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Red at FCI will be able to help you with that. 770-279-7733 "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

Knowing where you're jumping, I'd say no, because there is frequently a flyover or close pass to the airspace at that airport by light and military aircraft. Don't trust what you can't see, Tom. Nova "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

I'm not aware memory in the lines of a main is significant. I believe (and answered to the point) the twisting that Michael referred to isn't the twisting like we see in brake lines but the twisting of line groups. Example: Some always use their fingers to separate the line groups as they run up the lines to the parachute for packing. Others just pull the lines tight and start packing. I'm a firm believer in separating the line groups. Nova "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

Good points, Michael. In the absence of burns or other evidence, it's often best-guesswork as to what was happening after deployment. If it's just not known what happened, a clear description of the symptoms/actions and appearance of the malfunction narrow the list of suspects. Since you brought it up, I guess I'm not convinced twisted lines give a higher risk of malfunction, either - but IMO it's an unneccesary risk. Blues. Nova "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

Yes. Clear your lines before packing, keep them taut while packing, and stow them evenly, tightly and securely. It's the most important aspect of proper packing. Nova "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

OK - it seemed a bit harsh to comment on a helpful reply, that's all. Tension knots can form even if the lines are untwisted. It can happen if there is slack in the line which allows it to wrap or twist around another line and when the load is applied a knot can form. Your problem sounds like a tension knot and you might have decided to re-stow the right brake and fly with rear risers but there's no heroism in that. You handled the problem and you made the right choice - if it's not safely landable, get rid of it. Blues. Nova "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

I think Chute Me read the post, and I did too. OP is asking about tension knots and how to prevent them and then bitching because he got a response about it?? Damn. A tension knot in the brake line will feel springy as the captured line is pulled down but will feel heavy because of the relative weight of the parachute. Line length will allow the captured steering line to be pulled only so far. Tension knots from wound-up brake lines are not uncommon. Untwisting the brake lines regularly and keeping the lines taut while packing and stowing are ways to manage the issue. Nova "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

I think the best way to approach the design is to make it easily navigated, simple and intuitive in design, and fast loading Too much activity on any one page will slow down the rendering and will irritate the potential client. N "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

Sorry, but that's not true. Back in the mid-90s my DZ was in a semi-rural area and there was a kid whose family lived across the street. He was ~11 yoa and came over frequently. This kid was not the nicest or most courteous child, but neither was he bold or rude - he was just a kid. He was only told once to stay away from and to not fuck with the gear. I never saw him in a situation after that and he was over there all the time. He just loved being at the DZ. I guess he fed on the vibes and excitement. Kids on the DZ? Let the DZO decide. .02 "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

Oh, damn. Here we go again! "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

Our nation lives, and remains great. We are perched to slip into socialism, however. America will survive. Will we remain great? "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

1 - Use the SEARCH feature. 2 - Speak with your instructor(s). 3 - When the time comes, buy used. "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

It's pining for the fjords. "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

Are you the bathtub girl? "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

G. A gliding/aerodynamic/maneuverable parachute "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

It's a lot of advertising and it's not especially thick - but it's the first edition and it's good. Good luck to Kolla and the team - and congratulations on a great first edition. I hope to see many issues to follow. Blues! Nova "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

Two quotes, two companies. Average increase: 90%. The agents are very understanding and apologetic - but the numbers (skydiving fatalities) don't match the premium increase. The actuarians see skydiving as a russian roulette activity and they (the underwriters) are the ones generating the figures. Let us know who you go with and what is the increase. Good luck! Nova "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

Your canopy gets smaller and your WL goes down. That must be what they call fuzzy math. "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

+1 Glideangle Since you psycho pack, make sure you do not make too small a roll, laterally. When you fold the wings in, make sure you're not brining them in too deep. You want the roll to be very tight and make it slightly wider than the bag. When you bag it, take a moment to squeeze the roll into the bag, focusing on the bottom corners. Bag shape and placement in the container can also affect tightness. Do you have the correct D-bag for your rig? Finally - make sure your closing loop is short enough to give you a tight closing, but not so tight that you're killing yourself to close on each pack job. Talk to your mentor/instructor/rigger/friend. Have fun. Nova "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

Citation? Was there an issue that prevented reserve activation? "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

Yep - pull the extension out to the side and roll away. Have fun! Nova "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

After flaking the parachute, center the lines and stabilizers. That means you fold the stabilizers over the centered lines; left, right, left, right. Folding in the stabilizers helps keep the packjob evenly distributed and the steering lines in. When you're done, you will have a neatly prepared parachute. (If you're like some I know, you will at this point get the iron out and make those creases POP! ) Pull the center of the tail up, turn the parachute and place it on the ground. Now you can dress the nose and slider, then slide the tail sides across and proceed with the purge/fold for each side. Give the attachment point a good linear tug out to the side - don't lift it, just pull it out so you have 6-8" of fabric sticking out to the side. Roll and bag the parachute. Nova "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

You can take care, don't rush and pay attention to the packjob. Just like the PRO pack, the parachute is flaked, the lines and stabilizers centered. When you turn the parachute and put it down, do so with intent. Don't just throw it out there. Hold the lines/slider in your right hand and place your left under the parachute and place it down. This prevents the previous work from becoming disrupted. Dress the nose and slider and then slide the tail when closing, don't lift or fling, which could pull a line out. Lineovers are almost a completely avoidable malfunction. No matter how you're packing, the most important aspect of having a good opening/parachute is keeping the lines clear and tight during the entire packing process. That's the basis of the trash pack, btw. N "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

You can roll it from the normal PRO coccoon. Flip the sides in, purge, pull the attachment point out and roll. If you're jumping new or slippery ZP you'll probably want to go back to the normal psycho. I prefer the psycho because after it is flipped, I dress the nose and slider, then close it up and roll. This little step makes for absolutely consistent openings. It's a degree of control that is difficult to recreate with the PRO pack. "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73

What you're describing is a modified PRO pack. The guys I know who use it call it the Sleeping Bag Roll. The parachute is laid nose-down and coccooned normally. The packer sits at the attachment point, looking down to the rig. Instead of S-folding, the parachute is lifted up against the chest and rolled down the topskin. The attachment point is pulled out with each roll so it stays where it normally would. At the bottom the standard first S-fold is induced. The advantage of the sleeping bag is that it goes into the bag easily and intact, as does the psycho. When one is proficient, it is quicker than a PRO and even a psycho. The disadvantage is it is a pain in the ass because with the nose down, the parachute wants spread out and open as the roll is attempted/performed. Control is an issue. Pulling on the attachment point the whole time doesn't inspire confidence the packjob is remaining intact. The psycho doesn't have this problem. I prefer the psycho because (a) it is fast, and (b) it gives me real control of the packjob = consistent, good openings. The whining about 180° induced linetwists is absurd. It's a small step in the packing procedure and if one is proficient at packing, it doesn't matter. .02 "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73