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Fact: this is post 15008

one can make fun of lyrics in songs (Doors) But: at times it empowers us. It's kind of scary thinking how we're a mix of the rational and the irrational. There's power in both.

nigel99 mused "Jo I can guarantee you this: this hallowed thread will never see the bonfire. However I do believe this thread is pretty close to hitting the recycle bin." Nigel: I can guarantee this thread will never hit the recycle bin or the Bonfire. You're wrong.

So, half the time you do not know what they are posting. During that time, you are not smoking crack. During the other 50% of the time that you do understand, you are smoking crack? I understand. I thought you guys are supposed to be able to deal with chaotic out of control tumbling, and pull reserves, regardless if you understand what's going on or not?

Beautiful Snow! Truly one step beyond. These days with individually addressed screen pixels viewers would recognize scan synch video problems. I used to interrupt my younger brothers TV viewing by inducing vertical roll or slewing the horizontal oscillator and making the same announcement you made above. I used video synch to establish my position as the alpha dog of a four boy pack. 377 377 All I know, I learned from television. I didn't realize there were multiple openings...see http://www.innermind.com/outerlimits/info/olopen.htm OL #1 There is nothing wrong with your television set. Do not attempt to adjust the picture. We are controlling transmission. If we wish to make it louder, we will bring up the volume. If we wish to make it softer, we will tune it to a whisper. We will control the horizontal. We will control the vertical. We can roll the image; make it flutter. We can change the focus to a soft blur or sharpen it to crystal clarity. For the next hour, sit quietly and we will control all that you see and hear. We repeat: there is nothing wrong with your television set. You are about to participate in a great adventure. You are about to experience the awe and mystery which reaches from the inner mind to the outer limits.

377 said "Welcome to the Internet Jo. Haywire always wins on the Internet when it goes up against competing demeanors. That's just the way it is on this Petri dish. " People want to believe that. I think what's more true, is that people had ways of interacting and thinking, and they were never tested. When tested (here on the internet), they find they are weak. So they blame the other. If one's philosophy and mind were strong, the internet wouldn't affect anything, right? (edit) by example, the notion that there is a "win" What would "win" look like here?

I don't see how my posts are any less useful than others. Let's compare. Someone do a "good" post.

I thought it was odd seeing a report about the CIA promising "revenge" for the recent deaths. A more sane point of view is this one: "The war that is going on between the CIA and the bad guys in this part of the world is a real war," says Tim Weiner, author of "Legacy of Ashes: The History of the CIA." "The CIA is targeting them with missiles fired by drone aircraft and they are taking their revenge in the way they know best -- which is to kill the people who are trying to kill them. ... This attack is one of the consequences of using targeted killing as a weapon of war." "The Soviet Union during the Cold War, the Cubans during the Cold War were able to run double agents against the CIA very successfully," says Clarke. "But for a non-nation state to be able to do this -- for the Haqqani network of the Taliban to be able to do this -- represents a huge increase in the sophistication of the enemy." Or not. It shows more that the US is arrogant when it's got technology on its side. Doesn't see how simple it is to convince people the US is the bad guy, and how exposed they could be with just one "right" guy believing that.

Oh and one more thing. Jo: you're a nut case.

she suggests "there is no need for constant useless gibberish" This thread is all constant useless gibberish. That's the insight. That is all it is. And we're all fine with it. It's like dying. When you're dead there's nothing else. There's nothing else to this thread, no matter how hard you try. So this thread is like life, just constant gibberish, and we're all fine with it (because what else is there?) (edit) It is a good thing if new people don't come here. I consider it a public service saving them from themselves. No thanks needed. (edit) the flip side would be Ckret the Evil Sith Lord, suckering straightforward people into bullshit. (edit) That will be $5. duaneweber@paypal.com. At least some of us are making money off this. Now that makes sense. Hey, you know you're more likely to be arrested and charged if you do something for political or terrorist reasons nowadays. (or even suspected political: witness Zazi). Its safest to say the only motivation you have is economic. "I did it for the money" ...click your heels and you'll be out in a couple of years. Xe/Blackwater can use that to good effect if things go bad: no political ideology: we just did it for the contract for the customer. Jo warned "Aren't you a little OLD for that stuff?" ..You're only too old when you're dead.

Jo said "Snow - you used to make good posts and the you just went haywire - and that set the trend making it hard for the serious posters to work around you." No, I'm right on now. You gotta be able to say "Snow, he's just fucking out there!" I'm in training for the heli insert. Plus: Jerry's going to be shooting at me on the extract. How much better can it get? (edit) in contrast: you say "ANKLE rubbers make sense too" or: "emory cloth" in the bag. Now who's more fucked up? emery cloth? (edit) I was just at an airport, and saw a guy getting a shoe shine. He was dressed all dapper like, with a bowtie, suspenders, suit. Weird. fit the word "dandy". I have a mental image of a vest and spats, but that can't be right. I always wonder what kind of guys get shoe shines in an airport. I was reading an account of a journalist who was held captive and interrogated in Iraq. He talked about how he was blindfolded and could only look down, and how most Iraqis had cheap plastic slippers, but his torturer had leather slippers. And he could swear they were polished.

that interphone I posted is an old 747 interphone. I'm guessing the 727 interphone was similar. Northwest Orient just started using 747's at the end of '71 I believe. But the picture of it, got me wondering why they didn't get prints off the interphone.

Amazon said "Half of the time I don't know what the fuck they are ranting about." Amazon: are you saying you understand anything that anyone is ranting about here? Who? I can't understand anyone!

I am in charge of all serious posters as president-for-life of the CSG. I will determine when this thread goes to the Bonfire. I will control the horizontal I will control the vertical I am not allowed to name the names of the serious posters, though. (edit) taking wagers on who has the first post on page 666 (edit) example of serious post (by Jo) "then the serious posters such as Sluggo and 377 and others will have no place to air creditable information ...Sluggo - that guy still says McCoy died and that you are McCoy."

Just found out through Citizen Sleuth Group contacts: Duane Weber prints were found on the phone Duane used to talk to the cockpit. The prints were wiped by the FBI, however, and the evidence hidden until 3 days ago. The phone was found by a slingshot manufacturer, in the FBI evidence vault. Picture attached. Anyone familar with 1971 era 727 cabin phones can confirm. Farflung? (edit) as you can see there are 5 black buttons, the red button, and the R button? I can't make out the Directory. Which button do you push to get the cockpit?? (edit) reminder: Duane was familar with buttons from when he took the backyard photo of Lee Harvey Oswald.

The FBI is working with the public to find Cooper. Himmelsbach believes that Cooper may have jumped near the Washougal. The FBI has released never-before-seen details.

does anyone know what kind of food they brought on board in Seattle? Was it an assortment, or just chicken dishes? (edit) Farflung has reported that Duane was vegan. Maybe this is why Duane didn't eat any of the food?

From the same site: Captain on Motor Yacht GREY GOOSE said... The FBI knows who "D.B. Cooper" is but cannot locate him. I know who he is but have never seen him since a week before the hijacking.. I think he is out of the country working for an employer who can protect his identity. Following the money will NOT find "DB" but its for sure would make your journey through life more enjoyable... :-)

The Utah Guard HALO may have been where Duane requalified? Also this confirms that Duane had Vietnam era jumpmaster experience. from http://greygooseadventures.blogspot.com/2009/11/38-years-ago-northwest-airlines-flight.html Who was Cooper? 'DB' was a highly skilled ex U.S. military jumpmaster and professional ATR commercial pilot. He had heavy aircraft and FAA operations knowledge along with the military parachuting experience. Did he survive the jump? I believe he did - he had the skill (Vietnam era jumpmaster) and recent experience - a Utah Air National Guard unit made a 'halo' requalification jump several weeks previous reported seeing a 'DB' look alike during this 'hop'. And what happened to the loot, only a small part of which has ever surfaced? I can only guess it was discreetly passed into world money circulation using international distribution to prevent targeting. Or was it 'splashed' or 'burried' in an attempt to through the 'heat' off track? Where has "DB" been all of these years? I believe he has been working in retirement overseas undercover as a flight operations consultant for organizations able to pay his 'price' on his 'terms' ..

meat eating? That's not been discussed. Was Duane Weber vegan? We've never discussed that. What did he like on his hamburger?

Farflung. I think you're going to test the moderator's patience because you're bringing up stuff that has already been addressed in the thread. As I noted here more than a year ago http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=3426831;search_string=dancer;guest=65182582#3426831 Now let's focus on new stuff. Jo: so your belief is that Duane Weber was Dan Cooper? Do I have that part correct?

we were talking about polar bears. Here's a nice site where they're tracking an Arctic wolf pack. It's dark 24 hours, and they're wondering how they can hunt enough in the dark to stay alive. They're tracking a couple of the wolves with gps collars http://internationalwolfcenter.blogspot.com/ quite an amazing map of "Brutus" on the site. Longest travel was 80 miles in 84 hours. Cumulative distance from July 8 to November 30 is 1683 miles. estimate 23-25 wolves in the pack (a couple of night photos at the site) Don't shoot the wolves and eat their livers either! "The collared wolf is wearing a GPS/ARGOS collar. Unlike the VHF radio collar, which is still widely used to locate animals and birds, the Global Positioning Systems (GPS) collar "listens" to the signal from a satellite and can calculate (by triangulating its own location) precisely where the animal is. The data are stored in the collar. Those data include location, time, date and movement. With a GPS/ARGOS collar, the data are sent to another set of satellites (ARGOS) which then sends the data to a computer. The system can be set up to record information at intervals predetermined by the researchers. The ARGOS satellite system sends the data via e-mail, usually a couple of times a week. " Picture of an ARGOS collar here at the manufacturer's site: http://www.lotek.com/argostrack.htm This technology was not available in 1971, but Duane may have had access to secret satellite research he may have manufactured and launched himself. (edit) and for the schizos out there: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIUZbA1bxnE&feature=related (remember: schizos count as multiple readers, so skew the readership distro)

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL - G. 1787 1097 1439 1721 1583 1277 2081 1871 2137 1637 1499 1327 1933 1187 1871! (we're under heightened posting security rules here)

Two guys dressed in leather chaps with cattle prods showed up at my door and said "You've been served" and handed me this. I told them immediately "It was Duane Weber!" Sorry I cracked so quickly. UNITED STATES OF AMERICA Department of Homeland Security Transportation Security Administration SUBPOENA DUCES TECUM YOU ARE HEREBY COMMANDED BY THE ADMINISTRATOR, TRANSPORTATION SECURITY ADMINISTRATION, UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY, to produce and permit inspection and copying of the records described below to Special Agent Robert Flaherty, TSA Office of Inspection, Transportation Security Admininistration, 580 T G Lee Blvd, Suite 610, Orlando, Florida 32822 (Phone #: 407-563-4096), email: Robert.M.flaherty@dhs.gov, no later than COB December 31, 2009, in furtherance of an official investigation: All documents, emails, and/or faxsimile transmissions (sic) in your control possession or control concerning your receipt of TSA Security Directive 1544-09-06 dated December 25, 2009. IN TESTIMONY WHEREOF, the undersigned, an officer designated by the Transportation Security Administration, has hereunto set his hand in the county of Arlington, Virginia, this 29th day of December, 2009. Dan Kuntz Senior Counsel – Civil Enforcement Transportation Security Administration U.S. Department of Homeland Security AUTHORITY This subpoena is issued under the authority contained in 49 U.S.C. §§ 40113 and 46104; and 49 C.F.R § 1503.3. Any person who neglects or refuses to produce records in obedience to this subpoena is subject to fines under Title 18, United States Code, imprisonment for not more than one year, or both, 49 U.S.C § 46313.

Attached is a picture of the TSA at work. There's a delightful "Joe Bubba" look that the object of their investigation has, that I'm sure you'll appreciate. (edit) Although, I'm sure you'll point out, there are no Bubba's in CT. He could be Satan, though. Either way, they're on the case. caption: "TSA Special Agent John Enright, left, speaks to Steven Frischling outside the blogger's home in Niantic, Connecticut, after returning Frischling's laptop Wednesday. Photo: Thomas Cain/Wired.com" (edit) one of Frishling's phone numbers in his iPhone was called "ICEMOM". "The agents misunderstood the acronym and became suspicious that it was code for his anonymous source and asked if his source worked for ICE — the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement." That has no connection to me. http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/12/dhs-threatens-blogger