in. it's the reason they don't go public to begin with. sounds like a game being played. if you look in the mirror a target will probably be on your forehead...if it's truly serious we have a thing called police. they should look into that as an option.

Speaking of myself not being able to answer questions asked....it's a new law typically used in China. if someone asks you about someone apparently you can't answer truthfully. you must dodge around the question misleading so it doesn't offend the offender

Doesn't matter. I know Eric. he's on the forum. it's Monday...I have to be at fault. no, wait, I ruined it...now, no other anonymous people can do this...thanks Shutter. that's a full page Wordpress right there....possibly a video. You can't answers questions about people here so it should be pretty easy to pin on me..

None of it should of been made public to begin with. if someone comes to you in confidence it should remain just that. I suggest we get it over with and blame me...something I once again had nothing to do with but, well, you know

Why would you need help? you have to keep the mystery in it. I thought we agreed not to help each other even though it's been a policy for me for years.

It's still very early for you...no need for excuses.

What is to sweat or a reason to move any event? I've been telling you for several years to hold your own event. WOW, I have permission to give an opinion. who would of thought that was allowed in this country Yes, I was right. answering a question runs side by side with opinions...and freedom of choice. it's a right and not a privilege. you and Eric might end up like Burger King and McDonalds being right across the street from each other

Answering a question is not an excuse. that's plain ridiculous. I just don't see why you can't take your very own advice and work with Eric putting your "pettiness" aside Is it the fact of not wanting to get involved with people like 377, Tom and others who speak shit that was quoted by you? it's puzzling since that was your reasoning seven months ago and today.? Your not going to get very far trying to censor or silence me with anything lol...if an event comes up and this repeats. the facts, not opinions will be laid out again..you can bet on that....we don't do China and Korean rules and censorship here in America.

They are not opinions. that's something you might of done or could of done....we call them facts. most are documented. if a building blows up you could form an opinion to what caused it. if I told you I blew it up showing proof it would no longer be an opinion. claiming 12 people at an event that hasn't happened is also an opinion. It wasn't meant for any specific reason other than answers to a question. you are trashing Eric's event so who is wrong here? did I miss someone asking about it? why the hostility? I don't see why you can't put your differences aside and work together....sound familiar

EXACTLY, my point with Jim. when someone asks you about someone you typically tell them what you know about that person. it was asked, and it was answered. it wasn't even everything I wrote here either but I made my point just as it was made here surrounding your actions over the years. it doesn't matter what you believe. it's what I know and told. if it tilted the scale that's not my problem. I don't know if it aired since I seen the show before it was aired with Bruce Smith in the program. he went to a house where Donna told him to go and spoke with an older woman by the name of Bernice Reed who claims she knew where the chute was found and showed them. it was on her property according to Bernice.

This is extremely tiring...try and focus once again. do you recall all the things I wrote surrounding the dirty tricks you have pulled over the years. still here, that's what I see along with others I would assume when speaking about "the things you do" Robert, you have tried to damage people lives outside of the internet and the Cooper story. This is creating another false narrative. where in any comments can you provide any proof of this statement with you once again speaking for others? that's the animosity slipping out again. it's getting beyond pathetic...where have I ever even made a statement they only listen to us? same for Cooper royalty. I didn't make that up...

lol, the Bahama's are not the same to identify. we can play that game. Eric is a member here. that means you are friends as well as me! people are friends on my board according to you. nice friends you have lol... Robert, this is so ridiculous. how many times have you posted things about media sources or producers claiming you "warned them about us" you've been doing the very same you accuse me of and you were not asked about us especially using the term "warned them" you put words in our mouths claiming we "hate" you. it's very possible Georger does along with the gang at TMN. that's 4 and not what I have ever claimed nor has a lot of others. actually the gang at TMN is probably one person acting as three so it's two people. has Bruce used that term. it's once again a false narrative to forward the agenda. note I said possible. I don't speak for others as you do. You miss the point again. everyone seems to work together except when you get involved. regardless of the size of the conference no bickering occurred because you were not involved. Eric did the whole thing and it's old news now. he's moved on and trying again this year. you are the only one putting him down. do you know for a fact he left Jim in the dust. did they disagree and part. I don't know and it's none of my business. it's between those who are trying to create the event. I told Jim I didn't want to be involved with anything attached to you and he wondered why so I explained. end of story... Added: I've mentioned to you so many times the count is lost. people don't hate you. they hate the things you do. huge difference trying to use the word hate as a base point.

Robert, I didn't trash anything. I spoke the truth. that's something you lack. I don't have the time to show that route. Let me try to understand this. it's okay for you to "warn" people and say bad things about me or others and put words into our mouths as you just did above but if someone were to ask me about you I'm a villain. The post above outlines the fact of you wanting me to lie when someone wants information about you. explaining someone probably didn't lose sleep over something is not speaking for them. I would have to say "trust me, Jim didn't lose any sleep over this" then you try to scold me for not living in Washington lol. another unheard of rule in this little kangaroo court you set up on someone else's forum. my involvement would of been small just like yours lol. lets not forget the fact of you calling 377, Tom and others shit. It doesn't matter the extent of your involvement. you are still part of something I didn't want to be connected to. if you were asked to join my forum you would laugh and say all kinds of bad things in a long strung out post. I was asked about you and gave a truthful response. if that tilted the scale it's because the truth was heard. that's not what happened at all. this was between Jim and Eric. I don't know what transpired beyond Eric. the last email Jim sent explained having an event to be held anywhere..." present a format for an event in November (in one of my spaces or somewhere) and once that’s established maybe I can promote, add some entertainment etc." so, again, you are barking at the wrong person and trying to drag me through the mud for something you do often on this forum. you need to speak with Jim and Eric about anything surrounding any event taking place either in Oregon or Washington. my input about the event was zero. why didn't you set aside your differences and back Eric and work with him. wasn't your event and you had little to do with it, right. little hypocritical, no? you call people shit and speak for others claiming 20 people will show. that's the trash talk you claim others speak, no? I think the kangaroo court should cease and allow the conversation of Cooper continue but we all know you make that secondary. none of this belongs here and the future is looking to be dim once again. then when it gets shutdown again you will tell us how it wasn't your fault. Added: "you run the biggest website on Cooper....from a chair in FLORIDA" That's more of a compliment than the animosity/hate/trash talk you attempted to present. FYI, it's a forum not a website

I'm going to tell you one more time. I had nothing to do with the event. I was asked about you and I answered truthful. what Eric did is not my concern. I don't own him and he doesn't own me. I didn't speak to him about it or what he should do. be a man and call him a deal with that yourself and keep those not involved out of it. Jim either heard what I said or he didn't I never asked him. I only told him the reason I would not get involved with anything attached to you. I don't have to be there...do you follow? I'm not going to lie and act like we are friends. this is not a job. it's a hobby. I don't have to do squat for you or deal with you surrounding any event. Bruce also gave valid reasons. you want to act like nothing ever happened when you need something. when nothing is going on you continue to put people down, the same people you want help from. that's the MO of someone who uses people. none of this would be happening if you didn't do the things I wrote you have done over the years. not to mention you are barking at the wrong person. take this crap up with Eric. be a man for once. Added: I seriously doubt Jim has lost a wink over this. it's old news to him by now..he got over it but you can't...

More false narratives. the same people are going to show up that didn't like the previous one according to you. the same shit you would approve if it was Jim's event? why would you even involve people like that in the first place? are you saying 377 and Tom Kaye are shit. Eric is king shit? you left out boring? should I do what you do and send this to them? will Andrade and Darren speak shit? keep digging that hole. Animosity: antipathy, hostility, friction, antagonism, enmity, animus, opposition, aversion, acrimony, bitterness, rancor, resentment, dislike, ill feeling, bad feeling, ill will, bad blood, hatred, hate, loathing, detestation, abhorrence, odium; malice, spite, spitefulness, venom, malevolence, malignity; grudges, grievances; archaic disrelish

No skin off your nose but a whole lot of false narrative to add to your failure to understand what "damage" means... Basically, you are telling me I should of never told the truth? you are always welcomed with open arms and have never been banned for behavior problems. never sent multiple emails threatening law suits, never threatened to try and shut my forum down using the DMCA on a photo that wasn't even yours. never wrote negative articles about me or others in the community. never spoke to news sources or producers that we are bad people. you have never went on a podcast creating another false narrative that everyone hates you. it's nearly impossible to believe you had last years location shutdown believing it was subject to Christiansen being the main topic. then hearing Meyer report you had more idea's for the next location? you would never take a memorial page or a donation page and fill it up with gossip about my forum like you do on the DZ. how about really hitting outside the box and mocking a childhood friend I've known for over 40 years shortly after he died. using a proxy or VPN to intrude where you are banned from. how about posting personal information and telephone numbers. sending emails one after another sometimes reaching 10 in an hours time till you have to be blocked. lets not forget you accusing me of hiring a lawyer to watch over your forum through another member that was banned at the time from my forum that I once again had nothing to do with. never called people lowlife scumbags. never threatened to report someone to the National Bar Association. you try to damage people outside the internet. only a hardcore troll does that. more false narratives making articles saying The Learning Channel bypassed us..lol, 4 members were on the show. was suppose to be 6 if I wasn't bumped for Josh to skydive... That petty stuff...lets not lose track of the reasons I refuse to work with you. If I'm asked I will respond. seriously, don't you think it's you that should take responsibility for your actions that cause things like this? if the above never happened we wouldn't be here, right? if anyone asks me about you in the future I will respond with the same facts I told Jim. I don't want anything to do with you. that's my right whether you like it or not. you have been doing this for years out of spite. I have to keep reminding you that I was asked and I answered. I don't stay up all night putting people down and gossiping about the same things over and over. I realize it's tough being the outcast but you made the bed. hopefully you now know to avoid trying to get us involved into your affairs? REMEMBER I don't want to work with you at any level. if someone wants to know why. I will repeat the same facts. you won't see this on Wordpress in 10 different articles with different titles. it will be mentioned to those who need to know. you want people to lie and act like we are all friends. not going to happen. no rules or morals broken. deal with it....

Robert, they are members of a public forum. I gave zero excuses. it's not pettiness threatening people and tossing law suits around. apparently you don't follow very well. I had nothing to do with any of the conference. I simply gave input about a person who causes a lot more than "petty" issues. it's not up to you what I decide to do nor is it any of your business. if it turned Jim's opinion one could only believe the truth was heard? or he simply decided to not get involved as he CLEARLY stated. it wasn't a point of bad mouthing each other. it was a point of your behavior surrounding you in the community and your actions. facts were given and apparently understood. twist it into a jumbo pretzel for all I care. if people wish to avoid you it must be for a reason, no? it's not jealousy either. I have to go to work now so shift it more while I'm gone...

Completely false narrative Robert. it's my right to pick a choose who I deal with. you don't like it, tough. I don't know Jim from dick, nor do I care to. lol, who's fault is it now, mine? it's been Eric's for months. opinions are not allowed in the Cooper circle, got it? lets team up and blame it on Bruce, or even Parrot? I'm not contracted to you in anyway, shape or form. as your past members on your forum said. "I will not conform to you" I need you to focus here, ready? I explained to Jim I didn't wish to get involved with the event. I also explained I live in Florida and my input would only be forwarding the information about the event.. you still with me? he responded wanting everyone to work together. still here? I replied that would not be possible due to the things you have done in the past and I explained those reasons. they were accurate and to the point. you still with me? this reason can not be used to try and shift the blame of the whole thing coming apart because I don't wish to be involved with projects that includes you. I never spoke with Jim surrounding anything concerning the event itself or who was to be a part of it or when the date was or anything about it what so ever. I had no part in this from the start. I was asked a question and an answer was given. how you believe that it's okay to trash people all year long and then expect people to just forget and work with someone is beyond belief. you still here? I told you the samething regarding the movie. I wanted nothing to do with it. I can't be bought, got it? I've also wished you good luck with it...all I get from you is I'm jealous lol. you are 65 years old Robert. grow up for crying out loud dude. you don't even know if the event would of materialized regardless to what happened. this started seven months ago. anything could of happened in between. In closing. nothing, and I mean nothing was stopping you from making this a reality yourself. you had all the tools to make it happen and your weakness shined right through bright as the sun. hell, you quit twice during the short emails to Jim. including more threats. 65 years old going on 13 sometimes screaming out when you don't get your way (internet tantrum). then you play victim....you have put this thread exactly where it left off. Cooper is secondary...

Robert, you are way too personal about the Cooper case. you have been this way since 2010. it doesn't matter how involved you were going to be. you keep repeating over the years each time a conference is held how it should of been done. the best defense is to hold your own event doing the things you claim over the years showing how to bring the public into the case. instead you just cry about it all the time over and over. Jim joined my forum and I sent an email telling him I didn't wish to get involved with the event if you were part of it. I gave my reasons which I have every right to do. if he didn't join I probably would of never got involved in the first place. I had nothing to do with any of it. Bruce gave a list of things he wanted from you if he was to get involved. Jim voiced his opinion about everyone getting along and I told him everyone basically does except when it comes to you. it is what it is. you have done a lot of damage in the past. you are making a federal case about nothing. it's an age old unsolved hijacking, nothing more!. I suggest you call and speak to Eric man to man instead of side stepping. this appears to be between the both of you. more you than anything. The public has always been curious about Cooper. that's the extent of there involvement. they tend to believe every suspect that comes forward no matter the evidence. "has to be him, they finally found him" another broken record over the years. then Cooper fades back into the darkness as it has been doing for the last five decades. some join forums and comment a couple times and disappear. they probably do that with a lot of other cases and things on the internet. I have joined dozens of forum and haven't returned to them.

Robert, you fail to follow along. the second, not the minute YOU believed Eric "screwed everyone" you should of stepped in worked a deal to make it the way you keep saying one should be done since WSHS had one. you have whined about every conference since the first one by Gray. talk is cheap and you are full of it. you had the whole Decoded crew right in the palm of your hand and you did jack. there is nobody to blame except yourself. the weak lost. you have no business sense in turning anything around. I would of drove right to Jim and spoke to him face to face pitching a better deal. probably could of got Kaye, 377, and ask Flyjack for something to present. lots of options vs whining for years about the same old crap. Now you speaking about something years ahead that might not happen unless the film is made and yet it's a competition once again with numbers. you have to actually do one to make any numbers come true. you do realize this, right? once again it's just more talk.

Not worth arguing over...you should of done something. it's not what Eric did it's what Robert should of done....you didn't even try... End of story..

I fail to see any logic in your personal vendetta with conferences. you have had all the time in the world to put something together that the Decoded team was asking for. instead you complain about other events that you believe will have low numbers but once again fail to get on top of the issue and show people how it's done. it's all about business, right? you should of taken control once you realized it was going to fail in your belief? you even stated you didn't need us, so why didn't YOU come through? Eric is trying, what are you doing other than complaining? then if 30 people show or 150 you will still be telling the world how it should of been done. it's very confusing how someone with all the answers never does anything? Again, nothing against you but you and Jim fail to understand that the Cooper community does have fun at these events, big or small. people don't like your personality. this has nothing to do with Cooper at all as you try and make it sound by using hate and jealousy cards. you will never change. you sit here night after night putting people down and appear to be dumbfounded why you are alone?

Robert, you are not hard on anyone. your animosity is more than enough proof. what would be the reason for even making statements as you do over the years. is it people talking about you, if so, please direct me to the discussion surrounding one Robert Blevins. you do show more than enough proof it's some sort of competition with you and other boards. do you post the same on your board that millions view? shouldn't you worry about Robert vs what Shutter is or isn't doing? For the 200th time. DB Cooper is a hobby of mine. nothing in any contract tells me I MUST promote at every corner. your site alone should be the top dog since you love to dish out the advice on running boards? this last week had NOTHING to do with Cooper and EVERYTHING surrounding my life and others around me with a devastating storm approaching south Florida. I was far too busy worrying about an decades old hijacking. I was out helping the community and now in between my regular work I have to return and help them get back to normal. I'm also considering going over to the Bahama's and help. do you think the public will approve my absence? sometimes people have better things to do. I can't spend hours on the computer till the sun comes up whining about others. you recently posted not hating anymore on Eric so you decide to whine about me again? You be sure to let me know when you have a life or death situation facing you that takes days to conclude causing panic throughout an entire state. you actually want to put people down now for even having a Cooper site or is it just me? nobody posted on Bruce's site since August 20th? it's no different here. one of the main posters isn't even suppose to be on the board? you of all people being a main contributor should be helping the site guidelines but you break most of them anyway...perhaps you could fly down here a really help? they pay up to $500 a day in the Bahama's cleaning up? it's right up your alley. all tax deductible..I realize it's hard work telling people I don't show pictures or links. it can take a toll trying to discredit on a daily basis. then us talking about the same old boring stuff. unlike the hot topic of Reca or what picture to post on a YouTube channel? then you wonder why nobody wishes to work with you, really? I'm trying to figure out why the public hasn't asked me why I don't allow links to be shown? is my site the only one on the internet that does that? let me jump on Facebook and look, oops, I have to JOIN to view. the number ONE social media site and I have to join it to view anything. shameful, isn't it? I've had many join and say they only wish to view vs post. they don't like it, I don't need them.....let's head over to Citizensleuths, oops, have to join to view....they have several Cooper threads..