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It's fine and dandy that this parent of victims says the shooting was not the NRAs fault. So Did I if you cared to have read what I said. Nope. KKK was outlawed in 1871. You give me the NRA fact sheets to prove what? The history of Black getting the rights to bear arms is in there point by point... I don't see however, where it says that the NRA was a -nay "the"- major player. Whatever man, NRA aside a moment, the fact reamains that "gun control" does not mean the same for blacks as it does for whites. See Here? My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

I'll repeat: If we can keep the sarcastic and insulting responses to a minimum, I'd really like to know what you guys think of that!... 'cause it seems pretty smart to me. My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

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Does it? To be honnest, all it tells me is how a large cross-section of Americans just cannot accept some critisisme without attacking. let's just look at the chronology of my contributions to this thread and the lovely, intillectual responses it generated. 1) I chime in saying that though Moore used some creative editing to make his movie (specifically designed to anger people), that the most important points he tries to make in "Bowling for Columbine" are real, factual and need to be addressed. 2) Turtlespeed beleives a proper response to this is to poke fun at democrats? 3) I had mentioned that over 11 thousand people die to the Gun in America every year (Compared to other countries, this is CRAZY!).... Storm agrees, adding that people die from the Flu and from Driving... This was news to me. Wait a tic!, that wasn't news to me... that was sarcasm! 4) Here comes one of my favorite parts. I say it was insensitive for the NRA to hold a gun-rights rally right in the vicinity and only days after the columbine shooting even though the rally was pre-planned (and I certainly didn't imply that the NRA was responsible for the shooting)... Well here comes JohnRich with some clever editing of his own. Cuts out the 'pre-planned' part of my post so that he can tell me that the rally was pre-planned... he also feels I should be informed that the shooting was not NRA's fault. 5) Storm is still off comparing Apples to Oranges and comes back in with a real dooozey. "Hey goose, while we're at it, we will ban.... (this that and the other thing)" It would seem as though, nobody wants to discuss what I have to say with any level of maturity or respect. Guess I should have just left this thread as a Michel Moore Bashing one. Carry on all. I was going to ask what everyone thought about Marylin Mansons thoughts on the matter. Remember that part? When people are scared, they buy things. Keep the people scared, and they keep buying things. If we can keep the sarcastic and insulting responses to a minimum, I'd really like to know what you guys think of that!... 'cause it seems pretty smart to me. My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

Oh great! Thanks for hopping on board! Perhaps You'd like to show me where I said anything about banning guns? My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

I looked back at my posts... would you do me a favour and point out where I might have said anything remotely close to "We should ban guns?" 'Cause I couldn't. In fact, I'm not all about banning guns... we have guns here in Canada too.... We just don't shoot eachother nearly as much as you guys do. Think before you speak/type My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

That annual meeting had been planned at that location for a year prior to the shooting. It was too late to change it. And they shouldn't have changed it. The NRA was not responsible for the shooting. I'm aware that the rally was planned beforehand... SO DID MICHEAL MOORE! Did you even read my post!?!? Do you not think that was insensitive? Nobody said the NRA should not have been allowed to hold the rally, they have freedom of speech... they have every right to have a rally wherever they want to. Nobody said they were responsible for the shooting (well, their effect on peoples view of guns could be discussed forever).... But you know every bit as well as I that any decent person would reconsider having it then and there. Nope, more like pulling the airlines adds off the TV and Radio right after a crash... which BTW, they do. haha, 'cause we know there ain't no connection there eh? KKK, NRA? I know now, that you did not read my post. I did read it! And I would propose that you read mine before replying to ONE SENTENCE out of it.... with the Sentence I had preceding it anyway! My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

Here Here! That would be FAN-TAS-TIC!!! The people you are speaking out against.... well, this is probably THERE argument... as in "Stop policing the planet" ??? Well aint that coy? The America Bashing won't last if you "Bring 'em Home"... do you see that's what has us "America Bashing"? You're arguing both sides of the debate here. My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

What about the 14,000 that die from the FLU every year? 42,000 people died driving in the 2000 in the USA. Maybe we should get rid of cars too. Chris WTF? Have you seen the movie were discussing here? lol Car accident deaths = Accidents (sad yes) Flu deaths = Too bad, so sad (trajic, but that's disease for ya) Gun deaths = murder Apples and Oranges friend. If you want to compare Apples to Apples for a moment... that number is in comparison to a bunch of other seemably 'similar' countries... whos annual gun death number fall illogically lower. My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

well you hang with a$$holes, you end up in shit When they raid a whore house, the piano player goes to jail too. Yeah, and then what happens: They question the piano player.. if he's clean, he get released... if he was good about the whole thing... they say: "Sorry about the inconvienience piano player, you hang with a$$holes, you end up in shit... Now get out of here and stop playing at that whore house". And now, what doesn't happen: They hold the piano player for two years, in a 'camp' with a bag over his head. Claiming "We aint' telling you what he did... but he problly did it!" My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

The BBC has a serious credibility problem. And what of CNN? hmmm? My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

Thanks for telling us what America should be about. I'm sure whoever appointed you as our spokesman knew what they were doing. What is Australia about?" Wow Rick, you just hopped in here and flung sh*t at peeps with three posts in a row... do you have something worthwhile to contribute? Sheesh! Is America not about protecting freedom, justice and human rights? -Or at least trying to imply that that's what it's all about? - Are you really rebutting this? Australia is about Fosters beer and Crocodile wrestling [giggle] but it doesn't change the fact that GB is an embarrassment and disappointment to all that which the US claims it stands for. Freedom ain't free... apparently, it only comes at the expense of the freedom of others. My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

hehehe I see. I'll re-phrase my question. Did those things not happen? Do those things not happen? My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

That site is a croc! lol, you can't debunk someones arguments by picking apart his/her editing. "Oh, he put two ads together! That wasn't just one add!".... hehe. Was Willie Horton not realeased to commit more crime? "Oh! It says 'Willie Horton released. Then kills again.' when in actuality, all he did was assault and rape!"... Is that an argument against Bowling for Columbine? Really? Makes me laugh. They take another shot at Moore saying that he's stupid for thinking the NRA went to Columbine intentionally after the shootings when in fact, it was planned ahead of time. Well, for those of you who haven't seen the documentary. That is what is suggested, but only until it is actually brought up (by Heston) that the trip was pre-planned. I'm pretty sure Moore knew that... his point, and he makes it perfectly clear when meeting with Mr. Heston, is that it's pretty DAMN insensitive to hold an NRA rally a stones throw away from and only days after some kids shot up their school! Regardless of whether or not it was already planned by the NRA and especially when the family and friends of the victims pleaded with them not to come. Well, don't be skeptical of the ones that matter. i.e. the eleven thousand plus that die to guns in the US every year. The fact that the black man is not properly represented in the American media. The fact that the US has given arms and money to known terrorists, flip flopped from one side of a battle to another to suit their own agenda. The welfare program -hehe remember that part? What a poor woman- that takes you off welfare and makes you work a job that you will never be able to quit and that will never give you enough to pay your way out of the program (has slavery really been abolished?) The fact that the NRA and KKK came about at the same time... for similar reasons. I could go on... now tell me... Did Micheal Moore make those things up? Granted, he's done a little 'creative editing'... but has he twisted the truth.... or simply begun untwisting it? My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

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Bwahaahaaa! Sending that one to the GF for sure! Here are some for the holliday season, enjoy: My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

-Read before opening attachment- Yesterday I was having some work done at the Ford dealer. A woman came in and asked for a seven-hundred-ten. We all looked at each other, and the mechanic asked, "What is a seven-hundred-ten?" She replied, "You know, the little piece in the middle of the engine. I lost it and need a new one. It had always been there." The mechanic gave the woman a piece of paper and a pen and asked her to draw what the piece looked like. She drew a circle and in the middle of it wrote 710. He then took her over to another car which had the hood up and asked, "Is there a 710 on this car ?" She pointed and said, "Of course, its right there." Now open the photo to learn what a 710 is My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

Beautiful post Bill. You should bump this one from time to time with new undeniables... make it billvons column if you will

John, David and Frank who were lost in the forest were captured by cannibals. The cannibal king told the prisoners that they could live if they passed a trial. The first step of the trial was to go to the forest and get ten pieces of the same kind of fruit. All three men went their separate ways to gather the fruit. John came back and said to the king, "I brought ten apples". The king explained the trial to him, "you have to shove the fruit up your butt without any expression on your face, or you'll be eaten." The first apple went in... But on the second one he winced out in pain, so he was killed. David arrived and Showed the king ten berries. When the king explained the trial to him hethought to himself that this should be easy. 1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8... And on the ninth berry he burst into laughter and was killed. John and David met in heaven. John asked, "why did you laugh, you almost got away with it!" David replied, "I couldn't help it, I looked up and saw Frank coming back with pineapples." My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

Well that could be your problem right there. Try treating her like a lady! j/k On a serious note, sounds like you've your mind, made up. At three months mark, you should both still be wanting to be near eachother all the time. I know where you are now though, been there. If you truly think she wants to MAKE you go to her as a control thing... and not simply because she 'needs you' as she says, then you cannot stand for it. Though, I would make a point to discuss the sh*t out of this when you do see her in person... before cuting away that is. My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

I'm so sorry to hear this. Good vibes from Ontario. {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{Vibes}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} Nick My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

OR, that the laws we knew never applied in the real world either! i.e. we CAN leap higher than tall buildings and we CAN move as fast enough to dodge bullets. Suggested by many before, like a mind over matter thing... or a George Lucas 'Force' thing.... perhaps it took being trapped in a false world to bring this realization to Neo. My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

I hear you man. IMHO, the two sentences I've pointed out here negate eachother. You don't have to worry about being considered a 'prick' when you are looking out for those who cannot look out for themselves. I too get extremely hot under the collar when I see people putting their children at risk without a passing thought. This time of year lends itself to one of my largest pet-peeves of the sort on the road. And that's parents smoking in the car, kids in the backseat, and the windows sealed up because it's cold outside. MAN does that ever irk me. My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

That's the funniest thing I've seen/heard all day! Thanks for the laugh! Beleive me, it's much appreciated. My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

Oh GOD! Look what you did Kerri! My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!