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Jo, Tom is now saying he is not sure there were no diatoms on the bills. He just didn't notice any on one bill. So saying no diatoms on the money may be incorrect, and Tom only had three bills to examine of the total found money .... ok? It's better to wait on this ... current data is inconclusive. G.

RobertMBlevins, I read your synopsis of the screenplay. Are you going to use Bernie's real name in the script? Seems like you could get sued if you come right out accuse a living person of masterminding the hijacking. Why not? I'm okay with that. Let him sue us. Then he would have to answer all those annoying little questions. You know...where were you on Thanksgiving week with Kenny...why did you say on national TV you thought Kenny could be Cooper when you were with him...why did you lie to Marisa Kagan and History Channel staff when you said you hardly knew Kenny and thought he was a dishwasher...why did you say you were out to sea with Foss Tugs the entire year of the hijacking and Foss says you weren't...stuff like that. I could go on. Don't get me started. We are well-prepared for anything from Geestman. Trust me on this. I didn't list the half of it.

Applause!

Well, sounds like a 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend' kind of thing. You know what, Robert? Everyone got an opinion. A lot of folks have seen both you and Georger's posts here. And some of them email with WTF type of questions about those posts. They are generally not favorable toward you guys. You know, after a few days and you go back and look at almost anyone's post here, you'll see it's been visited five, six, seven hundred or more times. I keep trying to toss in Cooper stuff here and there lately. All I see coming back is the same thing that comes out of cows when they lift their tails. Maybe it's time for you to head back over to Deadzone. Yes, Dropzone has some viewership. So!? Do you think it's because of you? It is going to be a very long day for those 700 viewers of yours - Blev. Your soap opera has grown thin and stale. So, who are these 700 viewers of you here? Inmates of Attica trapped in their cells? A captive audience? HI GUYS! Back to your regularly scheduled programing of Blev's blank screen - BYE GUYS! REMEMBER LIGHTS OUT AT SEVEN! JUST REMEMBER WHO RUNS THINGS HERE - NOT YOU - ITS BLEV! BEV IS TOP DOG HERE! LIGHTS OUT AT SEVEN EXCEPT IN BLEV'S CAGE - BLEV HAS SPECIAL PRIVELEGES.

I said two weeks after you arrived in 2010 you were trying to hijack this thread? Sluggo called you: "a legend in his own mind". Didn't I also say that Gray had warned us about you, and knew things, and said you would stoop to anything to get your way? Seem you are "known" far and wide. To repeat, you are the one who brought Sluggo and all of this other shit up! The rest of us just follow your path of destruction.

You dont know what the F^#& you are talking about! You didnt know Sluggo at all and still don't. Of course that's just my opinion!

Jo, What do you see on those disks? Describe the maps you are talking about? She's talking about the maps Sluggo has freely available on his website. They've been there for years. Sluggo (real name: Wayne Walker) said this in March 2009, regarding this thread: Smart guy, isn't he? My opinion on Cooperland is pretty simple. There is the public. They are normal. They have no axe to grind. Then there is the underbelly of Cooperland, where some amateur sleuths will lie, cheat, character-assassinate anyone who gets in their way, or presents evidence that might actually solve the case. Suspect anyone who HAS a book, PROPOSES a book, or is trying to get a current book published. That includes me. (*laughs*) But I want you to notice something before you blame me for 'all' problems on this thread. Compare Sluggo's blog post to the date I actually joined Dropzone. That's right. Sluggo quit this forum long before I arrived in 2010. Obviously he thought there were problems over a year before I came along. Enough so that he quit, anyway. Question EVERYTHING.

Thanks Jo... take care.

Yes. It was such a negative and downright childish thing to announce and all. Let's face it. It's not really YOUR discussion forum, and neither it is truly 'public' in any remote description. It belongs to a few 'heavies' on your site, two of whom have much to gain or lose on upcoming books. One has finished his, the other has been promising one since at least 2005. Others have been banned from Dropzone. As long as any new members don't cross the heavies or piss them off, they can stay and post. Otherwise, the heavies will pressure you to dump them. You don't 'run' the site. You serve at the discretion of what is required from you by the heavies. And I have read the comments so far. A more boring discussion I haven't seen. The 'negative post' I made that you referred to I will repost. Except for the cutesy comment I did at the start showing how I played a bit of a joke on you, it's actually pretty interesting. The reason I played that on you was real simple. You have no manners. You went public with comments about me being excluded, and even solciting other comments on the subject. The thing to do would have been to just drop me a PM. 'Blevins I think it's better if you don't register and just stick to Dropzone'. I would have respected that approach. So I decided to do a minor punkn on you, which IMHO you deserved. As far as this 'negative post' you speak of, it was about a very nice event. Too bad none of you guys will be at the event. You are missing out for sure. Did you know I tried to set up Bruce Smith for a packed house, which would have been a nice book launch for him, but he's not interested? He wants to move to LA and try to land a Hollywood producer. Good luck with that. Producers and film production companies don't do business that way. A good agent is required or they laugh you out of the building. Any other approach is amateurish. He will find out for himself. Negative Post: ***'Okay...it's a bit late but I just got word on what I can and cannot say regarding the Adventures In Literature event (some Cooper-related) happening the second Saturday of this coming August at the Auburn Avenue Theater, good old Auburn, WA. 1) Doors will open at 9AM. Admission is FREE. 2) See Gayla at the Concessions Window for your free snacks and drinks. 3) Todd at Finally Found Books in Auburn is scheduling the speakers for this event. So go to him for anything speaker-related. If you are a Cooper nut, or can't behave yourself, don't bother. Festival director Connie Henke, yours truly, and others have given him his Miranda Warnings. Actually that would be Cooper Nut warnings. Trust me - they exist. If your presentation is regarding Cooper, you might want to contact me first to serve as the go-between with Todd. Speaker slots are filling quickly. 4) There will be no presentations, discussions, or readings between 12 noon and 1:30PM, due to the parade up Main Street. This is the time you should get out of the theater and wander around looking for food. I always do.

No worries. I never had any intention of mentioning my little joke on Facebook, etc. I just felt like a little punk'n was in order since you singled me out....and then a few of the people you DID allow have made a habit of lying about me, Porteous and a nice old man named Lyle Christiansen. You should ask yourself this: If they lied about me and these other people, who's next? Whomever pisses them off? Anyone they see as a threat to the discussion because they present a viable suspect and it doesn't happen to be Gossett? I may not believe Gossett's the guy, but I don't go around making shit up on him in a pathetic effort to discredit. That would be Galen Cook and anything regarding Christiansen that he can think of. Funny thing, though. You'd be surprised at how the general public often sees right through that kind of thing for what it is. Robert, I think the sad part is you don't seem to understand why you're not welcome on the other site. I guess if you did, you probably wouldn't be unwelcome. You assume I would actually post anything there. Or WANT to sign up. Thanks, but I prefer DZ all the way. I only played that little joke because I didn't like being singled out publicly. Shutter could have just dropped a hint on me in a message, which would have been more polite. Even when I blocked BK from messages, I didn't use his name. Nah...you guys go ahead. I had my bit of fun and now it's over. I'm sure if you figure out anything solid on the case, someone will post it here sooner or later. That assumes you are telling the truth. That's quite a joke ha ha. Very likely you would have hung out there until discovered just as you've done elsewhere. Do you consider yourself a reputable representative of the City of Auburn, Washington? Protecting Auburn Washington from Cooper nuts? Are you Chair of the Cooper Nut Committee? Here it is - and you don't even have to lurk and sneak around! Or make crazy claims ... http://www.auburnwa.gov/home.htm Say hello to Hazel Nut! And your "Wage Earner Sheeple" and "Slapped Down Red Haired Step Children?".

You don't know me at all. Please don't pretend you do. I'm fine. Look...if I REALLY wanted to visit your forum, don't you think I would have kept on being quiet about my identity there? I hadn't the slightest interest in posting anything there of substance. I just wanted to show you I could do it. So I did. It's over. I love this idiom "LOL". It's like I have found a new language. New way of thinking! NEW UNIVERSE LOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. I wonder hat it mean! Vas ist DAT OLOL LOL LOL LOL LOLOLOLOL. Could it be the key to Higgs mass? Pre creation matter? LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL.... The smallest division of 4 dimensional order? LOL LOL LOL. The transformation from 4 dimensional reality to 14 dimensional pre creation quantum reality! LOL LOL LOLOLOLOLOLOL LOL! The Blevitron! LOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL LOL! Oh ... and yes: he says: "I hadn't the slightest interest in posting anything there of substance." LOL Did he have anything of substance to post in the first place? LOL LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. The schemer (IS THAT HOW YOU SPELL IT IN LOL ?) lol. Ol' man river, Dat ol' man river He mus'know sumpin' But don't say nuthin', He jes'keeps rollin' He keeps on rollin' along. He don' plant taters/tators, He don't plant cotton, An' dem dat plants'em is soon forgotten, But ol'man river, He jes keeps rollin'along. You an'me, we sweat an' strain, Body all achin' an' racket wid pain, Tote dat barge! Lif' dat bale! Git a little drunk An' you land in jail. Ah gits weary An' sick of tryin' Ah'm tired of livin' An' skeered of dyin', But ol' man river, He jes'keeps rolling' along. [Colored folks work on de Mississippi, Colored folks work while de white folks play, Pullin' dose boats from de dawn to sunset, Gittin' no rest till de judgement day. or musical part] Don't look up An' don't look down, You don' dast make De white boss frown. Bend your knees An'bow your head, An' pull date rope Until you' dead.) Let me go 'way from the Mississippi, Let me go 'way from de white man boss; Show me dat stream called de river Jordan, Dat's de ol' stream dat I long to cross. O' man river, Dat ol' man river, He mus'know sumpin' But don't say nuthin' He jes' keeps rollin' He keeps on rollin' along. Long ol' river forever keeps rollin' on... He don' plant tater, He don' plant cotton, An' dem dat plants 'em Is soon forgotten, but ol' man river, He jes' keeps rollin' along. Long ol' river keeps hearing dat song. You an' me, we sweat an' strain, Body all achin an' racked wid pain. Tote dat barge! Lif' dat bale! Git a little drunk An' you land in jail. Ah, gits weary An' sick of tryin' Ah'm tired of livin' An' skeered of dyin', But ol' man river, He jes'keeps rollin' along!

I see no need whatever to keep replying to this guy_ as if he mattered! Taking RobertMBlevins seriously is where the problem started, years ago. Time to let the problem go. It is what it is and salves and manners aren't going to fix it. He wanted this forum_he has it! Let the skydivers deal with him. It's their website@! I dont understand the influence this guy has been allowed to have, and never will. It's like negotiating with a fish!

Dolly Varden of Provo, Utah writes: I like you. You remind me, of me. You remind people of a lot of people. But, how were you able to hold that heavy iron lawn chair over your head with just one hand, in a snowstorm, and what do you think that proved? Did you do this to get attention? What else that's heavy have you held over your head with one hand? Do you practice this? My Daddy says he thinks it is dumb but he isn't as strong or as smart as you are. You and Jo are my heroes! Is it true you were both on TV once and where can I see that? Yours truly, Dolly

Really? Okay. You really should NOT have confirmed that Galen registered as Coopersnoop. I was only guessing. And I wasn't talking about Bruce's Wordpress blog, but the alternate site created by Shutter. And here is why you shouldn't have said that: After Galen made his Porteous post filled with BS, he deleted that account and (as you say) re-registered with Shutter. That was to rid himself of his Porteous post and to avoid being quoted in the future under his real name. Then...after Galen and Georger saw my post at DZ about that, and how I addressed what Galen Cook said... THEY decided to do damage control. How? By making a rather pathetic attempt to establish that 'Coopersnoop' wasn't REALLY Galen Cook. The best way to do that is to make up two phony posts where Cook denies the Janet Fable (which he supported publicly in THIS article for the Utah Standard Examiner) and think everyone will be fooled. Of course it would have helped if Cook had not tossed in his digs on yours truly. Never mind. You'll figure it out from the attachment below, which was from the two of them earlier today. Screenshot taken under Fair Use rules. When people talk about credibility on a forum and then engage in that stuff, there IS no credibility. And thanks to everyone involved for not inviting me to the alternate website. Yes. I think I will stick with Dropzone for any Cooper posts. (*laughs*) Besides, I already took the screenshots from when Galen was posting under his REAL name, where he makes up stuff about Lyle Christiansen, Porteous, and now hints I'm a fraud, while making his latest phony post. I'm not stupid, you know. I'm beginning to understand why he was banned from DZ in the first place. What business is it of yours! ??? Who cares what you think - about anything! When you wake up tomorrow, Robert, you are going to find that none of your hand waving and none of your sermons changed a cat into Blue Fairy, or billfold into the Chase Manhattan Bank, and it will be just one more dreary day for you to fill up here at Dropzone ... since you have no real business to do! Good luck with that - don't let the cat know what you're doing! It might scratch and run too!~

Let's face it. You've been doing this type of thing to other people for a while now... And you ended up returning to that thread anyway. I actually feel pretty good about this. I no longer feel I'm being singled out by you. Looks like a lot of people got 'the treatment,' and long before I ever showed up here at DZ. Amazing! Did you know Galen Cook (or me!) in a former life or something? I knew Galen Cook for years before you ever came on this Drop Zone forum, and in all that time I never heard Mr. Cook mention your name once - not once! Nor did anyone else you mention know who you were. You literally did not exist! Then you come here and immediately its 'Galen Cook this' and 'Galen Cook that' and on and on and on ... and I remember this very well because even with you ensconced here posting liberally like you suddenly owned the place, Galen Cook had still never mentioned your name or said anything about you to me _ in spite of you almost daily bashing Mr. Cook, ... and I finally asked Mr. Cook: "Who is this guy RobertMBlevins". And do you know what Galen's reply was? Galen replied: "Oh he's some guy Porteous hired. Ive barely ever talked to him but I guess he doesn't like me for some reason". And the same of Gray and myself, and others and myself... concerning yawl! That is literally how it all started. What was there about Mr. Cook that tripped your venom trigger from afar, given that Cook didn't know you, and you didn't know him, and the two of you had never met or had any exchanges in Life before? The same question could be made about me! You claim to have a better mousetrap! Where's the mice?

I have seen these comments, and it's true some kind things were said. And I think the idea of an alternate site is probably a good thing. I never intending on doing any real posts on the new site, so it matters not to me whether you allow me or not. But...since you are the moderator of that alternate website, simply deleting someone's posts because they were embarrassed at being caught in an outright lie...now THAT I have a problem with. Shutter, you can't claim to be a good moderator when you allow people to dodge what they said by doing what I described in the previous post. Since you just started out, and I already have Cook on the record anyway, I don't see a problem there either. You probably shouldn't make a habit of picking-choosing when to agree to 'sanitize' peoples' posts for them, though. It looks bad. It looks dishonest. And we both know that's exactly what you did. Let me guess at the scenario. After I quoted over Cook here at DZ...he went running to you and wanting to delete his account under his real name and establish a new one under a username...while getting rid of the embarrassing post he made. Am I getting warm? Don't apply double-standards. If people post something, you should NOT agree to make those type of adjustments for them unless you are deleting their post for attacking, spam, etc. Agreeing to assist in 'covering up' is a bad thing. Where does it stop? That little game you and Cook played is a lot like Rose Mary Woods and the missing minutes on the Nixon tapes... Huh!? Cover up? Dishonesty!? Double standards? Attacking? Spam? Deleting their posts for attacking? Nixon tapes? Little games? Rose Mary Woods!? Adjustments. Embarrassing? I have seen these comments, and it's true? Any real posts on the new site? So it matters not to me? They were embarrassed at being caught in an outright lie...now THAT I have a problem with? Can't claim to be a good moderator. I already have Cook on the record anyway. A habit of picking-choosing. 'Sanitize' peoples' posts for them, though. It looks bad. It looks dishonest. We both know that's exactly what you did. Let me guess at the scenario. Went running to you. Wanting to delete his account under his real name. New one under a username...while getting rid of the embarrassing post he made. Am I getting warm? Don't apply double-standards. ............... Hey buddy! What ball game are you watching? Can you mind meld and tell us what the Martians are doing to the Zetans on planet Schill? You have a vivid imagination (or a sour grape fizzle)? And you keep repeating yourself (4 years now!) Crazy.

Reminds me of the Leroy Katko case. Leroy took his little brother down to a farm field one day where a farmer had an old car stored. Katko told his little brother to undo the gas cap, and light a match to see if he could see how much gas was left in the car's gas tank. The little boy did as instructed which instantly turned the boy into a crispie and paraplegic (for life). Leroy went on to a life of crime: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katko_v._Briney He eventually committed suicide. Katko's full name was Leory Marvin Katko, when we had him at the Oakdale Evaluation Facility.

Georger are you on drugs or are you always an ass? Answering a question like that is NON productive! NOW don't be offended because when I post after taking certain medication - I am often questioned about my intentions or state of mind. What I presented on the $20 is just "plane" common sense for 1971. Today - $100 bills do not mean a thing and does NOT send out an alarm. At auction time and race time in KY it would not be unusual to see multi individuals throwing around $100 bills. Think 1971 - how much did you spend on Christmas gifts? How much did a Best Seller cost? How much was your electic bill? How much did a nice dinner for 2 at Shoney's or another popular middle class chain cost? You GUYS forget what 1971 was like and the reactions a $100 got from the clerks. Raised eyebrows in a convenience store. A high end department store such as Macy's would not give it a second glance. This is all Cooper meant by negotiable and that is just my laymans opinion. Am I on drugs? Am I an ass? Am, I always an ASS ? Hmm. At least you didnt call me a BABOON! After taking medication? What does this DB Coopper thread have to do with YOUR "medications" ? Are we your pu8nching bags, physicians, or something? "A high end department store such as Macy's would not give it a second glance." ???? Have you been to a high end department store such as Macy's to see if they gave "it" a second glance? My opinion is: A Baboon would get a second glance at Macy's. Will call you me an ASSSHOLE! next? Because I'm not on medication? Do you bully people not on medications? Who in hell are you! To be bullying anybody, Mrs. Pretend Cooper!? And stop with the hang up calls to one of our phone lines! Jo you are out of control - again!

Making progress - Only 156,374 to go! (and someone here is an instant expert on them all!) Negotiable American Currency ~ Nonnegotiable American Currency ~ ? Negotiable Currency ~ nonnegotiable currency ~ ? No coins or gold bars ~ no pork rind or elephant tusk futures ~ ? "I need a really big brick of cash that's unmanageable and hard to haul around, to use to deflect bullets, and possibly land on - a big cushion that has flotation! I have a mule on the ground and rail lines with trains, and a boat, and a car with a trunk waiting, 40 miles away... I used to do the Olympic Marathon in slip-on loafers and a business suit... and belong to the Mickey Mouse Club!" Quote/Tina: "The money isn't important" and "I have a grudge" Unquote/Tina: "I am a real Comedian and a little sadistic, with a grudge! They will remember me! Nobody has done this before!"

Duane was obviously a very dedicated trouble groupie. JFK, RFK, MLK, DBC... Somehow he missed it when the Pope was shot. You gotta choose your continent. A guy cant be everywhere. Hey, dont be so skeptical, it coulda happened. As my statistical physics professor said: "Amazing coincidences do happen, but not very often. The more amazing, the less often." 377 I don't recall stating Geestman and Duane were friends....I am referring to the woman who Rode horses standing. Was she the one married to Geestman? If Geestman was her husband then maybe Duane knew him. I do NOT know during which yrs Duane knew the woman - but he talked about her and not her husband on our way to Seattle from Vancouver. WHY the HELL do you think I want to contact her - she might be the last living person who knew Weber! BUT no BLEVINS keeps that a big secret - I don't want to talk to her about Cooper - I want to know if she remembers Duane - I would like to know this before she dies. If she is the one married to Geestman then maybe Duane knew both of them. The only thing Duane said about Paradise is the BOYS used to stay there. So Parrothead - if I stated that Geestman knew Duane - please direct me to that post! I'm not going to go back and look for it, at least not right now. But a month or so ago, you made a post that implied that Geestman knew that Duane was the real hijacker and that he played dumb with the Decoded guys because he didn't want to reveal that Weber was actually DBC. I don't remember the exact quote, but it was something to that effect. You don't have to look for it. That is Jo's MO. She accosts every new poster that comes on here and either recognizes their style of writing or their avatar or their user name or whatever..... 9 times out of 10 that person has tried to contact her in the past or tried to scam her or tried to get all of her information or tried to whatever...... She tries to connect Duane to every single other DB candidate that ever was -- hedging bets so if Duane wasn't the actual man, he was the guy on the ground or whatever. I actually like Jo and I'm not dissing her. I have helped her with several things she has asked for and I will probably continue to do so as I see fit. I haven't a clue whether she was really legit when she first started this quest -- but I used to think that she at least believed what she was saying. But after a while you just have to say wtf. Hey, Duane Weber might even be DB Cooper. Stranger things have happened. But over the years Jo has just gotten in too deep and tried to connect too many threads. I mean come on...every flippin thing that comes up does not have to be about Duane. *sigh* Jo is also not above a little manipulation. For these reasons, whatever credibility she ever had has suffered. Yep, Jo tries to pull the dumb blonde thing, but Jo is not stupid. But she does have an agenda and for whatever reason will not admit that, in some areas, she is her own worse enemy. It could be a case of ... Innumeracy!

Duane was obviously a very dedicated trouble groupie. JFK, RFK, MLK, DBC... Somehow he missed it when the Pope was shot. You gotta choose your continent. A guy cant be everywhere. Hey, dont be so skeptical, it coulda happened. As my statistical physics professor said: "Amazing coincidences do happen, but not very often. The more amazing, the less often." 377 The book I always recommend is: "Innumeracy" by John Paulos http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Innumeracy_%28book%29 It is the best book on random probability in coincidence, for the lay person, I know of. Any of John's books are very good. Blue Fairy tells me John was once recruited to work on aspects of the Cooper case, but declined .... laughing. No amount of conjouling would bring him over ...

Jo, Since this has become your life's work and possible swan song shouldn't you reconsider dial up and go to something better? Fast internet access abounds and can be quite inexpensive. Bruce probably thinks you already have rooms full of servers, web crawlers galore and several T 10 lines. Maybe even an encrypted hotline to your "handlers" in Langley, Capetown and Quantico. 377 Jo is just trying to keep her career as an undercover FBI agent out of the thread. But she meets all the requirements for undercover work. She claims other people are covert agents, that she hates the FBI although actually working for them, etc., etc.. Bruce is probably right about her computer equipment. Robert99 What I find curious is she always complains about not seeing posts/images .... can't post images ... then two days later an image appears along with her post - over and over. Maybe she needs glasses? Jo go to the eye glasses rack at the drug store! Start at the bottom of the rack and work up ...

The plot thickens Jo. Bruce will be all over this. Did you know that Quade was tracked by USAF radar skydiving through AREA 51 airspace ***Seems as if the Cammo Guys were convinced by the Nellis ATC (which I read as Area 51 ATC) that although we had exited over the MOA that we had drifted into the airspace of Area 51 and that they could easily see that on radar. What? Our hip rings? You gotta be kidding me? Well, I guess they do have some pretty good radar up there Found this while searching for info on radar tracking of skydivers. It's our Quade for sure. http://www.futurecam.com/area51.html It's labeled fiction, but thats CIA SOP, something about "plausible deniability". I guess the CIA didn't properly coordinate the op with the Air Force. No prob. A call to Langley and Nellis AFB brass were soon apologizing to Quade and inviting him to the Officers Club for drinks. Q didn't even ask to see the captured flying disc or the embalmed aliens, as he had already seen the full report and didnt want to be perceived as a gawking tourist in Dreamland. Jo, can you get me a few of those CIA get out of jail free jump anywhere cards? I'll recruit Hangdiver, Airtwardo, Amazon and some of my other friends here to do an El Capitan jump. I'll even invite Snow. It can be his first jump. If they are good in Area 51 it should be a piece of cake jumping in Yosemite. 377 Funny. Quade ... the UFO alien! At least he didnt wind up housed - with the arc of the covenant - on Oak Island! Jo might be the only person able to get him out!

amazing! where did 'handles on the bag' come from? Brown ..... Paper ..... bag ..... (no handles mentioned)

In the late 1960s, an older guy showed up on my drop zone and said he wanted to make a jump. I asked if he had ever jumped. He answered, "Yeah, a few at a bunch of different drop zones." After he said he had a log book, I told him to get his gear on, bring his log book and to meet at the PLF platform. He came strolling over wearing some really old coveralls with cloth military wings on his chest. I did a double take because the wings had two stars on each wing. I'm thinking, "...yeah right, this guy has four combat jumps?!" Thinking he's a huge bullshit artist, I motioned to the wings and asked him, "Where did you buy the wings?" Well, he went ballistic. He was quite sincere...in his anger. I thought he was either one hell of an actor or he had actually made four combat jumps. He rattled off where he had jumped when I asked him. He had jumped at Normandy and had landed about a mile outside of Ste-Mère-Église. His body language told me he was for real. I asked him how many people had four combat jumps; his answer was something like, "I think there's a hundred or so of us still around." He continued to jump with me for years and I ended teaching two of sons to jump. We remained very good friends until he died about 25 years ago. At his services, his wife and sons had created a display of memorabilia with photographs, medals and letters from his time during WWII. I was humbled by what I saw. He wasn't a bullshit artist; he was a genuine airborne hero!! RIP, Walt Santman...thinking of you now makes my eyes leak. I didnt get my uncle called tonight but will tomorrow night. I will find out who the guy is he jumped with - the guy on the steeple. I could be totally wrong but I may have heard the name 'Walt' before. I will find out. I know my uncle and one of his sons Ricky (a long time newspaper man in this State), have attended a few reunions, one back about 1999-2000? They went back to EU with a group and toured cemeteries at Normandy etc. Let me make this brief - here are a few. Its headed to -20 here tonight so I need to make a 2:00am water pipe run ...