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Everything posted by georger
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well .......... this is a pleasant surprise!
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another Cook yarn
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The whole world knows that! Time to move on.
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DB Cooper RESUSCITATION - POST ULLLLLIS INSANITY: Like cheap suspenders from Malaysia that never worked, the Ulis Insanity appears to be over, and the world is attempting to recover and move on. At least that is the hope of a few that managed to conduct a Cooper Can and survive the Ulllis years, with their jockey straps and their brains still intact! Cooper Con 2024 came and passed. You can reed about it here. The FBI has reopened the DB Cooper case - or not. ? Thanks to Bruce Smith again for keeping the civilized world that still has its sanity, informed! https://themountainnewswa.net/2024/11/27/db-cooper-conference-a-success-as-media-coverage-swirls-over-new-allegations-and-findings/#more-11301
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should the fbi repoen the db cooper case - wowzer! Holy Mohly! Answer Based on recent developments, the FBI may indeed reopen the D.B. Cooper case. A modified parachute discovered on the property of Richard McCoy Jr., a longtime suspect, has sparked renewed interest in the investigation. This parachute, described as "literally one in a billion," along with a skydiving logbook and harness, has been acquired by the FBI. The FBI has shown renewed interest in the case by: Contacting amateur investigator Dan Gryder after he posted videos about his findings Conducting a four-hour search of the McCoy family property with over a dozen agents Taking the parachute, harness, and skydiving logbook into evidence4 While the FBI has not officially confirmed reopening the case, these actions suggest they are seriously considering the new evidenc . The potential link between the parachute and both the D.B. Cooper and Richard McCoy Jr. hijackings could provide a breakthrough in solving this 53-year-old mystery. Given the significance of this new evidence and the public interest in the case, it would be reasonable for the FBI to reopen the investigation to thoroughly examine these new leads and potentially bring closure to one of America's most infamous unsolved crimes. Related What new evidence was found that led the FBI to reopen the case How does the modified parachute connect to Richard McCoy Jr What role did the McCoy family play in the new investigation How significant is the parachute rig discovered in the storage unit - is it the missing DB Cooper chute? What are the main arguments for and against Richard McCoy Jr. being D.B. Cooper How is it possible that McCoy was already investigated by the FBI and Super Sleuths and yet this development walks through the back door. Does attorney Galen Cook have anything to do with this ? https://www.perplexity.ai/search/shuld-the-fbi-repoen-the-db-co-B.9MdY0mS2mfQUagWalDKg
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This is why I watch live sports. It's real ! You can only wait so long for the Promised Land with the latest DB Cooper guru looking for his keys! I expect the Cooper search to now shift to Antarctica and Mars. After a good beginning, maybe even a great beginning, the FBI in its various machinations botched the case. It became a joke. No question about this. Today the FBI seems unable or unwilling to salvage the case and actually work with private investigators and labs; its only option left is to make the next press release. That is absurd and humiliating. This is not just my view! What can be done in an environment like that? Nothing.
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well ... except for a mouse phart by 377 on Shutter's obsolete forum, there is no news from Cooper Con 23. Is Cooper discussion now dead ? Forever? Or just secret restricted to 3 people ... in Mongolia? Apparently everything that came and went before now passes into oblivion ... since new renters have already taken up residence where the old Cooper Sleuths died of abandonment, trickery, and worse! What of the Cooper sleuths stuck on the corner of 11th and Vine waiting for the Cooper bus out of Seattle? Screw em!
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Many good years Sangiro. Your website has been indispensable for sky divers. A true leader. Thanks for sharing it with the Cooper fanatics. My very best to you & yours whatever you do.
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good idea....
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Yes, it was atty Jack Pringle that represented Globe, collected Cooper money for them, and sent it off to Globe at New York City via Registered return receipt mail. His office was in Portland. Ive posted about this before ... I have no idea if he is still living . . . this Pringle is NOT to be confused with an FBI agent by the same name who worked on the Cooper case in Seattle ...
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Oh my God! GREAT WORK TRACING THIS! WOW. CONGRATS!! Would/could the gentleman appear at Cooper Con with his story? Somebody should let attorney Jack Pringle, know abut this if he's still alive. Jack was the the attorney for Globe at Portland. I am sure he would love to talk to the person! Jack never knew what happened to the money once he sent it off by registered mail, return receipt. He got the signed receipt back from Globe but never heard another word and made no further inquiries ... this brings the history full circle. Congrats Nick. Great work!
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There are similar rock types by other names around the world, for example in Sweden. Once again, it is impossible to know what Ulis' latest press release means. I guess it means what Ulis is saying it means, or not, whatever that means.
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worth a listen -
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what are you referring to ? what puffery in Part 66 ? 302s help bring new agents up to speed. I know one agent who joined the Cooper case in the Portland office two+ years after the event - he was given an armload of 302s and notes to digest. So 302s are generally taken seriously... for example this Agent remembers a boatload of paper work generated by Agents and area LE canvassing the Portland and Vancouver area as far north as Woodland trying to uncover any contact a 'stranger' might have had with anyone after landing ... the people out looking for Cooper or any sign of him included members of the public who were phoning in tips and suggestions ........... the whole mass of this paper work did not include even a hint of anyone interacting or noticing a 'stranger' including hobos in hobo camps along the rail line northside of Vancouver ........ 'Cooper just vanished, somehow'. ! Some people took this to mean 'Cooper is dead somewhere...' Years later that Agent is involved excavating at Tena Bar.
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I think it was three different dates.... three sets of questions/answers spread over about a week................. I will look it up. Do you want a copy of the whole thing? Glad to share it .... I may have given Chaucer a copy years ago ???
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sure - give me a few days, meanwhile Im reading Part66 with a fine tooth comb - hee hee. Cola was right about Part 66! Its dense with early Cooper/FBI history ...
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You did not post whole pages for context. Part18 5477 is a whole page. Below. I really think discussion of the Cooper case has broken down and at this point is so confusing and time consuming, it is going nowhere, impossible to follow, and pointless. Good luck.
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NEW: A week prior to the hijacking at Portland, a person was reported dropping flares from an airplane in Eugene air space. Ammerman is the source of this story. Ammerman and other controllers exchanged chatter about this after 305 was out of Ammerman's control. .. was the pilot of that plane ever identified and interviewed? Did that plane and pilot fly to Portland in the days just before the Cooper hijacking? Where was that pilot during the Cooper hijacking? Did anyone investigate that? I am assuming this is just one more Dead End.
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Here again we have a cataloging problem. Each Part has a number, each page WITHIN A PART has a number. You have not given the part-page numbers so we can find these pages? Everyone posting is using a different system! Post photos of the pages as attachments so we can copy ? Otherwise your pages can only be copied as partial screenshots with the Dropzone logo across each page! Here is an example ! This problem has become a nightmare . . . people are stuck doing clerical work vs anything else. We the page WITHIN A PART numbers to find these pages you post. Most people just give up and go find something else to do............ nobody is going to spend hours looking for one page within a Part! I have no idea where DBC Page 161514324332526 is in the FBI's FOIA files and Im not even going to try to find it !!!
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Any 302s ? regarding the investigation of the period before Cooper boarded 305, and people the FBI interviewed in the Portland and other areas immediately after the hijacking, trying to find any connection to Cooper ... would be helpful. Did local law enforcement get involved in this investigation or interview people during this critical period? Somebody had to be wondering if Cooper would return to the Portland area, or was injured and dead (if he was as claimed) in some drop zone "somewhere". Was there any concern by law enforcement about where Cooper was after the hijacking? Were people in the Seattle area interviewed ? These issues are fundamental to solving the DB Cooper case. Cooper very likely did not die in the jump. He picked himself up with his money secure and he went somewhere and did something! Nine years later some of the money mysteriously turns up on Tena Bar. There has to be a connection between this and what Cooper did and where he was and went, etc., immediately after he landed. What intel. justified the massive search for Cooper in 1972, in the wrong area?
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Back to basics - How did the airport parking lot operate at the Portland Airport where Cooper arrived and purchased his ticket? Could a car be stored there or nearby for several days then picked up and driven away a day later, without anyone noticing or any human interaction? Likewise, how did the bus system operate? Did the FBI interview any of the people involved in these systems ?
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D. B. Cooper and Flight 305: Fred Barnowski suspect eliminated ....
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Thanks! what Part and pg number ?
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I dont know of any 302 that mentions the Lab doing any serology on the Cooper money ... or anywhere else until dna testing is done in 2001 ? The cup is lost? etc ... I could be wrong .............. ? Except Dorwin says when they were setting up to excavate Tea Bar everyone was sensitive to the possibility of 'biological' materials turning up ...