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When will the Pee Party Cristiansen shutdown end? And should we raise the debt ceiling on all of this Christiansen BS ? When will sober minds prevail?

wow! I can give you a lifetime's work here!

Something tells me that it won't be necessary to stroke my MENSA card to conjure the knowledge that Blevins will be all over you for that comment. One cannot hide one's light under a bushel.

Jo, I know EXACTLY what you are saying above. And I am several years older than you. Plus I have another birthday coming up on November 24th (the anniversary of the hijacking). Things ARE as bad as they seem. Nevertheless, just hang in there. Best wishes. Robert99 Stressing out about it only makes it worse. Proven in countless clinical studies. Just think. Your mind still works! Lao Tse had it right! 'The body goes where the mind takes it' Relax and set smaller goals. Stop smoking or cut way back; that will help greatly by reducing vascular constriction. You will sleep better and repair better ... Best of luck. (Now if I can follow my own advice!) Georger, You are right again. It's all between the ears. Im good at giving advice - lousy at taking it! Later - G

Jo, I know EXACTLY what you are saying above. And I am several years older than you. Plus I have another birthday coming up on November 24th (the anniversary of the hijacking). Things ARE as bad as they seem. Nevertheless, just hang in there. Best wishes. Robert99 Stressing out about it only makes it worse. Proven in countless clinical studies. Just think. Your mind still works! Lao Tse had it right! 'The body goes where the mind takes it' Relax and set smaller goals. Stop smoking or cut way back; that will help greatly by reducing vascular constriction. You will sleep better and repair better ... Best of luck. (Now if I can follow my own advice!)

In Due Time! They better HURRY! NO one is going to reveal the truth until I after I have died - they might not have to wait much longer! Jo, You started playing the health card almost 10 years ago. Then about two or three years ago you started playing the one-foot-in-the-grave card. Now you seem to be coming out with the both-feet-in-the-grave card. Using "remote viewing", I can see the headlines in the Florida panhandle newspapers, and maybe even the network TV news programs, about 30 years from now to the effect that: "Jo Weber died today at the age of 104. She is noted for having spent the last 50+ years of her life trying to prove that her late husband, Duane Weber, was the famous airliner hijacker D. B. Cooper. She wrote 12 books on her attempts to link Duane Weber with the hijacking. Two years ago, during an appearance on a cable TV talk show, she admitted that she may have misunderstood what Duane whispered to her while on his death bed. She now feels that there is a possibility that Duane was simply saying that his room was too cool and wanted her to turn the thermostat up a few degrees. A life long marathon runner, at the age of 80 she established a new record for her age group in the New York City Marathon. She has requested that, in lieu of flowers, donations be made to the Oregon Order of Carmelite Nuns. She also requested that her ashes be scattered at Tina Bar on the banks of the Columbia River near Vancouver, Washington." Robert99 A poor attempt at humor on the back of an older widow, I must say. This comes to us from the same guy who couldn't even ID a railroad strap on a river, (I Googled the article picture in less than ten seconds) and thinks he can move jet aircraft miles off their course (without proof) in an attempt to explain the money at Tena Bar. You keep trying to discredit everything I say, but the problem is I am basically open and honest with people, and I think they sense that. Plus, I am accessible and people like that, too. This is where I have an advantage, i.e. I don't hide in the shadows. You want to ask me something, discuss an issue? No problem. Baby, I'm there. Beats hiding in the rocks and shadows any day of the week. Blavins. you are babbling complete utter nonsense again. And you are the self appointed guru who is going to write a book about 'Cooper nuts' and 'Cooper Land'? Maybe you should start with "Cooper Had a Little Lamb' first, and see how that goes.

Speak for yourself. Maybe these 'mainstream people' you talk about should start answering the 20-40 emails a week I receive from either readers of Blast, or others with a general interest in the case. It would save me a lot of time if they would do so. (*laughs*) EDIT: I actually checked my email box. It's like a dozen messages a week, on average. Just SEEMS like more sometimes. I answer them all except the occasional message from a Cooper Nut. Define "Cooper Nut" ... excluding yourself of course! And where is this "Cooperlandt uber alles" ? Too bad about the drop in Cooperlandt email since your last report. Just make something up ?

Blevins, My translation from the above Blevins-speak is that you want someone else to do your research. In the meantime, you are working on a book to blow the lid right off the Cooper thread by exposing the phonies here who do not buy your theories much less your books (including the forthcoming one). Here's a question for you. If Geestman "has consistently lied about practically EVERYTHING" then, using your logic, when Geestman stated that KC could have been Cooper he was actually saying that KC was NOT Cooper. But you will probably give Geestman the benefit of a doubt on that quote since you need it to support your theories about KC. And you state that you are holding back information from others, presumably including the FBI. So it is safe to assume that anything you are holding back is not relevant to KC or the Cooper investigation. Otherwise, you would have already used that information to support your theories about KC. Robert99 First, although I make some mention in Cooperland about Cooper Nuts and their activities, I don't get too specific about it, link articles, or name names. It's true I thought about doing just that. But then I figured that would be self-serving and wouldn't contribute to the book. So I dropped that idea. Mostly the book is a personal journey, more of an autobiography than anything else. I talk about growing up in the Land of DB Cooper (Puget Sound) and a number of other things. It doesn't present any new evidence against Christiansen, either. In fact, it has very little to do with the actual hijacking. No...the FBI received the unedited, non-public version of the Christiansen Report. As far as I know, they haven't done anything with it. The point of Geestman saying on television that he agrees with the cast that KC could be the hijacker has NOTHING to do with whether he's telling the truth or not. It's actually an opinion statement anyway, not testimony of fact. The point is this: WHY would he endorse KC as the hijacker when he was WITH KC the entire week of the hijacking. The point...which I have made several times now...is that he should have offered KC an ALIBI instead. Funny and weird! Nobody I know is interested in ANYTHING you have to say, about ANYTHING! Just one more half finished blip in the cosmos full of same, useless to mainstream existence, and soon to be forgotten ... and actually avoided by mainstream people during your lifetime. Congrats on your achievment in utter uselessness. A few will laugh and walk away shaking their heads!

Blevins, My translation from the above Blevins-speak is that you want someone else to do your research. In the meantime, you are working on a book to blow the lid right off the Cooper thread by exposing the phonies here who do not buy your theories much less your books (including the forthcoming one). Here's a question for you. If Geestman "has consistently lied about practically EVERYTHING" then, using your logic, when Geestman stated that KC could have been Cooper he was actually saying that KC was NOT Cooper. But you will probably give Geestman the benefit of a doubt on that quote since you need it to support your theories about KC. And you state that you are holding back information from others, presumably including the FBI. So it is safe to assume that anything you are holding back is not relevant to KC or the Cooper investigation. Otherwise, you would have already used that information to support your theories about KC. Robert99 IF (large 'if') the FBI or someone else were to solve the Cooper case tomorrow, would the 'Cooper suspect pushers" stop? Probaby not. Why? Addiction. They would continue to argue and be mean and push their 'versions' of the story... Its a personal addiction. The Cooper case is a convenient locus for their personal addictions, which make no mistake. are deep seated addictions. None of it has anything to do with the DB Cooper case. The internet and threads like this have become the convenient opportunity for expression.

I'm going to do a sort of 'combination reply' here to both yours and Robert99's posts. Yours first. I grew up in Sumner, WA. It's basically my home town and I went to school there. So I'm pretty familiar with the area. Kenny's rent back in 1971 would have run about a hundred dollars to a hundred and twenty a month. As far as his financial situation in the years prior to the hijacking, there are the letters home, the low-end jobs, the testimony from the people who knew him best. There is no smoking gun on Kenny as the hijacker. I have said that. Some of the case on Kenny is based not on documents or pictures, but on the testimony of witnesses whom I feel are telling the truth. And some of the suspicions on Kenny are based on the lies of another witness. It's hard to explain these things to people who weren't there for the interviews. This is also why I finally condensed everything down into the Christiansen Report and made it public. There is a slightly more comprehensive version of that report, which I would be willing to make available to the right (see: responsible) people. You see, there is one big difference between the claims made on Christiansen and say...LD Cooper. I have made it possible to check them out. There are sources, there are names, there is contact information. So...if someone either in LEO or the legit media REALLY wanted to discover the truth on Christiansen, they might be able to do it by using the unedited version of the report. I held back nothing, and I even say that the report is more accurate than the book. That is the difference, and it's a big one. Personally, I'm tired of chasing the Christiansen thing out in the real world. I ran myself ragged and spent thousands of dollars doing that. So other than the occasional email or phone call, I'm no longer hitting the bricks on him. The report itself is being downloaded dozens of times of week from both the Newsvine article and the AB website. I figure sooner or later...someone is going to get curious about it. Someone with the ability and backing to travel around, check it out, someone with more resources than I am willing to dedicate to it. In other words...someone (or an organization) is going to figure out the truth on KC using that report sooner or later. Remember...I don't tell people KC is the hijacker. I simply say there is enough evidence to check him out. So far, the Seattle FBI does not agree. They dismissed him back in 2007 after the Gray article came out in New York Magazine. But they did so even before I got involved, or found any of the witnesses or other things pointing to Christiansen as a suspect. They can be confusing sometimes. They dismiss him in 2007, but in 2010-11, I get emails and phone calls from the Seattle media officer saying, 'Some think he's a good suspect, others think there are better suspects...' which means little. To Robert99: Documentation? I'm not giving up EVERYTHING, you know. I think I've provided enough. You asked for proof Kenny served as a paratrooper. I gave you his DD214 info. Others hinted around ('from a source I trust,' he said) that Kenny died of Kaposi's Sarcoma and was possibly HIV-positive. I gave you his death certificate and the name of his doctor. Someone else asked me how I knew that the selection of Kenny's house was no accident, and I presented a document showing he bought it from good friends of Geestman, a guy who has consistently lied about practically EVERYTHING that could possibly link him to the hijacking. This includes lying about his employment, his whereabouts during the crime, attempted witness tampering, and a number of other things. Over the last few months, I have moved on from actively investigating Christiansen. The report is out there. Let someone else run it to ground and see if it's accurate. My main interest these days is in the story surrounding Cooper in general. The people, the investigations, the celebrations, the Nuts. That's why I decided to do a book on how I came to be involved (mixed feelings on that) and all of the things that came afterward. Cooperland, I call it. This is catharsis to me and I am moving forward on that. I look at Kenny and think: "I did what I could. Let someone else take it from here if they want. And if they DON'T want, that is okay, too..." Would you like to ride in my beautiful balloon? Would you like to glide in my beautiful balloon? We could float among the stars together you and I For we can fly, yeah, we can fly Up, up and away in my beautiful My beautiful balloon The world's a nicer place in my beautiful balloon It wears a nicer face in my beautiful balloon We can sing a song and sail along the silver sky For we can fly, wee, we can fly Up, up and away in my beautiful My beautiful balloon Suspended under the twilight canopy We'll search the clouds for a star to guide us If by some chance you find yourself loving me We'll find a cloud to hide us People lean beside us Love is waiting there in my beautiful balloon Away up in the air in my beautiful balloon If you hold my hand we'll chase a dream Across the sky For we can fly, we can fly (Come on let's fly) Up, up and away in my beautiful My beautiful balloon In my pretty balloon My balloon, my balloon das vidanya The True Story of DB Cooper!

The Blevins Show is not about fact, but Entertainment. Don't you find him entertaining? He's a nice guy! As 377 said: This forum is not about Content but Behavior. As the Great Lenin said: United forever in friendship and labour, Our mighty republics will ever endure. The Great Soviet Union will live through the ages. The dream of a people their fortress secure. Long live our Soviet motherland, Built by the people's mighty hand. Long live our people, united and free. Strong in our friendship tried by fire. Long may our crimson flag inspire, Shining in glory for all men to see. Through days dark and stormy where Great Lenin lead us Our eyes saw the bright sun of freedom above And Stalin our leader with faith in the people, Inspired us to build up the land that we love. Long live our Soviet motherland, Built by the people's mighty hand. Long live our people, united and free. Strong in our friendship tried by fire. Long may our crimson flag inspire, Shining in glory for all men to see. We fought for the future, destroyed the invaders, And brought to our homeland the laurels of fame. Our glory will live in the memory of nations And all generations will honour her name. Long live our Soviet motherland, Built by the people's mighty hand. Long live our people, united and free. Strong in our friendship tried by fire. Long may our crimson flag inspire, Shining in glory for all men to see. das vidanya The True Story of DB Cooper! Would you like to ride in my beautiful balloon? Would you like to glide in my beautiful balloon? We could float among the stars together you and I For we can fly, yeah, we can fly Up, up and away in my beautiful My beautiful balloon The world's a nicer place in my beautiful balloon It wears a nicer face in my beautiful balloon We can sing a song and sail along the silver sky For we can fly, wee, we can fly Up, up and away in my beautiful My beautiful balloon Suspended under the twilight canopy We'll search the clouds for a star to guide us If by some chance you find yourself loving me We'll find a cloud to hide us People lean beside us Love is waiting there in my beautiful balloon Away up in the air in my beautiful balloon If you hold my hand we'll chase a dream Across the sky For we can fly, we can fly (Come on let's fly) Up, up and away in my beautiful My beautiful balloon In my pretty balloon My balloon, my balloon das vidanya The True Story of DB Cooper!

Not really. I don't run porn on my computer or get weird on people. See Skyjack, page 247-248. Never mind. I will just post the passage for you from the guy (Geoff Gray) you like to quote on a personal basis but obviously haven't checked his book: ***'I follow Knoss through the front door, and he shuffles up the stairs. The house is a wreck. Boxes are everywhere, closets are stuffed with old toys, more boxes, framing equipment, cases of V-8. The dining room is buried under papers, antiques, tchotchkes. I use the bathroom. The cabinet over the sink is open, and the shelves are lined with empty pill bottles. I try the spigot to wash my hands. It doesn't work. What happened to Bob Knoss? I walk into the living room. It is a graveyard of old clocks and bronze statuettes, a small army of figurine soldiers that stand guard on the shag carpet. The soldiers are designed to protect the clocks, he says. "That one's Don Juan. That's Don Cesar." He is sitting at his computer, trying to find the documents on his hard drive. He spins around in his chair to explain the business of repairing old clocks. As he talks, the screen saver on the computer screen flashes on. I see breasts. Huge breasts. Colassal jugs. The screen changes. Now it's a thong buried in the crevice of an oiled-up butt. Now it's a vagina. Now another vagina. I look around Knoss's computer station. I see a copy of Domination Nation , a porn movie that features women taking over the world. Richarch McCoy played a role in Domination Nation under a different name, Knoss claims...' I guarantee that if you stopped by our place, the only thing you'll get is coffee and some cool space pictures for screen savers.

I've seen those many times. I don't see the point here. Guy goes down the stairs, okay. We can hope they didn't use hydraulics or something else to keep the stairs fully extended in flight. If not, it's a decent test. Maybe they should have had the guy jump at the approximate jump point claimed by the crew and Paul Soderlind's team. Then look around for a body.

Thank you.. if you slide the top of the R to the bottom of the v it will make a Y Then slide the E off the top of the N and now you can see KENNEY... now you can say GC 148 you've done it.. BTW Curtis Eng said that on 6-17-2013.... after I discovered the handwriting matches on 6-13-2013. This is why I was 100% sure when I was on my way to the FBI. Case solved 6-13-2013 And a Partridge in a Pear Tree! Hell I could make the ancient Aramaic aleph-bet Jesus spoke and twenty other alphabets in foreign languages out of those 'strokes'. All you've demonstrated is that Proto Hominids still walk among us and toil away in lines and strokes! Dont have one! YaHooooo! Eng probably told you you had solved the case just to gain time to call the looney squad! Sorry Sir... but Curtis called me and told 2 weeks later and still said I had solved it... . DNA, finger prints, handwriting, are concrete.... So in this case DNA,Handwriting,will have to do thank you for being 1 of maybe 5 out of 100s that have seen my book how many have sold I do not know its been less than 30 days ? I guess we'll be seeing you on CNN, Disney channel, and on the front page of Time. Blevins can arrange for you to lecture at Carnagie Watermelon!

Thank you.. if you slide the top of the R to the bottom of the v it will make a Y Then slide the E off the top of the N and now you can see KENNEY... now you can say GC 148 you've done it.. BTW Curtis Eng said that on 6-17-2013.... after I discovered the handwriting matches on 6-13-2013. This is why I was 100% sure when I was on my way to the FBI. Case solved 6-13-2013 And a Partridge in a Pear Tree! Hell I could make the ancient Aramaic aleph-bet Jesus spoke and twenty other alphabets in foreign languages out of those 'strokes'. All you've demonstrated is that Proto Hominids still walk among us and toil away in lines and strokes! Dont have one! YaHooooo! Eng probably told you you had solved the case just to gain time to call the looney squad!

I've seen those many times. I don't see the point here. Guy goes down the stairs, okay. We can hope they didn't use hydraulics or something else to keep the stairs fully extended in flight. If not, it's a decent test. Maybe they should have had the guy jump at the approximate jump point claimed by the crew and Paul Soderlind's team. Then look around for a body.

a few 'bundles' of the bills. may point to a catastrophe.

Im writing from Quantumko. These letters have been tamper with. The K's are merely (the) R's with the tops chopped off.

Maybe this, maybe that. Lyle wasn't rich, nor did he give Kenny money. Do you understand the term 'double standard'? YOU were the one demanding answers to certain questions. When I work on providing those answers, you come aboard with a load of BS. Why should I ignore Geestman or his ex-wife? The wife has consistently pointed to her husband as being involved in the hijacking in SIX interviews over a NINE MONTH period. Some interviews went for the entire weekend. On the last one, she admits Bernie was actually with Christiansen the week they disappeared. Meanwhile, Bernie has been telling a shitload of lies all along, more of which emerge all the time. So I should ignore all that? Get real. You officially go on the 'ignore question list'. Next time you have a question on Kenny, have someone else post it for you. Funny!

Maybe Kenny had a rich brother named Lyle? And got burned in the process, until at length Kenny was able to pay Lyle back at the end? Something held these two guys together during Kenny's life such that Kenny wills his estate to Lyle in the end ... ? Maybe forget Margaret Ann Miller (Geestman) and Bernie Geestman and ask Lyle what he hasn't told/shown you? There is something that explains Lyle trying to cash in. Have you ever asked Margaret and Bernie about Lyle? They might not want to talk about it! It could be the Standard model rather than the Relativistic Geestman model which relies on 4 Clydesdales passing through the eye of a camel?

Whatever. You REALLY don't like it when people stand up to you, do you? Well, you know what? That's like kinda too bad. The Comeback Kid. So stand up for a change! ?????

What? You've gone from quoting Geoff Gray and moved to the Palmer family? No way! Get out of town! (*laughs*) I don't mind if you misquote others, but this is what I actually said: Gayla says (to the best of her recall, since we get DOZENS of manila envelopes here a week from potential authors) that the paperwork probably came from a family member. But she isn't really sure. I told her that I had sent out inquiries to both Portland State U and members of the family, so I told her, yes...it could have been a family member. But that was like a year before we got the envelope. I hardly glanced at the thing. The only reason I decided to chase this any further is because you squawked so loudly about it. So make up your mind, please. I have two email answers on this from family members that I found through Facebook. They are waiting for specifics on my request. Should I go into details with them or not? Otherwise, I don't care and you can look them up on Facebook yourself and talk to them yourself. Try to understand something here: People send us Cooper Crap all the time. ALL THE TIME. The stuff from Lyle isn't crap, though. Mostly that's just 'cute,' like the time he sent the handmade jigsaw puzzle with the picture of Kenny next to the Cooper Sketch. (Says at the bottom of the picture, in the puzzle itself: 'If It Fits, You Cannot Acquit'. Cute, funny. Yes. Skyjack71: I have no idea who Gilliam is or how to contact him. When you give out a name or a reference, you have to give DETAILS that can be REALISTICALLY CHECKED OUT. Last names alone don't work, especially when we are talking about events from forty plus years ago. Puyallup, even back then, was a reasonably large town. I have some responses to certain questions that have been asked about Kenny, but I'm waiting for responses from ALL the parties I asked. When I can present something that will satisfy the rabid dogs around here, I'll post it. Not sure why you want to see this stuff anyway. You'll always believe Kenny got the money from any other source except NWA and none of you believes Kenny is a good suspect anyway, correct? The thing that interests me most is that you continue to ask questions, though...almost like you secretly wonder if the Christiansen Report is accurate, but haven't the nerve to admit it. Blevins sqwaks: "The only reason I decided to chase this any further is because you squawked so loudly about it. So make up your mind, please. I have two email answers on this from (Palmer) family members that I found through Facebook. They are waiting for specifics on my request." I had nothing to do with your search, by your own words! "Some years back, when I read Palmer's obituary, I started sending out letters to some of the people mentioned in the obituary asking about the report. Also to Portland State University. ..." (Sep 10, 2013, 8:48 PM Post #46792 of 47370 ) A year later at least, you say in other posts, you received the Palmer Report which you later identified as "from somebody in the Palmer family". At least a year later you announced it here for the first time! You registered here in August 2010. This is October 2013. So your search by your own admission, predates anything I would or even could have said, BY YEARS! BY YOUR OWN ACCOUNT! You need a clock ... and a calendar to keep track of your fabrications! I will await your next fabrication and maybe deal with it then, maybe not. BTW, by actual count, you have linked your receiving the Palmer report to quote: "someone in the Palmer family", at least eight times in this thread. You seem to be boasting! Go play your Revisionist blame game Boast with somebody else, troll. Wow. You really don't like it when people stand up to you, do you? 'A year later at least' you say about a post from September 2013? Sounds like something from my time machine sci-fi book The Corona Incident. You are kidding, right? Sometimes I think even YOU don't understand what you are entering on that keyboard. And I'm not a troll, by the way. Like I said - YOU CANT TELL TIME. Your Sept 013 post says, quote: "Some years back, when I read Palmer's obituary, I started sending out letters ..." Years plural implies at least two ... 2013 - 2 = 2011? 2013 - 3 = 2010? You joined in Aug 2010 You claim it was all because I was complaining about needing additional Palmer papers ? (which may not even exist) ? I have no posts about anything like this back then. Back then we were all dealing with your damned book! So find some other excuse. Or was your Sept 2013 post a Fabrication too? Im sure you will have a comeback - you always do. [edit] BTW, here's the Leonard Palmer Memorial you are referring to, and never tagged: just in case others would like tosee it too? http://geology.pdx.edu/files/Emeriti/Palmer/index.html How about that ? You arent the only person who ever talked to the family. It's been thoroughly discussed ... by all including Geoff Gray! So, if you want to know about it email Geoff Gray (isnt that your line?).

What? You've gone from quoting Geoff Gray and moved to the Palmer family? No way! Get out of town! (*laughs*) I don't mind if you misquote others, but this is what I actually said: Gayla says (to the best of her recall, since we get DOZENS of manila envelopes here a week from potential authors) that the paperwork probably came from a family member. But she isn't really sure. I told her that I had sent out inquiries to both Portland State U and members of the family, so I told her, yes...it could have been a family member. But that was like a year before we got the envelope. I hardly glanced at the thing. The only reason I decided to chase this any further is because you squawked so loudly about it. So make up your mind, please. I have two email answers on this from family members that I found through Facebook. They are waiting for specifics on my request. Should I go into details with them or not? Otherwise, I don't care and you can look them up on Facebook yourself and talk to them yourself. Try to understand something here: People send us Cooper Crap all the time. ALL THE TIME. The stuff from Lyle isn't crap, though. Mostly that's just 'cute,' like the time he sent the handmade jigsaw puzzle with the picture of Kenny next to the Cooper Sketch. (Says at the bottom of the picture, in the puzzle itself: 'If It Fits, You Cannot Acquit'. Cute, funny. Yes. Skyjack71: I have no idea who Gilliam is or how to contact him. When you give out a name or a reference, you have to give DETAILS that can be REALISTICALLY CHECKED OUT. Last names alone don't work, especially when we are talking about events from forty plus years ago. Puyallup, even back then, was a reasonably large town. I have some responses to certain questions that have been asked about Kenny, but I'm waiting for responses from ALL the parties I asked. When I can present something that will satisfy the rabid dogs around here, I'll post it. Not sure why you want to see this stuff anyway. You'll always believe Kenny got the money from any other source except NWA and none of you believes Kenny is a good suspect anyway, correct? The thing that interests me most is that you continue to ask questions, though...almost like you secretly wonder if the Christiansen Report is accurate, but haven't the nerve to admit it. Blevins sqwaks: "The only reason I decided to chase this any further is because you squawked so loudly about it. So make up your mind, please. I have two email answers on this from (Palmer) family members that I found through Facebook. They are waiting for specifics on my request." I had nothing to do with your search, by your own words! "Some years back, when I read Palmer's obituary, I started sending out letters to some of the people mentioned in the obituary asking about the report. Also to Portland State University. ..." (Sep 10, 2013, 8:48 PM Post #46792 of 47370 ) A year later at least, you say in other posts, you received the Palmer Report which you later identified as "from somebody in the Palmer family". At least a year later you announced it here for the first time! You registered here in August 2010. This is October 2013. So your search by your own admission, predates anything I would or even could have said, BY YEARS! BY YOUR OWN ACCOUNT! You need a clock ... and a calendar to keep track of your fabrications! I will await your next fabrication and maybe deal with it then, maybe not. BTW, by actual count, you have linked your receiving the Palmer report to quote: "someone in the Palmer family", at least eight times in this thread. You seem to be boasting! Go play your Revisionist blame game Boast with somebody else, troll.

Thanks for the reminder. I had forgotten about the reading room. I love LDS for all of the work they have done on family histories. I need to read up on the history behind the LDS genealogy projects While you're at it, research the Palmer report Blevins claims 'someone from the Palmer family' sent him! Which they have told numerous people, they never had to send - anyone, in the first place.

Document doesn't say he SOLD it for ten dollars. Says he BOUGHT it for ten dollars and 'other considerations'. That was the lot adjoining the house. And I never considered you a Cooper Nut. Document attached. Side Note: Helen Jones testified that the same people who sold Kenny the adjoining lot were also the same people who sold him the house. As you know, I am waiting for the comparison documents from either/both Geoff Gray and Skipp Porteous on the original house sale. I will compare what they submit to what I have now. Will post when they arrive. Really though...this house-for-cash question has been going since 2007, and forwarded originally by Geoff Gray, both in his book and in his NYM article. And it's been six years before anyone here thinks to ask him HOW he knows? Now they want ME to provide? It's laughable. But I will do it anyway, since all the serious Cooper investigators around here seem to have forgotten one of the main points that made Christiansen a suspect in the first place...and still haven't tried asking the original source. Just to be clear - I never once said that anyone "made" anything up. What's laughable is that someone wrote a book stating many things as fact and actually has no clue whether what he wrote is true or not. And won't just say that and be done with it. Blevins says that he will compare what they send to what he has now. LOL.. Sorry - but if he had it he would have posted it. How many times have we heard Blevins call someone out wanting proof of things they write, and then when someone does this to him, he accuses them of pathetic attempts to get info, and whining and picking on him. And brings up how we are all Cooperland nuts. Come on.. Give me a fa-rick-in break. As for why this hasn't been questioned before. It actually has - on this forum. A couple of times even. But it was never answered and I guess part of the reason I did not pursue is how much time do you spend on someone that doesn't meet some of the basic physical charateristics? I don't know. I guess I'll have to say I just wasn't paying attention. Also - I had no reason to question it - I certainly question conclusions made from documents but I wouldn't think that I should have to question whether the documents that a book uses for its primary premise even exist. Far from giving Blevins a hard time, I was more than willing to give him the benefit of that doubt that he had the proof that he references. So that's how it was.... until I found out that the premise that Kenny had all this money in his bank accounts with no assets other than the Buckley Road property was false and misleading. - for whatever reason - whether sloppy research, inadequate knowledge or intentional mislead. The rest of the story: The whole reason that this came up now is because I was looking around for DB stuff and found out about the property that KC bought in 1961 and sold in 92. I was astounded that this had never been acknowledged by anyone as being of consequence. Everything was always about the cash and coins, etc he had at his death with oblique references made to property and timber land that was bought AFTER the hijacking (oh yeah, and said reference included that the land sold was probably bought with money from the hijacking). Now we know that is so much bs. So I decided to look at Blevins report and there I saw the so-called adjoining property deed that Blevins says was bought for $10.00. Blevins had also made posts about this in the past, but I assumed that he knew what he was talking about - it is possible to have a quit claim for 10.00 or for love and affection, etc. I had no idea that he was basing this on the amount written on the warranty deed. So when I bring it up that this is likely inaccurate based on the tax stamp and that the $10.00 is just a "stand-in" for the real amount. (you can generally get an idea of the amount by looking at the tax stamp), all of a sudden it's like attack the questioner. So I think - jeez - maybe he just didn't know how to read the property deed. Maybe this whole KC thing paying cash is based on someone mis-reading the documents. WHen I bring this up Blevins gets defensive and tries to re-route the conversation and make me out to be the bad guy instead of just saying - I don't know. For pity's sake - he wrote the book. He lives in the general area - This stuff is public record - take a trip to the courthouse or wherever they keep archived property records and check on something you are writing about. Honestly I think he just doesn't know. No shame in that. Some folks on here just tend to take credit for knowing more than they do. Maybe just get caught up in the telling. Or maybe that's human nature. We all do it at times. Whatever - regardless - if you're going to write a book and tout all this stuff as gospel and that all this is based on documentation that you own (need I show you the posts) -- then you should be able to produce the goods. Otherwise just say that you don't know and you were just going on what others told you. There's no shame in that but you should acknowledge this is hearsay rather than writing as if you have seen the documents. JUST ONE MORE THING...as a necessary clarification of the data. The deed that he has attached that he says is the adjoining lot is not the adjoining lot anyway. The deed posted is the initial deed for the property that was later deeded to Robin Powell, on Kenny's death. And, the initial deed states that the sale is subject to a mortgage or promissory note being paid by Kenny Christiansen. And yes, further evidence of this is the amount on the tax stamp that would correspond to sales price of approx 14,000. So again I ask - has anyone seen the proof that KC paid off this mortgage with cash? There should be a record of this also at the courthouse. Note: Another reason this thing has been so difficult to follow. Geoff Gray says 14000, and that the adjoining property costs another 1500. Blevins puts down the sale of the inital property at 16500 and the adjoining property at 10.00. Which just further confuses the issue since the deed posted didn't jive with the information. I'm done with the Blevins part of this. I just wanted to set the record straight on the data. Like I said I want this to be about the data and not the person. Sometimes, I'll admit, it's hard to separate the two. eta (as if this isn't long enough already Yes, if Geoff Gray doesn't have proof then he shoudn't be writing it as a given either. -- But then he's also not the one posting all of this stuff on this forum. Which is where we discuss this stuff. And - I'm also not saying the proof that Kenny paid out a lot of cash in 71, 72 isn't out there - it may very well be - just that it hasn't been produced to my knowledge. And now that there are questions, seems like there is no rational reason not to produce it esp since it was a major premise of why KC was even considered in the first place. Likewise, no signed affidavits from an auditor or anyone else certify RMB's financial claims for KC. This was brought up before and RMB side-stepped it. Similarly, RMB has produced no signed affidavit from any of his witnesses saying they think KC was DB Cooper and why, or so much as a signed statement-in-agreement that they confirm what RMB says any witness said! The whole thing rests on RMB alone. The same applies to JO, Knoss, etal ...