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Also, Robb Heady is defintely coming to the Ariel gathering. He will also be in Tacoma for Geoff's presentation on Friday and the symposium on Saturday morning at the Washington State Historical Museum. Not sure who's talking as I haven't seen any list of speakers. I haven't been invited to present, but the WSHM did revise their signage, and I got a direct accreditation for the pix they used from the Mountain News. That's nice.

Anyone know of any NEW actual Cooper info lately ?

Obviously he does not and he has no idea what a title search is and usually in every transaction I have known required when there is a loan. You can bet that property has changed has since 1972 and BINGO it is there for the taking. My only reservation is what the legal requirement was at particular dates KC had transactions. Requirements he and a buyer would have had to satisfy. I wouldnt be surprised if title searches are still not required (by Law) in some States. In States where mineral rights and easements are common, title searches may have become standard practice earlier. For example, I know of a case where a family sold a farm in 1966, with a one acre plot overlooking a river set aside for one relative (so he could have the family cabin... built with stone from the Mt Rushmore project in Dakota). It was under- stood the relative would always have access. But no easement was written into the title ... two buyers later (1990) the new owner kicked our relative "off his land". By the time the family got a lawyer involved the new buyer had bulldozed the cabin and was selling hunting rights to the land for quick cash! He simply told everyone who went to inquire "its my land now because you have no way to get to it"! It was a big blow to the extended family and the relative evicted. Feuds like this are common between farmers especially where large tracts of land are involved. I know in your home State of Kentucky where oil rights are now at issue, previously open land is now under very tight title constraints ... with lawyers in every tree! Very likely, KC's situation as a single person was simple - and traceable. Regardless of who made the claim first (Gray or Blevins), that Kenny was buying land with 'sudden cash' ... its probably all traceable, for anyone who wishes to do it. In spite of Blevins' protestations, this isn't rocket science!

Well, okay. You do realize you posted this unidentified person's quote as your own experience, right? Next time source the quote please. Uh, no he didn't! He certainly didn't mean it that way - and it doesn't exactly read that way, and it doesn't matter! What does matter is your attempting to use it in a diversionary mind game! A little like a vampire asking Dr. Jonas Salk ... "Hey buddy! What's your interest in blood! Show me your credentials! Show me your source!" Its another Blevins straw man and re-direction ! And its irrelevant trivia in any event. ITS PINK!

I think showing KC bought the Bonney Lake house for cash would be very helpful. With no confession, not matching the description and most of the witnesses' comments speculative at best, the main KC argument is that his whereabouts where unknown during the hijacking and he suddenly had a lot of money. Spending a bunch of cash is central to the claim that KC is a suspect. KC wasnt any more DB Cooper than you or I am! He doesn't fit the haplotype. The only thing KC fits is a movie script. The ONLY thing KC fits is a back story joint-plan to hijack the Cooper discussion as a part of attracting a movie script ... it all fell apart with Blevins! A back story is all these morons have or ever had! The fact that it partly succeeded for three long years ... is on the voters! Those WAGE EARNER SHEEPLE and SMACKED DOWN RED HAIRED STEPCHILDREN Blevins so arrogantly flipped off with - to show his utter contempt the residents of Cooperland! These people have run off to let Blevins and Adventure Books take the fall! His make-believe story is trashed ... and Gray has disassociated himself from the whole thing. The stain will be deep and lasting. Vote for Jo Weber - she's still a candidate!

Georger, I think the fellow in Southern California has the right idea but it's probably not one of the organizations you mentioned. Maybe it is the Smokers of the World, and I don't mean tobacco smokers, or the Organization of Little Green Men from Mars that sent Blevins. But if Blevins and NPR go the Decoded route, they will be claiming that it has now been proven that KC was Cooper based on the newly discovered fact, according to a "Leading Cooper Researcher", that all the land deeds associated with KC were faked by unbelievers, such as Smokin99, Shutter, and Jo Weber. And that all "True Believers" that KC was Cooper still swear on a stack of Bibles that only Blevins book (the 18th edition?) contains the "truth". Robert99 I assure you ... R2 does not belong to a cult!@ The real story will take a twist the cultists can't keep up with. Not even Hamma-Hamma ben Blevinaide Shri Raddish!

I watched your video. Coming up with "KeNNeV" from (ReNo NeV.) is interesting and imaginative but probably just coincidence. You need more proof. Forget about cooper writing his name on the Ticket. Your the only one that thinks Kenny wrote on it. However, remember Cooper probably did get a carbon copy and might have tried to replicate some of the handwriting from the carbon copy if he did write any cooper letters. Residue from testicular cells in the leau prove he was an expert in the Southern Sinai Script (proto Aaramaic) at Serabit el-Khadim. Possible link to Phonecian! Olve skin thus explained - This will be uploaded to YouTube too, in due course, too! Wasn't Duane Phonecian? Kenny was Scandinavian!

I like this one: ***'Most cynics are really crushed romantics: they've been hurt, they're sensitive, and their cynicism is a shell that's protecting this tiny, dear part in them that's still alive...' Jeff Bridges But this is my fave one on the subject. Gets right to the point and he's a writer I've always admired: Well dear Coopperite maven, (id. is a trusted expert in a particular field, who seeks to pass knowledge on to others. The word maven comes from Hebrew, via Yiddish, and ...) I am but a mere spectator to your occult art. Aren't you supposed to be camping in the Hamma Hamma!? You said you were.... and told this forum to GFI! Now you are baaaaaack, like Freddie Krueger again. posting heir, ja? I am simply trying to follow your various moves and contortions, and decipher your story! Which admittedly has become a very strange story to say the least! Some guy in So CA is now saying you are a "plant". A plant by WHO!? The FBI? A plant by MAADD? Your Kenny broomstick tale for all seasons ? The consummate Internet Disrupter? Don't blame me (or anyone else, sir) for your antics! We are mere spectators and some have become actual researchers! to this phenominon called Blevins Hamma Hamma Globalism. Wage earner sheeple notwithstanding of course! The graph says it al! Lordy, Lordy! Was eigentlich los ist!!!!

Well, due to the extremely heavy fog (which made target shooting beyond ten feet impossible), a weirded-out iPhone, and other factors, I got up early and returned home. I even tried to respond to your post last night from the campsite, but something wasn't working for me on that phone. Anyway, when I came home I saw your post above. First, I've seen that episode and I was wondering whether you were the younger guest who wrote the book on the Guidestones, or the one they interviewed second, the slightly older guy. I also wondered what in the heck the Burj Khalifa, a frickin' 2,700 foot skyscraper in Dubai, has to do with some engraved stones privately erected in Georgia. They seem so different somehow. One can hold 35,000 people and has 900 apartments, the other...well, a bit different. That said, I'm sorry you had such a poor experience with the Decoded crew. Mine was much different. No one 'fed me lines' and I never saw a script since they don't USE a script. Of course, they do work from a general story line so that everyone doesn't stand around talking about the weather. In my case, in one segment done at the Bonney Lake library, the director said: 'Just say what you think happened when the hijacker jumped and the cast will ask questions. Just answer the best you can...' No one ever told me what to say. EVER. So...I also would point out that if they fed you lines and you went along with that, this means you were willing to LIE to be on the show, is that correct? You could have said no, you could have said you didn't know anything about the Rosicrucians? Again, my experience was different. I worked very closely with associate producer Pete Berg and content research coordinator Marisa Kagan. Ms Kagan, especially, was very helpful to me in working with Bernie Geestman and helping to break through his initial lies regarding his relationship with Kenny Christiansen, and his attempts to force his own sister to withdraw things she had said previously. Kagan was very successful in this effort. Now...I think it's also true that some episodes of that show have been better than others. But none of that has to do with the show being phony, or guests being coerced into lying on camera. It has to do with subject content, i.e. some mysteries are so deep-seated that they simply cannot be solved completely in 44 minutes of TV programming. There seems to be a real effort in Cooperland to pick on anything in the media remotely related to Kenny Peter Christiansen. The evidence is there. Knocking on Decoded, calling Brad Meltzer a 'conspiracy theorist', (FYI: most of his books are actually NOVELS, and his top two non-fiction works are collections of stories about heroes like Rosa Parks, etc) posting hundreds of filthy-ass comments to any articles that appear on Kenny, and a wealth of other things. This has been typical. And frankly, I think I know the reason for this. It's because out of all the known suspects, the MOST evidence has been presented about Kenny, and this strikes fear into the hearts of anyone investigating the case who either doesn't believe it was Kenny, or who forwards a different suspect. It's a competition thing, and I discuss this in my new book. Hatred and backbiting go hand-in-hand in Cooperland. Too bad you felt you had to go along with a bunch of BS you were allegedly 'fed' in order to appear on the show. I would have refused, if they had asked me to do the same. Instead of whining about it now, maybe you should have insisted on the truth when you showed up for filming that day. Apr 26, 2010 ... But if all the translations ever made rendered the passage incorrectly, that would not ... It would have been good for that man if he had not been born. It would have been good for that man if he had not been born. ... It were better for him, if that man had not been born (Mt. 26:24 Douay).... Boy that was a quick camping trip in tje Hamma Hamma! Hamma Hamma. Heez .... baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!

Sorry but I wasn't invited. But I would have shown Kenneth P Christensen writing on the wall next to the playboy letter. ..But you can watch it now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atTJ_aEA8WQ I will be at Ariel this Nov. The composite you use is an aged one not the way he looked that night. What are the colors in a camouflage make up kit? List them by name. The DNA under the stamps will match Lyle. Or you! ???

If I had a suspect that I was pushing, Brad Meltzer is one of the last people I would want agreeing with me. These conspiracy theorists are all the same, and they are always wrong. agree strongly - the professionalism shown on that "carnival act" was laughable. The sad part is that uneducated people are sucked in and take it ... seriously? It's like the scene from "The Day the Earth Stood Still", a good sci-fi movie, where Klatu the alien goes into the professor's study and correct's his 'math'. In the next meeting between the two they are standing before the same chalk board ... and the math has changed! I always wondered if anyone in the audience knew what the math on those boards was - if it had anything to do with the plot! Does Meltzer know what the math on the board behind him is? Is Meltzer, Klatu? Its the same illusion done for effect. (The Meltzer-Blevins Effect). Who is copying who? This Cooper Gong Show, is all for ratings! Has nothing to do with the real Cooper case.

Look...I have to get going this morning, but I did read your post and I'll answer before I leave. First, name one person on this thread besides me who has already released SO much on a single suspect. Pictures, DD214 info, a death certificate, the names of actual witnesses, testimony on two TV shows you can view at YouTube, a comprehensive report submitted to the Seattle FBI, even a video where I explain the evidence in detail. I even did a video on the Ariel thing, for crying out loud. Besides, I already told you what the other property document was, anyway. It's an equity loan document showing the Grimes' borrowed $7,500 against the house in June of 1972. It would be good if you got all the documents on your own. One reason is because I think a second source in possession of those documents would be like a verification that they not only exist, but are accurate. So go for it. I don't KNOW why Kenny stayed for twenty-plus years at NWA under the circumstances he worked. Bandying around numbers concerning 'pay averages' doesn't tell the story of NWA, either. They were famous for underpaying people and cutting benefits. That's why they kept having the strikes. Anyone here asked themselves why Geoff Gray never posts? He's the original guy who not only broke the Christiansen story, but his book is heavily Christiansen-oriented right from the start. He told me why when we spoke at Third Place Books in Seattle. Made perfect sense, but I'm not going to quote him. You can probably guess anyway. I've released every single thing I've ever obtained on Christiansen up to this point. And the only reason I'm holding back on this latest doc is because it needs to be combined with everything available on that property. I need a complete picture of what really happened with that house. However, even if KC did pay cash somehow (I think he paid under the table, by the way) it won't prove a thing except he paid cash for a house. I can't find out where exactly he got the money, and that's one reason why I can't say for sure he's the hijacker. In reality, there isn't much more I can...or am willing to do...regarding Christiansen. The tools are there for any LEO or media outlet to check him out. You are also right when you say that what you have seen from AB and yours truly doesn't convince you KC was Cooper. That's because although there is a great deal of evidence against him, about half is witness testimony and those people need to be contacted by either LEO or maybe the media. And that's the reason I made the KC report public on the website. I have patience. At the rate it's being downloaded, sooner or later someone is going to get curious. And then maybe they will figure the whole thing out on Kenny. I'll be in the Hamma Hamma river area for the next few days listening to recordings of 'X-Minus One' and 'Dimension X,' and whatever NFL games are being broadcast this weekend. So I won't be posting until I return. Been working very hard since last Christmas and I need a vacation.

Yeah...Northwest Airlines back in the late sixties and into the seventies was a real high-paying employer with great benefits. Before you take that statement as truth, maybe you should speak to some of the employees who worked for the airline back then. They might have a different story for you. And I don't mean the pilots, just anyone else who wasn't an exec in the front office or something. You know...the rank and file. You think $3.20 an hour was even CLOSE to good wages in the Puget Sound area in 1970-71? That's a laugh. I had a part-time job as a teenager back then working for a lumber company in the Sumner area, pulling plywood sheets off the dryer line. They paid me five bucks an hour. After the Big Boeing Layoffs, my dad had to take a job there for a while, too. He was the one who got me hired. He was paid more of course, due to his age and work experience. Here's one way to look at it: I was making more at the lumber plant than Kenny was after working twenty years for the airline. I suggest contacting Bruce Kitt at the NWA Museum. He can be reached by email and I'm sure he will be happy to fill in details on his opinion regarding worker pay and benefits. When they interviewed him on Decoded, he admitted that unhappy employees at NWA went on strike so much they had a nickname for them: Cobra. (Meaning: 'They strike at anything.') Bruce said that. Neither you or Georger believe there is a chance in hell that Kenny Christiansen was Cooper. You call direct witness testimony from named people as 'hearsay'. The definition of hearsay is exactly how it sounds. You are quoting what you heard someone ELSE say, without corroboration. The witnesses I interviewed, with very limited exceptions, testified to what they knew by direct knowledge only. On the document: Because of the age of the documents we're trying to obtain, they are not online and this means a personal visit to Tacoma and some fees. And I have serious trust issues going with certain posters on this thread, and in my opinion, for VERY good reasons. So...I don't think I owe anyone here a damn thing. I'll release WHAT I want, WHEN I want, which is...if you're lucky and I feel like it. I may even just save it all for the book next summer. And I couldn't care less whether you think Kenny was the guy or the evidence is hogwash. That is perfectly within your rights and you have company there. Kenny polarizes people when they read his story. Either they think he was Cooper very strongly, or the other way around. I'm used to this. I haven't received all of the available docs yet on Kenny's house, anyway. Looks like the one I got last week is simply an equity loan taken out on the house by the Grimes' couple in June of 1972, in the amount of $7,500. Christiansen is not mentioned in the document, and I don't have the slightest idea WHY they would do that and then sell the house to Kenny in July. Or October perhaps. Whatever you believe. This is why I won't post up a piece here, a piece there. What I'm going to do is get EVERYTHING first, and then create a report on it based on the documents and what the RE agent is able to discover. I'm even considering a visit to Mrs. Grimes, who is still living. This is against my better nature, since I've said I'm OUT of the hitting-the-bricks part of investigating Christiansen. Still, I may do it just out of curiosity. But don't get your hopes up. Even if Kenny bought the house for cash, it still doesn't prove he hijacked the plane. Robert, You have the right definition of "hearsay". Now, let's talk about "strawman fallacies". That's when you mischaracterize someone's argument, and then refute it. Mr. Shutter did NOT say Kenny was highly compensated by NWA. He said that his salary was not much below the median income as reported by social security. As Smokin99 said much of the case in favor of Kenny being involved in the hijacking is that he suddenly had a lot more money right after. Even though a great deal of that should be in public records, most of your argument is based on witness testimony nearly 40 years after the fact. Could they be mistaken after such a long period? To ask for documentation does not mean anyone is accusing them of lying. And finally, anecdotal evidence can not be taken by itself proof of the larger group. If you were making $5 an hour in November 1971 on a part time job, that is not typical. That is a GREAT paying job. Looking at a CPI history converting that to 2013 dollars comes out to more than $28 per hour. Good for you if you got that, but I bet few did as well. If you feel some on this forum are not fair to you, do not respond to them. But you shouldn't use that as a reason to avoid providing documentation. Guess you really didn't examine my post. I don't give a shit whether you think you are 'owed' documentation or not. My trust factor meter on this thread is pretty close to zero. I said...I would provide a report and all the available documents when they arrive, when I understand what they mean, and when I decide, and that's that. Now it's late and I am supposed to be packing for a multi-day camping trip to the Olympics in the morning, which I deserve beyond belief, in my humble opinion. I'm out of here for a few days and glad of it.

Jo asked if SS deduction was mandatory in 71 with your employer. If you had an employer who didnt ask and wasn;t deducting, then you were in trouble. (The employer was also potentially in trouble with the IRS. I know several who were closed down and ruined by the fines alone...) Otherwise it was basically up to the employer and the employee what deductions were made. You were given a form and filled it out declaring number of deductions. Most wrote down one. But you also had the option, if the employer allowed it, of saying "no (zero) deductions" which meant your taxes weren't paid at the end of the year and you had to declare your income and pay any tax owed ... some who chose zero deductions then found themselves behind the eight ball owing the IRS and the IRS persued such people. But generally most employers just filled out the form for you and wrote down "1" deduction... Is that how you remember it? the only way is if they put you on a 1099. I have to do this because I have my own business. nobody will pay me unless I have a corporation. I think Jo is familiar with the old 1099. agree -

Jo asked if SS deduction was mandatory in 71 with your employer. If you had an employer who didnt ask and wasn;t deducting, then you were in trouble. (The employer was also potentially in trouble with the IRS. I know several who were closed down and ruined by the fines alone... after not paying any taxes on their employees AND pocketing '1 deduction' for each employee supposedly paying into SS... ) Employers who were pulling this stunt is where the concept of "independent contractor" began! Otherwise it was basically up to the employer and the employee what deductions were made, if your employer didn't automatically do it for you which most did. You were given a form and filled it out declaring number of deductions. Most wrote down one. But you also had the option, if the employer allowed it, of saying "no (zero) deductions" which meant your taxes weren't paid at the end of the year and you had to declare your income and pay any tax owed ... some who chose zero deductions then found themselves behind the eight ball owing the IRS and the IRS persued such people. But generally most employers just filled out the form for you and wrote down "1" deduction... Is that how you remember it?

Reality Hotel: Penthouse Suite (Room reserved) The reason I don't believe Marla's story is because none of her family would back her on it, even though they were there, and because of her Facebook postings after she went public, (some attached below) and maybe the results of an interview I did with her. The reason I don't believe Janet's story is because it doesn't make any sense. Unless you think she really saw Cooper tossing off flares at 10k feet several thousand feet above cloud cover and rain on Flight 305. You actually BELIEVE those things? LOL, give me a break. I would like to hear you explain why you do. Should be entertaining for sure.

Reality Hotel: Penthouse Suite (Room reserved) The reason I don't believe Marla's story is because none of her family would back her on it, even though they were there, and because of her Facebook postings after she went public, (some attached below) and maybe the results of an interview I did with her. The reason I don't believe Janet's story is because it doesn't make any sense. Unless you think she really saw Cooper tossing off flares at 10k feet several thousand feet above cloud cover and rain on Flight 305. You actually BELIEVE those things? LOL, give me a break. I would like to hear you explain why you do. Should be entertaining for sure.

That's right. And I have examined the other document, the one done by the Grimes' couple not in October, but the previous June. And what I'm doing right now is having an expert compare those documents and try to come to a conclusion about them. And...he is researching the property records for me. When I know, you'll know. Until then, I am releasing nothing further. Let's get a couple of things straight here. First, I am not the person who put forward that Kenny Christiansen bought that house for cash. You are MISINFORMED. That was Geoffrey Gray back in 2007, and he re-interated that point in his book in 2010. You understand this, correct? Geoffrey Gray...said...Kenny....bought the house for cash. I have questioned him on it, but not for a long time. He says YES. I asked if he was sure. Also YES. So I took his word for it. Today: Maybe there is doubt on this, so I am going to attempt to find the truth. And I know this is ambigious, but from what I have seen, what I have examined, and from certain witness testimony, I think the whole thing on Kenny's house, and the financials on it, as well as who was involved, smells to high heaven. That's an opinion. In reality, you should be going to GRAY on this question. I am not a real-estate expert. But I do know how to find resources and use them when needed. This is why I am having the property researched by someone who actually knows what they are doing, and letting HIM work with the docs. That way, I can be assured of the truth. The case I helped build against Kenny Christiansen does not rely so much on money, but on motive, whereabouts at the time of the crime, the testimony of witnesses, pictures (to a degree) and other things. Much is circumstantial, but it is a GREAT DEAL of circumstantial. It is not a myth. However, since I can't be absolutely sure, other proof is required. I will always believe it is a simple road to the truth on Christiansen, but I am not able to hit the on-ramp for that road. This must be done by either a legit media source, or the Seattle FBI. My opinion is that it is now beyond the scope of citizen sleuths. Until then, it will always be impossible to prove that Kenny Christiansen was DB Cooper. Pending new other evidence, forthcoming maybe, Blevins does the Vulcan Mind Shift and signals with two fingers: (1) Its all Gray's fault... I trusted Gray. (his good friend he roomed with at Cooper College and has cited endlessly in this thread, including that Georger 'was born and raised in Vancouver WA! and discussed Cooper at every meal'... in spte of denials!) (2) and a brand new switcheroo: "The case I helped build against Kenny Christiansen does not rely so much on money, but on motive, whereabouts at the time of the crime, the testimony of witnesses, pictures (to a degree) and other things. Much is circumstantial, but it is a GREAT DEAL of circumstantial. It is not a myth. Thus no longer is the fantastical purchases and sales of property with post hyjack Cooper ransom money, a central focus and claim in Blevins' Cooper Crime Ontology ... and this sudden switcheroo comes only after three years of denial and being faced with FACTS Blevins cannot squirm out of ... again! And it's all Geoff Gray's fault. The research was Gray's, not Blevins'! (3) In a colorful metaphor it sounds like Blevins is giving up, when he sayz: I will always believe it is a simple road to the truth on Christiansen, but I am not able to hit the on-ramp for that road. ... Hit the on-ramp? Do you suppose Blevins was wrong about the Janet Story too? Blevins is now in the same soup as Marla who he so severely condemned ... on moral grounds! That Marla! That woman! That Blevins! Marla and Blevins went up the on ramp To fetch a pail of Cooper. Marla fell down and broke her crown, And Blevins came tumbling after.[1]

Holy Moley! It's Buckwheat! How old are 'ee? About 104? Howz Ma n Pah ? I watched you as a kid! Best to ya there Buckwheat. http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/health/series/recipes_for_health/buckwheat/ Hi. I'm only 44. I think you have me confused with the famous buckwheat character from our gang. Quite familiar with buckwheat recipes, thanks. Buckwheat pancakes are my faves. Oh that's a shame. My sympathies. Take care.

Holy Moley! It's Buckwheat! How old are 'ee? About 104? Howz Ma n Pah ? I watched you as a kid! What happened after your brief career with the Lakers? Wanna see my hand made metal can? Best to ya ther Buckwheat. http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/health/series/recipes_for_health/buckwheat/

Well now...come on. I've never provided Geestman's physical address to anyone except the Seattle FBI. If I inadvertently gave out that PO box, I don't know why I would have done that. He canceled that box years ago. If so, I apologize. Geestman's physical address is available in the unedited version of the KC report, but only to a legit media rep or law enforcement, or anyone NEUTRAL without pre-conceived notions on either the case itself or a particular suspect. I feel a certain responsibility to NOT make these peoples' contact information available on a public forum regarding one D.B. Cooper. I have seen what some Cooper Folks do, and it ain't a pretty thing, although most are okay. Look...I'm not afraid of the idea that if the media actually did a full-scale investigation of the report that they would discover that KC wasn't the hijacker. I've always said I wouldn't mind knowing one way or another. As far as 'for profit,' that's a laugh. I've turned down a total of (estimated) $24,000 between the History Channel, the Adrenaline Hunter show, and the film rights offer from the Paradigm client in New York. And we still haven't recovered all the costs we incurred researching and producing the book. And I couldn't care less. The truth is all I want, that's all, whether that truth is KC WAS or he WASN'T Cooper. Hey, I promise I won't toss myself off a bridge if a good media source proved Kenny wasn't the hijacker. Or if the FBI actually checked him out and discovered the same thing. But on the FBI angle, I would like to see confirmed reasons on how they came to that conclusion. Not that I don't trust them, but...(*smiles*) See: 'How the Seattle FBI Bought Marla's Story Hook, Line, and Sinker and Got Burned'. And how exactly would you know I 'smeared the memory of Kenny Christiansen'. That makes as much sense as what you accuse of your own husband, right? Besides, you should be telling this not to ME...but to people like Geoff Gray, who was the first to ID Christiansen as a possible suspect. All I did were some interviews, and attempted to discover the truth when people chose to lie. My Bad: Paradise Point IS on the Lewis River. My mistake. Robert, I agree it's a good idea to not post private contact information on a public forum, but please consider giving Geestman's contact information to Jo. She'd be contacting him about Skyjack, but not accusing him at all (since she's researching Duane). Say what you will about Jo, but she is excellent at ferreting out information. Contacting him could possibly give closure on KC as a suspect, since he is Kenny's alibi. small point of clarification > Kenny's alibi - according to guess who! ? The reality could be quite different! Blevins' account could be total fabrication _ based on a complete lack of information/facts _ which Bevins then fills in on his own, as we know he quite often does when he hits a gap in hard facts! "Adventiure" offers a wide latitude for "making things up wholesale". Then SOLD wholesale over 4157 posts here and who knows how many other publishings elsewhere! It's an ADVENTURE! Rationality when it comes to Cooper suspects has always been in short supply. Publish crap or PERISH! The main goal is to stay in the game.

Precisely what did you order? Just a copy of the last transactions or did you get a history on the property? The County records maintain all of the transactions on a piece of property - HOW the hell do YOU think real estate transactions occur. The history of every track of land is traced for many many yrs - this is required in order to provide TITLE INSURANCE. No one want to by a piece of property without Title Insurance. If they do they are damn fools...in todays time. Title Insurance is REQUIRED to get a loan or mortgage. Now if someone is fool hardy enough to pay cash for a piece of real estate without a TITLE search they need to have their heads examined. Cases have been found in Title searches on land that rights to certain aspects of the property are owned by an oil company for example. Now if you found oil in your back yard - you would want to own those rights - yes or no? In the good ole days a cash transaction and hand shake was all that was usually needed. NOT today. You can go to the County Records and go into the archives yourself. These are PUBLIC records! I expect the records there go back at least 100 yrs. Most individual depend on the TITLE companies to do this. Back in the day there were NO title companies and one could buy a small farm and it was there. Now MOST STATES mandate the mineral rights belong to who ever purchased them. Some states allow the mineral rights to past with the transaction and others are SUBJECT TO. Your advice to Adventire Books is good. Blevins will probably ignore it. The backstory swirling in levels of mystery is essential.

When will the Pee Party Cristiansen shutdown end? And should we raise the debt ceiling on all of this Christiansen BS ? When will sober minds prevail?