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Are you saying you saw or watched them open the box with a cutter? "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

See Post #6. Also, you could contact the person from whom you purchased the Cypres. As was mentioned earlier in the thread, have you contacted Titusville to ask of his whereabouts? "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

I see what you're saying but it doesn't look like that's what's going on here. It looks like the pair started to drop right when the TI reached and then, for some reason, he wrapped his right leg around the Seahawk and amped the twist/barrelroll. The TI held onto the drogue for a brief moment until his right side was outside the rotation. The first 1.5 secs (prior to reach) looks solid. .02 "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

Holy Week-Of-Old-Threads-Revival, Batman! Sounds like Poynter got you good, Dan. I'm guessing the Japanese instructions had good photos? Looking back through this thread, I see that common complaint about Dan's books. They're good, sure, the best we have, but they're redundant and filled with errors. In a perfect world PPMI and PPMII would be corrected and edited down to a single tome. In the real world, however, the books are published for a very small niche market and there is simply not enough money to be made to warrant editing out the problems. So we learn to navigate through the books and make the most of it. I agree with HW that Poynter has done more for our sport than nearly anyone else, possibly everyone else. But that doesn't mean he got everything right!!! "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

I hear where you're coming from, and I've had my fair share of the shit. But this is, as far as we're able to see, a case of "he said v he said". I'm not prepared to judge either way - but as I said earlier, I think full disclosure and displaying of evidence will shine the light of truth onto the matter. I hate to see a skydiver get screwed over - and I hate to see a lazy or avaricious person get it over on another. Who is whom in this matter? Time will tell, perhaps. Until then, I reserve judgment. "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

There seems to be a lot of drama of dizzy lately. This issue, which should have been/should be carried out privately, is playing out for all to see. Is there enough popcorn to go around between this and the skygirl/skygypsie threads? One waits with bated breath...and for a reply from Ferdy. "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

The Student CYPRES will activate when the rate of descent exceeds 29mph. Parameter I: In the case of rate of descent being equal to that of freefall the CYPRES activation altitude is at approx. 750 feet, the same as the Expert CYPRES. Parameter II: Should the rate of descent be lower than that of freefall but still above 29mph (e.g. with partially opened canopy), the Student CYPRES activates at approx. 1000 feet above ground level. The student will then have some more time to prepare for landing (and presumably deal with a two-out situation). Hope this helps. (edited for colour) ETA: The student has used up his time to work the problem out - in fact, he's gone deep into the red. At 1000', the student is in a world of shit and he'd better hope the activation of the CYPRES results in a clean reserve deployment. Despite the reality that one should act regardless of altitude (although the outcome might be nonetheless grim), the student's time to act is at or before 3000' - the minimum deployment altitude. I hope you recognize that the student, in this scenario, has failed to or is unable to act and the CYPRES is his last chance. "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

Since this is being discussed in public, I would like to comment. I understand what you are saying, Ferdy - the reserve was OK when sent and seems to have been damaged in transit. You requested the buyer to seek insurance reparation from the IT postal service but he did not do so. Yes? But this doesn't answer the other issue. The buyer insists you sold him a Techno 128 ft² parachute but he received a Techno 115 ft² parachute. Do you have a response to this claim? Also - you might post the photos of the gear, as you have some. Bringing the fullness of this issue to light is probably the best way to resolve it. Hopefully the buyer hasn't hurt himself by delaying seeking remedy with the IT post office. Nova "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

You say that as if there's another kind????? "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

Milk plus velocet . . . milk plus synthamesc. Might be on to something. Moloko-bound! "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

Ditto

570 votes. Good luck. "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

1985 - S/L. One had to go to FL for AFF, some new-fangled instructional method. Bill Scott (today DZO Skydive Monroe) was SLI & JM. I wonder if he still teaches 1hr+ PLFs? "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

Gotcha.

No - I'm referring to Jan's list. I'm just wonderin' why some DZs have info listed and others not. From my quick look, it doesn't appear to be SR related. Just asking. "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

Touché "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

Not to draw too fine a point, but I know a guy who was killed golfing. And a guy who was paralyzed playing soccer. And a girl who had her arm crushed playing softball. Life's rough, man. Remember Sgt. Esterhaus. "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

Like the new avatar. "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

I'm sure it will. Blues and safes! "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

>>By accepting the risks and doing what I can to minimize them. The day I think skydiving is a safe sport will be the day I should probably switch to, say, rugby. >a HUA skydiver can easily be killed or injured. Yep. So can one who is careful, thoughtful, maintains their gear and uses good judgment. >Any skydiver worth ½ his salt cannot be easily killed. Tell that to Tommy Piras, Sandy Wambach, Bob Holler, John Appleton, Shannon Embry and Roger Nelson. They were worth more than half their salt, and did not die due to carelessness, neglect or bad judgment.

Nice website, Jan. One wonders, though, why are only some of the listed DZs shown with information? Just curious and just asking. "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

Easily killed or injured? I don't know how you skydive, then. One who is careless, thoughtless, doesn't maintain gear and is basically a HUA skydiver can easily be killed or injured. Any skydiver worth ½ his salt cannot be easily killed. Man, you make it sound like the romanticized version of the Wild West, Bill. In my time, in addition to skydiving, I've spent a lot of time white-water canoeing and rafting, spelunking, scuba and free diving, motorcycling, hunting, shooting - hell, plenty of "dangerous" things. But the presence of danger never made these things inherently unsafe. Safety comes from managing risks and dangers. One can never eliminate them - driving can be a deadly activity - but one can manage them to a better than acceptable level. One should manage them to an excellent level. When you say that one can easily be killed skydiving, I think of my wife and her fear of firearms. To her, a firearm is as deadly and dangerous as a living viper. But that's not realistic. We're not handing out rigs on the streetcorner to any passerby who will take one and giving them a lift ticket. There is inherent danger in skydiving because we are plummeting toward the earth from a higher altitude than we can surivive unassisted. That's the principal reason. We manage that risk of death with training, gear selection and maintenance, and good judgment. The most powerful selector in our sport, as I'm sure you know, is the "good judgment" metric. Complacency, stupidity, carelessness, laziness - these are the killers in our sport. Skydiving would be perfectly safe without skydivers! Another .02 "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

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THAT takes the fun out of it. "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

[soapbox] Man, this is just wrong and I hate hearing this, especially from skydivers. A huge error in logic. Skydiving has inherent risks and dangers but this is very different from unsafe. Example: There is risk is shark diving. There is safety is shark-diving in a sturdy, well-maintained shark cage. Shark diving with chum-bait tied all over your body is unsafe. Safety in risky situations is the result of training, skill, maintenance, decision-making and management. In our sport, we manage the risks with student and advanced training, gear selection and maintainance, and good decision making. This is safety. The danger is still present. One can always screw-up, make poor choices, live stupid, etc. Death or severe bodily harm can result from any skydive through factors beyond our control or factors within our control but ignored. If one is jumping ragged-out, shitty gear, one is being unsafe. If one is attempting skills beyond one's level (20-jump wonder wants to take up wingsuiting), one is being unsafe. Dangerous and unsafe are not synonymous. [/soapbox] "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73