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Like the NFL announcer says these days: 'Come ON, Man!' Has anyone around this town even RESEARCHED out what Marla has actually said? Am I the only one here that did that? Georger hasn't a clue what he's talking about when he speaks about how I checked Marla's story. For one thing, she's changed it a few times, remember? Like when she shifted the dropzone from Sisters up to the Tena Bar area when someone reminded her about the money... Like when she changed the car the men used from an MG to a truck when reminded there is often snow on Washington State Forest Service roads in November... Like when reminded that the Dan Cooper comics were mostly available in Belgium, France, and limited areas of Eastern Canada...she suggested LD drove his MG up to Canada to buy them. Shall I go on? There are many facets to this tale and I kept good notes. I also downloaded every single video and news article she did with the media and examined them all. She shifted her story to fit the known details of the crime when either REMINDED of those details, or when it suited her. Marla's only goal from the start was not the truth, but a book contract from a major publisher. The truth was always secondary. Face it, if you bought into the Marla Fable, you have the consolation of knowing that the Seattle FBI did the same thing. So this could mean you are no dumber than they are. And I didn't just blow Marla's story off the minute I heard it, either. She could have been onto something, how would I know? But her story just doesn't wash, and nobody that was there will support it. Not mother, not sister, nor brother. NONE of them. Figure it out, super-sleuths. Her brother even made a smart-ass comment about it on Marla's own Facebook page. And why doesn't her mother volunteer anything? Mother was there for Thanksgiving. Mother would have seen the comics pinned to LD's temporary bedroom wall. Nothing. Mother said once: 'Oh, I thought years later LD might be Cooper...' That's it. My answer: For what reason? Did you see something that weekend? Do you know something? But like Sgt. Schultz in Hogan's Heroes...she knows nothing. And ask yourself why Marla's dad would keep a secret like that from his own wife for all those years? Answer: He wouldn't have. Why doesn't MOTHER remember LD and Dewey coming back to the house with LD injured, blood all over his shirt. How come SHE didn't see those comics on LD's wall? Or anyone else? And who told you that LD and Dewey didn't stay for dinner? Marla's previous story was that LD returned on Thanksgiving morning...and left the NEXT DAY. That means he was there for dinner. I have made the analogy like this: How come no one noticed he was bleeding all over his turkey and gravy that evening? Geez, Louise....and people come down on me and call ME a liar. What a joke. Maybe I should attach her Facebook posts again, or link the ten question interview I did with her. One thing I did find consistent in Marla was in the articles that appeared in the media. They were consistently different in each version of the story. Update: At the last Ariel celebration, some members of Oregon Kick Ass History were in attendance, including their head honcho Doug Kenck-Crispin. Crispin says they invited Marla to speak because she is a good draw, but that no one with that organization believes her story. He added that Marla has backed away from some of her previous claims. What does this tell you? It tells me she just wasn't being truthful, or she wouldn't have felt obligated to back away. Why do "long ears" call "short ears" foreigners and liars on this forum? Next thing you know an extraterrestrial with no ears at all, will come along ... with Cooper frozen in his cargo vessel currently orbiting Uranus! Play it again Sam.

Boy are you in for a shocktoid!

WE are knee-deep in claims and people's smartass remarks. The preponderance of that over anything of any real substance tells the story... just a continuation of where things have been for years. Do you see anything worth discussing in the WHS notes just shared - ? -------------------------------------------------------- Hello Muddah - Hello Faddah - Here I am at ...

Really? Are you sure you have the Mayfield call time right G? My recollection is that he called H after Cooper's presumed jump time, not while he was in the 727. Physics is suspended on every jump, at least it appears that way to a jumper. Freefall makes it seem like gravity has disappeared, at least for a minute or so. I've even had it happen inside the cabin when Mike Mullins decided to give us a NASA style zoom climb and pushover in his specially modified "rocketship" King Air. I was floating free, weightless, pushing myself from one side of the cabin to the other suspended in mid air. All that fun and an exit far above 20,000 ft for $48. Such a deal Has anyone heard from Farflung? Is he OK? I hope Sluggo gets to read the WSHS docs posted yesterday. He'd love that stuff. 377 I hope the Four Clydesdales get to read the WSHS docs posted yesterday. They would love that stuff.

Both Bruce and Blevins have offered free copies of their books to forum readers. I commend them for their generousity. Mayfield just doesnt fit the DBC description but what a great suspect otherwise. Convicted felon, pilot, national champ skydiver, rigger, etc etc. Mayfield was apparently a very callous guy too, witness the deplorable number of deaths attributed to his unsafe DZ operations. Mayfield's "it aint me" phone call to Himmelsbach right in the midst of the crime always struck me as odd and kinda contrived. But... he just doesnt look at all like the Cooper described by witnesses. 377 Teddy's call to H ? Had H already pegged Teddy somehow? Dysfunction all the way around. Why would someone brag before the horse had even left the start line? Country Club Cops? Blevins make believes? It's almost snobbery! Myers-Dvorak exploited that weakness.(Stage-I Blevinsism) Meanwhile Robert99 is looking at those notes with a fine tooth comb ... while you are here trading gossips. Teddy could still be the guy. Remember, physics is suspended in the cabins of aircrafts. Say Blevins, Myers, Dvorak, Weber, JT and you! Happy Halloweiner.

You must have missed this part in the post you quoted... ***'The exhibition will be on display through January 5, 2014 in Tacoma...'

Airstream, my ass! It's a "stream of hot air"!

What is 'creepy' is some 'schmulie' using Marla to discredit, trying to build his own reputation as some kind of super-sleuth ... when his own story is a bucket of made up stuff, outright fabrications, and such. That theory says that a train wreck can only be solved by another train wreck! And train wrecks are "all good"! ? That is sick.

when will this exhibit close? guess I can go see if there is an advertised date.

These questions will undoubtably be answered over the next few months. I knew that after I released the report on Christiansen, someone, somewhere, at some point...was going to step forward and provide professional assistance. That is what is going on now. So I will leave it up to them. I still say that for now, you should try contacting Geoff Gray and get his opinion. No matter how you cut it, he was the first to claim some of these things on Christiansen. Most of my work has been with the people Christiansen knew, not his transactions, with the exception of the cash loan to Dawn Andrusko. So - in other words - you have no problem with making claims and writing books, without verifying your claims? While also burning up the airwaves castigating others with demands for proof from others! What kind of clueless individual does that - !? Welcome to Cooperland. You are now a full-fledged dues paid member, FOR LIFE! Bernie Geestman and "That Woman" will send you your membership card. Welcome to Cooper Wage Earner Sheeple Anonymous - we hope you get clean.

Page reference, please. I see a woman who doesn't want to believe her friend Kenny was involved and to protect him would point to her husband. I don't see anything definitive. That is a story that has also had subtle changes to it over several years. Or maybe Bernie was the hijacker.

lol...I hope something is going on cause it's getting like a hamster's wheel in here. I have nothing against Blevins and nothing against Kenny being the hijacker if it was proven - they just lost me over the description. I think that the witnesses, esp Tina was in a good position to get the particulars -- and remember, much of the description from the flight attendant came while the hijacker was still on the plane and I think she would have been able to get a good read on his height in relation to her own. Still i keep an open mind. Which is getting harder now that we find a lot things that were written are either just wrong or they are lies. Kinda like when Margie Geestman was called a liar by RobertmBlevins. Of course, now she must be telling the truth. This saga can get downright confusin. You know, the bad thing about an internet forum is that you can go back and find old posts where people said exactly what they now say they never said. Internet forum = bullshit detector, big time. As for Duane - well you know I'm not convinced about him either, but I keep an open mind about him too. Unfortunately all of you guys lack any real proof, and some of you don't even meet the bare minimum. But I will say, for you, that what you lack in real evidence, you make up for in sheer perseverance. perseverance = obsessive compulsive {with nothin better to do!} It reached the point of diminishing returns 3 years ago! Some here should receive an award for PATIENCE!

Page reference, please. I see a woman who doesn't want to believe her friend Kenny was involved and to protect him would point to her husband. I don't see anything definitive. I predict the JANET STORY will replace the BLEVINS STORY ... Interest in Blevins and his claims will fade into the mist. ------------------------ sooner or later wage earner sheeple have to wonder why Blevins persists with this 3-yrear old billion times repeated - fantasy!

Robert says: I was very polite in interviews. The only person I ever remotely 'demeaned' was Bernie Geestman. And that's only because he lied repeatedly to both me and others, and attempted a bit of witness-tampering with his own sister. Robert says: Under a tent would be better, but next time I'll go to Eastern Washington, where there is less fog and less rain this time of year. Robert says: I am not a mental case. My shrink hasn't had to have me re-committed involuntarily for months now. And the voices are WAY down. (*laughs*) That was a joke, of course. National Public Radio is going to do a bit of fact-checking on their own. Why don't we wait and see if they can discover anything beyond the material I already sent to them. I could very well be wrong on Christiansen, you know. Have hope. Robert says: Well, they have a case agent assigned to Cooper. I'll agree they haven't done much on that since they got burned by the Marla Fable. (See cartoons) As far as 'digging a grave' regarding Christiansen, I never said I was sure he was Cooper. I said I suspected he was, and that is very true. Time for someone else to go out there and find out. I think chances are good that they will either eliminate Kenny once and for all...or find out the truth for sure. This works for me. I have nothing to hide. Funny thing how some Cooperland folks really go off the handle when a legit media entity decides to check on someone OTHER than their pet suspect. Big fear or something. (*OMG...what if I'm WRONG? What if I wasted my time for years?*) This is funny indeed, and differs ME from some of YOU. See...I'm not afraid to turn outside sources loose and face the truth, even if things don't go my way. That's why I said (regarding Christiansen) that only the truth matters. So...maybe someone will find out what that truth IS. I have called out a couple of people on their suspects, yes. One was Galen Cook, but only after he promoted the Janet Fable and swallowed her 'Man in Black Threatened Me' reference. The other was Marla Cooper, whom I gave a fair chance to support her story, (told her that since other family members were in attendance that Thanksgiving, that THEY should go public hand-in-hand with her). She refused to do that, they weren't going to ANYWAY, and then I interviewed her for Newsvine and found even MORE holes in her story. So when I call out suspects, I do it for cause, not because of Kenny, but based on what the promoter is saying about their suspect. Simple question - What does MARLA have to do with the case of one ROBERTMBLEVINS ESQ. against Kenny Christiansen? How does attacking Marla over and over prove that KC had Cooper ransom money? How does constantly attacking Marla prove anything you claim about KC? Marla wasn't KC's girlfriend! Marla is irrelevant to your KC theory. Attack "camels" for a change! unless of course yours is an appeal to weak minds to schlep on over to supporting you and KC ... because you have a grudge against "THAT WOMAN" and you cant stand other snake handlers entering the arena you did not invite? You hate Marla and Cook because you cant stand competition! Maybe the competition can't stand YOU! How low will you go to prove beyond any shadow of doubt you are an imposter?

I can't agree with that, Robert. If Kenny didn't surprisingly come into a bunch of money right around the hijacking, why would he be a suspect? Otherwise, you're no different than any other person who with a personal reason pointing them to a particular candidate. No different than Jo. No different than the Foremans. No different than Marla. Wait...I take that back. I reread "Blast" again and there is nothing to indicate that Marg Geestman or Bernie Geestman know anything about the hijacking. I get that Bernie may have been involved in some shady activities, but nothing ever on the scale of air piracy and kidnapping. Jo, the Foremans and Marla all have confessions or contemporaneous memories actually alleging involvement. You throw a lot of information at us in very long posts, but when you boil it all down, it comes down to what appears to be speculation by a few people. That doesn't mean Kenny wasn't the hijacker, it's just thin. There is an old legal adage: The lawyer with the facts on his side, hammers on the facts. The lawyer with the law on his side, hammers on the law. The lawyer with neither the facts or the law on his side, hammers on the table. The long posts appear to be hammering on the table. You are wasting your breath. Mark. Some folks will cling to the lifeboat until it drags them under - never taking the time to see the buoy that is 10 feet away. And if the facts don't fit the story, then they change the story to fit the facts. "The case against Christiansen has minimally to do with the cash". Bull. That was supposed to be the smoking gun - that and the money and coins he left. And now that those myths are busted it's just another story. The documents that we have already show that he did not pay the cash they said he did, and more proof of this is, I'm sure, on the way by people other than Robert. lol...really...the last person that I would trust to vet it now is the one that got it so wrong to start with. I guess we'll never know whether it was just sloppy work, inadequate knowledge base, or a con job - though I suspect the former. Though it might have been a combination of all three. There has been a great deal of false information from Robert over the years about Christiansen, but when called on it, he always says that part was irrelevant. Go figure. No...all the logic and proof won't be good enough because when people are highly vested in something it is very hard to give it up. Even when we know - and they know - they are wrong about some of the stuff. Like you said - doesn't mean Kenny wasn't the hijacker, but all the stuff they have to keep throwing out is making what's left pretty thin. lol...Like I said before - they should have stuck with Kenny's resemblance to the composite. I've always said he is a great match as long as you don't read the fine print in the description. Crap like this happens when you try to get too fancy.

I should copyright that line.

Registered: Aug 1, 2010 Posts: 4189 Oct 20, 2013, 10:17 PM Post #47657 of 47699 (878 views) Shortcut I don't recall making any protests. I do recall encouraging others to research out the property records as I am doing now. Off the air for a while at Dropzone. No big deal. I knew this was coming today due to circumstances (it's been more or less requested of me) and I'm okay with it. I will drop by from time to time to check posts, but if you have a question or need a comment from me on something Cooper, you will have to either email or PM me until further notice. Email is better. I wish the best to all Cooper Fans. Exit, stage right. EDIT: I look all white, but my dad was black. Since this is my last post for some time to come and I'm sure I will miss the great interaction I've had with people on this thread, I wanted to leave you with one of my fave videos from Monterey Pop. Which only goes to show how old-fashioned I am. This is the other. It's all good. Remember: Only the truth matters, no matter what that truth is. Everything else is bullshit.

Your "opinion" has been noted. (a billion times) Likewise your twisting of what I said. Also noted. You can keep your swamp land. Swampland is your area ... and the arena you have carved out in "your Cooperland". Why are you so upset!? Aren't you here to learn something bout the DB Cooper case? Or did you just come here to tell us and the world (your 'wage earner sheeple') "how it is and how it was"? If you shut up long enough, people might tell you! Nobody owes you anything. You're the guy who wrote the book The True Story of D.B. Cooper. Remember?

Right. Sure she does. (*Just go along with him. To do otherwise could be dangerous.*) Yes. I REALLY believe that Janet (no last name provided) actually saw Cooper standing on the airstairs of the plane at approximately 10K feet in the Vancouver area the night of the hijacking, which is several thousand feet ABOVE the cloud cover...and that she saw him tossing flares off the airstairs. And that two weeks after she wrote the Portland FBI about it, the Men in Black appeared at her door and told her to BACK OFF. Or maybe not. You really BELIEVE that story? It's been verified you say? Man, are you gullible or what? I thought you went to college and stuff. (*laughs*) If you do believe that story, I have some beachfront property in Kansas you might be interested in. Cheap. Good interest rate, I promise. Forget the smiley face. You claimed there was verification on the Janet Fable and that she has credibility. Based on WHAT? (Hope you don't mind me asking, since she and Galen Cook's story contains more holes than a ten-pound block of Swiss cheese with a dozen rats knawing at it...) What? Did I break your concentration there, as Samuel L. Jackson said in Pulp Fiction? I hope not. And that offer on the beachfront property in Kansas still holds.

Right. Sure she does. (*Just go along with him. To do otherwise could be dangerous.*) Yes. I REALLY believe that Janet (no last name provided) actually saw Cooper standing on the airstairs of the plane at approximately 10K feet in the Vancouver area the night of the hijacking, which is several thousand feet ABOVE the cloud cover...and that she saw him tossing flares off the airstairs. And that two weeks after she wrote the Portland FBI about it, the Men in Black appeared at her door and told her to BACK OFF. Or maybe not. You really BELIEVE that story? It's been verified you say? Man, are you gullible or what? I thought you went to college and stuff. (*laughs*) If you do believe that story, I have some beachfront property in Kansas you might be interested in. Cheap. Good interest rate, I promise.

Oh I think I will pass it by ... I read nonfiction. Good luck in the Hamma Hamma Hamma with Blevins.

I dont bet ... sorry. I dont have to! Galen pre-pays his bets! Unlike you he doesnt use CREDIT! Just a fact - Heres another FACT! Doncha think this guy looks like Keny and Cooper? I don't know. Your images aren't as interesting as Farflung's were. I don't use credit, I'm a debit kind of guy, which costs me less. Don't you just HATE it when I respond to your off-the-wall comments with a reality-based question? Ask Galen Cook why he uses proxies to post, rather than manning up and providing his 'new revelations' himself? Is he still backing the Janet Fable? That was a good one... A laugh a minute, you are. You are such a smarmy makebelieve kinda guy - NEWSFLASH! There is (always was) documentation for the Janet sighting. Read that again, MakeBelieve. Read it again, Makebelieve. Have a nice life in the Hamma Hamma Hamma Ozone. High level documentation! Maybe you can get a copy from the Palmer Family! Have you talked to Theo lately? I have. Good night Irene Makebelieve. Post more made up fabrications. I love reading your shit. Janet has more credibility than you will ever have.

Blevins your "thoughts" never work out - must be something wrongh with your MOTIVATIONS? I dont bet ... sorry. I dont have to! Galen pre-pays his bets! Unlike you he doesnt use CREDIT! Just a fact - Heres another FACT! Doncha think this guy looks like Keny and Cooper?

Tsk, tsk, Sail.. Chronic boredom is not my only reason for wanting more precise information on Sheridan, and my lack of "wow" when I see his pix compared to Composte A or B. Enjoy da sun in Cabo. I'm looking to warm up and dry out too, soon. Hmm...warm up? You must be planning a vacation. This is Seattle, my friend...and it's almost November. You live here, so you know what THAT means. Cold rain and misery for the next few months. Sheridan was on the internet a couple of years back more than he is now. I remember dropping by (not sure which) his Facebook or Twitter profile and on one of them he made a little joke in his profile about once being a suspect in the Cooper hijacking. Can't find it now, I should have taken a screenshot I guess. The point is I don't think he would really do that if he WERE the hijacker. The case is still open. I remember it striking a chord with me when I saw that, though. His personality and life history also don't lend themselves well to him threatening peoples' lives with a bomb simply to get money. I guess he deserves to be on the suspect list, but there are many more things about his life that point AWAY from him being a hijacker than the ones that point TOWARD him, in my humble opinion. Some of these things include his civil-rights activism history, his 700+ page anti-Vietnam War book, his running for the school board in his hometown, his extensive experience in teaching, and a great many other things. I think if he needed money, he would just get a job. A great many people have made much of the FBI's investigation of him, but that came up zero. How do you know! ? More Blevination from the "Circle of Trust". ? Heeeez Baaaaaaaack. (Galen wins the bet!) With more borrowed and made up material. This guy could be a pulp fiction writer! Maybe he can get a job with a "circle of trust" that writes for the CIA. Naaaaaaaaaaw - he's too old! The Cooper World Government Gong Show? - run from Cooperland uber alles - they could sell little uniforms on this website! (baseball hat) get your photo standing next to a Pirate. all the kids have em'.

That would be interesting - keep plugging away! Have fun on the vacation.