snowmman

I was thinking of a phrase I saw recently, talking about the rush of going from "dying to flying". Reminded me of probably the only time where I've instantly transitioned between a thought of "Well, I'm dead"...to "No shit, I'm going to live!" I don't know if that instant transition of thought happens in some emergencies in jumping. I suspect yes. (thinking about it now, there were a lot of things in my mental state that led up to the situation. You could say I was setting myself up for it hours beforehand) Mine was a stupid mistake on my part. I wasn't really being really stupid...just stupid for conditions. In my car, snowing, snow on the road, passing a 18-wheeler on a downhill...going slow, but a banking right turn up ahead, I 360'ed, (edit) (in reality, 180'ed I guess..I always think of it as 360) and started going underneath the rear trailer (between the two sets of wheels). That's it, I thought: not much you can do to react, because of the snow..But then my windshield smashed against the bed of the trailer, and I bounced off in slow motion and went into a snowbank. I can still remember the intensity of that transition of "I'm dead" to "No I'm not"...that and sitting in the snowbank with snow coming in the broken windows, thinking I needed to get a jacket on. No panic. No magic thoughts. It was just like flipping a light switch. Was still a little dicey making sure things didn't snowball into something worse, but it all worked out. Partly for that reason, my current ride has all-wheel drive :).

377 said "Snow, you havent responded to my photo a few posts up. You can ignore it, but inferences WILL be drawn. " ah! pretty cool. it was a link. Yes, on the internet, no one can tell when you're 8 years old. Or a dog. Woof, Woof! On Georger's internet,....hell I can't even picture what Georger's internet would be like..I'm picturing maybe a lot of stewardesses in leather, based on what he's posted, but that may be wrong. Maybe just one stewardess?

I suspect we all could post suicide stories that would get everyone all EMO...but what's the point? Or: the insenstivity of others? Is this a Gorilla related story or ?? ...My fingertips sweat, as they curl over the keyboard...the words, the words, where are they....suddenly they come in a rush a blur...too many to type...have to get them all down..not sure which are needed..what if I miss one, what if no one reads this post...I block out thoughts of failure... I block out thoughts of Donna...no wait, that's a good thought...fingers are slipping off the keys...where's the @..where's the @! damn got it...can't be much longer, must have enough words by now? maybe just a couple more, just in case...breathing is getting shallow...slow down...can't fail if I type on the exhale...just type on the exhale...got it! Click: Post Reply

Farflung: I know your story is fake, because people puke when they skydive, and there is no puking in your story. I learned that on the internet.

funny! 377 said "When I accuse Snow of listening only to half of what I say I am 100% right unless I post an odd number of lines." Did you notice how Orange1 demonstrated she could read a post I made, where every word was scrambled? first and last letters were correct, but internal letters were reversed. (edit) What does that say about Gorillas? That they are endangered like polar bears and shouldn't be shot! You actually don't even need to make a post...just bump the post # and we'll know the message: Duane was Cooper!

I was watching those vids of the two guys who jumped it illegally during construction. They only jumped at 650M? So it's not been jumped at full height? (edit) is top of spire 828 m (2,717 ft)? don't know where 650M is.

I am not reading what I write anymore. I am only reading the odd numbered sentences from 377. I am reading the prime numbered sentences from Sluggo. I am clicking on all ads with large busted women.

How many pullups could Duane do in 1971? There is your answer. As a Ranger trainee I am sure the number was impressive. Wear bright orange garb Snow. Those Washougal hunters are primed to see you as a deer or other game target. How does Jerry avoid getting shot at by hunters? Maybe he shoots first and renders the point moot. This friendly fire problem is one reason I prefer fishing to hunting. I'll never look like a fish to an eager fisherman. I have my APRS tracking beacon gear all set up for you Snow. We can watch your position, speed, course, pulse rate and body temp on the Internet as you trudge through the Death woods. Jerry has already found most of your cached food and warming exotherm chem packs. This may be tougher than you had planned. You may need to find a lonely widow in a warm cabin. 377 I think my first goal will be to run a 10k. I've not run a lot for probably 10 years. I'll set a 45 minute goal. That should be doable shortly. Being in shape makes the widow situation more likely to end in one's favor, also.

The naked woman, especially if of reproductive age, would have been noticed by the men. It is part of evolutionary programming. Even the PhD Nerd in Sluggo's group would have spotted her and perhaps even removed his pocket protector... kinda like the polar bear covering his black nose with snow. 377 I noticed that Tiger Woods wife was a twin. Swedish twins. I hadn't noticed that before. I have two dogs that look alike. I laugh when people can't tell them apart. They have so many differences. Why not make a video about that? Why can't people tell my dogs apart. Same thing when people walk up to a dog they don't know and say to the owner "Oh your dog, he is so cute" (when it's a she) or vice versa. Why can't people tell boy dogs and girl dogs apart, unless they see a penis? Stupid people.

I guess it bugs me when there's an implication that "focus" is a bad thing. You guys bring it up with respect to accidents where someone focuses on something to the extent he loses altitude awareness. Or focuses so much on finding the rip handle, that he can't realize he's pulling the wrong thing. Focus is good. Focus is the goal. What you want is laser focus, but you want to increase the capacity of your brain to focus at the same level on more, or rapidly switch focus. So you have to decide the full set of things to focus on, and what set of things to ignore. And what set of things to react to. If I'm on the jumpship, and you're telling me to focus on other people puking and drinking red bulls, well of course I'll be nervous. I won't be nervous, because I know most of the skydivers around me can be safely ignored. (although I have to make sure they don't create a hazard for me) Let them eat cake and puke. From what I can tell so far, the capacity problem (how many things to focus on) is relatively boundable for entry level jumping. Partly because there's only so many actions and decisions you can make. Focusing on whether the pilot is drunk or not, is not something to worry about, for instance. (edit) for an entry level jumper on a jumpship with a load of other jumpers. I can sit next to someone ranting about how skydiving is intense, and ignore him. (edit) And when that happens, I won't know the color of his eyes. And that's a good thing. (edit) I still want to know if anyone got the number of ball transfers correct. I'd like to understand how his mind works and how he did it. That's the useful experiment. And whether he could remember shoes if asked. Or glasses. Or what is the maximal number of different things he could remember, or react to. If you said "also count the gorillas" could he get that right if a bunch of gorillas ran thru the balls? (edit) Could he get the ball count right even if a bomb went off in the video? What about a naked woman? What would it take to make him get the ball count wrong? (edit) Another example: Think back to your jumps. If you wear socks: During the canopy ride, is the top of the left sock higher or lower on your leg usually (compared to the right sock)? Are they equal? within what magnitude?

Jerry is convinced I will die on the heli insert. Is he right or wrong? The nice thing is that it's motivated me to start training. I am seriously weak. Running on my treadmill. (I have to lose 10 lbs and get my endurance up). Doing pullups. I can only do sets of 4. Is there some number on the treadmill or on the pullup bar, that will switch it from death, to life, on the insert? Or does it not matter? No matter what number, I will die?

The best trick is the one I'm playing. I post here on this thread, and you guys read it.

Will I didn't go back and check my posts, I did a quick mental check, and I'm thinking all my Larch Mtn posts were in sync with the one we were talking about. Can someone point out the wrong posts that Sluggo is implying? (I'm lazy) Does anyone know?

a finer debate to have, would be "was the behavior and visual profile of the person in the gorilla suit closer to that of the humans in the picture, or closer to that of a gorilla" There were a number of things that cued "human" walking upright. The suit was tight fitting The suit was black. also: The gorilla guy never touched the balls. The head piece was the main delta to human. But the balls were typically bouncing lower, away from the heads (which is why you can't remembe how many women vs men?) If a real gorilla had gone in the picture, I wonder if we would have noticed. There's a lot going on in why this experiment is bullshit. The main thing: the professor is trying to deceive his audience..he's using trickery to make a predetermined point..i.e. that if you focus on a set of predetermined things, you excluded things that you decided not to focus on, and if you're good, even if unexpected things arrive, you can ignore them, if your brain is fully occupied with what's necessary for the focused goal. I read Sluggo's post and wonder instead: Why does Sluggo like this experiment?

I think the better analysis of that experiment is to see who got the ball count right, since that was the goal. What is required to get the ball count right? I would think focus. Focus means excluding extraneous detail. Why is that a surprise? How can you focus and not focus at the same time? What the fuck is Sluggo trying to lecture us about? Do we focus or do we not focus? Which of these things?

sluggo said “How many saw the gorilla?” The right answer was there was no gorilla. I just watched the video. Why didn't the professor say "How many people saw the guy in a gorilla suit?" The professor's experiment was flawed. (edit) Note: I can also ask you: how many people were wearing shoes? If you can't answer, what does that mean? Dumbass experiment. The word "gorilla" conjures up an implied obviousness. How many women were in the video? Shouldn't that have been obvious too? How many Asian? How many with glasses? How many times did the elevator door open? Was there an elevator door? What floor was it on?

Sluggo: are you saying then, that Duane Weber was Cooper?

While you guys were so busy insulting each other, someone slipped a cog and started mixing fire towers. You see, there are two Larch Mountains: 1. Larch Mountain, OR in Multnomah County, OR. Located at N 45 31.9656 and W 122 05.268 WGS84 2. Larch Mountain, WA in Clark County, WA. Located at N 45 43.010 and W 122 17.751 WGS84 They are 17.78 statute miles apart. I guess someone failed to see the gorilla.

Georger: I believe any question involving Jo has the same answer: She's nuts. Why is that hard to believe?

doesn't those old wooden towers give you a thrill? It's amazing thinking of building those in the woods. I guess it had to be all hand labor?, including all lifting (maybe horses and pulleys). I love the wooden trestles on railroads too. There was a big 100' high wooden railroad trestle we used to wander by. Scary if you got caught when a train came thru..the escape platform had it's guard rails knocked off... Nowadays, they'd just use a big heli to build towers (I'll post a big heli lift I just saw) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2ft9uj0KP8&feature=related or Super Puma http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QV_uFiv5br8&feature=related But you're right! Duane the forest ranger could have done static line training from his lookout tower. How come Jo hasn't thought of this?

This connects to the cattle mutilations at Tena Bar, that we discussed http://www.ufoinfo.com/onthisday/February10.html 2/10/1995 - Evan Canoose and two of his friends had been camping in the area of Larch Mountain Honor Camp near Vancouver, Washington. At 6:30 a.m. Mr. Canoose was alone when he saw a strange creature about 30-40 feet away. It had an peculiar "out of focus" quality. He said that he and the creature stared at each other for 45 seconds. He described the creature as built like an orangutan, with a reddish-orange color, a wide chest and waist, and a black, flat face with black chest markings. It occasionally moved its right arm and hand back and forth. The witness heard no noises nor detected any odors during the encounter. Evan estimated the creature's height at six feet four inches tall, based on where it stood next to a tree. Feeling uneasy, Canoose went to his car and did not see the "blurry" creature leave. He did not tell his companions about his encounter until their trip home. (Source: Albert S. Rosales, Humanoid Contact Database 1995, citing Peter Byrne, The Western Bigfoot Society Newsletter, issue # 44).

georger bragged "woops I error. I was thinking of structures ie buildings. If you count towers then I think there are currently five or six, sven if you count Belgium, nine if you count Canada, maybe ten (one near Houston), .... oh shit and the one in Siwtzerland... how many is that? " Georger, are you saying you're a contractor/developer/architect of some kind? That would be cool. I have a hard time believing that, though.

georger said "My response was: Its not that simple and yours "is all theoretical on your part". Well, yeah, obviously. So yeah, call up tomorrow and find out if the 43M towers on Larch have lights. I have no idea. Now the wood lookout tower they took down in 1976, that probably had electric lights inside the cabin. Do you think it had aircraft lights? You could ask about that too! (it was roughly 100' tall, but then had a cabin on top...so maybe 112' tall? (guess). shorter than the current radio towers. (note they had tall trees, at least two, in that first tower picture I posted!) (edit) The relevance is: If they had lights, then Duane Weber was Cooper! And that picture I posted of the guys with shovels, included Duane Weber. (if the towers had lights).

I think it's possible that georger has proved, thru his light theory, that maybe Duane Weber was not Cooper, and Jo is a nut case. If so, that would be kind of revolutionary for the thread. (edit) Yes Georger, Duane Weber was Cooper. Please send money to duaneweber@paypal.com Georger might be the last person on earth that thinks it's worth thinking about Duane Weber. So pay up, georger!