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OK, well I didnt read the context ......... crap! age catching up with me! Thanks FJ.. been a rough week ....... all the other excuses! ..............

None of the participants had your view! I can guarantee that. The whole reason for the test was to try to duplicate and clarify what the 305 crew experienced during the time period Cooper may have jumped in. Basic science. All of the participants were experts in their fields! The test can hardly be dismissed as a 'cursory investigation' - of all of the participants! The idea that Cooper walked out on the stairs, tested the stairs, and finally jumped without leaving any telltale sign, is impossible. Anyone claiming that might as well claim intervention by the HolyTrinity! In fact, the test revealed information which very likely has still not been fully articulated, by socalled researchers. Hominid and I batted that back and forth with Hom being an articulate source of raising new questions no forum was debating .... this is just one of the reasons why Hominid was such a treasure! I think Hominid would be smiling and laughing just treading your comments! Sending out a few provocative emails to peoples late boxes!

And, at least you two are still talking. As things go in the Vortex, that is a win@!

Eric was probably right to try and narrow in on a suspect based on rare particles. That assumes Cooper and the particles and some business or environment connect, which may or may not be true. The tie may have even been a plant to throw investigators off. That approach by its nature is a last resort! Normally other evidence and other methods would be used People have been chasing their tails with this case since it happened. My personal bias is Mr. Cooper was probably some ordinary guy somewhere who decided to act on a grudge or something who was in need of money so he hatched a hijacking plan, and it worked! He was careful to leave little evidence. The FBI botched the evidence it had and so, everyone is here today trying to piece something back together on the faint hope that will work ...

I dont think Ive ever seen a 'problem' that seems to generate so many unorthodox solutions-machinations and exceptions/screwups! For example, God forbid that the Tena Bar money is due to something ordinary or predictable! It had to be due to something special, unusual, or even exceptional ........... something only a person like EU could stumble on or decipher. Or mind melding and metaphysics. Things beyond ordinary psychology and reality. God forbid Cooper was relaxing somewhere two months after the hijacking thinking to himself: 'God that was easy! I got away with it! I think I'm free. Those people are going to be chasing their tails for the next 100 years'.

The 'problem' is No Evidence. No finger prints, no dna, no anything. Just people's statements about descriptions and artist profiles of people's contradicting descriptions followed by people's arguments about descriptions. People cant even agree on where Cooper jumped! Its the same as trying to dig a hole with no tools. Or where to even put the hole! That will go on forever or until people wear out and move on ... the lack of hard evidence has been decisive in this case. Then Tom Kaye jumps in and gives us 200,000,000 particles to think about! The Cooper Case is in gridlock unable to move.

The HIrisPlex-S DNA test system is capable of simultaneously predicting eye, hair and skin color phenotypes from DNA. What we do know from Cooper's own lips, is that he was a traveler. He had been in the Midwest and Minnesota specifically. He said he wasnt taking the plane to Cuba. At one point he said the plane could not land anywhere in the USA. He specified going to Mexico City! He had social awareness of the world situation at the time. He wanted out of the grasp of law enforcement but then he bails just north of Portland. He is on the run to something ... above all he does not want to be apprehended and linked to a hijacking. The money makes him highly vulnerable ... nothing in his reported grammar suggests a Spanish speaker! Its an interesting combination of traits and history ...

Thats an interesting point! ( The PNW in November is NOT a sunny environment which indicates that Cooper being dark/olive was likely NOT from the PNW.) so is his encounter with a flight 305 a chance event? He is passing through the area ?

and he has been watching/monitoring from some place for: the right plane in the right place at the right time - his words. Plane cant land anywhere in the USA! (his words). Nothing so far about the FBI targeting-questioning Spanish populations ... anywhere? The FBI uses "Latin" in its descriptions but doesnt seem to target Latins for inspection. Who were the Latin populations in and around Portland at the time ? Or Seattle ? Latins that worked with ordinance and rare metals ? ... someone totally off the radar! A loner. Someone the FBI would dismiss because he doesnt fit their preconceived profile. Someone off the grid ?

I love your tenacity!

Unless I am wrong, so far there is no genetic information from any source, to suggest or document Latin vs anything else. The issue is documentation. Actual verified evidence. Appearance vs behaviors vs genetics ..... evidence ... ?

I agree but nothing we can do about it - except - stick to facts etc. These folks will run out of steam then come back around .................. you can count on that!

If the approach plane's lights are off I doubt anyone on the stairs would see anything, much less hear anything due to the whine of 305s engines. I tend to agree - just a bar story. Im disappointed Edwards would spend time on it. This is the last thing we need right now - whether by accident or his plan Cooper is right back headed toward Portland where it all started. And for some strange reason or intentionally, The US Treasury Forensic people will not even be consulted when the money is found. They are the very people you would want to consult and have examine and deal with the found money! The FBI decides to use its own Lab in Washington DC ... but maybe the Treausry people were consulted and we just have no lab report to confirm that ? Its strange what the FBI gives us vs. what they dont share or comment about ?

Edwards: 'However, sometime in 2022, a researcher of the Norjak case met Gen. Madson in the Victor-23 brewery in Vancouver, Washington. They had a short but friendly chat, and Gen. Madson told another story. He had intercepted Flight 305 about five miles north of Camas; he had seen the hijacker on the aft airstair; and the hijacker had given him a traditional gesture with a finger.' True or not true? https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/2500530.Robert_H_Edwards/blog Did Gen. Madson communicate this to the FBI ?

And pickles were the grudge.

Really! Union Carbide and India connect vis-a-vis thorium and uranium! So the Cooper tie now has a connection to India thanks to EU. Lax safety standards at UC. So, Cooper's grudge was over lax safety standards at Union Carbide. Hmmm. Best way to express that would be to hijack an airline and ask a small amount for compensation to millions of UC employees. In India? There we go! Shri Radjnish Cooper. India's friend at Union Carbide via Eric Ulis. Eric will now be front page news to billions in India! Way to go Eric! एरिक यूलिस एक प्रतिभाशाली व्यक्ति हैं। erik yoolis ek pratibhaashaalee vyakti hain.

You cant make this stuff up! Must be true! Does Ulis consult with anyone before issuing his mind-boggling enhancements of the Cooper case? I guess its beyond human reason or intervention. EU is a case all to himself. Unique and inexplicable. Some people are entitled to break all of the rules with the media covering their every fart! The media has turned the DB Cooper case into a joke.

He's milking the goat now!

The Cooper case is probably right where it should be: in near total chaos. A product of the people investigating it, if 'investigation' is really the word. The case has become a contest between competing parties! Nobody has been successful at establishing limits - what could have vs could not have happened. The case is in chaos with no direction. BTW, so far as I know, Meyer still has money buried at Tena Bar as a forensic test - if somebody hasn't stolen it. I wonder what condition its in by now? The FBI chose to bypass the Treasury Dept Forensic Lab which had decades of experience at teasing evidence out of buried money. The found money has been disassembled as found! Maybe Edwards, Carr, and EU have a solution ? This case is like a kidnapped victim who has been transported to God-only-knows-where and wakes up totally confused about what to do next!

Have lost track of the count - must be in the thousands edging up to a million: EU determined with 100% certainty. Has EU ever been wrong? New Topic for EU: did DB Cooper leave his socks on Tena Bar ? EU will know!

New thoughts from Edwards - https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/2500530.Robert_H_Edwards/blog

test ...

Take a break but dont quit! I see two forceful serious people at work.... disagreement is inevitable.

Very sorry to hear this. This is a loss and a personal loss. Meyer and I discussed the Cooper case by telephone over the years. Aside from his interest in the Cooper case (Meyer collected many sand samples for people and participated in many explorations of the Tena Bar area...) Meyer was interested in Cooper's grudge and what Cooper meant by 'this was the right plane in the right place at the right time,'. Meyer thought if we could get to the bottom of that, it would identify who Cooper was. 'Was the hijacking spontaneous or something Cooper had been planning for and was going to do, inevitably'. On a personal level, Meyer played a vital service role in his community over many years, educationally and socially. This is a loss for many people for many reasons. Meyer's enthusiasm and activism will be missed by many people ... travel well my friend!

Even better - how can they keep processing and rejecting suspects on prints ? Unless, there are more prints collected after Reno that have never been revealed so far ?