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Really? Where? Duane didn't leave anything that proves he claimed to be Cooper or knew anything about the hijacking! The claim in behalf of Duane is Jo! It's Jo's claim. Not Duane's claim! There is nothing from Duane Weber that proves or even implies he ever said he was DB Cooper or knew anything about the hijacking. If there is nobody including Jo Weber has ever shown the evidence .... because it does not exist. The claim is Jo Weber's; not Duane Weber's!

And you know this how? I see trees of green, red roses too. I see them bloom, for me and you. And I think to myself, what a wonderful world. I see skies of blue, And clouds of white. The bright blessed day, The dark sacred night. And I think to myself, What a wonderful world. The colors of the rainbow, So pretty in the sky. Are also on the faces, Of people going by, I see friends shaking hands. Saying, "How do you do?" They're really saying, "I love you". I hear babies cry, I watch them grow, They'll learn much more, Than I'll ever know. And I think to myself, What a wonderful world. Yes, I think to myself, What a wonderful world. It's the Amerikan Way.

Jo allow me to add some perspective. The issue is not my "engaging" Blevins or anyone else, but Blevins engaging all of us BY HIS WORDS & CLAIMS. In the latest example Blevins has announced actual DEATH THREATS AGAINST HIM in his home town of Auburn WA. I am sorry you are not getting "air time" but neither I or anyone else is responsible for that. Your stories/posts simply cannot compete with continual announcements-pronouncements of Mr. Blevins ... NOW ANNOUNCING ACTUAL DEATH THREATS BEING MADE AGAINST HIM FROM KOOPERLAND, at Auburn WA. I hope this explains the situation. You might want to defer to Blevins in this latest series of spectacular claims and accusations until more light can be thrown on his "death threats" and police interventions in his safety and behalf at Auburn, WA! Thank you for your attention and deference to Mr Blevins in this very important development which involves his personal safety, and the safety of all at Auburn Washington. Hopefully law enforcement will get to the bottom of this fast, for everyone's welfare. Then things may open up here for you to get the attention you used to have here - Thank you. G

Your draaaaaaaaaaaaaaamah is over whelm ing. Play it again Sam, in 2-4 time. DRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA MA!

Robert, I gather from this offer that you have rescinded your prohibition on me sharing Cooper info at the 2014 Auburn event. True? How do you suggest that I communicate with you about this possibility? As I understand from your last email to me, you are blocking my emails to you. I also seem to remember something about the Auburn cops getting warned about me and that pictures of me were being circulated to all the security staff and LE at the event in order to apprehend me, or at least keep tabs on me. I forget the reason, but has this situation also been resolved? First off, I've never blocked your email or PM's. I could check, but I'm pretty sure on that. I think the only person I ever blocked was BK. And the first time I offered you a speaking slot at the theater (a couple of months ago I believe) you said no. (EDIT: Truth is, I can't remember for sure if I did offer. I thought I did, at the time I offered to assist you in setting up that Kindle Publishing account for your book, but I could be wrong.) The time your pic was supposed to be circulated, we had death threats coming into City Hall from a pay phone. Two of them. No one knew who did it, although your name came up when the festival director asked me at our next committee meeting. I didn't know what to say, I was pretty shocked when she told me about the calls. The reason I was at a loss was because at that time I hardly knew anyone investigating the case, or fans of the case, and I was not yet educated about Cooperland. No one had contacted me previously except legit media, such as KIRO radio, a radio station in Wyoming, and a few others I knew. You were the only one who approached me in a slightly phony manner, and your later 'interview' (which only appeared at Dropzone) also contained references showing your displeasure because I wouldn't (at that time) reveal the names of the witnesses. As it turned out, I never actually bothered with your picture or even your name, except for mentioning it to the festival director. I did carry ONE picture of you in my back pocket, but that was just so I'd know who you were if you showed up. LOL...then I was going to take you aside and scold you for the 'interview' thing. As far as how it went, they just put a cop in the lobby because of the phone calls and nothing happened anyway. No one was looking for you specifically except me. (EDIT: After I met you at Ariel a few months later, I figured out pretty quick you weren't the one who made the calls. I just didn't see that behavior in your personality. I also talked to the festival director later and told her the same thing.) You can email me with your proposal, i.e. what you wish to present and I'll be happy to give you an answer. I don't have any real problem with you speaking, but like the other authors you should submit a short proposal on what your subject is about. (Most are saying, 'my latest book,' or similar) I think anything else on this we should discuss privately, not at Dropzone. But...think about it before you commit. Thirty minutes to fill is longer than you think. Don't commit if you are not going to show up prepared. If you don't need the whole thirty, you can go fifteen instead, but the speaking schedule will be organized beforehand because we have to print up programs showing times/names etc. Side Note: I haven't seen Vicki on here lately, but if you see her on the other site, send her my congrats on the nice ring and her upcoming wedding. That's pretty nice, I'll admit. The staff of AB sends their best. EDIT: I just checked my Gmail settings. Four filters (blocks) in place. None of them are you, or anyone else in Cooperland for that matter. One is a guy I used to know. The other three are persistent spammers. Oh the Draaaaaaaaaaaahma of it all! Spooks lose at nonCooper events threatening Bleeeeeeeeeeeeh vins in Awwwwwwwwww burn Washing. Ton. Secret death threats from pay phones! Blevins isn't clear - were the threats against him or Iotolah Cheknee Canoe? Or Goiter Hempoop!? Is Blevins now going armed with his .45? Is Danielle1010 involved? Lindsay Lohan? It's bigger than you or me - bigger than a breadbox! Cryptid in Auburn! It's time to call Bob! Cautions@ dont take Blevins while driving. All other drug precautions known to Mankind apply . . . DRAAAAAAAAAAAH MA DRAAAAAAAAAAAH MA Civil War Lyrics Dixie by Daniel Decatur Emmett | Civil War Music I wish I was in the land of cotton, Old times there are not forgotten; Look away! Look away! Look away! Dixie Land. In Dixie’s Land where I was born in, Early on one frosty mornin, Look away! Look away! Look away! Dixie Land. I wish I was in Dixie, Hooray! Hooray! In Dixie’s Land I’ll take my stand to live and die in Dixie. Away, away, away down south in Dixie. Away, away, away down south ... in Dixie. Frankly Scarlet. I don't give a damn!

Now come on...I know better. That wasn't the post I was referring to, and yes...I did screenshot it on the chance you'd try to weasel. Lighten up. Your discussion forum isn't the DOD secure website or something. It can be seen via your public library, or from any computer besides the one linked to my IP. My point was you made a big deal out of something, ('FINAL WARNING!') and then proceeded to break your own rule. I won't post up the screenshot at DZ. I was going to, but I decided against it. But we both know what you said. Matters not to me all that much, but you should at least be honest with YOURSELF. Actually, I thought my last post was mostly about the camping trip and getting hold of Bruce Kitt at NWA for certain answers to particular questions. Georger says in part: Because I asked about it. Because he was directly involved in the research for the test jump later. Because....(other reasons not mentioned) Figure it out. If it had to do with NWA, and it was critical, you can bet Paul Soderlind had a hand in it. Yeah, yeah. I was the one who mentioned it, so in your mind it must be wrong. LOL. You have a lot of nerve with the remainder of that post, which I didn't quote over. Soderlind was one hell of a smart guy. I'll bet no one's ever established an educational fund in YOUR name. Other Soderlind stuff. Same suggestion: I would contact Bruce Kitt at the NWA Museum and ask if he knows which other members of NWA were on Soderlind's team. Assuming any of them are still living, you could contact one or more of them and ASK if they had a hand in the creation of the flight map. This is not brain surgery and Kitt is available via email. I would do this again myself, but I think it should be second-sourced. On a side note, I contacted Geoff Gray today and asked him his CURRENT opinion on KC. I will post up his reply when it arrives. Hey! Did Noah and the Arc actually hit an iceberg? You can tell us! Ask Danielle 1010 through your contact at Houdini.com.

Now come on...I know better. That wasn't the post I was referring to, and yes...I did screenshot it on the chance you'd try to weasel. Lighten up. Your discussion forum isn't the DOD secure website or something. It can be seen via your public library, or from any computer besides the one linked to my IP. My point was you made a big deal out of something, ('FINAL WARNING!') and then proceeded to break your own rule. I won't post up the screenshot at DZ. I was going to, but I decided against it. But we both know what you said. Matters not to me all that much, but you should at least be honest with YOURSELF. Actually, I thought my last post was mostly about the camping trip and getting hold of Bruce Kitt at NWA for certain answers to particular questions. Georger says in part: Because I asked about it. Because he was directly involved in the research for the test jump later. Because....(other reasons not mentioned) Figure it out. If it had to do with NWA, and it was critical, you can bet Paul Soderlind had a hand in it. Yeah, yeah. I was the one who mentioned it, so in your mind it must be wrong. LOL. You have a lot of nerve with the remainder of that post, which I didn't quote over. Soderlind was one hell of a smart guy. I'll bet no one's ever established an educational fund in YOUR name. Other Soderlind stuff. Same suggestion: I would contact Bruce Kitt at the NWA Museum and ask if he knows which other members of NWA were on Soderlind's team. Assuming any of them are still living, you could contact one or more of them and ASK if they had a hand in the creation of the flight map. This is not brain surgery and Kitt is available via email. I would do this again myself, but I think it should be second-sourced. On a side note, I contacted Geoff Gray today and asked him his CURRENT opinion on KC. I will post up his reply when it arrives. Oh. OK! I had no idea you and Houdini were communicating with Solderlind. My apologies. Be sure and let us know which "hand" Solderlind used - hand in it - right or left hand. SMART GUYS! Say hello to Scott for us. He's dead too. SMART GUYS! All dead. Blevins sees through the veil! Blevins KNOWS! (more than you do). ITS TIME TO CALL BOB!

"Plot" generally refers to putting the individual data points on something, such as a preprinted map. The data was numeric, a list of latitudes and longitudes for specific times. The list was likely on that wide "line printer" paper that used to be used around mainframe computers. This is probably what it would be if they used one of the "Q7" computers to do the calcs. This is most likely because the computations would have been repetative. Also, they probably had done the same kind of "track" computations for numerous past incidents. They could just use a program they had already developed. But the list could have been on notebook paper or the like. NWA would have had people who could do the plot if the airforce had given them the coordinates/times. But I think the airforce would have plotted it themselves. It would not have been the FBI that did it. I am almost certain that Paul Soderlind and his team at NWA had a hand in creating the map. Since Soderlind is deceased, you could try finding out who else was on his team at NWA and contacting one of them. Also...try shooting a question about the map to Bruce Kitt at NWA History Museum. He may know some details, if NWA was involved. He may also know who was on Soderlind's team. He's associated with just about everyone and anyone who ever worked with NWA, especially if they were a bigwig in the company. As far as the new suspect, I may do some checking. Looks like whatever problems Jo had in viewing the alternate site are solved. Camping Trip: We had a lot of fun. Target shooting, photography, etc. River down below was flooding again, although not too bad. Some roads were covered though, and restricted to one lane of less-deep water. The pictures attached of the clearcuts (they are all over the place up there) show why. I was going to post up a picture of yours truly and Greg the Techie Guy target shooting...but some readers here would have whined. That one goes on my blog. EDIT: Hmm. Let's play 'Guessing Game' for a moment. You try to guess WHO made a hard rule on a website saying 'there will be absolutely NO discussion about Robert Blevins' etc etc ad nauseum...and then posted this on the same site where he made the rule: Well, he's either talking about Geoff Gray, or he can't follow his own 'Last Warning!' rule. I have some small advice here. If you're going to pick on me regarding KC, you should play fair and do the same with Geoff Gray. Not only is his best-selling book heavily about Christiansen, but he even begins the book with entries on Christiansen. He's also the first guy to ever publish an article pointing AT Christiansen. Equal time is called for here, without a doubt. Remember that everything we did regarding Christiansen was based first on Gray's original research and his contacts with Skipp Porteous. Blevins says: I am almost certain that Paul Soderlind and his team at NWA had a hand in creating the map. Wonnerful a wonnaful. How? And now we will hear from the Lemon Systhers! Take it away .... Sam. uh one anna two anna . . . . Ol' man Solderlind, Dat ol' man Solderlind He mus'know sumpin' But don't say nuthin', He jes'keeps rollin' He keeps on rollin' along. He don' plant taters/tators, He don't plant cotton, An' dem dat plants'em is soon forgotten, But ol'man Solderlind, He jes keeps rollin'along....

The explanation with the map says positions were obtained from the USAF radar plot. I think that was the "FBI" flightpath plot. There are 2 of the positions plotted(D & E). The adjacent two aren't marked but the flight centerline goes through them and leads off N and S toward the next two points. All precisely as shown on the "FBI" plot. So does 'USAF radar plot' mean data, or a map the USAF had made ??? What form of data would the AF have used? Visual? Numeric? Any idea?

Ok, so is the NWA map a computer generated map using whose data set? It sure looks like an old DOS plotted map to me! Yes I know its overlayed on a La Center Quadrangle map ... And what data format would the digitally recorded data have been in? Could it have been transmitted over a telephone line to NWA?

I'll have to check with Bruce for confirmation. I attended the Portland Cooper Symposium with my spouse so I wasn't paying as close attention to Marla as a lot of guys were... but I never saw Marla engage in any inappropriate provocative behavior. Just a smile. No "butt twisting" Jo. If you are going to demean Marla you should have some evidence to support the "twisty butt" claims. 377 How did the SAGE system get its data to a map, or in some form to plot on a map ... and what was the data format(s) used? Any idea?

I already did. And I didn't 'chase' anyone off. They voluntarily went to Shutter's site. Some of them are posting there because they've been banned by Dropzone. And you sir...after all the shit things that come pouring from your mouth about me, what makes you think I would bother answering you, especially publicly? Are you kidding me? Not only that, you believe you can ask me anything and everything anytime you wish, and I will just go public with answers. I don't seek your approval, nor do I care what you think you deserve. Are you Danielle 1010? Oh! What were Geestman's and Kenny's genetic haplotype?

Hey, guess what Mr Wizard. You are right. I showed Geestman the print copy of Gray's KC article...(wait for it now) ...and then things Skipp Porteous and I had already run up on Christiansen which I printed up for the interview. (wait for it now) In the file folder I carried...(wait, it's coming to you now)...containing... The comparison picture, Kenny's final bank statements, Lyle's statement to us, other stuff. This is what is meant by 'other things that point to KC'. Not the contents of the Gray article, with which I am quite familiar. LOL. Get real. Aren't you being missed somewhere else? You know there's a very simple way out of this, but it's the last thing YOU would ever do - #1: Get Gray to issue a statement that your words and thoughts represent his - and #2: Get a similar statement from Geestman. Then all problems with who said and meant and thought what is clearer? And the role of deceit and misrepresentation is removed? Aren't writers/editors like YOU supposed to strive for clarity? You get real for a change, and STOP telling everyone else to get real! ? You're the guy with the problemo. Uh...you do have a grasp of the concept known as 'reading comprehension,' right? I already explained it to you once. It's right there above your quote. Your attempt to put words into my mouth is pathetic. Make sure you warn everyone in advance when your next post won't be about ME. We wouldn't want any users here suffering a heart attack out of shock, LOL. Must be hard on you that Shutter issued his Prime Directive against bringing my name up on the alternate website. No wonder you drop by HERE, since practically your every post at Dropzone has to do with me. I would call it an obsession. And if you are going to persist in calling me a liar, I'd appreciate at least one proven example...or stick it your hat please. But you are the only one posting here! You have it all to yourself, after chasing everyone off who could not match your bluster. Now. Address the points I brought up. Stop the diversions, reversals, straw men, and other machinations you use to avoiding answer simple questions related to FACT. Aren;t you up to the task of answering questions - from a Baboon!?

Good work Jo! Amazing... Blevins' quote referring to Gray's article gives himself away when he says: quote Blevins: and other things that pointed to KC, I've read Gray's article and seen the same photos and I can't find anywhere where Gray says "and other things that point to KC". Gray never uses those words in reference to Kenny or makes such an allegation at all! Those are Blevins' words! It's just one more critical example of where Blevins puts words and thoughts in other people's minds they never said at all! Those are Blevins' words and thoughts - not Gray's! It may very well be it was at this point, Blevins describes above, where Bernie realised what Blevins was up to, and the full implication of Blevins' deceits. Blevins even describes it! quote: " he turned white as a sheet right there on his front porch." Blevins' attribution to Gray above is just one more deceit. Blevins never gets anything right because he's always too busy and compromised with his own deceits! Shame on Blevins. Why Geestman ended the subject very abruptly was something he saw in those pictures, but only Geestman and his wife KNOW the answer to that. I was aware of Geestman's statement & the pictures he viewed. Decided to unload my thoughts on the subject as Blevins promotion of his book became extremely frustrating. Did the Geestmans KNOW who Cooper was? I believe after the incident in 1971 they may have had suspicions. Their encounter with Blevins was life altering & age was catching up with them - but, both Geestman & his wife stopped all conversation with Blevins? If what Blevins wrote about Geestman turning white & ending the conversation after viewing Greys book WAS true then, what in that BOOK made Geestman END his conversation & further participation in the subject? Was there something in those 4 pages of picture that screamed at him - STOP! Suddenly Margaret sells her ranch & he made sure No one could contact him. He is not listed as a resident or homeowner in the area Blevins claimed. He had a P.O. Box and even that is NO longer active. Poof! Seems to the operatis modem for anyone who claims to know who Cooper was! What was on those 4 pages other than multiple photo? Did it become evident to Geestman - that he could be implicated if he even recognized any one suspect? Was it the notariety the book would cause & the interuption it might create in their lives? Lots of reason Geestman ended the communications with Blevins! Maybe he suddenly felt the need to make a trip to the men's room. Keep in mind we only have Blevins' word for all of the above. Turning white ... ? So far Blevins' word turns out to mean nothing.

Hey, guess what Mr Wizard. You are right. I showed Geestman the print copy of Gray's KC article...(wait for it now) ...and then things Skipp Porteous and I had already run up on Christiansen which I printed up for the interview. (wait for it now) In the file folder I carried...(wait, it's coming to you now)...containing... The comparison picture, Kenny's final bank statements, Lyle's statement to us, other stuff. This is what is meant by 'other things that point to KC'. Not the contents of the Gray article, with which I am quite familiar. LOL. Get real. Aren't you being missed somewhere else? You know there's a very simple way out of this, but it's the last thing YOU would ever do - #1: Get Gray to issue a statement that your words and thoughts represent his - and #2: Get a similar statement from Geestman. Then all problems with who said and meant and thought what is clearer? And the role of deceit and misrepresentation is removed? Aren't writers/editors like YOU supposed to strive for clarity? You get real for a change, and STOP telling everyone else to get real! ? You're the guy with the problemo.

Good work Jo! Amazing... Blevins' quote referring to Gray's article gives himself away when he says: quote Blevins: and other things that pointed to KC, I've read Gray's article and seen the same photos and I can't find anywhere where Gray says "and other things that point to KC". Gray never uses those words in reference to Kenny or makes such an allegation at all! Those are Blevins' words! It's just one more critical example of where Blevins puts words and thoughts in other people's minds they never said at all! Those are Blevins' words and thoughts - not Gray's! It may very well be it was at this point, Blevins describes above, where Bernie realised what Blevins was up to, and the full implication of Blevins' deceits. Blevins even describes it! quote: " he turned white as a sheet right there on his front porch." Blevins' attribution to Gray above is just one more deceit. Blevins never gets anything right because he's always too busy and compromised with his own deceits! Shame on Blevins.

If Geestman and "That Woman" comes up harmed ... we'll know where to look.

Totally agree. Is good enough for you and your readers. Maybe some anthropologist will find you in 1000 years and win a phD off your work! You might get a footnote, on one atom of quartz! Good night Ivene -

Well Great One, your panning of the Janet fable, socalled, once again reveals the abysmal swamp of wrong information you broadcast from, to the world your empty nothings and smut .... You claim to be 'monitoring' the new Cooper site but you failed again to see the new Janet NEWS! Go back and re-educate yourself. I mean, every dictator should at least be informed of what his chosen enemy is doing- saying! Be a good boy and go back and get yourself informed! Because you are vital to the progress of poor children needing books and being taught by yourself how to think and not think, according to your windy claim!

Shutter - I would no longer reply to the Great Blevins! Nothing you say will matter anyway - he has an Agenda. Just let him wallow in his self righteous abyss. Have a good day!

Stop. You're scaring me. It's a publicly-accessible forum. I'll view anytime I wish. From the library, my friend's Iphone, whatever. I think the general public will see the hypocrisy involved here. You made a big deal about establishing a fair and honest site, and then the first thing that happens on that site is you allowed rampant lies to be published to the site. Then you complained that I didn't address those things directly...while at the same time you made sure I had to go public just to make my complaints known. It is hypocrisy at it's best, or worst, depending on how you look at it. I will be using those screenshots of Galen's posts in my article, since they fall under Fair Use...which means they relate directly to the substance of the article and make a point. Good luck with the DMCA. D.R.A.M.A. First of all, I feel that the behavior of the aforementioned poster is childish and shows a lack of emotional maturity. With that being said.... Robert, do you have Cook's contact information? Address him individually. It is not a moderators' responsibility to verify if the information is truthful or full of lies. If it was, Quade would be spending ALL his time here. If you have an issue with someone and what they are saying about you..go directly to the source. Crying, whining and talking about your personal life in this forum gets you nowhere and is pathetic. So go on...write your Newsvine article, call the local news, make a video and throw it on YouTube, call the FBI and complain that Cook is a meany poo-poo head. The general public is waiting to see the hypocrisy!! hy·poc·ri·sy noun 1.the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform; pretense. In behalf of Aamazon, Matt, and Myself - well saide!

It doesn't matter. What matters is why I did it. So I could see the lies some of your users post...and RECORD them for future use. Unless you have something to hide or whatever. I thought you were all about the truth and stuff. Apparently not, I think.

It doesn't matter. What matters is why I did it. So I could see the lies some of your users post...and RECORD them for future use. Unless you have something to hide or whatever. I thought you were all about the truth and stuff. Apparently not, I think.

Since you keep posting this information, Smoke, I'm gonna keep asking: "Where do you get this stuff about Tina??? Can we access it, too? It's dyn-o-mite!" Please share. It's all in the record - no magic wand needed. What record? Actually....you might need a magic wand to find it. Before the age of computers, NWA had a habit of purging paper files every few years. You can find out more about this by contacting Bruce Kitt at NWA History Center. Actually No! Where do you think Smokin got it all - from the thread! Duhhhhhhh. Smokin reads the thread, keeps track, much to your disliking. Smokin is a 'normal' person! So Bubba ... read the thread. Youve been being told to read the thread since the day you arrived clear back in 2010. Smokin has a different agenda than you have.

Since you keep posting this information, Smoke, I'm gonna keep asking: "Where do you get this stuff about Tina??? Can we access it, too? It's dyn-o-mite!" Please share. It's all in the record - no magic wand needed.