mrshutter45

"It's public -invited celebration of the Cooper case" but nobody from Eric's event would be interested. why wouldn't Tom Kaye or 377 or any other Cooper fan be interested in Cooper at your event that no longer interfere's with Eric's conference? It's an event with speakers and surrounds Cooper but isn't a convention or a conference. the word "celebration" is suppose to separate the fact? Why would you make a post about a possible conflict between the two and telling him to go a week after Thanksgiving if it wouldn't interfere with anyone considering the last statement you made? isn't it a lot easier and more honest to say Cooper in your event actually means Kenny and that's why none of the speakers from Eric's event would be interested? the pressure appears to have changed your attitude towards any conflict with other events does Eric have your permission now to date the event as he see's fit? I hate to tell you but anyway you name an event that allows people to show up is public oriented just as any convention or conference would do. Coopercon is not a "Cooper event for the public" ?

Exactly, hopefully you won't get a big head (fingers crossed) and stop posting the outcome before it actually happens saying millions will show. it doesn't matter the numbers. it's actually trying to make things happen. if not a lot shows, YOU know you tried. if you are going to have the Decoded team there it should work. we will be expecting a large crowd though with all the smack you stated over the years. I need to get a few things straight here. you had nothing to do with last years conference but spoke negative about it. that's okay, but If I say nobody will show at your event, I'm a bad guy? you claim everything said on my forum is negative lol everything you post here about me or Eric and others is positive? you fill this forum up with negative comments? I'll post exactly what will be pinned at my forum here. no worries...just keeping you honest, that's all.... The name of thread will be something like this "Will Robert Blevins actually hold a conference in 2020" super negative, right?

Try to follow along...you with me? I will post a thread that will stay in view and not get run over by future comments. this will surround the event taking place on November 21, 2020 and whether or not you will actually hold the event. this is a must for the public since you speak as if it's nearly 100%. we wouldn't want to let the public down backing out now. I'm just going to hold you to it. backing out twice on the largest event ever is not a good idea, right? so, you better get busy....sound familiar? this is great news for all....

Robert, for some reason you feel we all need to explain ourselves on public forums.. guess what, you don't. was the event set in place. did advertising occur? no, it was an idea that never happened. your weak ass ran away and has been complaining for eight months. then you demand Eric changes his event, which would be the third one and he should bow to your needs, got arrogant's? absolutely nothing wrong with you holding an event but to tell someone already holding events to curb around your event is another reason why people won't work with you. I don't follow Eric's moves. I have no idea why he changed anything nor do I care. AV, if true would probably stop conversing with you once they noticed you opened it up like a book offering to tell all to others. confidence, isn't that what you once again whine about with others surrounding trust. the ink wasn't even dry on the first email before you started offering up the gossip to everyone. perhaps they already knew what you would do... Lets face facts here. the odds are very slim you actually do one of these. if you do that's fine. your track record says no so we will put it on record now and date for filing. In fact, I might draw up a pool surrounding this event. it will put some fun in Cooper you always talk about wanting, right? perhaps this would call for it's own thread, maybe a video to boot. of course we won't make fun of you, maybe a jab or two, sound familiar? the winnings can be donated to the speakers. it's a win win? the event will be held on November 21, 2020, correct? I'll post the thread tomorrow....

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Eric owes nobody nothing. you could of easily worked with him like you almost demand others work for you with the constant whining of everyone working together. now, it appears if you do hold an event which I seriously doubt since you are known to back out on a lot of things over the years. with that. you will cost people (speakers) more money if they decide to speak at both events. the days will differ and call for more time spent away from home. especially if held on the 21st. look out, here it comes, your own words..."I don't see why you don't put the pettiness aside and work with Eric"???? sounds more like spite coming around the corner again.. To an extent he should speak with you but you keep saying you had little to do with the original location but act as if it's your event. it wasn't your event. then you drag him through the mud and expect answers? I thought the event would be free. you harp on that all the way back to the ten bucks WSHS charged? five is different? FREE, FREE, FREE over the years...offering money is nice but I believe people do this because they want to. sounds like you are trying to buy people. it's you that can't be trusted because you back out often. it just sounds like something you can milk over the next year and then suddenly something will cause it to be cancelled. if you decide to go through with it. you still need to speak with Eric and come to some sort of agreement. saying you only have one day open is nonsense if you really want to do this. you make time. Busy Friday or Sunday lol. put your "pettiness" aside and talk with Eric about time frames. it's business, right? using a forum to make the plans for Eric to see isn't going to cut it. you will have to do the right thing and contact him. the only one complaining about all of this is you. who else is demanding an explanation or voicing out this horrific stage of events? I don't know of any law stating a conference needs to be held at all? just actually do what you are going to do. you put yourself out here already. you need to do this now. Added: you have things a little backwards which is typical. it's you that really needs to adjust to Eric isn't it? after all this would be his third event in a row and you being the new guy on the block shouldn't be barking the dates he should adjust to, no?

That's the attitude. it's not your space, right?

Sorry, but you are wrong again. I must of logged in soon after the post. I don't have time to monitor this thread or stay up till the sun comes up. You failed to notice the video is almost 5 years old. what I had in mind would take too much of my time to create. plus, there wasn't a lot of issue's with the path itself. there is a time issue from Lake Merwin to the Columbia river. it would be a 40 minute video and would call for a lot of narration and piecing together. I'm probably going to make a video of the flight but it will be a lot simpler than the original idea. I just don't have the time I had years ago. just to record the flight requires 1 gig per minute. so I would have 40 parts to the video. it's similar to a dashcam recorder. the simulator has a black box so I was going to use that data as well. this would take a very long time to produce for what I had in mind. I made a simple video showing the timing from Lake Merwin to the crossing of the Columbia river. actually, I made two of the same video's. one by day and another in night mode. The above is a waste of space. that should have a link to view..

Clickbait is a form of false advertisement which uses hyperlink text or a thumbnail link that is designed to attract attention and entice users to follow that link and read, view, or listen to the linked piece of online content, with a defining characteristic of being deceptive, typically sensationalized or misleading. Lots of video's on YouTube will show the thumbnail of lets say a hot chick and she will not be in the video or the title will say see man crushed on video and nothing happens. lots of click bait for "actual video of the crash" and show only the aftermath. that's click bait..nice try though. It caught the attention of The Learning Channel and the other production company that I can't recall at the moment. 8 seconds of stock footage is not mostly stock footage lol. that nasty animosity coming around the corner again. Atlas Productions was the other. Sure it was a "movie trailer" I was going to put the entire flight into video as a documentary type video/film/movie. no different than you saying "testimony" where they in court on the stand when they spoke with you? "investigation" are you a cop? I really didn't expect you to like it being negative all the time.. Got, nit pick?

Robert, you are diverting from the question (what a shock?) Nobody "talks" about you on my forum. it's been that way for long time. you live in the past. so, now telling you that you were in the wrong location to search for the placard was jacking you around lol. more false narratives. I even told you what to do in a PM. remember the map that you said really made sense? You have been personally attacking Eric for eight months. you actually made a video about video's that were taken down and probably gave a false narrative on why they were removed. your video's are boring. you look half a sleep and don't even know how to take advantage of a background. show the camp ground. light a fire and sit beside it. show some atmosphere. you drive all the way up in the hills and stand in front of tree's. you can do that anywhere. put some zing in them. learn how to post pics in corners. I made the video below in one day and the script took a couple with the help of a member.

What lol. you have been coming after me for the last two days and I'm not involved in it. are you that lost in reality?

Robert, look back just from the start of this thread and you will see you dominate the thread and more than half is gossip, putting people down, truck links, half page reports on things dating back to 2011. about 30% of the totality is you actually discussing the case. the flood of people rushing in here should tell you the truth? shutter this Eric that over and over and over and over and over...yes, it happens on MY forum. we also have multiple threads where only one is here. No, you explained a cheesy version. you try and blame people not even involved and fail to go after those involved. that's total BS.

With you in the room constantly going off topic makes that task impossible. Flyjack will make a post, you will answer then start the off topic session. been there done that....

That's all you got. a bunch of crap about last years event that you sabotaged and planned on more following that stunt? what about the speakers of the future event you call shit? the REAL supporters by your logic. free pass for those? did the kangaroo court file a continuance? shouldn't you be shaming them and telling them to watch out and call them out for supporting him? am I speaking there or did I plan any of the event. have I promoted the event? I think it's time for you to allow people to discuss DB Cooper and stop giving false narratives, false allegations and personally attacking someone who has nothing to do with ANY of this! this is a load of crap you are pushing!

Did you read the email? "I’m asking all of you to figure out an event." I told Jim I didn't want to be involved. what happened after that is not my problem. I don't do these events, period. I had nothing to do with last years event either. he's posting on public forums and has every right to do so. what about 377, Darren, Tom and the others? no screaming at them. they are involved, no? why are you picking on someone who isn't involved? can we get the Governor on the phone, local senator? wouldn't the speakers be the actual supporters? enough of the whining Robert. take your kangaroo court somewhere else!

You mean with "AV" someone who thought Robert would handle the conversation in confidence. we all know how well that went lol..."if you want to know you have to ask" you called that one. Robert, Eric doesn't owe anyone anything. he's doing a conference about DB Cooper. nobody own's Cooper either. if he wants to hold it in a football stadium, that's his choice. if he wants to have one at Burger King, that's his choice too. I don't have to "demand" anything from him. you have inaccuracies in your book. should I start a nationwide march demanding you change it? Eric is holding a conference, not Shutter, not Parrot. we are on public forums. he posted on a public forum that a conference will be held in November. I didn't have anything to do with it and I'm not going to be there. if he wants to have a Cooper car wash that's his choice once again. Listen to yourself. you are asking me to demand answers for something I had nothing to do with. it's you who had something to do with it. I repeat, take it up with Eric. if he doesn't respond that's not my fault either nor is it my problem. fly to his house and hold pickets outside. I don't have an answer for your problem.

Hi Gents, I’d like to do an event where all the “prevailing” theories are present but I’m learning that other factors outweigh this. I hear you on this, Dave. I didn’t threaten to bail. But as I told the group, I am not interested in navigating a minefield here. I’m asking all of you to figure out an event. From my email conversations with you, Bruce, Eric and others, I arrived at Eric as being the most appropriate person to put together as inclusive event as possible. Jim Now, Eric took over past this email and I have no idea what occurred beyond that point. I told Jim I didn't want to be tied to anything surrounding you and this event. then I explained to Jim I don't live in the area and that I lived in Florida and don't go to these events. he even offered to help promote if it was not at his theater. what happened beyond this is something only Eric knows. I keep telling you that you are barking up the wrong tree. I'm not part of any construction of these events. everything I explained was a previous email. that's why Jim says "I hear you on this, Dave" the "bail" part was email after email from you saying Jim was bailing. stop blaming me for all this drama. take it up with Eric...

Robert, these are more of a local event. the average Joe is not going to find out about any Cooper conference unless it's advertised locally. people outside of Washington and Oregon would have to fly to the area. that costs money and I don't believe an average person will do that if they don't even know who Cooper is. would someone fly across the country to go on a Cooper camp out? if he stumbles on here and reads all this crap I doubt he will show. television is the best bet getting the word out locally. you contact the local news channels. posting them on these forums will help but not much. it's a local event. so, once again using the logic you have these events cheat those who can't afford to get across the country to them. you would have to have a tour around the country so you don't "cheat" anyone. Added: also, websites surrounding Washington and Oregon are good to advertise as well. even flyers, if allowed in PDX. local podcasts are good too...

Bring who every you wish that wants to work with you Robert. nobody is stopping you. the fact of you wanting everyone to work with you is the issue. remember that! nobody is cheating anyone. what about the people across the country and outside of the country. you are cheating them by your logic? when will you start a tour so others are not cheated? You glossed right over the false things you claim I said?

Eight months later you say this, really? nothing was "volunteered" I was asked. other emails existed that didn't have your name attached. blame Jim for that!

Prove what I said was false...

I have the email where Jim is specific in stating he was not getting involved with the drama and wanted someone to bring something to the table he could work with and hoped all could be involved. Eric stepped in from that point and I never replied past his taking control. you want to blame someone then go after the source and stop blaming those not involved. I was asked a question and answered it. that's as simple as it gets. if this was a trial which is what you are basically making it out to be then my testimony would be from the " state/prosecution" asking me a question. one would answer that question. what transpired after Eric took control was none of my business and no other emails showed up in my box. man up and confront Eric on what actually happened past the point of taking control. instead, you work in the background and post negative things surrounding the whole thing which is exactly what you accuse others of doing in the first place. it's beyond ridiculous. I was not involved in how it even started. don't know who's idea it was. it's none of my business. I've never been involved in any of the construction of these events. I've had zero say in any of it. the only thing I did last years was send Eric some plaques I made with Tina Bar sand in them. I don't make articles or post all of this nonsense on my forum eight months into it. the subject of you sending a email with threats of a law suit was discussed for a short period in 2018 and we moved on. probably 20 comments. here, it's about 300 comments just from you. and 300 plus trying to explain it had nothing to do with me being asked about you. deal with it and move on or as I suggested, contact the source. Newsflash: when someone asks a question about someone. they expect an honest answer. that's how life works. anything other than that would be considered lying. I simply wrote the things that you have done in the past. I didn't sugar coat anything. Jim joined the forum and I told him he could post what ever he wanted. I concluded not wanting to be involved. after all. I'm just a guy in FLORIDA. he wasn't even aware I was in Florida and understood. All of this needs to stop..this only happens when you are on a forum, Robert. think about that!!

I'm not the one whining Robert. you brought all of this up. not me. I never supported them stating Kenny was a molester. there is not enough proof. his behavior is questionable. you keep bringing up Eric and his event as if no one else can have an event. especially, if you believe nobody is going to show. you could of spoke with Jim or went to any other place and held one yourself. instead, it's you doing the whining. it's a very simple matter you could of took control over. you are weak and lost. If you hold an event. I have no control over it. the same goes for Eric. I'm not involved in these things. I'm Dave Brown from FLORIDA, remember? the country club folded with threats of a law suit. you knew exactly what you were doing or as you have recently stated yourself would of contacted him directly if you wanted any answers. just recently you made a big fuss about someone asking something on my forum and not asking you? that's what you should of done with Eric if no malice was intended. Meyer explained you were going to do something at the next location. that's more proof of Malice. You come on here acting like some sort of trusted go to guy claiming someone with some allegations puts there confidence in you and you turn around in a PM telling me if I ask you will tell? you go further to admit you are bad.."Look...even as bad as I am sometimes...I don't use the Cooper case in such a way. Just think twice before you support anything further he does." sounds like you are trying to pressure me into going against Eric. I have nothing to do with what Eric is doing. it's you that is once again trying to sabotage events not me. two or three PM's saying the samething. "think twice before you support any more of his efforts. Just watch out is all. Just keep an eye on him is all." nobody has contacted me regarding Eric other than you. I have a public forum and he hasn't crossed any of the guidelines on that public forum. what happens outside of said public forum is not my concern. gossiping whispers in the background mean nothing. it's you that has been whining about this for eight months now. AV appears to have malice intent and went directly to the right person for the cause. I suggest you go directly to the source about these future events and deal with them directly as you always advise others to do and stop working in the background trying to disrupt. Added: Eric is a member here. are you sending the same PM's and information to this admin. should they be "watching him" too?

Again, a false narrative. I gave an answer to a question. I had no agenda with Eric or any other event. stop putting words into other people's mouths. you just whined about that. I had no responsibility in NOTHING. a question was asked about you and answered. if it tilted his thoughts than so be it. if it didn't that's fine too. I simply answered a question. You better get use to the comment below. it's a keeper... Let me see if I can understand this logic. it's okay to read often that you go to producers and other media outlets and "warn them about us" and not being asked BUT if I'm asked a question about you it becomes wrong and causes an event to be cancelled BUT again it's okay for you to "warn people" that could cause cancellation to any given event going on during that conversation? perfectly okay?????????? just checking to make sure we are on the same page lol. Good Night..you got 5-6 hours to go...

Robert, again, this is getting old. I'm not trying to stop anyone from working with you nor have I ever tried. if someone asks about you. I answer. I'm pretty sure I know the two you speak of and one of them was a target of that quote of same old shit. I don't want to work with you and a lot of other feel the same way. good enough? perhaps you could curb your comments speaking for the public? I don't "warn" people about you. if I'm asked, I answer. I research the DB Cooper case. that's what I do in my spare time. I don't have time to go around promoting this well known case nor do I use Social media like Facebook as a life source many use it for. I haven't posted anything on Facebook in over a year. not my cup of tea. should friends of mine who post often shame me into going there? this is all a bunch of nonsense and I'm done for the evening. I have a life in the real world. lots to do tomorrow MORNING. I can't sleep all day.