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OK. Will look into it as soon as the bar closes - You ?

I believe there is a logic that works through the Cooper case. One event requires other events to occur, logically. The money at TBar requires that the money landed first, in its bag, and made its way (with Cooper) to the area of the Columbia. Since Cooper has the money and is in control of the money bag, in order for money to appear elsewhere later, Cooper must land also. Cooper and the bag landed together intact. The money bag and Cooper are together and must move toward the Columbia together in order for money to ever wind up at Tena Bar. At some point Cooper loses control of the money and now Nature is in control of the money (bag). All of this is logically (mathematically) required - connected . . . at some point money winds up on Tena Bar probably due to natural events (natural availability) and some human intervention which could be dredging . . . those are the 'bounded' logical connectives. Very simply: in order for money to be found at Tena Bar, the money and Cooper must have landed safely first. Its as simple as that! Those bounded logical connectives. What are bounded harmonic functions? (A function f : Zd → R is said to be bounded if there exist M ∈ R such that for each x ∈ Zd, |f(x)| < M.) Zd is said to have the strong Liouville property if every positive harmonic function is a constant function. (A function f : Zd → R is said to be positive if for each x ∈ Zd, f(x) > 0.) by TJ Kaczynski · 1969

I say again its too God damned bad the Treasury Dept Forensic Lab didnt get to have a say in this matter. Too late now!

What further dredging was done and where on what dates - by whom and where were those dredging spoils dumped ? If you dont have a report that is specific then this is all conjecture. The Bechly report is specific except for details about where and how much tonnage was dumped across from the Fazio property on the Oregon side. Salvage people went down and talked to the FBI and the Corp folks during the 1980 excavation and were told about this 'mystery location' across on the Oregon side. So after the FBI pulled out people went down and explored both the Fazio property and across the channel on the Oregon side, but nothing unusual was found ... according to several sources. Later Tosaw divers explored wing dams on the Oregon side and at one of those wing dams a socalled 'flare parachute' (or whatever it was) was found in debris, which was photographed and published in area newspapers. I dont remember what diver that was - Curtis Rainey maybe? That's all I know.

What are you saying ? Have you got new information that adds to the BECHLY report?

ok. wonderful. that solves that Cooper mystery!

Military ordinance people (bomb experts) I had read the FBI transcripts came to the same conclusion - in a nutshell they said 'either Cooper was trying to impress on some knowing eye that his bomb might be real, or it was real'. The people I consulted focused on the wiring Tina described. How could Cooper have known he was showing the bomb's contents to an electrician's daughter who would focus on colors of wires and trace their connections in addition to describing the brief case's contents in detail ! ? The average person would probably not be able to do that with clarity ... anyone is free to duplicate this experiment using experts - anyone!

Had the FBI shared what it had with the Treasury Dept Forensic Lab in Washington, in 1980, in addition to sending money samples to their own Lab, and simply asked the TDFL for an opinion, we might know more about the history of the money today than we do. By 1980 he TDFL had already dealt with thousands/millions of money samples sent in for analysis and exchange, that they might have been able to identify Cooper money features associated with a specific money history ... based on their huge inventory of samples and their experience. That never happened. Cut marks and abrasions etc seen on the money are associated with some specific history. z money 2k k unsharp mask.bmp

I would ask him: based on everyone he's ever talked to about this case, how do you think the Cooper money got to Tena Bar ?

Another negative against whole bag being deposited at TBar is 'where did all the rest of the twenties go'! and nobody ever saw so much as a hint of money on Tena Bar until the Ingram find. Either all of the money was buried out of sight, or ? There are also these reports of fist sized clumps of organic matter (none of them bagged for analysis!) .... which could be anything. Dorwin keeps saying these clumps could have been decomposed money ? It may be a loss that Lars Larson was never interviewed - he interviewed divers and salvage people and has probably heard every theory anyone ever expressed ... these are people who had no vested interest in the Cooper case but did have a few opinions based on long experience with the Columbia and related matters. All of that data and knowledge has apparently been lost unless somebody can find and interview Mr. Larson if he is still alive? I place a large value in what ordinary working people know and think. I come from that tradition. A number of those people went to Tena Bar during the excavation with their boats and talked to FBI diggers based on their vast experience with salvage work and the Columbia ... and there is nothing from those exchanges, so far.

Cooper searchers and consultants pre and post 1980 and the Ingram find - Tosaw is not on this list. The people listed largely ignored Tosaw . Some of the people listed were either consulted by the FBI and interfaced with the FBI during its excavation in 1980 ... or went to Tena Bar by boat or car and engaged FBI diggers during the excavation. In any event this list of people had a professional long time interest or involvement with the Columbia River - some voiced their opinions publicly about how Cooper money might have wound up on Tena Bar. Some of these people had professional relationships with Dr. Leonard Palmer and knew him well.... Divers and search teams: *Aquatic Sports – Portland, John Powelson (deceased), Jeff Powelson Portland 1966 to present. Powelson journal of searchers and searches lost after his death ? *Walt James… long time Columbia salvage consulted with Portland FBI/Himelsbach. Salvage and related People: Sid Macken – “Black Water”. History of diving Columbia, Historical Diving Soc., Santa Barbara CA 805-934-1660 *John Glen – found parachute back in 1972 on Mt Hood ? was judged not Cooper’s. *William Carpa *Glenn Rassmussen Lars Larson FM101 talk radio … KXLFM101 – impossible to get. Followed and catalogued Columbia private searching post Ingram find and along with John Powelson kept a log of people's searches and results .... ran a radio talk show and interviewed a number of people about the Cooper case and the Ingram find ... may have believed that the money at Tena Bar was related to 1974 dredging ... (the above is just a partial list!) Tosaw divers – crews: Dates: . . . Curtis W Rainey, Debra Rainey, Bob Rainey, ‘Rod’ Rodney Rainey. All pro divers. Blake Payne Galen Cook Tosaw Crews: 1982-85 ran two crews: Curtis Rainey lives in Idaho, Debra Rainey, Jamie Winkle (acquired divers), Blake Payne had new boat with sonar, Bill Sweeny owned a boat died 2017 auto accident, checked wingdams and dragged main channel etc, Worked closely with salvage operators relying on their experience and advice ...

It would be hard to imagine a rubber banded bundle of 3-5 packets remaining together for that journey. .......... unless they were in a bag with the rest of the money and the bag or part of the bag was transported to TBar, in some fashion. Post Ingram discovery, the whole area including all of the wingdams were searched by various divers operating out of Aquatic Sports at Portland, including the whole area at the junction of the Lewis and Columbia. The owner of Aquatic Sports kept a log of various people reporting their searches but after he died that log was lost (according to his son) so there is no way to even known the names of all of the people who searched and reported .... and apparently the FBI at Portland did not keep a log of searchers phoning in results to them ? Tosaw was not alone among people searching the Tina Bar area post Ingram-find. Tosaw pestered the Portland Office constantly for any 'news' following the TBar excavation ... the office got tired of all of his phone calls asking for the latest info ... I dont understand why people are so resistant to accept the obvious suspect! The dredging in 1974 which dumped spoils at Tina Bar close to where Ingram money was found. Its almost as if there is some agreement to avoid that actual event - at all costs! The 1974 dredging that placed spoils on Tena Bar is THE DEAD HORSE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD - DUHHHHHH! ??? Its amazing to me how people ignore it and avoid it at all costs, starting with Tom Kaye!

If anyone thinks they are going to get a social-psychological profile of Cooper based only on the drink he ordered at the start of his tenure aboard 305 - guess again.

Yepper - ten bags full of coincidience! Cossey was also friends with bears, geese, dogs, cats, tree mice,k and polar bears! Keep workin them angles Sim King .......... Have you seen Elvis lately and Roy Rogers ? How is Tonto ?

All kinds of people knew Cossey - he was school teacher, a member of a large area church, past member of the School Board, a member of the country club, and on the area casino Board, and a public figure! Did Slim's suspect 'know; the King of England? I doubt it. Who cares! Not relevant!

If you missed FBI Parts 80=87 they are available here: https://vault.fbi.gov/D-B-Cooper ?b_start:int=80

DNA fingerprinting was first used in forensic science in 1986 when police in the UK requested Dr. Alec J. Jeffreys, of University of Leicester, to verify a suspect's confession that he was responsible for two rape-murders. Tests proved that the suspect had not committed the crimes. The 1970s saw the development of a technique known as DNA fingerprinting, which uses restriction enzymes to split DNA into smaller fragments that are then sorted and visible on a gel. This technique was first developed by British geneticist Alec Jeffreys. https://www.uniqgene.com/post/when-did-dna-testing-start

And what difference does any of this make in the case? None? This looks like a pissing contest.

It is Galen Cook who claimed corners of Cooper bills had been found on TBar in the Fall of 1979, prior to the Ingram find - he went on a talk show Coast to Coast with this. Cook claimed the finders were two teenage boys fishing on Tena Bar . . . and the corners were found north of the Ingram find. Cook further claimed something about a conspiracy using corners of Cooper bills ............ ??? ................ I dont recall the details of his conspiracy theory .......... also, Reversed area on FJ's posted image corrected as per below

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More Gong Show hysteria. GET THIS GUY OFF THE STAGE!

*Regarding the fact that the money itself was remarkably well preserved, Professor PALMER advised that sand is sterile, and in nature, is probably the best preservative of any soil. (Palmer)

Once again the same age-old problem .......... people making shit up. It just never ceases. I hope Slim is having fun spoiling the water so no one can drink! .

How does it explain the money find ? In the 'throw bag into river' scenario 10,000 twenty dollar bills are being distributed into the river. Odds are some of it will turn up somewhere. Throwing the money into the Columbia sets the odds to result in a Tena Bar money find. In your theory there is no guarantee, not even a probability, that money turns up on a sandbar of any river at all. The sandbar money finds requires that the money had to be in a position to wind up on a sandbar, in the first place! Money being found at TBar is no accident but a causal fact requiring previous steps.