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Actually, it was two nights camping. And yes, I did interview a witness and some of the witness' family today. That interview, and any possible information obtained from it, is confidential for now. You should know this. We've had this policy in place for months now. Nothing personal, it's just the way it is. The Elvis sock puppet troll sayz: I was wondering also why you never speak up about Georger's insults, or his posting of idiotic song lyrics as a 'response,' or Bruce Smith's sexual innuendo comments. Why? Because he's not going to feed your ego or your sock puppet troll - that's why! Besides, I post quality material. You post lies and mindless junk and smut. What business is it of yours? You're just jealous! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZzYmC7TS84 If I believe that destiny could change the hands of fate i'd believe forever was a lonely to wait but i can see inside your eyes mirror's soul cannot tell lies and i believe like i believe miracles and destiny you make your own reality and i know when i........ look up to the sky there's angels in the clouds at night you can see their eyes see the stars lookin down how i feel at the thought of you leaves me with nothin to hide cause when im layin next to you naked my pride i can wait a lonely time i would wait and wouldnt mind cause i believe like i believe miracles and destiny you make your own reality cause i know when i i look up to the sky there's angels in the clouds at night you can see their eyes see the stars, lookin down oh whoa... if i believed destiny could change the hands of fate Id believe forever was a lonely place to wait i can see inside your eyes mirror's soul cannot tell lies and i believe like i believe miracles and destiny you make your own reality i look up to the sky there's angels in the clouds at night you can see their eyes see the stars lookin down.... ohohhhhhh lookin down lookin down down

Her behavior is relevant because it points away from a search for truth and more into the land of I Want a Big Contract With Random House instead. I haven't a clue why the the FBI claimed LD was the most promising suspect. Why don't you ask them? Why ask me? How the hell should I know? I am finished with any minor investigation I may have done on Marla Cooper, and no longer interested in checking her story further. Quoting: Danielle1010 wrote: ***'You haven't responded to any of my other posts i would like you to respond to them'. Robert says: I think I did. I was gone for a couple of days camping. My email is adventurebooksofseattle AT G Mail. Robert99 says in part: It's a film script. Thousands are created worldwide every year. And why would you want to hear anything from me anyway? LOL that would be a first for sure. As far as 'silence' if you have a question, feel free to drop it on me. The only subject I won't discuss is the ongoing investigation into Christiansen. Maybe later. Not now. Any NEW personal functions today you need to tell the world about? Tell us about Marla and Nova Scotia.

Jo, Might you be confusing correlation with causation? Nobody is going to be murdering people in 2014 over Norjack issues. Take the bullets out of your gun. Stop living in pointless paranoid fear. 377 Well...hmm. First off I actually know the people we're going to meet. I got a phone call up in the high hills from Gayla saying they had called and might want to meet tomorrow instead of Sunday. So I packed it up and headed home. For a meeting spot I picked out what I consider an appropriate place. For some weird reason I always thought KC had gone there a few times, and it happens to be the same place where I took the very first picture in my investigation of Christiansen. No...not his old house. Another place and it doesn't matter anyway. I never published the picture. Anyway, I got two nights camping up the Skokomish River and that was pretty nice. Ha...funny thing to go camping on the Fourth of July holiday for two days and then still make it home in time for the fireworks.

The title says it all: Blevins Doesn't Care What You Think. So why should anyone care what he thinks or says? Blevins has surfaced in the Cooper affair to literally confound people with his claims, quotes, attributions, not to mention his personal attacks! And literally not one thing he has ever claimed has turned out to be true. Blevins' work is the work of a troll. Many people have just switched the channel (to listen to raving lunatics elsewhere or get some well deserved silence!) Blevins' latest attribution to Rataczak: 'we know where he jumped, we just don't know where he landed', is pure nonsense taken out of context again, as Blevins always takes things out of context. It's just the latest example of Blevins using something someone supposedly said, taking it out of context, and claiming something someone never meant. The statement above may in fact be an alteration of something Rataczak may have said, in some context. The statement is empty in any event, because knowing where somebody has jumped can easily lead to a landing zone - its a simple calculation. That fact alone renders Rataczak's claimed statement, absurd. More profoundly, Blevins is citing Rataczak as if Rataczak was the only person on flight 305 or involved in the Cooper hijacking who knows anything about this matter! That Rataczak's quote trumps all other testimony from others, leads only to a further absurdity. If Blevins could find some other person's quote which trumps Rataczak's supposed quote, Blevins would be using that instead! It's business as usual in Blevinsworld. If you want to know what really happened, read the thread here, or come over to Shutter's site where Blevins' BS is not allowed.

No...my Dad is Cooper...I can put him in a chute... Hey, around here you just never know... hangdiver Sheridan Peterson never left the list - not so sure about Braden. Nice parchment on your Dad. Mine went in '38. Mom in '39.

Will the American Civil Liberties Union come to Bernie's defense against Blevins and Gayler and Nelder and Page, and your new witness the Rina de la Ranger ? Does your canoe have a paddle ? Do you have a license to practice Persecution?

That's all well and good, although some of your statements are more opinion than fact. And I hope you do well investigating KC. Realistically though, you should not expect any help from me, or for me to verify or comment on anything you discover about his possible involvement in the hijacking. Your worries are for nothing regarding Christiansen. We know a lot more about the situation on him then we did 120 days ago. I noticed that Georger dodged the question about whether he warned Bruce Kitt (or asked permission) to post Kitt's private phone comments on the internet. I have to assume by his non-answer that he simply played a dirty trick on Kitt and then embarrassed the guy to boot. At least when I interviewed people I asked permission to video or voice record them, and told them I was taking notes for an ongoing investigation. The only exception to this was the first fifteen minutes with Bernie Geestman. But beyond that point, he knew what was going on...and why. I got to pack. I will return on Saturday, but I have to go to a party when I return over at Greg's. Maybe we will take a look at your site and have a laugh. Five bucks says I see serious posts there from some of the same users here you keep leaping in to defend. Users who come to Dropzone simply to empty their trash on others... Sour grapes of course. I notice you havent called me a liar this time - you havent attacked the information - so you attack my 'permission'? So Hypocrite Blevins: who gave you and Producer Kagin "permission" to hide and bypass Kitt's information freely given to Meltzer from appearing on your "staged and manipulated" Decoded show on Kenny Christiansen? Packing - leaving? Well of course you dont want to discuss it! Doesn't Jo call this: "Sneaky snake" ? Did you have Kitt's PERMISSION to hide his real feelings and information when it counted... while also cherry picking a few of his remarks an calling it "testimony!" to make it appear he supported your theory that KC was DB Cooper, for the purpose of producing a favorable Decoded program with you a major player? You say "we don't know you" ? Will the real RobertMBlevins please stand up? (oh! There he is! The guy sneaking out the exit under cover of darkness...)

I didn't say I was dropping the investigation into KC. That was obvious. I said I couldn't provide any new information at this time. And I don't see anything in there that provides new info. BTW: Did you warn (or ask permission) from 'Bruce Kitt, NWA Historian' that you planned to post his private phone call comments online? You know...yesterday I posted up a lengthy comment you made back in 2008 on another Cooper thread. But then I thought it was a tad vindictive and took it down. You can see it if you wish, but I'm actually going to ASK you first if you mind if others see it. Warning: The post makes it obvious that your smarmy attack-dog comments are nothing new, and that I am not the first person you've engaged in this manner. Just the LATEST one. Kitt. Yes or no? View post. Yes or no? Easy questions, even easier answers.

I discussed this point twice with the Seattle FBI, and at that time they were actually returning phone calls and emails. (These days they do it by email mostly) Kept getting the same answer, one from Gutt, one from another agent. Gutt also confirmed that Christiansen has NEVER been investigated or 'vetted' by the FBI in the Cooper case. Neither has the DNA comparison been done from the sample Lyle Christiansen provided to the Minneapolis office agents who visited his home. To put it bluntly, not a single FBI agent has ever explored a single piece of evidence presented on Christiansen. Or bothered to question even ONE of the witnesses we provided for them. We already know why. It's because these days they want the case handed to them on a silver platter first, or they're not lifting a finger. I guess after forty plus years and no more money in the Cooper budget I can understand this attitude. Which only made us decide to work harder. Reason given by SOME agents in Seattle why Kenny isn't a suspect: They say he has a level of expertise in skydiving above what they believe the hijacker had, and they think he doesn't the fit the description. That's it. No investigation. No 'vetting'. We (AB staff) say that due to what has been presented, and what will be presented in the updated report, that this is not enough to dismiss him offhandedly. Shutter: I have read your comments back there. It's amusing to see you complaining about me 'no longer answering questions on Kenny' when you're the same guy who decided to block our office computers from even VIEWING your website. Yet...you jump over here to Dropzone at will, commenting on my posts HERE. The last one wasn't even directed at you, but Robert99. Are you like his lawyer or something?

Just saying.

Sohhhhhhhhhhh ? What ? ___________________________ ? If you know where he jumped you know the radius within which he had to have landed ? Duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ? Play it again Sham Wow Blevinaide.

Just saying.

georger... I have actually seen a jackelope. I was boony tromping one night deep into the Picacho mountains in Arizona in my old desert runner...Datsun 1200...of course I was looking for DB Cooper...I saw 2 Jack rabbits that I mistook for deer. They were loping across the dirt road in my headlights. These things were about 3 feet tall loping on all fours with ears 12 inches long. Seriously...the next day I asked our DZ building contractor who grew up there about them. He told me I was real lucky to have seen them and yes they did exist up in those mountains. My friend who was with me called them "jumbo jacks". True story. hangdiver I know what you're talking about - my sons and I have a few to our credit using a .222 or .223 ... We brought a pretty large one into the bar at the Los Abrigados in Sedona one night several years ago and got a rise! .... Tom Kaye probably eats them! ... they run like the wind! These are actually hares: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hare They have 48 chromosomes (44 for a rabbit). Damned things are unbelievable but a lot of fun. The DNR here in Iowa tried to introduce them to southern Iowa (south of Unionville-Blakesburg, but for some reason they didn't take ... disease, coyotes, and other predators including Man.) You would think they would thrive here but I think they are genetically tuned to a drier more sterile environment ... But you can count on everybody and his brother being out hunting for them wherever they are introduced ! Some people consider them a trophy animal which is not good! Thanks! G

It's strange that we now question things, and all of the sudden new parts are adding to the story that hasn't changed for years...probably more people who "disappeared", or claim everything is true without backing anything up except the word of the alleged person. they call them "reruns" on television. same old tune. Well, I'm willing to wait and see what Robert comes up with. However, if it's just someone who "corroborates" the other witnesses, that doesn't really help because none of the witnesses were willing to say Kenny was the hijacker. Now, if this new witness can actually put Kenny on the plane, then I trust this information will be forwarded to the FBI. A jackelope is a jackelope no matter the claimed new witness! Four years of NEW-NEW-NEW SO-CALLED NEW SECRET INFO WHICH always proves bogus info is enough! Blevins is a bunch of people calling themselves Adventure Books, an offshoot of something called R&G Housecleaning, who are engineering this production aimed at capturing (or hijacking) the BD Cooper info market. It's a circus of people who evidently can't do anything better!. When they get the Pulitzer for contributions to the DB Cooper case somebody wake me up! I'm no longer interested in their yellow territory marking of Dropzone. Hopefully they will come up with Lyle's movie script soon! And that will fall like Humpty Dumpty too. And all the King's horses, and all the King's men . . . . . couldn't put the RobertMBlevins jackalope together again. Maybe they will take on the JFK assassination next?

I can't talk. Someone is listening.

If that's true, Robert, why limit it to just Christiansen? If you can't trust this site, how can you post anything about any other suspect? It was several months ago you decided to not respond to questions about Christiansen. Then, the reason was you wanted to wait for your presentation. Now, it's that nobody can be trusted. You were ok with posting for years with the same type of response on this forum, until people started looking into your claims and found inconsistencies. Now, you refuse to back up any of your claims. That's not the way someone who's just looking for the truth would act. I don't mind discussing the case in general, but I've put a freeze on releasing any new information on Christiansen, or speaking about anything contained within the new 53-page document on him. There are several reasons for this, but one of the MAIN ones is the alternate website. I refuse to release anything new that will simply be picked up and discussed over at a site where my IP was banned. We're not talking about posting or participating, but simply being able to view what is being said about anything released. This was an easy decision because frankly I no longer trust some of the folks who post here. And that's too bad because there has been a major development in the case against Christiansen. To be fair, I guess I should offer something limited. Someone has decided to come forward. This is a person not mentioned at Dropzone, in the book, or the earlier version of the report on KC. I have spoken to this person several times over the last year. This person has seen the new document on Christiansen and is in a unique position to verify whether its basic allegations hold water. This person will be meeting in-person with AB staff members very soon and has agreed to allow sound recordings and notes. Best to move this to an undisclosed location where drones and spies with IR audio detection and vis cameras will not be an issue - very likely AB Books is under surveillance. Detach all of the water pipes so sound can't travel along them for recording at a remote location. Beware of all white and black vans and helicopters above. Coordinate with minimal spy satellite coverage from above which transmits to the VLA array. Someone I know is on the VLA network! If they can hear ET they can hear you! You can run but you can't hide!

Lots of 'maybes' and no answer. I wouldn't call embarrassing the man 'doing him a big favor'. I'm guessing from your cutesy and dodgy answer that you probably didn't inform him you intended to post up his phone call comments publicly. No worries. I did it FOR you. He has a right to know. Instead of looking at any truth in this matter your first impression is to go running and tell all. you set off a 4 alarm fire to all of your witnesses, now you go running to Kitt. run forrest run....were you the hall monitor during school years, or the teachers pet in all your classes? Now, speaking of dodging. I seem to recall the value of the stamp collection was originally $400k, then it went to $300k, followed by you claiming it was an extra zero was added in an email that caused the sum to be incorrect. you haven't explained the $400-$300 difference? that's not an extra zero. Lots of maybes, and no answer is what you live by Robert. isn't it an embarrassment claiming a house paid for cash that wasn't, or documents clearly labeled wrong sent to the FBI? $16,500 for the house, no wait, $14,500, nope, Komo news states records say $14,000. does anyone have an answer? "No worries. I did it FOR you. He has a right to know." yes, so why is it a problem for the truth about KC? doesn't everyone have the right to know? keep in mind before you answer with your slanted view crap that the very people you claim to be slanted were the ones who found the mistakes in the first place. Please don't preach to me what I owe you or whatever. You're the guy who pre-banned me from your website and blocked messages. I don't owe you a thing. Sorry I don't go by your 'everything is a public thing' rules, but that's just me. Fall back on your oft used words HATE and LIAR. Those words will probably appear in tonight's Blevins' Action News. Fact: Kitt says straight out Kenny would have been recognised by one means or another especially if they were looking for Cooper amongst NWA employees. Kitt says, quote: "It was always my understanding the FBI and NWA looked at NWA employees". Fact: Kitt says he told Meltzer 'I don't believe KC was Cooper'. Kitt says Meltzer passed that on to Kagin and she "threw a cow". Kitt says this was avoided/ignored in the filming which made his contribution superfluous. Kitt says it was obvious to him all Kagin and presumably you were after, was a preordained engineered result. I will hold the rest in reserve as a 'control' should you go so far off the rails as to warrant .... MORE FACTS & REVELATIONS! You can keep dragging this dead horse "Gee its been a BLAST cuz I pretend KC was DB Cooper" if you want. Movie script? Screen play? Who but you cares! I'm just kind of curious to see just how far you can drag a horse ... so by all means "do it for me"! Just remember this: years have passed since you started this farce in 2010 ... more than enough time for others to be interviewed about your claims vis-a-vis their socalled "testimony" so while you were beating your chest and playing games here on Dropzopne others were interviewed ... and it ain't lookin too good for you Bobby@! Plan to spend at least another four years here defending yourself. That's the writing on your wall Blevins, in case you haven't read it being a "Legend in your own Mind"! Welcome to the real world, RobertMBlevins! Drag that dead mule another mile. I know you have it in you!

Lots of 'maybes' and no answer. I wouldn't call embarrassing the man 'doing him a big favor'. I'm guessing from your cutesy and dodgy answer that you probably didn't inform him you intended to post up his phone call comments publicly. No worries. I did it FOR you. He has a right to know. Ok Blevins. Do as you like. Followup email after our conversation included your posts and urls to Dropzone and Shutters site as well as others so Kitt could see my post(s) as well as that of others - We plan to talk again. Got any other questions, smart ass ? Kitt's problem is not with me. It's with you and people like you, media spin artists, and the like. I will just take the rest of the info to the other website and avoid your inquisition - I guess this means you won't be leaving Dropzone in August as previously announced! Now you have something to kvetch about and make accusations over ... for another FOUR YEARS! Luckily Mr. Kitt gets to go on with his life! With or without Adventure Books and Rev. RobertMBlevins - whatever he chooses! Remember Blevins., it is you using Kitt's socalled "testimony" every chance you get! That leads to the $64 dollar question: what all the other socalled "witnesses" going to say when asked about what you are calling their "testimony" ? Who gets to pick and chose what is testimony? Only you!? Any schmuck can play that smutty game!

I'm going to answer your question because if you had looked back on this thread, you would already know the answer. When I got the initial report on KC, it included a letter from his brother. The letter indicated the collection was appraised at $40,000. I (yes, ME) mistakenly added an extra zero to the manuscript, and a few other places. A few months ago, I was on the phone with Lyle and asked him if the collection was appraised at $400,000, how much did he actually GET for it? That's when he corrected me. He said it was appraised at 40K, but the family received about 30K after auction fees, etc. This correction was addressed in the recent PDF on Christiansen. And a 40k stamp-coin collection could be actually worth 1/10th of catalog = $4,000.00 ... or less! It all depends on the contents, the market, and the buyer. appraised price on stamps is usually catalog price using Scott's catalog etc. Coins are evaluated by different catalogs. Georger, APS I will remind Blevins he peddled $400,000 with vengeance here for years! Rubbed our noses in it, refused to answer questions about it, as absolute unimpeachable PROOF Kenny had wealth beyond his means, in addition to his realty transactions, yada yada yada...

There is more, but specific to the Cooper case which I am sharing with others in the background. Sooner or later we will be posting about that. I do need to mention all of this may be a distraction for Mr. Kitt. I have the definite impression he never intended to get into a full blown controversy over KC or the Cooper matter, all of this being far down the ladder in his attentions, as Curator of the NWA History Centre. I appreciated him taking the time to talk to me. Well, we've all watched the Decoded show...and we've all seen what Mr Kitt said on that show. He is ON THE RECORD with that. So he did say what I previously quoted. So...if Kitt is saying these different things now, then why didn't he say them while the cameras were rolling? You can't blame ME for him not stating his real feelings on the whole matter, you know. When I asked him recently about his appearance on Decoded he didn't go into such details. He said perhaps they had taken some of his comments out of context, and that was about it. He didn't really specify. When I spoke to the Decoded cast, I had no such problems. They asked questions, I gave them the best answers I could. I would also (gently) remind people that Mr Kitt was not working for NWA at the time of the hijacking, (he told me this on the phone) and we also know that the FBI has previously admitted (via Himmelsbach) that airline employees were not only never investigated, they weren't even considered for investigation. I will agree with Kitt that Cooper is a bottomless media pit, though. That is for sure. The real tragedy here is that Georger would post these things publicly and embarrass the hell out of a nice guy like Kitt. You forced him to admit he went on national television and agreed...against his better judgment...to say things he either knew weren't true, or was pressured into saying. Either way, the only victim here is Kitt. Nice going. I took my name out of your subject line because I had nothing to do with his appearance on the show, or anything he said on the show. Cooperland...nothing stands in their way. They eat their young occasionally.

I didn't get into that with him. At the outset of our conversation, trying to place things in time and context, I did say it was my understanding he was headed out to Washington to take in Blevins' presentation - he replied, "well Im going to Seattle", but he didn't clarify the purpose of his trip, whoever is going with him, and he did not mention or confirm or deny 'going to see Blevins'. I didn't pursue it further because he starting laying out his views on KC, Decoded and what had happened during the Decoded filming etc, ... and I just didn't bring it up again, him going out to Washington etc. It's his business where he goes and what he does. Our conversation was long and by the end of it we both had things yet to do, to finish out the day.

There is more, but specific to the Cooper case which I am sharing with others in the background. Sooner or later we will be posting about that. I do need to mention all of this may be a distraction for Mr. Kitt. I have the definite impression he never intended to get into a full blown controversy over KC or the Cooper matter, all of this being far down the ladder in his attentions, as Curator of the NWA History Centre. I appreciated him taking the time to talk to me.

Somebody, who says we don't know him, who goes by the name of RobertMBlevins with 5300+ posts here at Dropzone, posted below several days back, as follows: "Christiansen hijacks the plane, and during this time makes sure no one on the flight crew except the stewardesses get a look at him. This was probably one of the biggest risks Christiansen took, i.e. that he might be recognized by another NWA crew member. However, Bruce Kitt, the curator of NWA History.org has testified that if Kenny Christiansen mostly did the Orient routes, his chances of being recognized were probably slim. He testified on-camera about this on the Decoded program." [RobertMBlevins Jun 20, 2014, 8:05 PM Post #53801 of 53802 (68 views)] So, I called NWA historian Bruce Kitt. Mr. Kitt flatly disputes he ever meant what Blevins is implying he meant, above. In a word, Kitt says from his experience with Blevins and producer, Marisa Kagin, 'the whole thing was preconceived, and they didn't film me saying or allow me to say, what I had told Brad Meltzer'. (2) 'Brad Meltzer called me to arrange my flight for the filming in Seattle and I told him I did not consider Kenny Christiansen a viable suspect, or that he was D.B. Cooper. I explained why. When he told the producer what I had said, she "threw a cow". When the filming was done they never asked anything other than general questions, and they just avoided the issue of whether I thought Christiansen had been Cooper, and what I had told Brad Meltzer. It was pretty clear to me the whole thing was biased with a preconceived outcome in mind. It was a media event and they didn't want facts'. (3) 'I never meant to say that Kenny wouldn't have been recognized', as Blevins is now saying. What they filmed me saying is not "testimony" of any kind, as Blevins is putting it. He is twisting my words on the one hand and ignoring what I told Brad Meltzer in detail, on the other hand. The whole thing is a media bottomless pit.' (4) It's always been my understanding that the FBI and NWA looked at NWA employees. I know this doesn't agree with what Blevins has been promoting. NWA had its own internal Security system in addition to the FBI. (5) Mr. Christiansen was well known, a long time employee. He doesn't fit anything in the Cooper profile no matter whose profile you use. Thank you, Bruce Kitt, NWA Historian.

You don't know me. You've never even met me. You make a lot of assumptions. Basically, you are trying to call me 'stupid'. (Unfortunately, you get the role of 'Otto' here, not Jamie Lee Curtis.) That's great, professor. Hey...check this out. When you reach more than FIFTY books edited for others and create nearly FIVE HUNDRED illustrated articles viewed by a ton of folks, both done over the last seven years...then you can stand in judgment on how unintelligent I am, or what I am capable of. Trust me. I didn't just fall off the apple cart. EDIT: I will agree that it's too bad that Porteous and Gray didn't work together on Christiansen. But maybe that's what happens when two different people are working on two different books and using two different sets of information. That's the way it went, and there is no changing that now. It was left to me to go around and interview all these people. This was my first time working on a possible criminal investigation, but NOT my first time doing interviews. I've done plenty of those, and had done so for a long time. But when you discover that some people are lying to you, and others are being truthful, it can be tough to winnow out the final result. The only thing I can offer is that I have reached a point with Christiansen...no matter what others say...that the basic truth on him CAN be determined with a little effort. It's never been about money, or whether I got some things right or wrong. It's always been about the end truth regarding Christiansen, and seeking that truth has been a long and convoluted road I assure you. Have YOU always been right? I have a posting from you on another website from 2008. In that one, you name Duane Weber as the most likely suspect (at that time) and have money going down the Columbia River to Tina Bar at double-quick speed, according to your calculations. (Fifteen miles in five minutes) And many other things you aren't saying now, like where Cooper landed, etc. I made that post into a Word doc. Would you like to see it? (Not publicly. I'm not trying to embarrass you.) Generally, I'm pretty nice to most folk. But on the rare occasion I come down on someone, they usually deserve it and it ends up like THIS. I have a sense of humor too....

Now that's a valid question for a change! Why not move on. You are unable to! But you are vested. Not to mention neurotic as hell. However you do demand some attention and knocking that down has its own merits and demerits. You keep pushing - they keep pushing back. It's your story; someone is bound to want to examine it and if it is junk then knock it down. That's human nature. In the end you have no control over others as much as you would like it! It's a big world out there Bobby. Second; move on to what? As the Cooper case currently stands its damned near Undecidable and thwarted by no opportunities for new real evidence. Gray's book didn't help much. Kaye's work is over most people's heads with no opportunities for peer lab work which might give Tom's work clarification/direction. That's not Tom's fault! Into the void of Cooperlandt you fell. Plop. There was nothing else going. The interesting part is it could have been Gray and Porteous, not you and Porteous. Gray could have taken Kenny's story further without much extra effort, but he chose for some reason not to. Gray may have decided Kenny was not a viable suspect and there were bigger-better challenges waving 'Hello!". Lyle wanted a movie deal from Day One. What the public wants is the REAL D.B. COOPER, and not some phony substitute. Have you contributed anything new? No. Somewhere out there is the real Dan Cooper, with real facts, and his story. Made up substitutes just aren't going to cut it. Some kid may have the dedication and the brains and the luck to find him some day, after doing millions maybe even billions of genetic comparisons just to establish a line of inquiry which yields collateral hard evidence ... or maybe never. That is a level quite above anything you have pursued to date or are even qualified to pursue. It's not a criticism; just a fact. What the public wants is the REAL D.B. COOPER, and not some phony substitute. That in itself is some kind of Trust some decide is worth serving.