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Don't forget the pitch fork for loading and unloading. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

And a camera too. How's he going to put a camera on that? Pro-Tec still makes the "Classic Full Cut Water", the usual style used for skydiving, with protection over the ears. The style of foam used on the inside has changed a few times over the last 15 years though. Lately they've added some sort of simple rubber strap at the back of the head. Not sure if it really helps to hold the helmet better in position or just gets in the way. The pic in the original post was of the Classic Skate -- i.e. their skateboarding helmet. It also traditionally uses the 'compressible' foam (that rebounds fully) like the Full Cut Water, rather than an EPS style 'hard foam' / 'one time use' foam found in snowboard or bike helmets. That's what I found when I recently bought one for multi sport use including CRW, that appears to have been built late in '06. Yet Pro-Tec's site seems to indicate that this year's production of the Classic Skate uses the EPS foam?! Their other Skate helmets I believe used EPS but are now moving to what they call SXP, which is similar in feel but is supposed to have some multi impact protection. For skydiving I prefer the compressible foam more for comfort and general feeling that it will cushion better than the very stiff EPS. That is not necessarily the best strategy. The compressible stuff is understood to be better only for minor accidents, but worse for major ones where it can bottom out. That's where the EPS and similar foams win out, and are found more in helmets that have higher certification levels. Oh, and the phone number on the new helmet is 562 565-8267, for Pro-Tec in Santa Fe Springs, California. Peter, this is some misleading information you're providing. But it's not something I even know about until one of my CRW teammates brought it up when we were selecting our helmets. You should know that the 'compressible foam" you described (Expanded Polypropylene - EPP) rebounds just as your brain is bumping into the side of your skull and causes an even greater injury than what you started with. Most helmet already have a hard outter shell that protects against the minor stuff. The interior should be expanded polystyrene (EPS) so that it crushes upon impact. The most recent development is Expanded Polyurethate (EPU) it does not have the rebound effect of EPP. The terms to think about are Single Use and Multi-hit. CRW-Dogs should use a Single Use helmet. Everyone else just buy whatever will hold your camera. Sources: http://www.helmets.org/history.htm http://www.bhsi.org/multi.htm "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

I've been tempted to move to the Monterey area. It has access to the three requirements of my lift: Sailing, Skydiving, Snowboarding. I don't get nearly enough of those elements where I am now. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

And a camera too. How's he going to put a camera on that? "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

Maybe it's just the Grass is Greener phenomenom but I always think that girlies on the West Coast are much cuter. Maybe it's just because they get more sun and smile more. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

This is cute. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6500187.stm "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

Are you saying that the WFFC made a 270? "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

I'm in. Hey people, this is also Wingnut's last time out so make sure you're there. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

Why are you sideways? The picture was taken on the equator. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

A friend of mine has Battlefield 2042. If I had that on my computer I'd probably turn into a lump. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

That was actually a play on words describing their requirement to give oral sex to an old lady. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

Gloss? Well, they had to...modify...the fact that the final Rites of Passage was to kill a slave and escape undetected, not to slay an evil looking baby-killing Grendel-Wolf. Well, they could make an entire movie about Themistocles and Artemisium or Salamis. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

To summarize this, 4.8 MP of fuzzy shit is still a picture full of fuzzy shit. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

This movie has grown on me over the last week and a half. But historically speaking there was so much more they could have done...admittedly because the other half of this story involved a huge naval battle and being a huge Age of Sail history dork I would have loved to have seen representations of these old galleys in action. Something a bit more modern than Ben Hur. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

Good God, you are serious. What you're recommending is a knee-jerk reaction to a specific case and ignoring a system that is already in place. It's exactly the same as the state requiring mandatory sentences for specific crimes instead of letting the legal system take care of it. Heard of S&TA's? That's where to start. If the S&TA is doing this hear no evil - see no evil thing then they need to be canned. At the dropzone in question, ELOY, someone came out and lectured me because I landed 20 degrees off the required landing direction. I was the only person landing at that time. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

Scratch my belly or else I'll scratch your face off, motherfucker. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

Actually, I didn't even set that up right for what he'd written, but thanks for getting the joke. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

That's pretty cool. But if you want to get some chopper training then join the army and fly. Just be warned that you're not going to be able to get out and just pick up a gig as a chopper pilot. There are a million retired warrant officers with tons of hours who will take the position before you do. You're then left with having to buy a helicopter for yourself. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

Engines. Walt 'Cuz we don't use small quantities of drugs! Walt Basically the same reason the British measure their dicks in centimeters. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

Becauseeeeeee? So should it read that straight in landings be banned then? 19% believe they s/b banned, which is ironically the same number that voted for Perot in 92. That is significant. And if asked if they s/b segregated, I bet 80% would say yes. Banning is the radical approach, so I just wanted to see what the result was. Thanks for the clarification. I edit that to say 19% of people miss the point by 270 degrees. It's kind of like saying that since most accidents occur within 2 miles of your house that you should park your car 2 miles away. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

Your poll misses the point by about 270 degrees. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

Bull shit. Most full time jump pilots are building time to get a better job. There are some who do it for fun. Heck i still fly at one DZ sometimes when im home. And i fly for free. The other pilots who fly there are bankers and doctors and fly free too. Just for fun. Most pilots who fly for a living will not stay for the "lifestyle" of the DZ, they will move on to something that pays better. You're sending a very mixed message here. On one hand you say that DZ's need to pay pilots more or else we're going to end up with crappy pilots. In the next you say that you're flying for free. In almost every conversatin I've had with a pilot about this issue they've noted this exact problem, that for every pilot who needs the income, there's someone who will do it for less. You tell me who is undercutting pilots. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

If you don't mind me asking, what the fuck for? "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

I don't want to pull this too far off topic but in my opinion, a better device would be something that is springloaded that you have to keep physical pressure on in order for it to not cut away your main. It could be hand held and if you go unconcious or loss control they you open your hand and are good to go. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

It does not seem to have any advantage over the current design and adds metal edges and bulk to an area that has a lot of pinching. In addition, there is a way to screw it up that someone may not catch unless they know what to look for (how many jumpers really read their rig's user's manual to figure out how all of the grommets are supposed to work). "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher