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Have you ever noticed how people with compulsive-addiction often redirect and sidetrack discussions? Its a classic symptom. I must run - cant chat. My ant farm is on fire! Only heroic measures will save it .... like entering the Ititerod. Or maybe writing a book about DB Ititerod with liars and Clydesdales and local beauty queens sold to Hollywood ... you know what I mean ? Maybe the Palmer family knows something about Keny's house?

Document doesn't say he SOLD it for ten dollars. Says he BOUGHT it for ten dollars and 'other considerations'. That was the lot adjoining the house. And I never considered you a Cooper Nut. Document attached. Side Note: Helen Jones testified that the same people who sold Kenny the adjoining lot were also the same people who sold him the house. As you know, I am waiting for the comparison documents from either/both Geoff Gray and Skipp Porteous on the original house sale. I will compare what they submit to what I have now. Will post when they arrive. Really though...this house-for-cash question has been going since 2007, and forwarded originally by Geoff Gray, both in his book and in his NYM article. And it's been six years before anyone here thinks to ask him HOW he knows? Now they want ME to provide? It's laughable. But I will do it anyway, since all the serious Cooper investigators around here seem to have forgotten one of the main points that made Christiansen a suspect in the first place...and still haven't tried asking the original source. I didn't really read the document. sold/bought still the samething. that's not what the actual cost was. I also noticed the document is no longer on your site? I only seen where you put in black lettering on the photo $10 for the lot etc. I really don't care about the fact of the cash deal. others were asking for documentation. just present it. no need for page after page of battle. what it boils down to Robert is the fact of you and only you until Paul came along have been trying to convince everyone KC was Cooper. I don't think Gray would appreciate being flooded with questions asking about KC. if you are lacking certain things, just say it. it's much better that way. Hey...sometimes I don't like being flooded with questions, either. I never claimed KC was Cooper, not for sure. I've said many times I just don't know. I'm going to tell you upfront why some of this KC stuff is mixed up, and how I tried to fix it. Skipp Porteous made a decision a few years back to cut Geoff Gray out of the information loop on Christiansen. And Porteous never told me about this decision. Later, I told him it was a mistake to do that. While I was driving all over the NW interviewing people like Jones, the Geestmans' and Dawn Andrusko, I was also trying to figure out how to contact Geoff Gray. But at that time he had no email contacts on his NYM articles and no book website. I guess Porteous had it figured we were going to discover the truth on KC first and he wanted to beat Geoff Gray to the punch. This was a mistake on his part, and he never told me he was going this route until both books came out. (Blast and Skyjack) So the whole situation was screwed up. I couldn't even ask Gray questions during the time I was interviewing witnesses, and I REALLY wanted to do that. I WANTED to keep him updated. But I couldn't because I couldn't figure out how to contact him. (*insert string of swear words HERE*) Look...everything in the KC report is as accurate as I can make it. Part of the frickin' problem is that Gray had no clue that I was interviewing witnesses. This is why his book is incomplete on Christiansen. I told Gray once: "It's too bad we didn't check these people out together..." because the whole investigation into KC would have been much more comprehensive. I'm not an investigator. I'm basically a book editor. And it's not my fault that Geestman decided to go the Liar Route on me and everyone else who was checking out KC. I mean WTF was I supposed to do? I get asked to go out and interview these people. And what the heck do they start doing? Instead of throwing me off their front porches, or laughing me off...they start pointing to each other as being involved in the frickin' Cooper hijacking! It was ridiculous, and I never expected that. Innocent folks do NOT do that, in my opinion. Geestman points to his ex-wife first. Then Geestman's sister tells me she suspected KC from the start, and ADMITS to the loan! I get up to Twisp, and Geestman's own wife says HE disappeared over the week of the crime and that he was involved in the hijacking! You had to be there. Then...after five interviews of denials on Kenny, Margie Geestman finally admits that it WAS Kenny who vanished that week with her husband, not someone else. Helen Jones and her daughter tell me the same thing...along with the fact that Kenny smoked Raleigh cigarettes. Geestman's lies start stacking up and then he tries to squash his own sister's testimony, which she refuses to do. Whatever. My gut tells me that Bernie and Margie Geestman know exactly whether KC was the hijacker, and whether Bernie was his guy on the ground. But the only way to prove any of this now is to get them up to the Seattle FBI offices and QUESTION them. Enough has been presented that if all this shit had come out in 1972, the FBI would have hauled all their asses in for some interviews. And then people like Kenny would have to explain HOW he managed to buy a house for cash and loan Geestman's sister five grand just a few months after the hijacking. And where the hell those men were when they were supposed to be eating Thanksgiving at the Jones place. I'm going to present the available evidence soon on the cash purchase of the Bonney Lake house. But you know what? It doesn't matter a whit. What really needs to happen is for the Seattle FBI to bring in Jones, her daughter, Bernie and Margie Geestman, and Dawn Andrusko (and family) and get to the bottom of things once and for all. All the money spending in the world after the hijacking will not prove KC was the hijacker. But I think the FBI should ask Mr Geestman WHY he endorsed Christiansen as being Cooper on television when he knew perfectly well he was WITH Christiansen over the week of the hijacking. That statement does not make sense, and at the time he made it, he was not aware that witnesses had already placed him with Kenny. He did not know that Jones had been interviewed. Jones was asked to appear on Decoded by producer Pete Berg. She told him no. Said she was afraid of Geestman. These are not 'made up' things. They happened. But I'm not the FBI, so the truth on KC will probably never be known once Margie and Bernie Geestman pass away. I've accepted that fact because I know that if KC was Cooper, that only the Geestmans' know for sure. Play it again Sam. Isnt it true that Obssessive - compulsive - addicted personalities will go on forever inventing and sidestepping ... ??? It has nothing to do with research or having a factual case. It has to do with a specific personality dissorder that uses the Cooperphelia to get their jollies ? Now if people enjoy watching craxy people being crazy ---- well then I guess that can keep the addicted going on their shared addiction ? [Thats a question]. Under that regime you can make up 200,000 lies and type on the internet forever, free. There does arrive a point where the audience has left! But THAT doesn't deter the trully addicted ? They just go on alone... claiming they have lots of company? The whole thing is a LIE and a compulsive-addiction. ? Play it again Sam. You could try: Kenny & Geestman were paid by NWA to pretend they were the hijackers, by preteding they were not! And Robt M Blevins decoded it all!

GC, The property from 1961 is in Bonney Lake, but it is not 18406 Old Buckley Hwy. This was at least three lots of undeveloped land that he held on to for years and sold in 1992 for a large profit. This could easily account for the money in his bank accounts at his death. Blev also contended KC had $200,000 in stamps and coins. Blev could never account for that. Just stated $200,000 assessed value, whatever that means, without any regard for the basis of that assessment (or estimate) or who made that valuation. Wholesale value? Retail value? Catalog value ? Specific items in the inventory? Just $200,000 which Blev used to embellish his claim 'KC had more assets than earnings over t-amount of time'. How could anyone with a modest income have assembled such a valuable collection! ... in addition to buying property. So in addition to land we also have to account for his very valuable stamp and coin collection! .

You are correct. But he paid off the note in 1972. I wonder how he managed that? It's a mystery for sure. Blevins, If you have read at least some of the posts on this thread, then you surely know that airline cockpit and cabin crews are only permitted to fly a certain number of hours each month. In the post WW2 era, it was about 80 hours per month. For personnel working long haul international routes, such as KC was doing, their permissible flight time could easily be met in 10 to 14 days. This means that KC probably had 2 or 2.5 weeks of time away from NWA each month to pursue other money making ventures. Who knows what KC was doing during his free time from NWA? But he could have been in Las Vegas gambling, working on a fishing boat, smuggling people from south of the border, or taking care of his coin collection (or whatever it was) and making wise investments. Do you have copies of KC's income tax returns for the entire period of time that you are talking about? If you claim you do, then explain why he kept copies of his tax returns for 30+ years, which is about 10 times the recommended time to keep those returns. You simply have not produced anything of significance to support your claim that KC's money came from the hijacking. Robert99 One guess is he was working with Geestman for Foss tugs or something like that - off the books. Thus the concern for Geestman not talking. Very likely KC did not have the excess funds at any time, Blevins claims he did, but has always failed to document! Blevins has never proved his contention KC had extra money. Blevins failure and even open resistence to account for issues like this, undermines his whole research. These issues have been raised countless times here specifically, without any good response and it has seemed rather obvious to me for years Blevins has none of the proofs he claims to have but will not share ... becaue Cooperland is untrustworthy? Blevins simply made it all up! What is absolutely irrevocably clear, is that Blevins' socalled 'research' is a made up job (put up job). A quilt of rumors and innuendo sprinkled with a few factoids which don't line up under examination - which has been the hallmark of Blevins' everything since he joined this thread. For Blevins to trump that by telling anyone to "email Geoff Gray to find out!" ... or "I cant reveal the truth because Cooperland is full of vampires" .... has to tell anyone reading this thread that Blevins was 100% serious when he told Farflung 'optical physics is different in the cabins of airplanes'! Blevins may not actually believe that, but he doesn't mind using that ploy regardless of the expense to others - Blevins is all about Blevins and nothing else! It is also 100% clear he dsoesn't mind throwing the Palmer family under the bus .. to achieve his personal self gratification. Blevins' self gratification at anyone's expense, may be all his adventure in the DB Cooper story is about. (Ive thought that for three long years!). It's not personal. It's just diagnostic!

I've tried to read your stuff, but frankly, I have to skip over your posts now. Trying to read them makes me dizzy. I'm not trying to be mean, but if you would use some basic punctuation, like periods and such, it would be so much easier to read. Plus, to be honest, the lack of readability makes it hard to take you seriously. As one who has purchased or read nearly all of what I consider to be legitimate books about the Cooper case (yeah I'm a sucker) I would never purchase your book if written in the same style. In responses to your posts, I've already mentioned some problems with your handwriting analysis, and you've never answered the questions about the ticket agent's handwriting samples (even though it is highly doubtful that Dan Cooper wrote his own name on the ticket), or the DNA, or other questions asked on here. Letters to FBI people, unfortunately, don't prove a whole lot. Many of your posts allude to facts? that just aren't even close. If Eng or other officials have corroborated your solving of the case, then prove that. Better yet, when are we going to hear this from them? According to you, it's been almost 4 months, right? I guess my point is if you want honest discourse you have to do the give and take thing. If you just want to sell a book, good luck. Otherwise, I did enjoy your videos that I watched showing the landscape of the area. You ought to do more of those.

Robert -- this is exactly Smokin99's point. There is no evidence that Kenny was the hijacker, either. And, even you would have to admit that theory is a far bigger stretch. we just got bake from cooper symposium.. and the reno letter is legit the unaltered or non cryptic letters match am going to start to decipher the abnormal cryptic messages at 1200 tonight so we all will have a fair chance good luck the playboy envelope was right next to it and we had my book and it matched i truly believe no one will ever be able to show me a sample of kc block lettering that does not match i begged curtis to tell me i was wrong and he said i cant you have don it notice all of kc sentences slowly slant up ward if you look at the flight log you will see the d far left about 3 line from bottom 1958 1971 1974 all related to db cooper or kc and all envelopes to fbi and news papers now the reno letter the reno letter showed really be good i can hardly wait knowing its from kc it should fast and easy Barada nikto, Gort.

Robert -- this is exactly Smokin99's point. There is no evidence that Kenny was the hijacker, either. And, even you would have to admit that theory is a far bigger stretch. Blevins will have his way with anyone willing to listen. Services are held daily at Dropzone.com - 24/7. Some see it as a joke, some as scorolous, some as funny, some as personal attacks against Blevins, some as brilliant, some as whimsical, some as wimpy, some as crass and disgusting ... Services are held daily at Dropzone.com - 24/7, in any event. Worship at the Cooper expert of your choice.

On and off like a light switch. Attack - withdraw. Claim - disclaim. I would rather watch paint dry. This is some personal adventure you are on. Probably like being lost for 30 days in the wilderness, or your defiant swiming in ocean currents story .... which no one in their right mind would do in the first place!

I still say there is a reasonable alternative for Kenny having money - and that is directly tied to his overseas flights, being involved with customs money, and his collections. Kenny was also able to buy property in the 60s - land that he held on to while supposedly struggling and digging ditches - and later sold for a whole lot of profit in 92. Which might explain his bank accounts and such. Then - (See attachment) Now - (click on this link) I don't know why...and I'm not just picking on Blevins -- but it seems like folks leave out a lot of inconvenient information when they want their guy to be Cooper.

I still say there is a reasonable alternative for Kenny having money - and that is directly tied to his overseas flights, being involved with customs money, and his collections. Kenny was also able to buy property in the 60s - land that he held on to while supposedly struggling and digging ditches - and later sold for a whole lot of profit in 92. Which might explain his bank accounts and such. Then - (See attachment) Now - (click on this link) I don't know why...and I'm not just picking on Blevins -- but it seems like folks leave out a lot of inconvenient information when they want their guy to be Cooper.

If you don't like the government shutdown, you should contact your Congressman. Ours here is a Republican who had to be shamed first by Maria Cantwell and Patty Murray to appear at the Howard Hanson Dam to support financing repairs to the dam, which was in danger of wiping out everyone's homes in his own district. He didn't support funding those repairs at first. When I saw him at Auburn Days 2012, I asked him about it. He had no answer. If our two Senators hadn't dropped the pressure on him and forced him to show up to a press conference at the dam, there was a good chance Auburn would have ended up under twenty feet of water. This is what Republicans do lately. They support anything that either trashes the President, or screws the country. They care nothing about how their actions affect regular folks. Which is why I vote Democratic these days. (*laughs*) Hate me for that if you wish, but you know...it's like America and stuff.

JO REPLIES? Puyallup in 1971? What are the connections? Remember Gilliam lived in PUYALLUP and Duane had connections to his wife's family. The connections stemmed in CA. SUDDENLY you have a PUYALLUP in your story! You do KNOW who Gilliam was? That is the man who received a phone call prior to the skyjacking and Gilliam felt he had inadvertently provide Cooper with the information he needed to make sucessful jump from the 727! Wonder WHY so many people borrow from the Weber Story? Is the RESEARCH I have done so important all other COOPER SEARCHERS eventually jump on the WAGON I have been pulling for 18 yrs? What am I - A DAMN MULE! Or the DITCH DIGGER? Everything I have worked on and introduced to the public or the thread has been "jumped" on by others who are just looking for a good story. They incorporate enough of my material so their story is believable, but why hitch rides on the Weber Story? Perhaps, the story Duane told his wife and which she has spent the last 18 yrs trying to piece together is the only story that ACTUALLY tells anything remotely close to the truths in the case? What CONNECTIONS did KC/Geestman have to Puyallup - CONNECTIONS so close they sold their house (cabin) to him. THIS is a simple matter of you BLEVINS contacting property records in Bonneyville and then you get the property ID numbers and then you can do the history. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT - DO IT NOW! TODAY! By the time I got to the county property records and I do not have the necessary information to do so, but you do. There should be a deed recorded &/or a loan on the Bonneyville property from 1971! If that Bonneyville property was ever recorded under the name of Gilliam or Barth or Weber - GO straight to the FBI OFFICE and if they have to push me in a wheel chair and have me doped up for the pain, I will meet you there....don't CALL or email - just take the property records to the FBI and have them call me. If you don't have my phone number - email me and I will send it to you. You have just mentioned something that is recorded legal documents NO ONE can mess with! THIS IS NOT SOMETHING 4 you to PRETEND to investigate! THIS IS the MOST important assignment of YOUR life! I is very important you do this NOW and make it public. Geestman is the right age for Gilliam...how OLD is Geestman now? Is he still alive? The GATES of HELL would open up for the FBI if all of this shit somehow connected together! Frankly I never had any confidence in the story you told about Kenny, but maybe - Geestman did know something. Maybe Geestman was the one with the connection. Can you connect Geestman and Gilliam and Barth - on paper and with documents. NO GAMES! I don't have time for GAMES - it is NOW or NEVER. The only part of your story I ever bought into was the guys going camping that Thanksgiving near Paradise. Duane had pointed out Paradise and a camping area were the Boys used to stay. I have written about that pre-Blevins and pre-Kenny days. I was discussing that with JT in 1997. Of course he is deny it, but even in this thread pre Blevins I did talk about the area. Had not a clue what I was talking about - just recited the things Duane made mention of on that trip in 1979. Basically when you talked about Paradise park - I thought you had been chatting with JT. I am positive it can be verified in writing that I had mention the Paradise area and an area West of there along the coast line. CLUES: What if Geestman, Kenny, Gilliam and Weber were all connected by a thin thread? That thread being that Gilliam. Gilliam and another man by the name of BARTH (out of CA) worked with Wayward young men - programs that spawned out of CA and the out of McNeil. Programs were instituted because of the over population of the prison in the mid 40's. They formed several camps and more than was originally believed. If Kenny knew Gilliam or Barth - he may have tried to follow their example by helping wayward young men who had lost their way. Maybe that was the condition of his getting the Bonneyville - property to provide shelter. NOW most of this is just guessing and connecting DOTS. I am sure someone will find proof none to the DAMN dots connect. I do NOT believe Barth or Gilliam had any knowledge of this caper or who did it. Perhaps Cooper was bitter and trying to prove something in 1971 or desperate. Someone took the knowledge they had of the area and actually pull this damn thing off. Was in ONE man or was it more than one man? Or where all of the guys part of a GROUP who did some kind of covert work for the government. I can understand if this was true - these GUYS had opportunity and accessibility and knowledge to do this. There are other parts of the story you told I had heard before, but felt I needed to keep my mouth shut - now if those property records come down the way I HOPE they do - I will tell the rest of the story. I attempted to at one time about Paradise, but JT shot me down! Ooops JT keeps coming up - and he was the right age to have been or had knowledge of this group - if indeed such a group did exist or is it only a figment of Jo imagination? Guy I AINT Kiddin! - Blevins JUST might be "ON to something"( a quote from Florence Shaffner) and maybe I was also - but, there was too many missing pieces to the puzzle lost in time and space. If Belvins being the man on the ground (now that JT has been dumped as being in conclusion with the cover up of Cooper) can do his property seaches and come up with a link that was only know to Jo per what Duane said. Maybe - JUST Maybe the government will have to owe up to their mistakes! All it takes to solve this case is documentation the FBI nor anyone else can cover up! It would be a lark if all of these GUYS link together, but I have voiced this before and laughted at. Making a fool out of myself one more time, BUT at this STAGE, I have ZERO to loose. The world thinks JO is crazy delusional and off her rocker. ONLY Jo knows it is the stress of the situation and having to fight the endstage of her life. AT this point I have NOTHING to loose - regardless the system won and it has used up my life. I chose to do this and to fight this battle till the end against this secretive government and their tactics. If the government did NOT have a hand in this - it was a personal agenda of the individual or individuals involved. I would love to talk to Geestman and to confront him with this, but I do not have a phone number and there is NO time for an address. Not unless someone WANTS to send him this posting! Please anyone with a way of contacting Geetman or his family - PLEASE copy this post and send it to them and give them my email address - Homes4ubyjo@aol.com. If you know my phone number you can give it to Geestman and tell him if he calls me I will return the phone call on my nickle. I would suggest you write a routine in Python with all of your 'data', then send it to Geestman and Bevins to evaluate ... ? The FBI may soon require all data (claims) on Cooper candidates to be in a data format. Are you up on your Python?

If you don't like the government shutdown, you should contact your Congressman. Ours here is a Republican who had to be shamed first by Maria Cantwell and Patty Murray to appear at the Howard Hanson Dam to support financing repairs to the dam, which was in danger of wiping out everyone's homes in his own district. He didn't support funding those repairs at first. When I saw him at Auburn Days 2012, I asked him about it. He had no answer. If our two Senators hadn't dropped the pressure on him and forced him to show up to a press conference at the dam, there was a good chance Auburn would have ended up under twenty feet of water. This is what Republicans do lately. They support anything that either trashes the President, or screws the country. They care nothing about how their actions affect regular folks. Which is why I vote Democratic these days. (*laughs*) Hate me for that if you wish, but you know...it's like America and stuff.

If you don't like the government shutdown, you should contact your Congressman. Ours here is a Republican who had to be shamed first by Maria Cantwell and Patty Murray to appear at the Howard Hanson Dam to support financing repairs to the dam, which was in danger of wiping out everyone's homes in his own district. He didn't support funding those repairs at first. When I saw him at Auburn Days 2012, I asked him about it. He had no answer. If our two Senators hadn't dropped the pressure on him and forced him to show up to a press conference at the dam, there was a good chance Auburn would have ended up under twenty feet of water. This is what Republicans do lately. They support anything that either trashes the President, or screws the country. They care nothing about how their actions affect regular folks. Which is why I vote Democratic these days. (*laughs*) Hate me for that if you wish, but you know...it's like America and stuff.

No kidding. I said that when I posted up the map originally. For Gray Cup/Cop: Passengers did not sign or fill out their own airline tickets. Can you imagine the confusion that would ensue? Let's lay out the obvious reasons why airlines don't do this: 1) Some people have sloppy handwriting, which couldn't be read. 2) The ticket agent is responsible for the content of the ticket. 3) Airline passengers come from all over the world. Many do not speak or write English. 4) If a passenger filled out their own tickets, they would have to be coached on several of the entries along the way. How to spell the destination city, for example. Or the price. Or whatever. In short, the whole scenario is ridiculous and even if it were allowed, the record-keeping would soon go to hell. Have you ever picked up your ticket from the counter and the agent says, 'Just fill out the price, where you want to go, and I'll take care of the rest...' (?) Um. Probably not. Gray Cop/Cup says in part: ***'Blevins, do you have a sample yes or no? Did Kenny have any connection to 18409 old buckley hwy before 1971? yes or no ? everyone is watching to see how you respond to these to questions' Sample? Do you mean a HANDWRITING sample or a DNA sample? Handwriting, yes. I have some original copies of letters home by Kenny. DNA sample...not me. FBI has one from Kenny's brother, (taken by Minneapolis agents when they interviewed him) but they haven't done anything with it. Source: Seattle FBI agent Fred Gutt, in phone call, two emails. As far as the Bonney Lake address, the sellers of the home were a Puyallup couple who Bernie Geestman served as Best Man at their wedding. Geestman has gone on record saying he doesn't know how Kenny got the house. I don't believe him. Neither do I believe him when he says he doesn't know the arrangements on how his sister acquired a 5K cash loan from KC only five months after the hijacking. Reason I don't believe him is because his sister says it was her brother who asked Kenny for the money and delivered it to her. No connection before July 1972 exists on Kenny and the Bonney Lake house. Before that, he was living in a small apartment in Sumner, WA. Georger says in part: Whatever. As Jimmy Carter said in the film Used Cars, 'I have heard you...' No you haven't! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ogBOd4Xor4 Quite obviously you haven't! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQmY7vjPZhc I say again: http://www.mrtukie.com/15-hilarious-youtube-videos-you-havent-seen/

I'm far from lazy. Determining motives? It's Investigation 101 stuff. You bet I do. I'm not a Bible beater, but I like this one from the book of Matthew: ***'But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart...' Ah yes, Lay Preacher Billy-Bob Blevins again. Shamah Lakah Gizmo Deus. More to the point, I really dont care what the colour of your socks is! And I seriously doubt anyone else does either. Your old socks and your old horse have nothing to do with the DB Cooper case. Play it again - Sham Wow Bible man.

Blevins, As has been discussed to death here, that map is NOT a "flight map". It is a simple sketch of meteorological information and was probably done by the flight dispatcher or the aircraft navigator or both. KC would not have anything to do with the preparation of that map. Robert99 Honestly Robert, I don't give a shit. I posted the map after questions were raised about whether Kenny Christiansen worked for NWA, and when he did. Of course, the 25-year thank-you-for-your-service letter from the CEO of NWA was kind of a giveaway anyway. The point was that the map had his name on it. In reality, Kenny had worked for NWA for more than 25 years when he got the service letter, but he had quit for a while after his stint on Shemya Island, and they didn't go official on him until he returned to work as a purser in 1951. Funny thing, too. The service letter is dated on the exact day in 1976 when the Statute of Limitations on the hijacker was due to expire. Kenny didn't attend the banquet in Minneapolis with the others, but he did accept the silver bowl and the pin they sent him by mail. I always wondered about that, since the flight to Minneapolis for the banquet would have been free, and his family lived nearby. If Kenny is ever proven to be the hijacker, that letter will become famous. It's the ultimate criminal irony. Being thanked for your service when in reality, you hijacked the airline for $200,000 and got away with it. And I have the original copy. Sounds like you have something valuable! Worth maybe 25 cents ... that would cost you 46c to mail ... and a $5 dollar to email the way you do things! Brilliant Robert! What you need Blevins is to claw your way out of the wilderness and stop the self imposed extreme survival isolation you are so indignently proud of, ... and finally decide on a real occupation... like the rest of the "wage earner sheeple" you belittle due too envy.

Robert says: You are referring to the newspaper article about Margie Geestman. Article shows four DRAFT horses abreast pulling a flat cart with wheels in a parade. I mistakenly thought they were Clydesdales. My bad. They were just big draft horses. When I interviewed her the six times in 2009-10, she was still raising draft horses at the ranch in Twisp, although she was down to just two. ***Iditarod - Robert says: You are referring to Margaret Geestman. This was related to me in an interview with a woman (Faye Hansen) who knew her, but who did not live in the same town. Although Margie has done some amazing things in her life, participation in the Iditarod was NOT one of them. Robert says: True enough. Lesson was: Always tell people where you are planning to go. My first stop on the way home was the nearest McDonald's. Robert says: Inaccurate description. I only presented the evidence. Demjanjuk was already in custody. Robert says: True enough. Thank you for remembering. I made a lot of promises to God, most of which I did keep. Robert says: Yes. She ran out of gas and crashed. Or she landed on Gardner Island. Or the Japanese got her. Take your pick. Chances are one of those answers is correct. I never said I 'knew' what happened to her. TIGHAR handles that stuff. (*laughs*) Robert says: Well, someone sent it. We think it was a family member, or unsolicited. The only people I previously inquired with about it were family members, and the Portland State University. We receive enough Manila envelopes each week to make a big pile on an ordinary-sized coffee table. Robert replies: Of course it would make a good film. IF Kenny were proven to be the hijacker, or anyone else for that matter. You realize of course there have been several television shows and one film (at least) already done on Cooper. Not exactly an original idea. If I were interested in just some movie script on KC, I would have either written it myself (I have screenplay writing experience and Celtx Plus) or I would have sold the rights to the client from Paradigm. As you know, I turned down a modest five-figure offer because they wanted to take serious liberties with the known facts on Christiansen. But if someone legit wanted to do the documentary or a drama based on KC's life...and stuck with the basic facts...I would go along with it. So far, that hasn't happened. So do I. You are grasping at straws in some pathetic attempt to discredit, but you haven't had much luck at that have you? "You are grasping at straws in some pathetic attempt to discredit, but you haven't had much luck at that have you? Crazy" You always go straight to people's motives. As if you knew them. As if you could know them! As if only you can discern them ... What a waste of energy on your part, since you dont really give a shit anyway! Lazy is as Lazy does. 377 appreciates your brilliance - keep it up!

Here's an excellent example someone posted just an hour ago - it reads: "On the government shutdown: This is a risky move by Republicans. If SSN checks, etc quit coming, even delayed for a short time due to political fighting, seniors and the disabled will remember this next election." [RobertMBlevins] Huh? Who also brought up the topic of Beauty Queens? None of us! 4 Clydesdales abreast - Iditarod - Being Lost 30 days and extreme wilderness survival - Claims to have 'nailed a Nazi war criminal' - Being trapped in extreme ocean currents due to poor judgement and had to swim for his life - Knows what happened to Amelia Earhart - Has "reviewed" the Palmer Report. Got the Palmer Report from someone in the Palmer family! - Oh and one more thing: this gay guy Keny Christiansen who you and some guy who invents better egg beaters says is DB Cooper and 'would make a good movie script' - I think I see a pattern there.

SS checks are NOT affected - so you can STOP that scurrilous rumor right now. Your WIC check is affected - PLEASE you & Bruce refrain from bringing your political shit into this forum. ? Fine. Will you please refrain from bringing your personal anti-Blevins shit into this forum as well? We can just make a deal on that. No politics. No personals. At least HERE. And I'd like to see zero additional references by you to Gayla Prociv. She couldn't care less about the Cooper case anyway. I'm attaching a picture. I figure if you are going to talk badly about someone...you should at least know who they are. She's the one with the blonde hair. The other guy is just some nobody she hangs out with sometimes. Huh! ? What Gayla? Gayla who? I didnt say one word about Gayla! You did! Plus a photo You said: If SSN checks, etc quit coming, even delayed for a short time due to political fighting, seniors and the disabled will remember this next election.

SS checks are NOT affected - so you can STOP that scurrilous rumor right now. Your WIC check is affected - PLEASE you & Bruce refrain from bringing your political shit into this forum. ?

You and the Palmer family seem to have a very special relationship - you have been claiming! They even send you FBI documents you then tell us you have shreaded to avoid the FBI visiting your office at AB Books! God only knows why they would chose "you" to do this special favour for when people in academia and the FBI might also like to share in your and the Palmer family's finding fortune? Have you and the Palmer family alerted the FBI to this search, in your behalf? What is the financial arrangement here? Who will own Palmer papers the Palmer family is set to deliver to you? Will you soon "own" the Palmer report? And what do we care about your to publish the autobiography of a 1960's Queen of Golden Age Burlesque. ? This is a DB Cooper forum? Is there a connection between the Palmer papers and Burlesque Queens? Is the Palmer family into Burlesque too, through you and Gayla the former beauty queen? I see possible Anger Management classes in your future. That's strictly an opinion, of course.

You and the Palmer family seem to have a very special relationship - you have been claiming! They even send you FBI documents you then tell us you have shreaded to avoid the FBI visiting your office at AB Books! God only knows why they would chose "you" to do this special favour for when people in academia and the FBI might also like to share in your and the Palmer family's finding fortune? Have you and the Palmer family alerted the FBI to this search, in your behalf? What is the financial arrangement here? Who will own Palmer papers the Palmer family is set to deliver to you? Will you soon "own" the Palmer report? And what do we care about your to publish the autobiography of a 1960's Queen of Golden Age Burlesque. ? This is a DB Cooper forum? Is there a connection between the Palmer papers and Burlesque Queens? Is the Palmer family into Burlesque too, through you and Gayla the former beauty queen?

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