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You guys are on your own - Not connected to that department! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Now that is more the atmosphere of this thread and what it used to be! A little fun and a few laugh once in a while. Speaking of! Communications. I had forgot about something Duane had. My daughter reminded me of this when she came to visit and I then promptly forgot it. She was talking about the CELL phone Duane had. It was a large contraption in a case with this huge battery. I didn't remember it until she reminded me of it. My last husband had one of the early cells but the one Duane had - well, I have never seen another one like it. She remembers it better than I do so if anyone has pictures of old cell phone send them to me on my regular email and then I can forward the pictures. Too much problem to take them off the thread and get them to my email. I do NOT know when he got it. Why he needed it I don't know but he seemed fascinated with things like that. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I see hope for you overcoming procrastination Jo. But full disclosure, no secrets, no teases? From Jo??? NOT A CHANCE. Why do you persist in pursuing info about the VOR towers when they have no relevance to Norjack.? There is simply no credible way Cooper could have used them for navigation info. No VOR proximity detecting vibrating corset stays. No microwave comms from the dam control network. No CB radio that could also communicate with aircraft on the VHF aviation band. NADA. 377 I know U guys say NO WAY, but it is just something that BUGS me. The CB getting the Plane and Duane actually trying to talk back to them, but they were out of range. His story about the VOR, his CB handle "Worlds Greatest Jock Carrier", His knowledge of ham radios (extensive), Microwave towers, his intense expertise with telephone installations & electrical wiring - maybe just things guys like him picked-up on to survive - but, what it? Why did he need such an elaborate CB system - the man I went to see was curious also. I didn't understand what he was talking about way back then - but, even over the road long haulers didn't have the system Duane had in his vehicle. I didn't know what the guy was talking about and back then it meant ZERO to me! Now I want to know and the man is deceased. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Jo, Since this has become your life's work and possible swan song shouldn't you reconsider dial up and go to something better? Fast internet access abounds and can be quite inexpensive. Bruce probably thinks you already have rooms full of servers, web crawlers galore and several T 10 lines. Maybe even an encrypted hotline to your "handlers" in Langley, Capetown and Quantico. 377 Yea, you should have read the OMNIOUS email he sent me after he got put on vacation! Seems like Jo Weber & the DZ are under investigation by Mr. Smith. Some how in my past life I supposely met Quade and we conspired to create the Cooper thread. Never heard of the DZ until the day I found the site & signed up. Just part of my exploring - forestry, parachutes and old smoke jumpers. That is how I found the DZ. The rest of the story U guys know by heart! With what I have in my hands right now - the DZ has been a GOOD thing! If BR is BRR - and his background is what I expect it to be - then the FBI better do some serious re-thinking! You think!

1. The ONLY PAPER BAG MENTIONED BY THE STEWARDESSES WAS A SMALL BAG ONE WOULD HAVE ASSUMED CAME FROM ONE OF THE VENDORS AT THE AIRPORT OR PERHAPS SOMETHING COOPER PICKED UP BEFORE HE ARRIVED AT THE AIRPORT. WHAT WAS IN THAT LITTLE BAG IS YET KNOWN. 2. I read some of the postings and things are getting on the side of absurd regarding a small paper bag - in my layman's opinion. Cooper DID NOT take the money out of the plane in a paper bag....perhaps I am missing something. Sounds like the guys taking about a paper bag are clueless. 3. None of the above is why I am posting mid day! Anyone who is really interested in solving this case needs to read what I am putting on the thread today. This information needs research far above my capabilities with dial-up & limited capabilities to know how to search certain things. Your help is sincerely appreciated. NOW what is very very important. A man by the name of Ben Richard or Richards or Richardson lived NOT far from the Corner Tavern. He lived in a homemade camper some place above the Tavern Location and was a regular. In 2001 when I was with the documentary crew a man in the Tavern who was an owner (I think). I remember his name was SNOW (last name). I remember that because his hair was snow white. My notes from that day are buried in this massive garbage collection or rewritten. Therefore I am winging this on my memory. He pulled me aside and told me the man I needed to talk to was Ben Richards - NOT sure if that is correct. There was another man who came to the Tavern with him who fit the description of Weber (what photos I had to show at that time). The younger man would sing for his drinks! Now with NEW information finding out who that man was & what he did is VERY important. The man was older than Duane Weber...but, not old enough to have been his father. I found one man whose name is Ben Richards died in 1996 and lived in the Brush Prairie area...but no obit or contact information regarding relatives. This was an old search from 2002. Snow told me the man "made" things, but did not elaborate. The man obviously had built his own camper in which he lived in the woods. (Snow referred to him as hermit like). The area the man sent the crew & I to was North of the Tavern & we were supposed to turn left which is West. We kept riding around, but could not see a cabin nor a camper. We figured it was a wild goose chase & they had other things they wanted to do with the limited time. Perhaps the directions were misunderstood. When I went to WA 2010 the Tavern was not there - at least the building was not. Development had overwhelmed the area. I knew the building had been sold, but did NOT expect to see the development so advanced in 9 yrs. The name is Ben Richards -not sure of his middle name or what the Ben stood for. I found in the SS a Benjamin R. Richards....He was deceased I filed it and forgot about in 2002 or 2003. Move forward to 2011: Now I have reason to pursue this man's history - very seriously. Remember my throwing out in the thread BRR. I chased this along with someone else & we kept coming up in a dead ends. The BRR was on an item in a place connected to Weber, but NO one seemed to be able to explain it. The athorities in charge of the files REFUSED to give us a name for which the initials stood for. I had forgot about the man I was told about in 2001. I have been tearing down old files and destroying stuff - too much to move. I found the old 2002 search I did. Well, I had NOT told the man who helped me the last few yrs about this Ben Richards. When he came up with BRR my mind did NOT make the connection back to 2001....and the man at the bar. My mind was searching for people Duane knew or mentioned during out yrs together - he had NOT told me the man's name. The search in 2002 was in the old files hit me like a ton of bricks - we had been searching for a BRR for 3 yrs and I had it all along. I I research something and then just file it away! Damn Dumb Broad! Dam'it! In 2002 after the 2001 trip I tried to find the man Snow had told me about. The man per what I found was deceased. Can't talk to a dead man. Then in 2010 the BRR came up, but I did NOT connect the 2 until a couple of days ago! DUMB BLOND SYNDROME - I told you guys so, but some try to make me out to be more than I am. Now I am desperate. Time is NOT on my side and so I am asking and begging for help regarding this. The memory of what Duane told me about the Corner Tavern included a man who lived not far from there and what he told me matched what Snow told me. I kept thinking it is a fALSE memory, but this insignificant piece of paper started to SHOUT at me. You stupid idiot! I dug back into my old notes prior to 2002 and there it was - the story just as I had told it from get go about The Tavern...therefore it WAS not a false memory. Then I checked back on things I had written about my memories of the old trip - there it was! Duane told me about a man who lived not far from the Corner Tavern, "but we we aren't going there today". What I had found on the deceased man matches what I Duane stated was brief in 1979 on that trip. I need some help with this...I need to know all I can about this man. I knew he built things - just what I do not know. Since he built his own camper which required having knowledge of frame work and metal - my mind just will not STOP. What Duane said ab tou the VOR and the Towers....The BOYS working on it. Those towers are metal! The man may only have been associtated in that respect, but how did Duane know so much about the VOR. He explained things that went totally over my head and things that were of NO importance to me. Even digging into Cooper all of these yrs - NOT one time DID I THINK about who built the Towers. I did ask about who built the VOR's - the equipment in the VORS was top technology for the time period they were placed. I do NOt know when the VOR was built that is just out of Battleground along after turning onto Meadow (I believe) Glade. NOW guys this is coming out of my head so if I get the names of something wrong do NOT diss me. This is so important that I had to post it RIGHT now! NOT wait and the procrastinate as I do on so much. Procrastination cannot be a part of me right now. Secrets cannot be a part of me right now. I need answers and help on this NOW not wks from now which would be the case if I didn't go public with this like I am doing at this moment. I will go back and check for spelling errors - but I am doing this as fast as I can. I NEED THE HELP OF THE GUYS ON THIS THREAD and I need it now. I can't wait for the FBI or some computer geek or someone interested in Cooper for profit to dilly dally and it come one day to late. PLEASE HELP ME WITH THIS. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

What was provided for Cooper as a container and I have the Co-pilots word on this was a satchel since the money was supposedly delivered in a bank bag. They damn sure provided Cooper with the closest thing they had to a knapsack - You can be assured they did NOT want Cooper to get trigger happy. Himmelsbach did NOT deliver the money and hence the graywhitish drawstring bank bag became another myth right of the bat! Why the FBI has allowed this myth to probagate - who knows! I have described the bag that went out of that plane & I was told by those who saw the bag that what I describe below is exactly what was made available to Cooper. Approx 14 inches long, 8 to 9 inches wide and 8 to 10 inches high tapering at the top. It had a leather clasp that went under the 2 handles, plus a shoulder strap that attached to both ends. The loops on the bag at the handle and the strap connectors would have made very good securing points from someone very accomplished with knots....which Weber was. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

According to Tosaw - I spoke with him many times. There was something green sticking out of the top of the briefcase. A bag! I wondered if it was some kind of waterproof cover or perhaps a container - but that is just a guess as Cooper did ask for a Knapsack which was NOT delivered. The only paper bag mentioned in the entire skyjacking incident was a SMALL paper bag (lunch size) that Cooper carried on to the plan with his briefcase. It appeared to be a paper bag perhaps from one of the vendor, but that was unknown. Maybe it contained hardware he brought with him, but why have that in a paper bag? Absolutely do NOT know where some of you guys are getting your information about Cooper - you have become engrossed in the myths. What Cooper took out of that plane was much larger than a small lunch size paper bag. The package was the equivelant of 2 New York phone books in 1971. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Jo, that would be a reasonable way. But, that rigging is slightly more complicated than 550 cord. It also takes up a lot more room than a small paper bag. The H912 container was meant to be jumped and was 36 tall. Not talking about the container! Smokejumper carried their gear this same way. Certain equipment and supplies needed to go to the ground with them. Other equipment was dropped....but, what they took with them into an active fire - was very bulky. They released the equipment just before they hit the ground. I have been talking to an old skyjumper who was a smoke jumper he just turned 90 yrs old! This man's files are still in the archives, but the CO's names are not disclosed - some are because it is NO longer a shame to be a CO. He was one of my school teachers! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

See Attached PHOTO - that is how Cooper carried his pay load! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I was going thur old papers & found something I put away many many yrs ago as a dead end. Remember the BRR and the BR. I do NOT even know where to start. In 2001 when I was with the documentary people in WA. We went to the Corner Tavern and spoke with several men there - it was day time. There was a man there by the name of Snow (no connection to our Snomman). He pulled me aside as the others were talking to the production crew. He told me about a man he identified as xxx xxxxxxxxx - he was an old hermit who lived north of the Tavern, but he used to come in and he was with the man who sang for his drinks. He told us he lived in an old camper just north of there. I have to go to the maps and try to figure this out so. When we found the BRR my guy chased the government facility who had the records but they would not give us a name. Remember the BRR "thing" was in the possession of someone who claimed never to have been to WA...but, it did NOT make sense. The other day - I was going thur the old old files. I had been chasing a man whose initials were BR, but the old search records just got put away as interesting memories, but a dead end. NOW it MAKE ALL OF THE SENSE IN THE WORLD! I had forgotten about this man I had looked for - all I had was a name. Turns out he was deceased in 1996 so we were looking for a dead man & something that no longer existed. Last night finding these old notes the lights were blinding - I had known what BRR meant - but, the BR was buried in my note and in my mind. I can't contact the FBI tomorrow but will be doing so before the week is out. WE have a name and that name belonged to an old jumper and a man familiar with communciations. A man Duane Weber knew. He died in 1996 so the FBI will scoff us and I suggest they do NOT. WHY this is important? What is there about BR and BRR that is so important? On our trip in 1979 Duane had mentioned the Corner Tavern and that he used to know a man who lived not far from there, but we were not going there. He did say some other things - but I filed them in the very back of my mind. Since there is a HAWK out there who reads everything I post - I cannot give any more details...but I found the links - something I had searched for all of these yrs. It is a little something Duane said when he spoke about this person. I had just filed it away in my memory and now it is a KEY that if the FBI will do what they should - it will open the door to the past of Weber so many have denied. It puts Duane Weber with someone who HAD the capabilites and the knowledge to pull this thing off. It ALL goes right back to The Intermountain Communications. Except NOW I have a name we can work with - it was buried in all of the garbage that has been thrown at me all of these yrs and all of the garbage I have dug thru looking for the answers. I know we have found that needle in not just a haystack - but a field of haystacks. I am tired. It also means a man who contacted me several months ago, was NOT as FAR OUT as I thought he was - I had a piece of the puzzle and he had a piece of the puzzle and someone else had yet another piece of the puzzle...it is all starting to fall in place or perhaps fall apart....if it does SO BE IT! After this I have to give the search up. I knew the time was coming I would have to step away because the last few months have been a struggle. I am very tired and I actually am praying the FBI does NOT walk away on this. I believe I have finally done it. Ever since that night I saw those Jefferson Intake photos - I knew what the truth was, but not how to find it. Remember the choir I kept hearing and I am sure you guys thought I had finally gone off my rocker. This last yr has been a hard one and I just did NOT have the energy to go forward much longer. Anyone remember the date MrShutter posted those pics? Anyone remember when Cossey died? I need these date guys. I have never been able to search this thread - it was just over my head. Internet searches take too long on dial-up. What has happened is the REAL thing - at least I can find some peace....it has been a long long time coming. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

The bag was the size of the old paper bags in the store to put ice cream in. It was folded over at the top. It was not one of the flimsy bags we get today. I just got an email from Bruce he sent last night. I cannot quote by law his email, but I can tell you it is 6 lines and WHEW! He is investigating me and the DZ. He CLAIMS I knew Quade before I posted & convinced him to start the thread. Claimed it was my platform. DUH! I do not know Quade but I did look him up - LONG after I was posting on the thread. Bruce wanted to know if I got a "piece of the action" regarding revenues from the thread! It is I who OWE the DZ because of the contacts the made available to me thru the thread. I have met many friends and recieved assistance on my plight from places I never even heard of. The first and ONLY reason I came to the DZ was to locate old timers that might remember Duane. My reasons have increased 10 fold. This is where I have learned about the world of parachute jumpers. I came looking for information on old jumpers - and have learned a lot from all of the informative indidividuals who post on the DZ. Positive leads did come from the DZ - as some of the older jumpers did participate in the early 2000's but that has tapered to zero. The people I am looking for would be in their late 80's and thank heaven there was some of these jumpers still out there who told me stories I could never validate. ONLY one seemed to believe he knew Duane and that was early one out of AZ. He is now deceased. Part of some renegade group in AZ of who came out of CA. Bikers, ex-cons, veterans, drug runners - evidentally a pretty rough group. I received MANY leads & made friend all over regarding this and I made some enemies - but, such is life. I was shocked that Bruce would ask questions demeaning the DZ & comments about it being a South African Corporations and asking if I was getting a piece of the action. I am here for information and to find the secrets of the past and to keep others informed of the new stuff (not finding any new stuff lately), but if I could prove some of the old stuff it would become new stuff REAL FAST. I read that sentence and my logic is what it is. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Another poster was talking about SOG below: Must be burning the minutes up. Claiming he spoke with Waugh and Plaster - Perhaps he can get them to look at this baby and tell me what it is all about! Waugh came to this thread or the other Cooper thread, but didn't stay very long. I also spoke to him a couple of times on the phone Yrs ago, but Dumb Broads do not know how to handle these thing & now we know rattling the china does not work either. Since that time - I made a picture of MOUSE. But, I really don't think Mouse had anything to do with SOG. Perhaps if Cooper was ever any part of a group - it was a renegade group and completely under the table - paid theives. Give us 6 months or 18 months and we will give you 5K - that was a lot of money in the early 60's for an ex-con to start his life over with. I have NO ideas about any of this and one can barely believe the things we read on the internet such as the site 377 directed us to last night. But here is MOUSE again~! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

MY Mouth is hanging OPEN. My God! I came in and posted were things left off - but I did NOT READ BACK to see WHAT had happened! Did I get a SHOCK! "Jo may be someone's eyes and ears to keep track of guys like me." Now that one REALLY had me laughing & there is no emotioncon for Cough, cough! Amusing! might be a good word! I will not quote the rest of it, but perhaps I need to keep reading back and see what all transpired! Just Glad I was not feeling well and not on the computer when all of this was coming down! My MOUTH is still open in amazement at the postings today by Bruce. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I have NO idea who some of the interviewed individuals are Bruce interviewed Mr. H. only last a very few moments & he was asked to leave. Curtis Eng - he is a man of few words & I do not believe there was an extensive interview there. larry Carr - well, we all know how I feel about him Lee Dormuth - well, I didn't talk to him but I was on the phone while Bruce was on his door step - we all know that did NOT go well. Bob Sail - even I have spoke to him - just briefly Ralph Hope - yes Eric Mueller - yes ( I think he was the one Doug did the interview with on a program along with Hope). Yes I was there, but not able to handle it...so I let Doug do it and I stepped down. Early Cossey - several times. Sheridan Peterson - 3 or 4 times The other guy who 2 of the chutes belonged to - 2 or 3 times. Crew members - 2 of them It WAS never necessary I keep a record of who I spoke with. They were NOT interviews...I just wanted more information. I wasn't writing a book so there was NO need to keep a record...or record a conversation. WHY is one woman's 18 yrs search such a threat. Hasn't threaten other writers - such as Geoffrey Gray or Robert Blevins or D. Summers or others - I have spoke with so many people over the yrs - and NOT one time did I keep a record other than scratched notes for my own benefit. HOW can I be a threat to anyone? Especially since I am a Crazy, Delusion, Off my Rocker, Dumb Blonde, Liar, Fantasy Story Teller - I am sure some of you can add to that list! BUT, don't! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Blevins - this girl is trying to be real good. I really have stumbled into 2 really strange lead lately. I just do NOT understand why some people get so upset with me and what I have been able to do. I really do have DUMB BLONDE SYNDROME. I just get lucky once in awhile. One person sent me Duane's entire family history a few yrs ago. The poster was the one who had been hired to HOAX me and couldn't do it. Another sends me information that is very informative about certain subjects, but it is just info and NOT specific to Weber. What I have is that I lived 17 yrs with a man who confessed to the crime and what I have is 17 yrs of digging and going forward with little to no help, just my memory. NO one here knows how valuable this thread had been regarding information. I REALLY do have DUMB BLONDE SYNDROME - why the hell else would Cooper marry me! What do I have to go on and what started my search - He confessed to being Dan Cooper and tried to explain to me what he had done....I just didn't GET IT. Why in the world would I make up an elaborate story like that? It destroyed my career as a real estate agent and my last husband was actually lofting on the thread, but I did NOT know that until he died - until I had to clean up his computer. Maybe he thought I was having an affair on the computer. I hope NOT. He did one time say to me that he thought I love Duane more than I did him....hopefully he was assured that was not true. I loved them both, but in different ways...but the same. I have put my heart and soul and my life into this - I REALLY could NOT make all of the stuff up regardless of what certain individuals think. You have your subject and your book, but NOT ONE TIME have you ever BASHED me or tried to DISCREDIT ME. Now that is what I call a gentleman...even when I come down hard on you - you still are always kind. Always nicer to me than I am to you. Just wanted to say that just encase the thread goes POOF! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

STRANGE - your avatar name is one I am VERY familiar with - and old friend of Duane's. What are your origins - Washington state and of indian descent? Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Researching something for you guys I was going thru OLD records I have NOT reviewed in yrs. PLEASE READ & PLEASE HELP IF YOU CAN MAKE THE FBI LOOK AT THIS - THIS IS ALL OVER! 13 YRS AGO I HAD THE TRUTH WITHIN MY GRASP - BUT THE OTHER PART DID NOT SURFACE UNTIL 3 YRS AGO Often I have quizzed you guys aboub BRR in the last 3 yrs. BRR appearing some place it should not. An old legal instrument with BRR on it in a place that seemed illogical because of the orientation of the instrument. The authorities would NOT help, but in the last few months my guy was given a name that went with the clue - did NOT mean a thing to me! NOT until NOW. While searching thur old documents regarding something I wanted to post about - I found the BR (a man's name given to me in 2001) connected to the CORNER TAVERN. An old patron by the name of Snow had suggested I needed to find this BR. The crew looked, but more interested in their docmentary. I didn't have the rescouces or the money to find BR. Dollars Corner Tavern in 2001: We did go to a few places, but since the GUIDE was only a 2 yr college student - he had NOT a clue what we were looking for. None of the others in the crew knew anything about WA. Returning home I did what I could and just filed it away...a simple search on the name. 3 yrs ago when the initials where mentioned - my mind did NOT revisit the story told to me by Mr. Snow at the TAVERN. BR versus BRR, but still I did not connect the two. Now I know what the BRR meant & we passed up the most valuable lead ever presented. I still had my old notes from 2001 & the search I did on the name given to me. Initials BR! [:)Only because I was digging into old files to discredit some negative postings in the thread -did I come across that old file (one piece of paper) The BR given to me in 2001. It literally jumped out of the files. Now it seems the only people who would be able to chase the BRR and BR is the FBI. My guy without knowing what I just told you all tried to chase a BRR instrument, but only found a relative. This instrument was attached to something that connects to the past of Weber. Dumb me forgot about BR in 2001 & when BRR came up - I did NOT connect the 2 things. I let it go 13 yrs ago. I had forgot about the name the man at the Tavern gave me - it was just BR - BR and BRR are connected --- it was right there in my files from 2001 with all of the numbers and the names I tried to contact. The man died in 1996... ODD again Duane died in 1995...this BR was only 7 yrs older than Duane. Old men and old trailers and old tales and old songs and old taverns just seem to go on and on. BR was local (WASHINGTON) & he was a jumper & now we can prove a connection between him and Duane. Does this prove Weber was Cooper? NO, but it sure opens up a bag of snakes. Who will remember this BR from so long ago and his friend who sang songs at the Corner Tavern for his drinks. FACE it the CORNER tavern WAS in the FLIGHT path. The man lived in the woods not far from there. In 2001 it was not populated - just a tavern and a feed store in the middle of nowhere. In 2010 I couldn't even find the building it had been torn down and there was NEW development all over. Take a 1971 map and look at it real GOOD! The parallel power lines and the VOR - The corner Tavern was in between them. Betcha this guy had some pretty good communication skills from what I was able to find on the name after the 2001 trip with the crew. The kind of work he did! YEA! I do know that much! I had found a BR, but didn't know about the instrument with the BRR. The connection between BR & BRR was only found in the last few days because someone on this thread challenged me on something & I was pulling old files. NO one WILL ever believe the truths and how simple the truth was. He was older than Duane by about 7 yrs. Communications, jumping and same age category and died within a yr of each other....wonder if he worked at the Dam - was he the one on duty that night. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Somehow this post was connected to another poster, but I was replying MrShutter: Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Talking about yourselves or to yourself. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

*** Now YOU are confusing me. The night clerk told the FBI about the man who came in on that night before Nov. 12 1971. He told the FBI or whoever came to question the night clerks who had been on duty on that night. I thought I had posted an accounting of what he has stated before. I do not remember if he was questioned the next day or the day after that. He said individuals (I took that to mean more than one) who said they were FBI questioned all of the employee on duty. They gave a description (I do NOT know which composite they used in the very beginning) - I think it might be the one I labeled Superman. How quickly they replaced that composite! It was a description given to him by the investigating agents not the composite. Remember the investigative persons probably stated his approx height, complexion, eye color and any unusual characteristics. Now understand this is just JO trying to tell what she was told by the night clerk and my story might not be exactly like his - there has been a lot of garbage thrown over the bridge since the last time I revisited the things he told me. He said the man asked about the Piano Bar attached by an open walk way that night....being the eve before Thanksgiving day - it must not have appeared to be open. He remember his name because of what the man said. He himself is over 6ft and so that is how he knew the man's approximate height. The registration said John Collins - now how did he remember that? An exchange said in jest regarding a Tom Collins...the man replied his name wasn't Tom as he was going out the door to the bar. I do some place in all of this garbage have his statements - but since I have not done much in the way of keeping the records organized these last 3 yrs - I just do NOT try to find the stuff. Someone else can do that later. I think I forgot what your question was! Whatever - this is what I remember of what he told me. Today I haven't been able to remember crap. BAD DAY! Plus a bad headache tonight...left eye has been giving me problems. Maybe I fell asleep with it open! That is how the Dr. explains the one dry eye problem! Injured in the 2000 auto accident and it has gotten worse with age. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Cooper could have come into Portland on another flight that day and stayed in a hotel. Transportation could have been Shuttle (not sure they had shuttles in 1971). taxie or private transportation. The man identified by one "supposed" witness claimed Cooper stayed at the Rodeway Inn. He requested NO one disturb him during the day. Many of the airflight personnel and others stayed there so it was NOT an uncommon request. He said the person was dropped by a taxi or someone else. After seeing that Hotel myself - I understood how Someone was able to park near the building - out of site of the clerk. When I enquired I was told the clerks check-in had been changed from what it used to be. Either position there were spaces available that might have obscured the clerks view of a vehicle dropping Cooper & his view of the other party he thought was with the man he believes to be Cooper. I do know the Portland departments along with the FBI contacted the hotels & motels ----an agent who came along 30 plus yrs could not find any files - BUT, how many yards of stuff are in that ware house and did they weed out useless files and reports they did NOT feel was necessary. I also know that yrs after Mr. Himmelsbach retired he was offered some of the file kept in Portland. It is unknown if these files were ever copied and sent to Seattle. A certain party who used to post here made this claim and what I was told would alos indicate the same. Useless trivia no one really cares about - just an update of the disappearance and/or eplanations provided regarding the non existense of certain files that should have been copied and provided to Seattle regarding the search for Cooper on the ground in and out of the Portland area. ADD is NOT all that bad - just depends on where you focus and if you can retain that focus until the mission is done. Seems like you have chose Cooper as your mission. Good luck! Wouldn't it be a riot is someone with ADD actually solved the case? Just might prove that some individual OVERTHINK the case...which is exactly what I think was done. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

First time I ever saw SEA TAC, but I did NOT know the name of it was SEA TAC - it was just the Seattle Airport to me. We had to go to a banquet held in another part of town and they provide us with a map to the facility from the hotel. I had the map but Duane said he knew the way. Well, we approach the airport and somehow he goes behind the airport. He mentions he didn't remember the fence. What was there in 1979 was a chain link fence. In the Book & the thread I SAW A PICTURE OF THE AIRPORT FROM THAT ANGLE. The fence in 1971 was one of those wood kind with a post and two rails....things started tick tick tick. Duane was at a stop almost as he looked at the plane was at....he mentioned the plane, but I do not remember what he said (actually tonight in telling this I started to say what I thought he said but, that would probably be a false memory). Then Duane points infront of us and to the Left a build that was what he said used to be a motel - but now it was offices (he knew this in 1979). The building was yellow in 1979). He mentions a ice cream place near the motel. He was definitely there at one time. He had told me this was a short cut and I told him not on the map. Sure enough he knew were he was going - but, with a slight detour. So when that plane was parked there - he was either on the plane or on the ground. I remembered just now something he said. He told me that people came out there to watch the plane - and I decided that perhaps when he was a kid - what I chalk all the other things he said up to. I didn't give it much thought. The picture of the site the plane was at meant there was photograper along that fence line - but again I will reinterate not until I saw the pictures of the skyjacked plane after I started to investigate. I would not know it was referred to as Sea Tac until I read my Max's book - My first introduction to Cooper in May of 1996 the day after I aced the FL Realestate Licensing test. ACE it BIG TIME! Now in retrospect - he was remembering, but as a spectator this time. If ONLY I had known about Cooper - I did NOT realize we were at the place of a skyjacking - the article was on the 3rd page of a newspaper full of war stories in 1971...I was in Millegeville, Ga with my husband and 2 kids. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I didn't even see a date - I am sure it had one. I noted the SEA-TAC and asked what it was. Before in earlier post I describe the ticket best I could and I believe the color, but today I could not tell you the color. When I look at the receipt from my trip I can give you the answer to Rodeway versus Red Lion. It was the one that changed names. I stayed in a handicap room on the first floor just around the corner from the front desk. I questioned the same thing and why I described the little ticket - I thought it could be one of those lockers or a parking ticket. That was discussed about the same time - but I have NO IDEA how to find it. I also asked the question of the thread about if it was a parking ticket - why the car would be in Seattle. Since I was informed someone might have been with him by the night clerk, my thinking was that the other person drove to Seattle - there was PLENTY of time to do this. Also explains the ticket. Remember that in SEATTLE when Duane took me to SEA TAC - which I did NOT know that was what it was called. Explain why and how we stopped at the airport in the next post. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

BOUNDARIES who is writing a book built on inflammatory postings you prompt just like you did with Tina's family....that is acceptable behaviour for a grown man? Uncovering cooper is the objective but you won't find him when you alienate the people who were on that plane by showing up on their door unannounce AFTER YOU have stated that Tina is a misfit all based on the very same things you are saying about me. Have you looked in the mirror lately? Have you sent letters of apology? Using your own word this is how your are viewed by the individuals whose space you have invaded the (crews and their families). Bruce made the statement below, but just do a little verbage change here: ARE U looking in the Mirror? What you did with Tina, her family and her sister - is unacceptable. Then you posted it here and in your on line news and I suppose you will use your usual thing about how TINA has a problem and she owned you an interview! Are U looking in the Mirror? I HOPE U are looking in the mirror U just wrote a post about yourself! P.S. to Quade: The attorney must be Galen Cook! I had to ask that! I made my post before I read your warning so I hope this one is NOT out of boundaries - I will no longer respond to any post Bruce's makes. THANK YOU! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

What you don't know Guru is that BRUCE does & says things only to agitate me. HAVE you read the things he wrote about Tina and her brother-in-law? He went WAY too far there. The questions he asked me - with a presumed answer were NOT acceptable. He doesn't just ask a question - he has to make an inflamatory statement he KNOWS is not true, but only to AGITATE the person. Bruce's past actions: Read his accounting of his unannounced pushy comments about Tina in this thread resulting from a confrontal uninvited appearance on her door step . Same with Tina's sister and her brother-in-law. Horrible insulting things to say about someone you really do not know & who never invited you to their home in the 1st place. Cossey has a temper & having spoke to him several times - I know exactly how he would have reacted to a persistence writer showing up on his doorstep and not taking a NO for what it means. Bruce's own past actions speak for themselves. If I was in law inforcement & I knew an individual had been approaching others connected to a controversial common denominator & read the negative remarks publically stated about them ...I would be investigating him. He cannot ERASE what he wrote here, but he can on his online newspaper. What he calls an interview - is an interrogation! He doesn't just ask questions. He makes an untrue statement with a question in an inflammatory way. He combines a an untrue bias statement with a question! He does these things ON purpose....What he did to others and to me - well, I think HE crossed the line! He is OBCESSIVE and CO-ERSIVE & bullish. I have experienced this with him several times on the phone. He wanted to meet me in WA - I agreed with limitations - things he could not ask. Before we can get out of the suite - he is asking a NO QUESTION. I put MY HAND UP w/PALMS OPEN & reminded him of the agreement & one more question like - our meeting was over. The same way I drew the line with my children. Read his report about his "interview" with TINA MUCKLOW - What he said & what he wrote was cruel and lustful. What he did is called STALKING. Then the same with her sister and brother-in-law. The postings and article he wrote about those meetings - did you read them? He asks questions. but they are NOT questions. Inflamatory statements with a question within it. If he had asked genuine questions & stuck to that, OK. He is particularly RUDE to me with the line of questioning & the manner in which he makes a statement with a question...a CRUDE way of twisting things to make it insulting to the person. He asks a question, but it is a statement with in a question - he ignores the stated purpose in his response...his statement goes unaddressed. This way he makes drivetive conclusions & it appears the person was agreeing with everything else stated. He builds himself loop holes & he is using the thread to write his book. His sick reflection on Tina as he lusts for her & yet disgust for the brother-in-law. The man was in his own HOME and Bruce was an UNINVITED & unexpected visitor yet, Bruce writes about the man in a disgusting way. If someone like Bruce approached Cossey - just how do you think Cossey would have re-acted? Cossey was NOT a big man. but he sure was a spark plug. Bruce does NOT take NO very well! He pushes too far! Example: Question/statementa about me. Am I supposed to take insulting questions he is ignoring with his built in answer - just because I am a woman. Had he have come to my door the way he went to TINA's door, he would have been in trouble. She did NOT call the police because she DOESN'T WANT to call attention to herself in the public. She has tolerated 42 yrs of that already. Bruce has approached her family and posted distasteful remarks about them. NOT one of you sees and hears what I do - you have NOT been his victim YET! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber