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Well Georger I did not make one word of that up. If you go back to the 45 and read things on Doc site, you will know. Everything Duane told me about Doc was true. ''Was true" the history fit and even went to N.Y.. You doubt anything anyone tells your but the truth. When Doc was on tV Duane whatched him and I heard the story more than once. The detail were more to the point in WA. He would go. Doc played at the Trails in CA and Duane was there. Often the let a wannbe get up and sing. Dreaming or falsifying I am not doing. Duane was a great singer and he did know Doc. This was VERIFIED by Duane's sister! Even when he was young the family went to see a family there. Duane was a powerful and good singer. The night we got married in Co. he had made arangement with the band as he knew a couple of them for him to sing a song. Duane excused himself from the table and then they made an announcement and Duane was on stage . It was the first time I had ever heard him sing. He was singing "You'll never Know" He walked down the stage while sing and took my hand and pulled me up on the stage and ended up on bended knee to finish the song. The audience wanted MORE, but he told them another time - this was his wedding night. Georger - why do such trivial incidents boughter you? I have not lied about any of that. Duane was gifted with a voice that was meant to sing. There was always the audience wanting MORE! All thru our marriage he took the stage to sing in many of the places if the genre was right for him. He WOWED the women and I was glad he could sing, because I cannot carry a tune. I was proud of his abliity. VERY trivial for you to knock the one thing he did excell with. He was remembered in the Dollar courner by the women there. One of them became a friend and is still a frined today - He was as good as Ingel Burt and a hell of better than Sinatra. His showman ship was evident. He also help set up the sound systems...so he said. You are picking on the wrong person with this. Duane was with them when they did the appearance in The Dalles in 1940's and he was wearing his navy uniform - but he was AWOL. Duane also played the trumpet. In 1982 he went to see on of the oldest Trumpet players in N.Orleans. He left a package for him. Of course he didn't let me go in because they knew him as Johnie Collins. What is your point? Is there a point ? What does any of this have to do with DB Cooper? (377 already asked this). I guess you are saying Duane Weber was a great man. DB Cooper was a Great man. Great men are alike. Therefore Duane was DB Cooper? Here is a photo of the Corn Palace. The greatest structure ever built out of corn. Since greatness is your contention - Did Duane "know" the Great Corn Palace!? Or for that matter... Do you "know" the Great Corn Palace? Did Duane "know" The Great Pyramid? How silly can this get? Will you still be posting about this in 2018? However, just to put an end to this let's stipulate that Duane Weber was at least as great a trumpet player as Doc Severinsen or whoever else you care to mention - on the same scale as Poverati as a singer, or whoever else you care to bring up - you win! Because NOBODY is as great or can compete with the GREAT JO WEBER ...

Duane knew Doc Severinsen like you know President O'bama! I know people who knew Doc Severinsen, played with Doc Severinsen, taught alongside Doc Severinsen, were students of and teachers of Doc Severinsen, knew him and his family personally, worked with Doc on a regular basis for years, arranged for Doc to ......... etc etc etc. Your Duane KNEW Doc Severinsen, like a frog knows the solar system and the Universe! Where in hell does Duane Weber fit into Doc Severinsen's life! Or YOU for that matter! Doc wouldnt give you the time of day and you would be ushered out a side door - fast! Stop making shit up!

Blevins, You may pontificate all you want, but it looks you and Jo have a new fellow giving you some stiff competition for being irrelevant. Compared to the current active three, Bob Knoss is beginning to look sane. Robert99 +1 It truly has become a drop zone.

Where's your interview with Rataczack you promised? Where's your interview with the Palmer Family you promised? Where's your interview with Mitchell you promised? Where's your interview with ... you promised? Personal problem?

Finally you may get it. The forgotten middle aged male, and the big one. Happy Birthday Clair, As seen in the New York Times, ILL tell you about to money some day that's a sad story, and do it yourself divorce, BY Maxx Gunther, This is the article that Maxx wrote that caught Kenneth attention years before the jump. Like I said 23 years it didn't happen by accented. I was only the 2 person Curtis E would ever meet with he is so glade to see this case end. I hate this case Paul Now they can call you HA HA. oh man what did I do. I begged him to tell me I was wrong. he said I can't you did it GC148 What are the ingredients for a football revolution? Try the Icelandic recipe – facilities, quality coaching and a big dose of self belief.

Well, you know I explored this because Duane told me he knew Severinsen and was there when he made his first radio broadcast on KODL in The Dalles. I found out in 2010 this was TRUE. It was after this that Severinsen hit the big time. I don't remember the date of the KODL radio show (it is in my files), but Duane had told me that Doc was born in Arlington and that he also had Pomeroy contacts. Somewhere I have all of this, but I was never able to make contact with Severinsen to verify it. Severinsen's broadcast was when Duane was at THE TAVERN in OR. Duane had told me there was a tape made of him singing. I have never been able to find out where that recording was made...but, the news articles and the writing done on behalf of Severinsen verified the KODL broadcast. Two brothers in the DALLES were adamant that Duane was the dishwasher at The Tavern....again 2 guys I personally interviewed in 2010 at a senior center. THEY had NO idea I was looking for Cooper. THE album I had was pictures of Duane during that time - that I was trying to retract the past of Duane who may have been using another name. THe one brother called the other brother over to the table and asked him for where he remember this young man. His response was the same a his brothers...yet neither knew I was on a Cooper mission. Without their having any knowledge my name was Jo Weber or what my mission was they told me their story and about a woman he was with - She was not deceased, but I only knew she lived in Hood. They did make some unfavorable remarks in regard to the woman. My time was limited and I felt I had verified Duane was in THE DALLES at the time of the broadcast. He had NOT lied about that. THe museum was closed because of the elections - so I never got to see the pictures. Now I find another man DUANE mentioned had relatives and did live in Pomeroy....that is a plus. I had NO idea the other man - whose history I had been chasing was also a resident of Pomeroy but do not know the time frame. Arlington, Pomeroy and The Dalles. What was the chance of that being a coincidence. Duane had mentioned BOTH Severinsen and the other man. With the other man he had told me things that also connect with Duane. The other man was several yrs older than Duane or Severinsen. He was closer to the age of Duane's brother, but not as old as John C. Weber....that was Duane's brother. John and the other man both worked for Boeing. Then I tracked the other man and due to the information I found he was also connected to an Area near Tacoma and may have been the man John had bought a business venture with. The wife of the other man had a link to a member of Duane's family and I don't mean Duane's brother. He was married to a woman who bore the same name and had the same background as a woman I was told about thru Duane and his sister and his brother. THe sheriff was related to the other man. THis sheriff helped to form a group connected to the CCC's in 1945. This other man is in no way connected to the skyjacking, but he probably met Duane as a young man while Duane and other were in WA in the late 40's. Duane had mentioned the flight along the coast line and into Alaska and one time while we were viewing a documentary on TV. Duane told me a story. This regarded some experiement with the tether - regarding a Hook. Before I had this information in my head but, I have lost a lot over the yrs. I even mentioned this in the thread - but was dissed. Duane told me he was the young man who made the mistake and that it almost cost him his life. Something about a knot he didn't do right. He had never been so cold in all of his life. Well, this man did conduct this experiment and I only recently found out this experiment connected to the very man - who was connected indirectely to the family of Duane Weber and Duane was in WA at that time. The man would not have recognized Duane's voice many yrs later on a phone and/or connected him to the skyjacking. The man's wife would be the media thur which Duane would have met her husband or thru the Sheriff. Perhaps I have connected dots that do not connect, but I know the connection is within what I have vaguely mentioned above but without the details I do know from the Brother and the Sister and things Duane mentioned. Neither John nor the other man or his wife would have known that a young man they had personal contact with was Cooper. But it is these connections with which Duane was familiar with WA and knew these people. OSLO, Nov 22 (Reuters) - Norway said it would team up with a Chinese firm to explore for oil offshore Iceland, in a rare cooperation for the two.

Paul, What makes you think you are entitled to any portion of recoverable assets deriving from the crime? If declaring it here on dropzone establishes your right then why only ask for half? Take it all. You are entitled. Right? 377 If you struggle.. to the end of my book or confession on the unnumbered page you will see why I put it there GC 148 Japanese Ambassador to Mongolia, Takenori Shimizu on Wednesday approved five projects to be lauched by Jan 1 2014.

I doubt the Seattle FBI even bothered to question the witnesses I listed in the Christiansen Report. That doesn't concern me much anymore. The way I figure it, because the report is a free download and the main information is really about the named witnesses, sooner or later someone will get to the accuracy of the allegations. Maybe next month, next year, maybe never. On another note: How many of you (*show of hands*) actually own a copy of the Max Gunther book D.B. Cooper - What Really Happened? I do NOT own a copy, although I have ordered one recently from Amazon. Someone sent me a very interesting document today. It's a list of 'things' from the book, with a list of comparisons. Right now, that's all I can say about it. I don't want to publish it or venture any opinions on it just yet...until I see the Gunther book for myself. The reason I'm asking if any of you own the book is because when you state your opinions on the document, I want to make sure they are educated opinions, and without a copy of the Gunther book you can't do that. Neither can I, which is why I ordered one. If the document is accurate (and I have no way of knowing yet, without seeing the book) it is far beyond the realm of mere coincidence. Believe it or not, I am basically a skeptic on these things. What is this document? It's a comparison list with page numbers added. If it is true, all you can say is 'whoa...no WAY'. Can't wait for the book to arrive so I can check it against the document. If the items listed in the book match the list of comparisons, I will publish everything in its entirety. For now...I am off the air until after Thanksgiving weekend, or until the book arrives. And I wish everyone a VERY happy holiday.

On page 118 of Robert Blevin's Book there is a side view of Christiansen. Pretty much the exact angle Mitchell would have been looking at .. for those three hours he was not getting the girl This pic is from just a few years before Norjack BTW What is his call on Christiansen?? and the picture is? where's the picture ? Do we mindmeld? There has been an increase in Northern Lights activity in Iceland this year due to Iceland's location – just below the Arctic Circle.

Reply: Thanks, Georger. Yes, it is true. Geoffrey called me yesterday and invited me to sit on a panel during the symposium on Saturday at the WSHM. In true Geoffrey style, he talked with me as he also gave directions to a cabbie that was driving him to 3rd AVenue and Something St for unknown reasons. We discussed a bit what I would talk about, besides answering questions from the audience, so the panel seems to have a dual purpose. I suggested themes that I spend more time wiith most other researchers and writers, such as the red flags of bad police work flying over the feds's Norjak investigation, Tina, and what happened to Cossey. Geoff loved the FBI angle, so that is where I will probably go, besides sharing my opinions about what the audience wants to discuss. Geoff said he would call me Sunday night to chat further. I wonder what mode of transportation he will be using then, as the first time I spoke with Geoff many years ago he was on an Amtrak train to DC, and once he was on a NYC subway. That's my Geoffella. Have fun. You would ignore any advice I would give so have fun! (smile). Hawks 24. Michigan 21. Who would have thunk it! The Tosaws are smiling tonight. My family likewise. Your advice would either be hate-filled or useless anyway. Or chock full of phony quotes from people like Geoff Gray or your infamous 'Jean'. Or 'Max'. Take your pick. You want to talk Hawks? Wait and see what happens when the New Orleans Saints come to Monday Night Football and visit the Seattle SEAhawks LOL. That will a game, I assure you. Happens a week from this Monday. Here's a hint: Don't bet on New Orleans to win. Blevins,,, you sure are one toxic gentleman! Come let’s gather at the riever, The rierver the rierver the rie-ver Come let’s gather at the riever, Then to lay our burdens down, That flows by the throne of God. Yes, we’ll gather at the river, The beautiful, the beautiful the river; Gather with the saints at the river That flows by the throne of God. Washing by the river with its silver slippered spray, We shall walk and we shall talk All the happy day. Ere we reach those golden shores, Then to Lay our burdens down; Grace be in our spirits, And provide a golden crown. Soon we’ll reach the silver river, Soon our pilgrimage will cease; Soon our happy hearts will quiver With the melody of peace. Come let’s gather at the river, The riever the riever the rie-ver Come let’s gather at the riever, Then to lay our burdens down, That flows by the throne of God.

Reply: Thanks, Georger. Yes, it is true. Geoffrey called me yesterday and invited me to sit on a panel during the symposium on Saturday at the WSHM. In true Geoffrey style, he talked with me as he also gave directions to a cabbie that was driving him to 3rd AVenue and Something St for unknown reasons. We discussed a bit what I would talk about, besides answering questions from the audience, so the panel seems to have a dual purpose. I suggested themes that I spend more time wiith most other researchers and writers, such as the red flags of bad police work flying over the feds's Norjak investigation, Tina, and what happened to Cossey. Geoff loved the FBI angle, so that is where I will probably go, besides sharing my opinions about what the audience wants to discuss. Geoff said he would call me Sunday night to chat further. I wonder what mode of transportation he will be using then, as the first time I spoke with Geoff many years ago he was on an Amtrak train to DC, and once he was on a NYC subway. That's my Geoffella. Have fun. You would ignore any advice I would give so have fun! (smile). Hawks 24. Michigan 21. Who would have thunk it! The Tosaws are smiling tonight. My family likewise.

Quote Hlevins has been passed over for the Gray panel which will answer questions about the DB Cooper case, at WSHM event. Bruce Smith was selected and will serve alongside Gray. Congrats Bruce. LOL I told WSHM and Geoff Gray months ago I couldn't make the event. Get real. There ARE other things in my life besides Cooper, you know. Like family occasionally. I bailed twice in a row on Grandma in favor of Ariel. This time I went with Grandma. It's the least I could do, since she flies up for Thanksgiving each year from Vista, CA. As usual, you know exactly zip on my motivations. Believe it or not, although I have a certain interest in the case, I don't LIVE for it. I haven't even gotten around to viewing the display at the museum, although I probably should I'll admit. Congratulations, Bruce. I look forward to an interesting article about the event on Mountain News. Get real? Get REAL? oH! Ok... You were passed over anyway. get real!

I may have misquoted Gray when I stated a while back that Kenny was making $512 a month. Gray says somewhat less in the article: Quote Hlevins has been passed over for the Gray panel which will answer questions about the DB Cooper case, at WSHM event. Bruce Smith was selected and will serve alongside Gray. Congrats Bruce.

Robert99, that is a very unfair summary.... The FBI did screw up! THAT is a fact that is documented by others and I mean professionals. In 2001 - that JEFFERSON file was NOT available to me or to a private eye or to one to the top researchers of government files. ONE individual with the proper papers and material - made a special trip to Jefferson after an employee told us what was needed to pick up a copy of the file. He was turned away...saying they didn't have it, yet the employee's whose email address and email copies exchange at the prison and before it was closed - said they had the file...and it would be available. The employee also verified another individual as a resident connected to Duane - was also incarcerated. NOW - DOES that sound NORMAL. Yes, I think the authorities are dropping the ball on Cossey. Random crime - they need to look deeper! I also have the emails that prove Galen is a sneaky snake in the grass...I have a book 4 inches thick to prove it. YOU shoud know by reading the things Bruce twists around & how he treated Tina & others that I speak the truth about him. YOU will learn the HARD WAY. Do you approve of the way the man treats people and twists things and how he treated Tina and her brother-in-law? If you know one thing about me - you will know that I tell it like it is. I have never claimed Duane Weber was an angel - far from it! I am well aware of the things he did and that he was a thief and worse. My 17 yr marriage to him was built on lies. Yes, he was funny and he was a hard worker - he was a criminal. The criminal record and the things you and others state - are enough. I can add thing to the list and they are not all good - but, Duane had NO enemies. Strange isn't it - that he kept contacts with certain individuals. His best friend had NO idea he was an ex-con. Duane had 2 specific personalities and I have seen both sides.....but, much of that need not be aired. When I am critical of others such as Bruce and Galen and the FBI - bear in mind - I have documentation. Bruce is rude and crude and sneaky and pushy in a way that is NOT acceptable to me. That is evident in how he twists words and the questions I answer to which he formulates in his own coercive twisted way. As for Georger - he just goes with the flow - he can be your friend in one post and then turn on you with the next one. Georger is NOT as privey to the information as he likes to project (my opinion). Frankly I like Georger because I "get" him. His personality on the thread is one that you have to "get" to understand. I have a friend whose husband is just like that - but I "get" him... Who is EVERYONE else I supposedly disagree with? I have a right to tell & defend Duane's story & MY story! Yes, as weird as it seems - I loved him, because he was funny, able to always work things out when dealing with business and friends & situations. I knew of NO ONE who thought he was disgusting or dispicalbe person - other than ONE exwife. I am sure there have been others over the yrs. Duane was a problem child and as an adult - it took him a long time to grow up. Something happened in his life that altered his thinking and his reactions to situation and ALL for the better. I know only one person who did not like him - infact - people loved him. He would give you the shirt off his back and he gave when he was doing without himself. This is the man I knew! I also saw another side of Weber that was confusing to me during those last 5 yrs - but that was brought about by the kidney functions - or so I thought. He could and would and did take a stand to defend others. If he thought someone was in trouble he was there. If he thought someone was being mistreated or doing wrong - he had a way of handling it and working it out. He had a way of hiding himself and changing the course in an acceptable direction for everyone and with humor. NO one who knew DUANE even imagined he had ever been in prison, much less several. The individuals who I did meet from his past - such as the one who threatened me - seemed to admire and have nothing, but good things to say about him. The people from his past showed him admiration & respect and now I know many of those knew of his past and where part of his past. When you figure this man out LET me know! The hostility presented by you was uncalled for...so if you have read this entire post - remember you created it. By the way - I am a divorcee and I have been widowed twice. Duane was NO angel, but my last husband was! I miss them both. The first husband was the dirty rotten scoundrel who swindled his friends and family. He never remarried! WHAT does that say about me & two husbands I have out lived? Jo, there is literally nothing in your background to connect you to the DB Cooper case. The only thing you are a victim of is your own flirtations. The FBI and everyone else with a brain realised that years ago. Everything else has been your own victimisation of yourself, Mrs Cooper! ? The same can be said for this other Great Pretender - RobertMBlevins.

I think I mentioned this already, but I have to skip the events this year. Family is coming for Thanksgiving and I have something else planned for afterward. If any of you wish to question Geoff Gray on how he came to the idea that Kenny C bought his house for cash, or at least put a 50% down on it, email me at adventurebooksofseattle AT Gmail Dot Frickin' Com and I will send you all the available documents related to the sale. I will provide them in suitable resolution so you can print them up. I suggest making copies and taking them with you to the symposium. Suggestion: If you have a vid-cam, bring one. Failing that, maybe a voice recorder at least. Always get people on the record...

Well, Georger your post does not deserve an answer. You do NOT think in REAL LIFE terms. Duane confessed to a crime. I did the right thing and contacted the FBI...but in less than 2 yrs. they sent a letter dismissing him based ONLY on prints. I was threaten NOT once, but TWICE on the phone - from individuals who Duane had associations with! The more I learned about the crime, the more - I realized I already had knowledge of a great deal of it. Duane had told me about his life in 3rd person...but at that time I had no confirmation until about 3 yrs ago when the Treasure Island Arrest was made available to me in this thread. Well lots of OTHER things started to FALL into place. You have NO idea how many contacts I have had with STRANGE individuals from the past of Weber. I could have ended up fish bait off the East Coast. I was naive - had NO idea his old friends might have just been trying to find out HOW Much I knew. I had been dealing with the inept FBI for over 9 yrs before I contacted TINA. I had NO place else to turn. I felt she spent the most time with him and if anyone could ID Cooper it would be Tina. You do NOTE even after I was provided a contact I did NOT pounce on it like "others" have done. I didn't know how to approach her - it was difficult for me and it was difficult for her - I knew she had with drawn from society as I did myself after the FBI dissed me & did NOT even HEAR one word I had told them. Evidently Tina felt I was also a victim as she had been. I didn't run out my door when I realized who DAN COOPER - was - I picked up the phone and called the FBI and accepted the things they told me for almost 5 yrs..but, too much was coming up the FBI ignored. If I had learned What I did before DUANE DIED - I would have turned him in on his deathbed. I have been as much a victim as Tina - The knowledge that I was married to a man who had done this - was tearing me apart. I went thru all of the normal processes - of doubt and fear (you know I was threaten more than ONE time)! I have a feeling you perhaps do NOT believe this. I survived an auto crash - and considering the circumstance at that time - I was scared. Other things happened I do NOT talk about...causing me to with withdraw - such as the FBI agent who I had a contract with on a house I had listed - suddenly DID NOT WANT me TO GET ANY COMMISSION. I did NOT go right out and barge in on or swamp Tina - I considered what she had been thru. Why when I did contact her - it was a NICE letter written with as few words as possible - I sent NO pictures. I had her phone number and yet I wrote to her! SHE did NOT have to respond~ right? I also could have gone to OR when I was out West in 2010. She was able to sense suffering - because she has suffered. I have always been grateful for that phone call. The most important thing she said was "He was a very SAD man". Then when I tell the thread this - CARR puts it into the FBI SITE. NOW that pissed me! If you want to come down on someone for being rude or circumventing a witness - look no further than an FBI agent by the name of CARR. HELL that damn agent had NO idea if I was lieing or not! Yet, they PUT it into their Web site! Since I had that one contact with her - there was NO reason for anyone to try prevent me from contacting her. Galen Cook and Bruce SMITH went way too far and they did NOT even say "I'm Sorry". I have never spoke to Florence and I have spoke to the co-pilot as many others have done. There are those who come to this thread and who had absolutely nothing to do with a subject or witness - other than to have ENQUIRER mentality. I know what Galen did, but have you ever seen me write about it. Why don't you ask Galen what HE DID - not what BRUCE did! The other contacts was to leave a message from the co-pilot and to warn her about Bruce and what he was doing. If I had repeated unwanted contact - that would have been one thing. DO NOT CRITICIZE me for looking for answers...in the only way I could. THIS WAS PERSONAL & I was not a reporter or a writer. THE FBI had not done it! THEY took one stupid pic - which is the only pic they EVER USED of WEBER and one that was warped and looked nothing like Weber. P.S. THE witness were NEVER shown the Jefferson composite! Just ONE stupid photo the brother had scanned - that is ALL they were shown...and I understand that is all they are using at the museum. A photo that looks nothing like the Weber I knew or how he looked in 1971. I have not been rude nor have I been intrusive - I have 2 daughters of my own...and I asked myself over and over and over - iF Tina had been my daughter and was on that plane how would I feel. I had every reason to show up on her door with picture albums - but I didn't. THE FBI did not adequately handle the investigation of Weber. One 2 paragraph letter in 1998 and then the AGENT LIED to me on the phone in MARCH of 2000. GIMME a break. They were NOT going to investigate - so I had to do it. I still waited 4 plus yrs before contacting Tina in late 2004 by letter. SHE WAS not obligated to contact me. I also included a donation for whatever charity she chose - She could have called me collect but she didn't. SO MR GEORGER - I was NOT invasive. You are a VERY poor judge of character. At that time I did not discuss the picture of the little girl - but wish I had done so. IT would have been one less thing I would have had to dealt with. I could have stuck a copy in the an envelope and sent it to her - and a copy of the book - but, I didn't! How many people would have or did stopped where I did. She had my phone number and she knew she could call collect - I left it up to her! NOW if you knew a big ole BEAR was hungry and roaming for a morsel - would you not have called out a warning. Well, I did when I found out what the BEAR was up to and whose door he was going to knock on - he had already knocked on Tina's...but, I had no knowledge of that until after the fact. Remember this - the man in MOBIL was a VERY DANGEROUS man! Yet, I staged an incident in his area on my way home from Lousiana after visiting a friend there. He was nice, but warned me a second time NOT to dig into Duane's past. The first threat was NOT that nice. His words "If you want to be around to play with your grandkid". So what the HELL was Duane involved with? Ever think I already know the answers. YOU know I do and if you haven't figured that out yet - you aren't very bright! You are fishing right now! Kissy Kissy! No one mentions Cossey anymore. Perhaps Cossey got tired of the games and maybe that is why he is no longer among the living! Random murder by attempted robbery - you know I do NOT believe for one moment Cossey was that careless. He was killed by someone he knew! What was Duaner involved with you ask? ANSWER: Duaner was involved with ... YOU! And now YOU are here! That is the only truth that matters! Please dont play it again, Sam. Find a new project/victims. NO SALE! PLEASE PLY YOUR TRADE ELSEWHERE!

You might have a point about contact because Jo is/was related to the possible hijacker, but the rest of your statements are not fully accurate. For one thing, witness tampering usually only applies to people who have been previously subpoened, and are due to appear as a witness in a court case. None of the surviving crew of Flight 305 fit that criteria. You've heard of the paparazzi...relentless reporters, etc? Those are not criminal acts generally, just annoying. And these people can just say 'no comment' if they choose not to respond. But there is no rule saying you can't try to question them. In your world, reporters should never ask questions of witnesses when investigating a story, or an allegation. Since Cooper left very little physical evidence, the only way the case will ever be solved is to seek out possible witnesses, get their testimony, and then VERIFY that testimony. You aren't going to discover the truth through maps, going over the transcripts, or any of that. The most likely scenario is that Cooper jumped somewhere in SW Washington, got away with it, but that TODAY in 2013 you will have to find witnesses who know the truth. Because unless someone discovers a body (he died) or a buried chute that matches the one used, (he lived) the truth will always escape you. There are many variables in the case, but on one point I am absolutely certain: That someone out there knows the truth on who DB Cooper actually WAS. Sure, it is an opinion. But I feel strongly that somewhere along the line either Cooper had help, or others he knew were also aware of his crime. This doesn't necessarily mean Christiansen, but ANYBODY. SOMEONE KNOWS. FYI: If Tina Mucklow chooses not to discuss the case, she has NOT singled out Jo for that. Mucklow has refused comment to a fair number of people already, or claimed she remembered little about the night of the hijacking. SIDE NOTE: Because it's the 50th anniversary of the JFK assassination, many cable channels have been running programs. I was nine when JFK was killed, and attending parochial school in Roseburg, Oregon. We wore the uniforms, etc. We had just moved there from Guam. Mother Superior comes into the classroom. She is crying. She says the President has been shot, and that he is dead. Everyone broke down, of course. Even our teacher. School was dismissed. I went home and watched Cronkite like everyone else. Later that evening, I went to a special Mass said for the President that was held at the church next door to the school. Everything was sort of different after that... Well... you would be promoting that point of view, because: 1. you have never tested your theory legally! Yours is a cheap bar-room opinion. 2. you want to claim yourself a 'reporter' because you want that advantage/protection for the shit you do! 3. you have a candidate and evidence you claim is germane to the case with a financial interest to protect... 4. you like making things up ... but also want deniability! 5. you have no idea who Tina has refused or not refused to talk to! Again you just love making shit up within the small window of your knowledge ... 6. . . . I could care less about your pre-puberty JFK experience.

On the one hand you claim your husband was the criminal DB Cooper. On the other hand you admit trying to contact and even socialise with victims in the crime, to help and befriend you! ??? That has to rank as a gross impropriety of the first order. Not to mention possible crimes including witness tampering. Or maybe your thirst for social attention and friendship belies the fact you know Duane was not DB Cooper, so you are free to contact the victims and witnesses in the crime? Why on Earth would Tina Mucklow ever want to contact you? By all accounts she is trying to shield herself from the hijacking. Why would Mucklow contact the wife of the person who ruined her life? You might be as great a threat as Duane/Cooper was @!! Or even a larger threat if you were part of a conspiracy to hijack. The Justice Dept could very easily have obtained an injunction against you to stop your interference, contacts, et cetera had anyone actually believed Duane (your husband) was DB Cooper. And yet you threw caution to the wind and all concerns likewise and persisted, and continue to persist. It certainly is a contradiction in terms.

FIRST - I SLAMMED THE PHONE DOWN ON YOU. I CALLED ABOUT A SIMPLE CLARIFICATION ON SOMETHING AND WHAT DO YOU DO - YOU BADGER ME FOR MY SOURCE REGARDING HOW I FOUND TINA: "JO STATES THE TRUTH HERE OF YOUR RUDE TACTICS! JO DID not WAFFLE - SHE STOOD HER GOUND. SHE PROMISED TINA THE CONVERSATION WOULD BE PRIVATE AND PRIVATE IT HAS STAYED." "YOU WANTED A COPY OF THE EMAIL COMMUNICATIONS BETWEEN ROBBIE AND MYSELF - AGAIN THAT IS CONFIDENTIAL & THE FBI SHOULD HAVE A COPY OF THE EMAIL COMMUNICATION. YOU ARE A SCUM BAG! I PROMISED CONFIDENTIALITY AND I HAVE HELD TO THAT." Bruce then STATES: JO AGAIN INSERTS WITH IN YOUR POST [RED]I DID LOT LEARN OF TINA'S CONTACT INFORMATION FROM SUSAN GILMORE SHE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS. AS A JOURNALIST ALL OF HER COMMUNICATIONS TO PRINCIPLES IS CONFIDENTIAL. Bruce wrote: JO STATES: PRECISELY WHAT I SAID AND I NEVER CLAIMED I GOT ANY INFORMATION FROM SUSAN. JO INSERTS ONE FINAL TIME THAT SUSAN DID NOT PROVIDE ME WITH THE CONTACTS I ACQUIRED YOU DIDN'T EVEN MENTON THAT JO HAS ALL OF HER CONTACTS WITH SUSAN IN BLACK AND WHITE EMAILS.[/RED] I NEVER DEPENDED ON DISK - SO I PRINTED THEM. YOU ARE A FRICKING ENQUIRE TYPE PERSON - WHY DON'T YOU GET A JOB WITH THEM AND LEAVE THOSE OF US WHO ACTUAL DO FIND THING AND DO NOT BLABB THEM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY ALONE. YOU ARE THE SLIME OF THE EARTH AND YOU LIVE LIKE A FILTHY HOMELESS MAN. YOU GET YOUR JOLLIE BY TRYING TO TRICK THOSE WHO HAVE ACTUALLY DONE THE WORK AND MADE THE CONTACTS. IF THE PERSON REFUSES TO GIVE YOU THE INFORMATION YOU RIDICULE THEM! I WILL BE SPEAKING TO SUSAN THIS WEEK AND MAKE SURE SHE UNDERSTANDS WHO THE SCUM BAG IS. THE CRUDE AND FILTY WAY YOU APPROACHED TINA - MAKES YOU A STALKER. I WILL ALSO INFORM SUSAN OF THIS. Take your dirty stuff and put it somewhere else and not a thread were we try to sort the facts out. ALL you WRITE Is GARBAGE and LIES! Though U had tried to change and be a respectable writer, but some do NOT change they only get worse! Hmmmmm. Jo states in Jan 8, 2008, 12:06 AM Post #956 of 1694 Re: [dbcoopercatcher] dbcoopercatcher [In reply to] ________________________________________ In reply to: In reply to Tina never being uncooperative, Ralph must have been mistaken. Have you talked to her? I can give you her number. Jo says: You said earlier that she wasn't cooperative. If she is now talking to people maybe she will talk to me. Her phone call to me yrs ago was terse and she did not want to talk about the incident. I respected her wishes. She could help me very much - it has been my only desire - for her to view the photos that I have (some of which the public had never seen). If she had talked to me a few yrs ago - I might not be where I am now with my health and my life might not have been turned upside-down. I find it hard to believe that she has changed. (This post was edited by skyjack71 on Jan 8, 2008, 12:10 AM) (1) Phone call from Tina TO Jo years ago? Pre 2008 ??? (2) If she had talked to me a few yrs ago - I might not be where I am now with my health and my life might not have been turned upside-down. Years ago!? Your health has suffered because of Tina Mucklow!? play it again Sam

Moral high ground? Sometimes maybe, that's all. But unlike you, I don't engage in baiting. Or scrabbling around as you do quoting others falsely in a pathetic effort to discredit. (See: 'Jean' Told Me So,' and 'Geoff Gray Said This and That' or your famous 'We,' where you claim to speak for others.) We have a nickname for you at the AB office. It's Max.

Well, either the hijacker wrote one of the letters, or he didn't. If a close family member of Melvin's were tested, and it were determined that the results matched one of the letters...well, you can see where this is going. Melvin is already a suspect in some ways. A match puts it far beyond the possibility of coincidence. To address a couple of comments from others: YES, I think WSHM dropped the ball on the Mitchell interview. YES, I have received communications from the Seattle FBI occasionally on the DNA question, although not post-Marla. You always claim to have the "moral high ground" ... not to mention "the only-best true facts". That is amazing, given the current status quo. Very likely, WSHM and Mitchell and the FBI could all care less what you think. And smirk at the very thought of it.... while the guy at Adventure House Cleaning runs his mouth ... That's a joke, in case you don't git it! Maybe you should spend your time geting BlevinsCare towork instead of bullying-criticising others!

Well...even though I see that Shutter has refused PM's from me, this is the one I sent when I saw his post: Maybe Mitchell wont talk to ya either - spose? I don't know that yet. But using my sympathetic message to Shutter to discuss Mitchell shows you have no class...and no manners either. Happy Thanksgiving. Not fit for a response Everything youve said on this thread tonight is utter bullshit. Made up nonsense. Get somme rest, tigre. [Quote PM just received: "Blevins tells Bruce how to interview, and now the WSHM too? And the FBI on how to conduct an investigation? Tries to tell us what the FBI is thinking and doing ? Who and what's next on Blevin's list? It's insane at the DZ. _____________ redacted _______________]

Well...even though I see that Shutter has refused PM's from me, this is the one I sent when I saw his post: Maybe Mitchell wont talk to ya either - spose?

This is after he went and changed in the bathroom and put the toupee on and used mascara to completely darken his hair all the way. GC 148 Oui Oui Dan Coupier' However, Bill Mitchell was sitting in the same row of seats as Cooper. Cooper went into the bathroom after the passengers and two stews/one pilot left the plane. How could Mitchell see the supposed toupee? and what did Cooper change into? Was he using mascara to change into an ugly woman? Was that his disguise? Did Tina give him the mascara? Let's face it. What is needed here is a re-interview of Mitchell, with a prepared list of questions in a relaxed format. I have heard Cooper spent some time in the bathroom, but Mucklow never mentioned anything about his appearance changing after he emerged. GreyCop may have picked that mascara stuff from the Richard Floyd McCoy hijacking: Part One of the Musika Farnsworth article from Parachutist Online. Part Two. Vicki: It's occurred to me that if DNA samples from the letters were made public...even if the Citizen Sleuths are responsible for the testing of the letters...and you could provide a DNA sample to the Tom Kaye Gang...a match would be too much for coincidence. You have to think on WHY someone would send such a letter. Mostly they are phony, or from nuts or fans of the crime. And yet..sometimes they are NOT, as in the BTK or Scorpio cases. A match to your father, in my humble opinion, would be overwhelming evidence he was Cooper. Nope. GreyCop picked the mascarra stuff from the horiscope in his daily newspaper. The same place he got the rest of his story ... after reading your book of course! Or... he got it from Adam Kesher..

This is after he went and changed in the bathroom and put the toupee on and used mascara to completely darken his hair all the way. GC 148 Oui Oui Dan Coupier' Did he change his nail polish?