base283

Magot does fly free. He gives advice. If you read in the posting guidelines, this (bad grammar and mis spellings) is allowed for advice givers but not for seekers! Ha! take care, space

Focus on the PC. had you jumped it in this config just before without changing anthing? Or did you change your PC for this jump? Symmetry of your PC to bridle would be my first guess. Body position/relative wind would be the 2nd. Let us know, take care, space

Your grammar is crap. Show some intelligence in your grammar please. Forgive me for being strict on you.

The battery acid weakened the main lift web and one jump later the webbing tore 3/4 of the way through.

I am only doing this from memory and not from "The List". take care, space

The goal here is to list bad idea practices in the art of packing and also BASE jumping. Maybe some one has time to play with this photo attached that came from the early 80's. Please be responsible with your replies. I'll go first. take care, space The list (of how not to get on "The List"). 1. Using Pull up cords or rubberbands as a PC packing aid. 2. Car Battery as a packing weight.

http://www4.army.mil/ocpa/read.php?story_id_key=9771 dumbing it down. It is about US Army advertising for for recrution. take care, space

I have to agree with Ray. If the allegations are true, she has bullshitting not quite down to an art but it's a nice start. take care, space

Hope to see you there, Mucho BASE! take care, space

In Skydiving, one chooses the "jump". In BASE, the "jump" chooses you. take care, space

460 doesn't rest evah.

A related thread. http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?do=post_view_flat;post=1393568;page=1;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;mh=25;

Forgive me for I have sinned. But thanks for reminding me of my infidelity to the sport. I am pro Battle gear. But…… (pause while base283 breaks open excuse book) My last helmet crapped out linerwise. I bought a new one in Panama for a building jump there and it is total crap. It is a tracking brake. Its profile is designed for “riding a bicycle” airflow. Not “tracking” airflow” which equates to a 90 deg offset. I can’t track as far. It actually helps me maintain a less than optimal head down crap track whilst braking my fwd speed cutting my distance from opening point to object. So the very thing that I should use to prevent head injury may create the situation where I need it. So what shall I do? All Helmets on the market except for speed skiing I think, are not very aerodynamic for tracking or wingsuiting. The airflow in these modes are perpendicular to riding a bike, paragliding, or skatesports. I have limited my crap helmet for low jumps because it craps out my tracking. I am looking for a good tracking helmet though and it’s hard to find something better than no helmet. Let me know if you know of any. I was recommended “Factory Diver”. What are yalls opinion on this? Shall I just say fuckit and build my own line of helmets? Let me know because I feel like crap for not wearing a helmet on any jumps. Thanks in advance, space

AN-2, Aha! In the almighty order of the Alphabet, "A" = 1 and "N" = 14, (1+14 = 15) -2) = 13 Then staying with the same formula 13 -(1+3) = 9. I will not fall for your tricks! take care, space

I be thinkin he is a life dealer. I got the inside scoop on this maniac. Word up is that he sold his soul to the Devil at the crossroads. So he is looking for a soul to steal and willing to make a deal. take care, space

Maybe this one, for you lady of course. take care, space

9 is the Evil (911) I just happened to notice that if I take the numbers , like 11, add them up, (2) and subtract them from the original number (11) it equals 9. Which is an upside down 6. a. plane that crashed on 911 carrying 92 passengers. 9 + 2 = 11 92 -11= 81 Which if you add together is 9 b.) Flight 77 (((77-(7+7)) =54 if you add together equals 9) which also hit Twin Towers , was carrying 65 (((65-(6+5)) =54 if you add together equals 9) c.) The tragedy was on September 11, or 9/11 as it is now known. 9 + 1+ 1 = 11 (((911-(9+1+1)) =900 if you add together equals 9) Sheer coincidence. .?! Read on and make up your own mind: The total number of victims inside all the hi-jacked planes was 254. 2 + 5 + 4 = 11. (((254-(2+5+4)) =243, if you add together equals 9) d.) September 11 is day number 254 of the calendar year. Again 2 + 5 + 4 = 11. e.) The Madrid bombing took place on 3/11/2004. 3 + 1 + 1 + 2 + 4 = 11. I was skeptical until I tried converting the dodecahedronicanno (power of 12 for a year) and adding it to the converted tridecaoggi (power of 30 days) to and came up with (((3112004-(3 + 1 + 1 + 2 + 4)) =3111993 (3+1+1+1+9+9+3= 27 (2+7) if you add together equals 9) which is a 6 upside down again. f.) I know that 666 is the devils number (666-(6+6+6)= 648-(6+4+8= 18)) which if you add together = 9. So now I have established a relationship betwixt 9 and 6 and I now want to see if 666 is really 999 upside down applying the same formulae. Here goes: 666-(6+6+6) =(648-(6+4+8))= 630 which is again 9 when added. 999-(9+9+9) =(972-(9+7+2))= 954-(9+5+4)=936-(9+3+6)= 918-(9+1+8)=900 which is equal to 9 when added together Sheer coincidence? The strangest thing is that if I divide 666 by 999, I get 0.666. Strange… Take care, space

Cheers! Thanks

Payback for Gary Peek, I used you! Payback Attention Skydivers: Jumping a SKYDIVING rig from objects is not just stupid, but stupid, and harms our sport. I'm putting this in The BASE Zone for a reason, and that is to educate skydivers who may not know this important fact. Sunday morning I woke up early at a famous BASE site and found friends getting ready for a jump. When the jumpers were almost geared up, some of the jumpers were calling to a guy over on the gear up area who was packing a SKYDIVING rig and who had no BASE jumps. It turns out he missed the load, which is the only good thing that I can say about this incident. A SKYDIVING rig ??? I walked over and asked him why he planned to do that, and he said something to the effect of "getting his blood pumping" or something like that. I asked if he had informed the the Sports Ministry that what he was attempting to do was stupid and he said that the object "seemed to be OK with it". (Somehow I doubt that.) I asked to never again consider doing something like that. He never did acknowledge his stupidity, but I could tell he knew better. As I was walking away in disgust I saw Jane Blow from the IBA who frequents the ITW. I told her, “Jane, I have a little job for you!" She gave me a slightly suspicious smile, wondering what on earth could be going on that early. I told her about the guy and she went over and admonished him for a few minutes. She said he didn't really look up at her. (No surprise there). Maybe he didn't want to see at the "IBA" on her shirt. She said that he told her that what he planned to do was safer than swooping the pond! Now, the point I want to make to skydivers is that if you see someone planning to jump a SKYDIVING rig from an object you need to do something! No one on that load did. Is it because they didn't know better, or because they didn't care? For some reason people seem to think of cliffs as one of the SKYDIVING aircrafts, but I assure you they are not! They are an object and must be treated like one. The other point I would like to make, is that if a person wants to lie and cheat enough, they can probably get away with something like that at the ITW (and perhaps other objects), because there aren't enough people to notice everything that goes on. This is our sport, folks. We need to educate ourselves and keep each other from doing stupid things. ________________________________________ Signature Line: It's not about rules - it's about safety. G.P. (parodied by base283 but rightfully so)

So, Here is my take on the best course of intervention that I have derived from my experiences and this thread. Warn them and video not only the jump but the warning as well. If one doesn't have video, then your word should be good enough since there is no one to contest what you say if they meet with less than optional landing situations. Jumpers have the same rights a skiers or climbers on mountains in Italy AFAIK. The right to be rescued from peril at no costs. Doesn't matter if you are stupid, ignorant or a pioneer. But that does not mean that the place cannot be closed down. And ITW had a closure for 6 months after the first fatality. The locals had quite a few meetings with the sport ministry and as a result the rules of the ITW http://www.basearco.com, came to be. The word from the Ministry was: "You control it or we control it by prohibiting it. Here is your second chance". 5 fatalties since that first, Some Heli rescues and such. I know one of the rescue guys by name. We are hanging on a thread there. Document the warnings to show that we are hanging with our part of the deal is my opinion. What do you think? take care, space

I would also take this opportunity to point out that there is a "Ground Launch" area on the mountain, paraglider pilots along with a great friend and beginner BASEr with a Stiletto, local, launches from. He normally does nice swoops with his stiletto in to the LZ. Please don't give him crap. take care, space

This is my clampless style. I only used clamps like that before to jumpstart the packing weight for the non conformists. take care, space

At which part of the pack job do you clampers find they are most effective?

What are packing clamps? I´ve used parking lamps to see at night in the packing lot.

Is not Irony the best teacher? Kris it seems, has seen both sides from the inside. Whereas I, like most of us, can only see the outside of the other side. Kris has the most potential so far in this thread, to give us an understanding of what goes on in the other side and how to best deal with it IMO. One can get more from using a situation like this as a resource, than one can get from bickering about it. Hope this helps, space