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You basically admitted it twice right there. If he can say it, what's the problem? You continue to not make sense. Moron. "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

Nilsson Schmilsson "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

The reasons for pulling your reserve handle regardless of RSL/Skyhook have been discussed before and have been mentioned in this thread. You, ridestrong, said Your video shows you cutaway at the 25 sec mark. The video shows your reserve Skyhook deployed at the 27 sec mark. The cap shows your hands on the risers as the reserve is inflating. You're pretty damned good - doing all that speedy thinking and acting during your self-created first malfunction. There's just no point in making something up. Quack, quack. I think you need glasses. The "You're a moron" posting is unedited. Unlike yourself, I have nothing to hide or lie about. Cutaway procedures have been discussed ad naseum on this forum. The person you need to talk with is your mentor, coach and/or S&TA. You have some screwed up ideas and the person you end up injuring may not be yourself. I believe you suffer from cranial-rectal inversion. Your S&TA should have experience with remedying that diagnosis. Good luck. Blue skies. "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

Now you know. "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

The FAA considers it a chest type, therefore you can pack it 20 times under supervision and it will count. You'll have to find a chest rated rigger who'll work with you on that. I don't know how that will work out. I don't think it's a good idea and it's not very practical, in terms of what you're going to see IRL. For most actual chest packs you're going to need experience with rounds. But I don't think the chest rating is very practical anyway - unless you're going for a Master rating. And even then, I think the seat is a better rating. "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

It's the best ending, if you're gonna fuck up! "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

Yeah. Probably faster than you could get your hand from cutaway, to reserve handle, to riser. There are plenty of damn good jumpers who can't get their hand to the reserve handle before the Skyhook deploys their reserve - which is inflating as they do pull the handle. One thing I've learned in life is that if it looks like a duck, sounds like a duck and walks like a duck - it's a damn duck. I'm not saying your lying. I'm saying it looks like it. Anything I edited was done so only for spelling and/or grammar, but I did not edit the "You are a moron" post. If you think that comment was rude, wait'll you hear this: I think you're a moron, too. I'm like a baseball umpire: I call 'em like I see 'em. It is my opinion that you, Ridestrong, would be better served by reading the SIM and staying away from Dorkzonedotcom. It'll be great if you learn, have fun skydiving and enjoy the skies for a long, injury-free life. It's up to you. Blue skies. "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

With comments like, it seems he's more of a DGIT than a SGIT. I hope not, but that's the appearance. As far as online advice? He's been told to talk to his S&TA - by me - because he needs advice locally. He needs his instructor's, friend's, S&TA advice and guidance. Not asking questions, not looking for advice or even mentoring in this sport can be hazardous to one's health. The young, dumb 100-jump wonders moreso than any other. Blues. "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

+1 "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

Try thinking outside your little box, Sangi. It's not about you. It's about skydiving and the negative results that fatalities have on our sport and the potential alteration of our self-regulatory status. It's about lawsuits and liability. It's about DZs and Mfgrs being able to remain open and make a living. It's not about you. "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

I don't know you, Sam. No doubt you're a great guy and if I met you at the DZ I'd probably like you and drink a beer with you at the BF. But based on the above, I have to say: You, sir, are a moron. "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

From USPA: The Basic Safety Requirements for the 2009 SIM, due out in September 2008, will include a change to Section 2-1 Basic Safety Requirements to reflect the new requirements. This effectively gives USPA members who are only manufacturer rated approximately one year to make the necessary arrangements with a USPA Tandem Course Director and earn the USPA Tandem Instructor rating. This document includes instructions on how to proceed based on your current rating situation. Download the tandem proficiency card on the right. A list of I/Es with contact info from the USPA website:Tandem I/Es "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

While not illegal, in Georgia there is a "fighting words" statute. If one's words incite another to a reasonable level of violence - such as a good old fashioned ass-whooping - it is justifiable. I don't know if this is still on the books or if other states have similar statutes. Who defines "immediate breach of the peace"? The judge, presumably, who will likely and should dismiss the charge, for simply saying "fuck you" to another. That doesn't mean the asshole who's yelling it doesn't still get ticketed or even spend a night in the pokey. Sometimes, from the police perspective, it's not the outcome but the procedural hassles an offender has to go through that makes it worthwhile. Such as locking a D&D up for the night instead of taking him home because he was a real asshole to the officer. For the sake of this example, let's not get tied up with liabilities or rulebook procedures. If an officer has never taken a D&D home based on discretionary judgment he's not been around long enough. "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

Poor Daffy had to go deep into the basement to make the target on a few of those jumps. He must be an old-school Gulch jumper! "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

Gerry Rafferty, at the time with Stealer's Wheel. I like your take on it, Bill. "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

All that needed to be said. "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

Ridestrong was distracted by the camera and made the wrong decision, taking the time to ditch the helmet before EPs. You're saying this is the correct decision? He said his hand was on the reserve handle but decided against pulling because the Skyhook beat him - but the photo he posted shows this was not so. Is this breakdown in EPs "deal(ing) with it well"? This guy packed himself a mal, ignored it while fucking around with his camera helmet and then managed to cutaway but not follow through with a reserve pull, relying on his gear to do it for him. Our definitions of "correct decisions" and "dealing with it" are very different. "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

I don't know if that's true or not, and I don't speak for Jim, but what I take away from his (Beatnik's) postings is that he would like to see data derived from an empirical study of the full range of pilot chute dynamics and aerodynamics. It might be a matter of scrutinizing minutiae, but as there are fatalities (even if statistically few) associated with poor reserve PC deployment and freebag extraction I think it's a valid point for research. Who wouldn't? The problem is there is no-one or organization that is going to conduct such a study. It's expensive and the results might be negative toward manufacturers. Jim is a connoisseur of vintage gear. Did you notice the other rigs mentioned in his profile? Did you notice they're listed before the Racer? Do you know he jumps the old stuff more than anyone or any of his other gear? Have you noticed Racers are not part of this PC issue? Have you ever jumped a Racer? Inspected a Racer? The V3 is a good rig, but did you buy for style or function? "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

Another Red Bull stunt. "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

Is it free? I want to go to your tunnel!! "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

Yes, seriously. You can call yellow cables "cords" all day long, and the three rings "riser loops" (which I've heard). I don't care. But if you want to communicate clearly with other skydivers it helps if you use correct terminology. It doesn't give you an appearance of knowlege or by extension, capability, to do otherwise. But that's neither here nor there. What about that which you've avoided talking about? The cap you posted contradicts your comment that your hand was on the reserve handle. Were you just being macho or were you unaware of what you were doing? Again - I'm just wondering. The point isn't to try to hit the reserve handle the split second after the cutaway. Breakaway procedures are not fixed. Your actions should be based on the situation, not connect-the-dots automation. This is one reason for choosing to not use an RSL. Your S&TA can answer your questions. I think it's important to give him/her the chance to do so. "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

The whole point of this thread has been to not waste time unclipping the chin strap, and you suggest a course of action that would take at least ten times as long? It was a question, jackass. Looks like one line to me. Looks like your question was answered. The answer shouldn't bother you - unless your immune to learning. This thread reminds me of 888@8. "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

Please don't go down the "I thought about cutting the line" trail. Perhaps it's time to walk away from this thread, Ridestrong. and: I guess you know a little. The problem is thinking a little is a lot and misperceiving a little skill as sufficient. A larger problem is general lack of awareness. Situational awareness is critical to this sport. On your OP you attached a photo called "cord in hand". I guess you meant the yellow cutaway cables - which isn't a cord. But this cap also shows the reserve at near or full extension and your hand is on the riser (holding the cutaway pillow!)...not on the silver handle, which is where you told us it was!! So which is it? I'm just wondering. Were you aware of where your hands were and just made up the bit about going for the handle to protect your pride? Also, I'm not saying it's important to know the exact names of everything in skydiving (if you have an unlandable malfunction cut it away and worry about what it's called later), but not using basic terminology, such as "yellow cables" vs "cord", or "D ring" vs "reserve handle" makes one think you're not up to speed! Please take this as friendly and sincere advice: Talk to your S&TA about your approach to safety and skydiving before your next jump. You may be acting like a chump but that doesn't mean anyone wants you to appear in the Incidents forum. "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

This is a real question? Dude, you learn from and need to talk to your S&TA, your instructors and the old-timers and upjumpers at your DZ. Then: So you went from a poor-packing induced mal to shedding your helmet (screwed up procedures, indicative of lack of training, awareness and experience), to a two-handed cutaway and got your hand onto the silver handle as fast as the Skyhook deployed, and with the awareness that the reserve was deploying and therefore decided to not pull it? Even if I believed you could beat the Skyhook, I know beyond doubt (from your postings) that you do not have the awareness you're describing. Listen to the voices of experience; there are people here trying to help you. That means they're trying to help keep you from harming yourself and/or others. You should get your head out of your ass, lay the ego aside (we know you're cool, man, you're a jumper) and slow down. It will all be good if you learn to take it easy and take it as it comes. Many don't live to learn, you know. "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

Jerry - I have your plans and already sent them to Dave (skyfreek). Thanks nonetheless!