beowulf
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Tom Schroder is really the guy you want to get with. He will organize the jumps. That is his role there. He can also answer any of your questions. He has been jumping for a long time, 30 years I think. You probably were talking to The Ron of dropzone.com I didn't see Ron Ship around Sun.
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Tom Schroder is always at the dropzone doing RW organizing. Ron was out this last weekend. You should ask Ernie to point them out to you. Neither of them bite too hard.
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such as peer reviewed/approved pseudo-scientific conclusions? At least they do something.
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When people just rely on faith and don't actually do any research or strive to understand and just have faith that what they think they know is true, then that I consider being lazy. There are a lot of people that simply believe and cannot back it up with any thing other then faith.
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I think faith is the lazy way out rather then researching and actually learning about something.
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I'll answer the easy one first. Few Christians are "worshipping" the crucifix, icons etc. Some have taken it that far, such as JWs, but I certainly don't see a cross on a church as an object to worship anymore than I see the ichthys was by early Christians. JWs?? ARe you referring to Jehovah's Witnesses? If so they don't worship any images at all. In fact you will never find a cross in any of there Kingdom Hall's. Another fact is that they don't believe that Jesus was crucified. They think that he was killed on a stake.
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Does this just apply to Christians? What about Muslims?
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Life is what you make it to be. Why does there need to be a higher purpose? Does that some how make you healthier?
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There is no why, we just are here. There is nothing to suggest other wise.
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Now you're paraphrasing The Rolling Stones. I thought it was relevent.
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George Washington was a saint. He never did anything wrong. Never told a lie ever. Well except keep slaves. Oh but that's ok things were different back then.
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What does that have to do with anything? What if they were muslim and it said in Allah we trust?
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Look up Fear and look up Faith in a dictionary. I would hardly call one the opposite of the other.
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Interesting. You apparently have a different dictionary then the rest of the world. It is my observation that spirtuality is driven mostly by fear. More specifically the fear of the unknown.
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I have never heard anything from god. I have read the bible, but it is just a book like any other. I don't feel whate ever it is you feel. My mother is going to be who she is. I can't do anything about that. That has nothing to do with any god.
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I'd say if you are looking at prayer as a proof of God you will be dissappointed and confused. If you view prayer as communication between you and God then you can begin to learn more about his plan for you. When I don't get what I ask for in a prayer, I don't ask "Why?" I ask, "What do you want me to learn from this?" I wasn't referring necessarily to actually getting something from god, but how do you know that your prayer is actually being heard? How do you know there is actual communication? For me I always felt silly praying. I never felt any presence or that God was listening to me. When I was 14 I told my mother that I was never going to get baptized and that I would never be a Jehovah's Witness. She promptly told me to pack up and leave and she didn't care where. She would gladly trade me for her delusions of God. She tends to see things like that as a test of her faith. I see life as 10% what happens to you and 90% how you react to them.
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Try that while skydiving see how that works for you.
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Only there is no response but what you look for around you and interpret. The real question is how do you know your actually talking to God and not just wasting time? If you look hard enough you will find what you are looking for.
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okay then what is your definition of prayer? mine understanding of prayer is that it is the method of talking to god.
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There are many who would disagree that prayer is simply "wishing them away" In fact, that is a very childlike belief. Do not always be so condesending about things (spirituality) that you have no connection with. It's really hard to not be condescending about prayer. As far as I can tell it really does amount to wishfull thinking. Every time someone tells me they prayed for something and it happened I want to ask how they know that if they didn't pray it wouldn't have happened anyway. How can any one just trust in prayer? Prayers seem to be answered in random. You don't ever hear about all the prayers that go unanswered. How do you know that the prayers that are answered are actually answered and not coincedence?
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I turn to people that care about me and talk to them. Science has nothing to do with that.
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They don't say anything about skydiving. They know that I am going to do what ever I am going to do regardless of their opinion. Then again I never ask them what they think before I do something. I moved to Florida when I was 22 with out ever asking them what they thought. It never occured to me to ask. The Jehovah's Witness stance is that I am needlessly endangering my life.
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That's nice.
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Oh I am not going to take part in that circular argument. There is plenty of evidence that some of the things written about in Bible did happen, but not all of them and none of those are of the supernatural variety. If you don't have proof that it did happen and I don't have proof that they didn't doesn't mean they automatically default to they did happen.
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HUH