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Just so I know...what features are on student rigs that aren't usually found on sports gear? Static line with rigging (S/L rigs), reserve-side deployment handle (AFF rigs), SOS handle, &c. "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

The door of a 172 is easily removed. There is an STC authorizing flight with door removed. No problem. Getting the pilot to agree to remove the seat is another matter. BTDT. "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

Almost certainly not. Student gear is specialized, having features not usually found on sport gear. Also, students jump larger, more forgiving parachutes - much larger than your 170. Call the DZ you at which you intend to train and get their advice and information. You have plenty of time to jump your own gear so there's no need to be in a hurry about it. Good luck and safe landings. N "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

New York Mohawk Valley Skydiving - NO Duanesburg Skydiving Club - YES "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

I don't know you, 88, and I said all I have to say in the "dick" thread, but did you read the TCNelson threads? Real attention-getters. I'm not saying you are not trying, not heads-up, not capable. I'm not saying you can't hammer in if you want to. If I were a DZO, I'd have a lot to say about it, but I'm not so it doesn't matter. I will say that there is a period a novice jumper goes through where that jumper feels fully competent, invulnerable and superbly knowledgable. That is a dangerous time we all must or have gone through. Maybe it lasted a year and 200 jumps. Maybe we learned at 30 jumps when we watched our friend crater in. Of course, there are plenty of guys who bounced while in that period. I've never met a skydiver, and doubt there are any, who was not scared, unhappy and deeply concerned when they noticed a DGIT. It's not taking it too far to say, "Hey - I've seen this before. I think I'll talk to this DGIT before the Reaper shows up." If you're totally understanding all this, cool. If not, then stop what you're doing and learn from us "oldies". Skydiving isn't like football or track. One doesn't have to be 18-23 to be at the peak. Apropos nothing, and in conclusion, don't be in a hurry. Remember the bulls on the hill? Just walk down the hill and fuck as many as you want. It's worth it. "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

Pea soup. Grits (add water when re-heating). Sauerbraten liquid. "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

Where do you keep this helmet stored? In direct sunlight? Near a heat source? Contact the manufacturer with your inquiry. And photos. "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

For consideration - but no green ones, Gary. "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

I recall an organized RW load I was on in the late 90's - 12-way, IIRC - and there were five or six dildos on that load. They may have been vibrating at pull altitude; a few of us were shaking, that's for sure. I know I'm not the only one who's jumped with dildos! Edited: How the hell does one spell dildos? Is it dildoes? "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

You can get one from any dealer - the cost shouldn't be that different from place to place. You can try ParaGear, Square One, Karnage Krew, Aerostore, etc. Blues. "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

Because we're adults and make our own decisions. We're not students, under supervision. Anyway, advising students is the instructor's job. If someone wants to hammer in and can't be persuaded against it, they're going to hammer in - or learn from a very steep curve. I've never noticed a lack of inquisitiveness or hunger for advice from young jumpers. I've noticed a desire to move too quickly, to push boundaries too soon. But on the other hand, one doesn't progress without straining borders. Now, if a DZO thinks a jumper is making choices that exceed his abilities, and gives unheeded advice, then the DZO has the option of disallowing said jumper from jumping at his DZ. He doesn't have the option of making that jumper's choices. If you don't like someone's choices and think they are a danger, tell them if you want. Try to persuade them if that's your desire. If you don't feel safe jumping with them, don't jump with them. If they choose to ignore your advice, that's their prerogative; deal with it. But if you can't handle someone making their own choices, don't be a dick. That just makes you a dick. That's my advice. "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

The Altimaster III (Galaxy) is an excellent altimeter. It's durable, accurate and comes with a glow-in-the-dark face. You can choose a colour (if you like). The best thing about the Altimaster is the first-rate quality of the instrument and the great CS you'll get if you ever need it. I'm not a rep, paid promoter, etc. Just a 24-year satisfied customer. "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

The green/white is just a favourite of mine so I thought I'd throw it out there to mix things up. "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

For consideration. "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

For consideration. "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

For consideration. "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

For consideration "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

Happy Birthday, Bill - and many more. Blues! "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

I jump because it's fun. As Hell. The people, the DZ dynamics, the gear, the jumps, the beer. &c. Two things that really get me going are: (1) The act of exiting; the actual moment of release. It's the feeling of completely leaving Terra Firma. The plane isn't that different from sitting in a car or a room - but getting out? As Cleese said, "And now for something completely different." (2) The act of pulling; I really enjoy the feeling of reaching back, pulling and saving myself. I find it to be a singular feeling and I like it. "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

That's not what you posted originally, dude. Just a question? I myself don't give a shit one way or another about this, but your initial post wasn't "just asking a question." I'm surprised that you're surprised that you are getting flamed. "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

Fixed that for you. Nice kit, Strat. "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

I'd like to see that. "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

(comment removed) Nevermind - it was already handled in the Skyride/West Tennesee Thread. "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

I read it the same way. The OP, however, at 60 jumps noted, is asking some pretty basic questions. One doesn't presume he means that he won't front-riser in! "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

From the OP: "If I have altitude I would cut-away!! If not, I would use front and rear risers to steer and land the canopy, preparing for a parachute landing role!" He says not necessarily to land only, but to steer and land - it's not clear if he thinks it's OK to give front riser input at landing. If the parachute is unstable, it's a bad idea to keep it. Since this jumper should be at a relatively high deployment altitude, there is plenty time for EPs. If not, then it's a bad idea to give the parachute input at a low altitude - fly it in without controls and PLF. "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73