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Interesting, not UPT rated and I never have seen that advisory from UPT. I would agree with you that the letter jives with the Lodi video. I have watched the video a few times now, but never see any Y strap. I'll have to go back a review again. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Yet. But give those who are in power & who have been pushing the AIC & I/E agenda some more time to come up with it, now that you gave them the new idea as another way to earn income and add more travel. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

I stand corrected. However the question remains, is "that guy" now on the top of the list of the hand out ratings to the top of the selected with in the industry. Or is everyone going to need to start from square one? I mean, even tho the kid bounced and is dead now, hey don't that still count as one of his fifty WS FJC's? I mean he trained the kid right? you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

I have no problem with the training part of this debate. I do have a issue with adding an additional rating. Why? Well there is already a case where a USPA rated instructor, granted not a WSI but none the less a rated I, who took a kid who had no business being trained to jump a wingsuit and was sent packing by one upstanding member of the industry till he had the EXP to come learn. Then, the kid goes down the road to visit the USPA rated I, who then allowed the "student" board the aircraft and exit the aircraft without his leg straps on and he bounced. The instructor in question is in fact, now a big name in WS world and I bet he is on the "approved list" of future granted WS IE ratings. This is not the kind of person I want teaching jack shit or being handed a rating, because of who he is and where in the pecking order he sits. USPA is already fucking up the IE's and killing that rating by forcing people to attend AIC & then meetings every two years and at great expense to the mom & pop operators and their staff. Those rules only favor those who seek to run rating schools and can travel the country putting on courses. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Oh you mean like a rating system, where honest people run the program and don't go around handing out ratings for a check, cash, cocaine, or blow jobs....... or any combo of the above and where life long drunks who have had their drivers license taken for life because they are a life long drunk, can go cry and whine to the USPA to get a waver to allow them to do TDM's, yet all the while those of us who maintain our driving rights and comply with the rules are forced to pay more to maintain our medicals, because you know, were REQUIRED to keep those fucking medicals, you know, because of all the drunks with DUI's...... You mean a system set up like that? you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

For yrs I would have believed your statement. However, did you read the proposed changes to AC 150/5300-13 and the study that went in to it by the FAA? Did you read that part about filing an application with the FAA for permission for skydiving and how getting that permission might take months, along with a few other layers of red tape and hoop jumping that all requires additional levels of service by many levels of the FAA, even the FSDO inspectors. These proposed changes are pending and it's only a matter of time till we find out if any changes were made or not, when ever it's published by the FAA. For an agency that is so "broke" they sure got a lot of tax payer cash to waste. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Um, yea.... like I said: you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

well it was one of those Clint fellas... you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Well I hear ya bro..... yep in fact watched some of that weird shit happen over the years. But as you know, we all do something that another might, can or will think is stupid or dangerous. As Mr. Wales once put it, "A man has to know his limitations". You accept the risks you want to accept and others accept theirs. I have also used a hoodie for many years without a problem, like jumping the many different camera set ups I have used over the years, I did put some thought into my choice of using that attire on jumps, I choose to accept the added risks in using that attire. As a person who has seen 100 yr old ring lost in FF and also knowing a person who left a ring and a finger attached to an airplane on exit..... It always perplexes me when I'm doing my spiel to TDM's about removing phones, keys, jewels & rings..... there is always some know it all who interrupts me and starts to tell my PAX it's ok to leave a wedding band on, they been jumping for all of 10 yrs and never seen a problem with a ring. I'm thinking, really numbnuts, why the fuck do you think I ask for them remove that shit. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Be careful that may be one of those MS13 Mexican thug units..... If it's not 1111 or 2222 or 3333 then you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Bullshit! 100 fucking % BULLSHIT!!! Yea? you just wait till you see whats next...... you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Yes & no. In this case, no.... AC 105.2d Sport Parachuting, published in May 2010 or 11, made clear all parties were now held accountable in para op's. So this TI failed to follow FAR 105 and got busted and then fined. They could have gone after the pilot and operator too. Where the FAA is now trying to take control of and regulate skydiving is in the changes they are proposing to make to AC 150/5300-13 and it's parachute landing areas. Sit back and watch how all this PLA bullshit plays out, the comments are under review now and at some point it (new rules) will be published in some form, this could bring major changes to a lot of dz's or no it might not. Cards are dealt & all we can do now is play out the hand we got and let the chips fall where they may. Then we'll see the answer to your question play out. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

No.... this is only a stand of trees that is passing, on the way down the slippery slope. We headed down the slope sometime ago as an industry, when the greed took over and "mainstream" agenda was the call of the day. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Skydiving employee fined after elderly woman nearly falls out of harness http://www.ktvu.com/videos/news/lodi-skydiving-professional-fined-for-mishap-last/vff3Y/ http://www.ktvu.com/news/news/local/skydiving-employee-fined-after-elderly-woman-nearl/nSTgz/ you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Yes, but it also brings up an interesting point with regards to airport access cases. A few years back when getting into the access stuff real deep, Randy O. had been telling me about how some states work a little different then most of the, like 905 of states. In this case, it seems GA is one of those states, where the state DOT is in control of the AIP funding, they are awarded the grants, not the airport sponsors directly. In other parts of the country, the state DOT would not have a say. She is better off in the new place, but the rules of AIP and grant funding still apply and the in state of GA, it seems the state DOT has a a say. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

http://jacksonville.com/news/georgia/2012-10-04/story/st-marys-airport-authority-correct-revoking-skydiving-permit-dot-says you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

http://www.thecreswellchronicle.com/news/story.cfm?story_no=10698 you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Anybody else notice the date on the letter? It's now over a month later and USPA hasn't informed the membership about it. So apparently telling USPA really doesn't do us any good... Well in a lot of cases I would agree with you, in the past context of USPA. However, did you see the name on the letter and who it was addressed too? Mr Randy Ottinger, Director of Government Relations. Do you have any idea how much FAA dealings were/have been/ and are, currently on his plate? Do you have any idea just how much FAA shit has been hitting the fan in the time frame your pointing fingers at, a month ago? While this is an issue of concern to a number of people, who spent time working on this issue, it is small potato's! There were and are much more pressing info that was needed to be put out for the membership, where HQ and the people I'm talking about were begging the membership to take part in the process to help protect the very dropzones and airports we need the use of in order to jump. Along with substantial research and compiling huge volumes in documents to reply, rebut, refute and fend off very harmful attack on our industry. The membership turn out was little to none, big surprise there, with only a handful of people taking part in the process and replying to USPA & the FAA. I think is it safe to say that this info, along with the pending (Oct. 1st.) release of the PLA standards, that USPA will be making a drafted public notice to all member of all the new FAA information and advisory guidance being released. Also even tho there is this letter, as you can see not all agree with the content and what it means. That says to me, there is another side who will be bitching to the FAA about this, meaning, it's not a done deal, same as the PLA issue. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Really.... Try telling that to this guy & his family and those did the CPR on him. http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4368916;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;;page=unread#unread you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

I've been doing tdm vid for many moons, it's always been 5.5 pretty much everywhere I've done vids. Anything below 2K. Well wait..... anything below 2K if I'm flying video and anything below 4 if doing the TDM. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

I said it and she came back with the very type of thing I was talking about and thinking about when I posted that statement. Yes the person or persons I was speaking of, did smell like booze and had been tripping all night on E. And this was SOP for many weekends. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

The short answers is yes you can. Provided you can find a rigger who is willing to sign off as airworthy and repack it and seal it. Now, I say that knowing full well there will be shortly a bunch on here to attack me and say bullshit, for stating that... you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

1. Please stop yelling at us 2. Your a little late to the dance sister, but thanks anyway. 3. Google 1-800-skyride scam.... you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

In case anyone missed this USPA press release. Interesting read. Interesting list of effected dz's. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Skydiving company sues Creswell over ban http://www.bendbulletin.com/article/20120913/NEWS0107/209130352/ you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo