Belgian_Draft

Not even close, Bill. But, be that as it may, as you wish. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Nice. I love the paw pads! HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Just to say we did it, my dad and I used jumper cables to connect two car batteries in series, then used another set of cables as welding cables. We scraped the varnish off a coat hanger, wrapped it tightly with paper, and used that as an electrode. It wasn't easy or clean but we did manage to stick a couple pieces of barstock together. Heck, the weld even bent a few degrees before it broke! HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

I agreed that running an Arcmate is not difficult. However, the AWS feels their is a level of difficulty that they had to develop a certification class for running one. http://www.aws.org/certification/CRAW/ My certification came through the manufacturer of the machine I ran, Genesis and St. Louis Testing (as you can see on the AWS website, Genesis performs the cert for the AWS.) I will say that you do need a certain level of welding proficiency to know when the machine is making a good weld; uniform, no undercut, heat range, wire speed, penetration, gun angle, arm speed, stop and start point. start speed, burn back... Damn....I just scratch and burn! Sometimes I wish we could just make everything that simple again. Todays advanced process welding machines are as challenging to to program as they are incredible in their capabilities. Cold Metal Transfer (CMT), Surface Tension Transfer (STT), Pulse, Pulse-on-Pulse, etc. leave straight CV mode in their dust. If you have never run one of the newer machines, just imagine this.... You look over your coupon tacked to an arm in a practice booth. Two pieces of 14 gauge mild steel forming a vertical butt weld with a 3/16" gap. You grab your Mig gun, set your weld mode via trigger taps to bring up a preset program, and run a downhill bead with the wie aimed at the center of the gap (with NO WEAVE!

I agreed that running an Arcmate is not difficult. However, the AWS feels their is a level of difficulty that they had to develop a certification class for running one. http://www.aws.org/certification/CRAW/ My certification came through the manufacturer of the machine I ran, Genesis and St. Louis Testing (as you can see on the AWS website, Genesis performs the cert for the AWS.) I will say that you do need a certain level of welding proficiency to know when the machine is making a good weld; uniform, no undercut, heat range, wire speed, penetration, gun angle, arm speed, stop and start point. start speed, burn back... I agree 100% that setting the correct parameters for the welder is far more challenging than setting up the robot. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

When somebody wants to go boating but they can't because their trailer is bent and broke (because they were a dumbass and jack knifed it backing up), they will pay. Besides, it was a small quick job ,less than five minutes, and even at my copycat exorbitant rates it was still only $200. Small change for him. I still love to remember the look on his face! HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

About three years ago a friend was involved in an accident in Thailand. He was riding a motorbike and was hit by a truck. Severe injuries including bruised heart, broken ribs, punctured lung, damage to intestines & bladder, multiple facial fractures and injuries to his mouth and jaw. After more than four weeks in ICU he started reconstructive surgeries including several dental implants. Three months after the accident he was released. He made it back to the US almost four months to the day after his accident. Total cost? Less than $5000 US. Quality of work? By looking at him you cannot tell anything happened save for some weight loss. He says he can't tell the implants from his real teeth now and raves about the care he got anf the skill of his doctors. I don't have to tell you how much it would have cost him here in the US. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Absolutely the time it takes to learn is a fraction. But it takes YEARS of on the job experience and practice to get to the point of being trusted to make a perfect weld the first time, EVERY time, regardless of situation. Your figures are fucked up. If you think a human is valued at infinity, think again. Why should I not charge him the same as he charged me? I was running abusiness, same as he. I had several times the investment in equipment he had...unless he owned the hospital. He took advantage of my situation, i took advantage of his. If i acted like an asshole then I was only returning the favor. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

It was sarcasm. s-a-r-c-a-s-m sarcasm. I am all too familiar with the lifestyle of a professional weldor. My comment to you in the other post was not meant to berate weldors, only to bring out the point that operating an ArcMate is not that difficult of a task. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Performing surgery on human beings, that can die during said surgery or turn around and try to sue you for millions of dollars after even successful surgery, and then caring for those patients for months and years after surgery..... vs. welding pieces of metal together. Yeah, I can see where you felt you deserved the same compensation. Next time you are on the highway...or pass a gas pipeline...or enter a high-rise....or a sports stadium...remember that each is entirely dependent upon the quality of the welds to keep it standing. But hey...it's only a weld, right? We can get some bum off the street to do it for minimum wage. Sure doctors save lives. So do EMTs but they don't make the money a surgeon does. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Yes, I did miss her job description. And I have never met her. As I mentioned, I have worked many weeks over 100 hours and know just how ineffective a person becomes from sleep deprivation. Motor skills and judgement deterriate, concentration wanders, etc. Sorry and nothing personal, but no thank you. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Sorry, Bill, but i see that as price gouging. "You dont want to pay me $10,000 for a 2 hour operation? Ok, then die." HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

So you are telling me that not only does that surgeon make a lot of money, he does very little for it and leaves the work to people who are in no condition to piss in a toilet let alone operate? Thankfully I am rarely in need of a doctor! HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

His argument was that he had spent years at University and as an intern while racking up a couple hundred thousand dollars in student loans in order to do his job. My response was that it took me years of on the job learning and a couple million dollars in equipment to have the facilities needed to do MY job. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Don't take this to personal, but could you tell us where you work? I want to be sure NOT to go there for surgical needs. I have worked far to many 100+ hour work weeks to trust my life to somebody who is operating on me in that condition. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Websters is not a source for legal definitions. Oh my fucking god! You post links to wiki as evidence and then say Websters is not a source for legal definitions! That is HILARIOUS!! Silence! Enough laughter! Ok, back to business. You can check if you like, but the defintion from Merriam-Webster is almost word-for-word the same as every other source i checked. Hmmm. Go figure. BTW, what is it you have been doing that causes cops to constantly want to search your vehicle? I've been driving for 30+ years, had my share of traffic tickets, and have only been asked once if they could search my car. I declined their request and the cop was fine with my decision. Maybe because i treated him with respect? Nah, that couldn't be it. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

I did not request they be paupers, or work for an outrageously low salary; just that they are paid an outrageously high salary. (But very typical for some here to put words in other people's mouths). I understand there are many factors that go into their salary; and the salary is what I am criticizing - not the integrity of the people or the quality of their work. When the median is nearly 200% of the next highest, there is something very wrong. And damn well should be, Nurses should make much ore also! More than once a skilled surgeon has not only svaed my life, but the quility of my life! As said before, they EARN evey penny they make! My guess is you think pro athletes are worth their outrageuos paychecks! I agree with pirana on this. General practitioners are far underpaid while most surgeons are paid far to much. My life was also once saved by a surgeon but when i saw his bill I almost died of a heart attack. I was rewarded a few months later when he needed some welding done. I charged him at exactly the hourly rate he charged me. At first he refused to pay but changed his mind when i started to "un-repair" the weld job with a grinder and cutoff wheel.

Health insurance helps cover the cost of health care. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

The point is, there is a legal difference between a pat down and actually searching someone. They may be similar... but they are different. In a pat down, it is only on the outside of your clothes. They can only seize what is "immediately identifiable". If they feel a gun or knife your fucked. If they feel a pack of smokes in my pocket, they can not take it out and look inside the pack. A true search is what the TSA is doing. Under the clothes, going through your personal belongings. Touching peoples junk. For that according to the constitution...they need a search warrant...or you have already been placed under arrest. All of this was discussed in another thread. The TSA is doing a search but no warrant is needed since each person gives his/her implied consent by entering the security area. As for frisk v. search...a frisk is a type of search. From Webster, Definition of FRISK : "to search (a person) for something (as a concealed weapon) by running the hand rapidly over the clothing and through the pockets" consent search : a warrantless search conducted upon the voluntarily given consent of a person having authority over the place or things to be searched HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

With you leading the pack. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

He's still trying to reconcile his support for criminal suspects' rights with his disdain for air travelers' rights. Could be a long wait. Show me where you see any disdain I have for air travelers rights. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

If you want to start being an ass...I would say you are the one that does not comprehend. Read both descriptions then talk shit. I read both descriptions. Once again, what part of those definitions don't you understand? The definitions you posted links to actually back up my argument against you. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Police will ask for permission to pat you down. They do it for their safety. They do have to ask your permission though. They will make it sound like a statement but they are supposed to get permission. You can refuse as long as you are not under arrest.It is a simple "pat down" on the outside of your clothes. They can not go into your pockets or under your clothes. A search is when they take shit out of your pockets. Reach under your clothes. Touch your genitals...all the stuff that the TSA is doing. frisk = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frisking search = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Search_and_seizure What part f that is giving you comprehension difficulties? HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Your wrong. They don't pat you down, or frisk you at the airport. They SEARCH you. There is a big difference. That is what makes it unconstitutional. The cell phone search is only if you are already arrested. They can't just take you phone and go through it. Unless you are under arrest. Then they can pretty much go through everything you have on you at that time. No search warrant needed. Jesus H. Christ, man. What the fuck do you think the pat down/frisk is FOR???? HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

No, I do not. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.