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Yes.... something very similar to an Orca, but bigger and MUCH more fearsome… the Oprah! I’m sorry God… I shouldn’t have said that. Be with the pigmies in Africa. Orange1, If you don't get this.... don't worry.... it's not worth explaining... I just wanted to add something meaningful to the Cooper discussion. Web Page Blog NORJAK Forum

Now that I have your attention: Q: What did the polar bear cub say to its mother at mealtime? A: "Aw, no! Not SEALS again!" Q: What's a balanced diet for a polar bear? A: A seal in each paw! Q: What did the polar bear say when it saw the igloo? A: "Oooo! I LOVE these things! Crunchy on the outside - with a nice chewy center!" Q: Why shouldn't you take polar bears to the zoo? A: Because they'd rather go to the movies. Q: What did the polar bear eat after the dentist fixed its tooth? A: The dentist. Q: What did the polar bears say when they saw tourists in sleeping bags? A: "Sandwiches!" Q: Why do polar bears have fur coats? A: Because the seals laughed at them when they wore parkas! Q: What's another reason polar bears have fur coats? A: Because they would freeze in Hawaiian shirts! Q: What do you get when you cross a polar bear with a seal? A: A polar bear. Q: What did the polar bear say to the tourist who left the tundra buggy? A: "Why don't you just have a good scream and get it over with." Q: What are polar bears called when they get caught in the rain? A: Drizzly bears. Web Page Blog NORJAK Forum

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Snowmman said: Once again, snowmman, you are full of shit. One time I (dressed in a polar-bear suit) was hitch-hiking along I-5 and a Cowlitz County Deputy picked me up at Mile Marker 52 where the Toutle River crosses I-5 in Cowlitz County. He said he had to take me as far as the county line. I didn’t answer him because I didn’t want him to know it was me in a polar-bear suit. He stopped and let me out at Mile Marker 21 (the Lewis River near Woodland) at the Cowlitz County Clark county boundary. When I got out he gave me a stern look and said: “You think you’re funny, don’t you?” I still didn’t answer. He said; “Okay smart-ass just leave the Coors in the back seat and get the hell out of here!” No shit… that really happened. Web Page Blog NORJAK Forum

nigel99, I'm still chuckling! But Hey, You are full of shit! 1) Mine is a lot smaller than yours. 2) I was stopped by a cop who was Delta Force at one time. 3) My IQ is at least 30 points lower than yours. So there. Web Page Blog NORJAK Forum

Quick and early response (we'll talk more later). The compass rose you placed on the map is wrong. In 1971 the magnetic headings (the ones pilots use) were as illustrated in the compass rose around the BTG VOR. Note that North (0-degrees) is in the 1-o'clock position (roughly). I didn't take time to see if your compass rose was used in any way in your plot. I'll give it more thought in the morning. Web Page Blog NORJAK Forum

Yes Jo... Whatever you say Jo. It's obvious that you "Just Don't Get It". Oh yeah... for everybody else: Did you know the FBI lied to Jo? I hadn't heard that! Web Page Blog NORJAK Forum

Jo said: Jo, you are a dear person, but if you really believe that, you truly are delusional. “That” did not get shut down because there was something you shouldn’t know… "That" got shut down because an increasingly emotional (possibly delusional) woman was making accusations that would cause the FBI a lot of grief to clear up and she was threatening to "go public". The FBI doesn’t have enough resources to spend on crime fighting, much less address a bunch of unfounded accusations by a woman constantly threatening to go public. Again it’s benefits vs. risk: Risk – Expendature of resources, embarrassment to the Bureau (even if unfounded), transfer of official information through non-standard and non-approved channels (internet vs. Public Communications Office). Benefits – information that they already have. You weigh it out and see what you would have done. Jo also said: I’m no expert, but I’ll bet 99.9% of mercenaries get their training in some country’s military (not necessarily their own). Web Page Blog NORJAK Forum

Oooohhhh! Orange1 ...You ARE quick-witted! Web Page Blog NORJAK Forum

377 said: A Boeing377 wet dream no doubt. I’ll bet you were in heaven. WFFC? I assume World Free Fall Championship? 377 also said: In the Fall of 1993 or the Spring of 1994 I was working at the Hanford Training Center which is next to the Richland (WA) airport (RLD). It’s a little group of government buildings adjacent to the runways and exactly 0.4 miles from Richland Skysports’ LZ. They were having some sort of activity to break a record for the most (I don’t know what it’s called) “joined-up” skydivers. The DZ had a Cessna 206 that was it’s normal plane, but they had brought in a bunch of higher capacity planes (including a DC-3). There were other activities going on and we were enjoying going out in the parking lot and observing when they were large groups jumping (I have some photos somewhere, one of our HP instructors was a participant). After the high population jumps, we would go back into the office until someone would say they were taking off again. Suddenly a Naval Reservist comes running in (un-badged) shouting: “Call 911… Call 911… there’s a dead skydiver on your lawn!” I went out and confirmed that it wasn’t our instructor and left as the EMTs were arriving. What amazed me was the attitude of the skydivers that mirrors what I have always told my family in regard to me flying. He died doing what he loved. Oh, I’m sure there was grieving, but it must have taken place in private, nowhere that was observable to me. The weekend’s activities continued as scheduled, I don’t know if the record was broken, and everyone seemed “Okay with it.” I think that is a very healthy attitude. One other thing: I have two dreams in life that I hope to accomplish before I die. (1) to fly a P-51 Mustang, and (2) to fly a DC-3/C-46. The next day when I went out to snag a C-172 I frequently rented, the FBO’s A&P Mechanic asked me: “Did you get to fly the DC-3?” I said; “No, were they selling rides?” He said; “No, the pilot was giving right-seat rides to any of the local pilots who wanted to go!” Damn… Damn… Damn! I missed the chance of a lifetime. Web Page Blog NORJAK Forum

SKYWHUFFO, Excellent! That video is the first one I have ever seen that actually tugged at something in my mind (and spinal cord) that made think; “Wow! That looks like fun!” Funny how it is… I’ve seen dozens of skydive videos but none that captured my imagination like that one. Rantoul… oh yeah! Sugar and I were starting a long vacation (from St. Joseph, MI) and I stopped in Rantoul to go to the air-museum and eat at a Chinese restaurant. Shortly after that, Sugar got really sick. I thought it was the food at Rantoul. We stopped in Rolla, MO and she had to be hospitalized. Turned out she had gallstones and needed surgery. What a way to start a three-week vacation. Do you have any physical parameters on the jump? Airspeed? Altitude? Flap settings. I’m sure it was wheels-up, and it appears the aft stairs have been removed. Was 377 on that jump? Were you? If either, I would like to hear about it. I flew a lot in that area, and the video was a reminder of the fact that the whole area is one big “emergency landing spot.” The only two decision a pilot needs to make are: Wheels down or up? Corn field or soybean field? Happy Holidays, Sluggo PS: The stews…. WOW! So that’s why you do it! Web Page Blog NORJAK Forum

Back in early December I posted: Well, A really good researcher, who doesn't wish to be IDed (I only mention it because I don't want anyone to think I'm taking credit) just wrote me this: Oh well! Back to the drawing board. Web Page Blog NORJAK Forum

I was thinking the same thing. Brave (or un-aware of the possible consequences)! Web Page Blog NORJAK Forum

Amazon, I was just having"a go" at you. Notice the smiley a few lines down. No... Jerry is not an amputee (that I know of). When I was trying to figure out what you meant by "LEG," I thought about the many ways one can screw-up when posting to people they have never met. Just part of my sick sense of humor. Web Page Blog NORJAK Forum

I’ve been watching this display of testosterone that I previously labeled “The Power Struggle (With No Power to Be Had)” and it has really started me to thinking. I was amused at first, choosing up sides, and thinking about how brave the three involved individuals must be. And then... I started getting depressed! I began to realize that I’m not brave! I’m just a big sissy… a pussy… a woosie… a panty waist. Hell, I don’t even know anyone who is brave like those three guys. I knew some people who I thought were brave (until now). I knew a guy who made the first entry into the auxiliary building at the crippled Three Mile Island reactor in 1979, at a time that all the experts said there was a giant hydrogen bubble in the core and it was about to do what Chernobyl did 7 years later. I thought he was brave… but not now. I knew an FBI Agent who rammed a car driven by a bank robber that was being chased by the police, in order to save the life of a motorcycle patrolman. He then took up a defensive position armed with only his service revolver and held that position until relieved by the SWAT team. I thought he was brave… but not now. I knew of a preacher who demonstrated for racial equality in Birmingham and Selma while Bull Connor turned police dogs loose on him and State Troopers beat him with Billy-clubs. I thought he was brave… but not anymore. And, I saw a young student on a very liberal campus (the one 377 went to), stand in the quad with a Bible in his hands and preach about his imaginary friend who was offering peace and solace for everyone. While the liberal students stood around and jeered at him. Even though I’m an atheist, I thought; “That’s a brave young man.” I thought he was brave… but not now. The really funny thing is that all four of these people never even once bragged about being brave and/or pointed to these incidents to show others how brave they were/are. So, after reading and thinking, I’ve come to the conclusion that bravery is only demonstrated by doing activities that occur outside and create adrenal hormones just for the sake of the hormones. Not altruistic activities, but hedonistic activities. I’m not slamming rock/ice climbing or skydiving just for the thrill of it… as long as it hurts no one, go for it! I just didn’t realize, until this discussion that it is the only way to measure bravery. And it creates a need to point it out so others will know how brave you are. So, as I said, now I’m depressed. I’m a woosie, because I don’t skydive or rock-climb. (And, I have to admit the prospect of either scares the shit out of me). I will probably never amount to anything. I guess I’ll just end it all. I'm gonna off myself...Goodbye cruel world! But wait!!!! I just read an article called “Risk of Skydiving Accidents” from How Stuff Works. It says: Skydiving is a remarkably popular sport. The United States Parachuting Association has 34,000 members. It estimates that about 350,000 people complete more than 3 million jumps in a typical year. The big question is always, "How dangerous is skydiving?" Each year, about 30 people die in parachuting accidents in the United States, or roughly one person per 100,000 jumps. Look at the US Skydiving Incident Reports to get an idea of the types of problems that lead to fatalities. If you make one jump in a year, your chance of dying is 1 in 100,000. How does the fatality rate in skydiving compare to other common activities? Since most adults in America drive cars, let's compare skydiving to driving. Roughly 40,000 people die each year in traffic accidents in the United States. That's 1.7 deaths per 100 million vehicle miles. Therefore, if you drive 10,000 miles per year, your chance of dying in a car wreck in any given year is something like 1 in 6,000. In other words, we accept a higher level of risk by getting into our cars every day than people do by occasionally skydiving. You would have to jump 17 times per year for your risk of dying in a skydiving accident to equal your risk of dying in a car accident if you drive 10,000 miles per year. A logical question to ask here is this: Given these statistics, why do we think of skydiving as dangerous and driving a car as safe? The first reason has to do with frequency. At 30 per year, fatal skydiving accidents are infrequent. That tends to make each one newsworthy, so you are likely to hear about them. On the other hand, there are about 110 fatal car accidents every day in the United States. In a city of one million people, 160 people die every year in car accidents. If you heard about every car accident, you would go insane, so you only hear about a few of them. That leaves you with the impression that car accidents are infrequent even though they happen constantly. The second reason has to do with familiarity. Most people drive every day and nothing bad happens. So our personal experience leads us to believe that driving is safe. It is only when you look at the aggregated statistics that you realize how dangerous driving really is. So, now I feel better about myself... I AM brave after all! I’m more brave than a skydiver ‘cause I drive 20,000 – 25,000 miles a year. I can just feel the adrenal hormones surging through my body. BTW: Amazon, you keep using two terms that I (the lowly whuffo) don’t understand. Huck and LEG. Hucking sounds it might have a sexual connotation and you use LEG when referencing Jerry a lot. I hope you aren’t making fun of him because he’s an amputee. You did know he’s an amputee… didn’t you? Boy, that’s really crass! Web Page Blog NORJAK Forum

georger, Have you checked your PMs today. I've been ringing your phone. Web Page Blog NORJAK Forum

Hey! I’m not a credentialed academic like snowmman, georger, 377, et al. But I’ve been doing some statistical analysis on the posts (and posters) on this thread. I noticed that Jerry hadn’t said anything ugly about Jo for quite awhile. Using very crude statistical methods, I located the centroid at Post #14463 (from Jo). In the 16 posts that Jerry made prior to that he said ugly things about Jo in 10 of them (62.5%). In the 18 post after that he said bad things about Jo only 1 time (5.5%). That one post occurred just 6 posts from Jo’s (the centroid), so there could have been some overlap there. (i.e. He created the post before he read Jo’s.) The following 17 posts are Jo-bashing free. So evidently, Jo said something in that post to make Jerry change his posting style. Anybody know what it was? Now georger, this is what I mean when I say; “If you throw a rock into a pack of dogs you always know which one you hit.” Any ideas?.... Anyone?.... Anyone?.... Bueller? Web Page Blog NORJAK Forum

Flattery will get you everywhere! Web Page Blog NORJAK Forum

377 said: I know exactly what you mean. I seem warm, hospitable, and generous in my post but I’m really mean, boastful, egocentric, bitter, vengeful, cynical, and consider everyone but me an idiot... if you meet me in person. Web Page Blog NORJAK Forum

snowmman said: You mean; “Those who are talking don’t know, those who know aren’t talking?” I’ve heard that somewhere. I will volunteer to set the rules if you would like (since I don’t have a dog in the fight). I’m loving this… it’s human drama… it’s fascinating, it’s a power struggle where there is no power to be had. Keep it up! Web Page Blog NORJAK Forum

snowmman said: Boy! He’s really dumb… If I broke my back in three places, I wouldn’t jump into those places! Sha dit Ta boom… I be here all week… don’t forget to tip your waitress.

There’s a new Cooper thread Here It’s mostly young people who’s knowledge of NORJAK came from “Without a Paddle,” “Prison Break,” etc. However the person who started it did so after watching the Nat Geo piece. It's a "gamer" forum. Web Page Blog NORJAK Forum

Snowmman said: It’s because Jerry WAS Hahneman (see photo). Web Page Blog NORJAK Forum

Haven't you ever read my "Sluggo Needs a Nap" blog. I was sure I mentioned it here a few times. Web Page Blog NORJAK Forum

And I wonder why Cooper referred to a "backpack" as a "knapsack". Web Page Blog NORJAK Forum