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The forestry had small ones they used to get water and food to the workers. ASK the people in WA who were alive and working there in the 50's & 60's. I talked to an individual who worked where they were stored - the new ones...the logging industry had some small ones. Are you talking about that area of the Lewis Rail? I theorize he used a pump car from the course of the conversation he had with me at that time. The person who I spoke to who has an intimate connection to this also thinks this is how he did it. Check you PM's I will tell you how this person know all about this and they you ask why? I do NOT know what kind of car they had in 1979 - but I assumed pump cars (because of a statement Duane made) and have not discussed it with anyone. WE are NOT talking about big ones anyway. Read what you said below: "Some handcars were left around yards and there are stories from railroaders into the 1970's of handcars relegated to corners of engine maintenance facility shops, only to be taken out for an occasional quick back and forth fun run in the yard". Check you PM's I will send one when I get thur here. "The chances of a handcar being in use on an active rail line in 1971 was tiny." Like I said check you PM's. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I have 2 witness who witnessed the plane (by sound) West of Mt. St Helens and one of these individuals is very astute regarding wind & the 2 sisters story seem pausible. Mr. H had told the sister she did NOT hear the plane, but all of these yrs she has insisted that she did. Mr. H said what she heard was the search planes - BUT the time and the sound - she lived on and near bases much of her life - she knew it was NOT the search planes chasing the plane. She did NOT know about the skyjacking that night nor did her husband the next day when he went to do a job for someone he knew on that holiday. He would pass a guy walking & he didn't act like he wanted to be picked up. He was was not dressed for hiking or walking. He had on a brown jacket with something of color like a sweater under it and he had a package that appeared to be a satchel of some sort - not a briefcase. He went on past the man, but had NO knowledge that morning about a skyjacker. When he got home from the job he told his wife about what he saw and then they went to the FBI, but were ignored repeatedly. She contacted the authorities, but was told it was the chase plane - she KNEW the sound they heard was NOT a chase plane. She had lived on & near bases & knew the difference in the sounds just as I did. When she read my story Margie Boule wrote in 2000 or 2001 she again contacted Mr. H., but not the FBI after she & her sister contacted me. Her sister lived near Cougar at the time and other reports put the plane closer to Yale. There was a logging bridge over the river at that time owned by the Forestry and she felt he crossed over there as that was NOT to far from where her husband saw him walking, but theory on her part. Was an easy walk to were the rail cars where stored & something about the logging industry keeping one around the upper location. Even the Chelachie guys thought someone had been in their facility the night before, but this was also ignored by the FBI. The Heisson store was very close to the rails. What many of you do not know is that I was told the Heisson store had someone enter thru a bathroom window. They reported it, but nothing was taken they could account for. The old tower was very close to the store - and when I went into it in 2010 on my trip - I knew I had been there - I was there with Duane and I went to the bathroom in 1979. When I was there with the crew in 1991 it was CLOSED. The crew went pulled up infront of it but, that was all. If I had gone into it - I would have recognized it. In 2010 the people there were very nice & basically I stopped to go to the bathroom & realize how familiar it was & asked the owner some questions. In 1979 Duane drove very fast - my mind had not taken into acct time & space between the memories. This factor is why I argued with Sluggo when he came to see me...I thought I was further South - but time and space is NOT accounted for in the memory of details...otherwise our minds would never be able to move forward. The mind is a remarkable thing...and as we age we start to forget things - some individuals cannot recall the way I was trained to recall.....my brother is the same way. We have retained memories others just cannot concieve. As I age - I can't remember things I did last wk or sometimes a few moments ago. That is because those memories are trivial and everyday things...and I fear dementia more than I fear death. Just above that area 4 individuals were in one home that night (all adults) who claimed the plane passed very close but they could not see the plane and it was a large plane. This is in a direct line below where Dona was living in 1971 The 4 individuals lived off or NE Kelly road and just above that Dona lived below Amboy off of NE 216. This is a direct line from 216 to Kelly Road. The Tower that was not there in 1979 with Duane was off of the Lucia Falls Rd just about Heisson. Basketflat Rd. I never found & did not have the time to locate someone who could show me where that tower was in 1971. Below Theorizing on what I was told and thing Duane told me: If the man who was walking was Cooper then that would mean he spent the next night at the tower...but I would have thought the authorities would have been all over that area by that morning. Thanksgiving morn seen walking ( if hubby was not play mind game with his wife) Thankgiving day's eve is at the Tower and breaks into the store for food for socks or whatever....but HOW if this is true could he NOT have run into search crews the next morning unless he kept going that night to another location. Did he take a pump car at Chelathie or did he ditch it and jump a lumber load moving out. Duane told me about the trains slowing down there - he mentioned this and noted there used to be a STOP sign at this point just behind the Heisson Store. Anything I say is just connecting dots that may not connect. The other statement Duane made in 1979 was how fast the train was coming down thru Yacolt and Moulton falls. I thought he was talking about a passenger plane~! I didn't know in 1979 it was a rail for the LOGGING industry... and it originated in the FOREST not another town or state. I was so naive! I did NOT concieve that a rail could come out of NO where like in the middle of a forest. Duane did mention a cemetary in Yacolt. I can't piece it together & there is NO historian to help me do this. I do not know what was there when...Why and How did he know that - when was he there? Som how Cooper evaded the authorities & ended up coming right back a them. Duane made that statement then and and he made it a couple of other times in our marriage. Then he showed me where an old house used to be across from the PDX in 1979. It was an empty lot in 1979...but he used to know someone who had a house there & talked about how slow the trains went thur there (because of a switching station in Vancouver) and he mention a subdivision on the other side of the rails over a berm - I could see not houses. Told me there used to be some very nice homes there. This location was either on Topper Dr, Lieser Point or Image Lane. That is the only 3 possible locations it could have been & I cannot get anyone to search the property records in Vancouver for me. It means going back into the files to find all of the property owners of the lots in those two locations prior to 1979. One of those home owners Duane knew and Duane spent sometime in that home. Who was it - was this the Sheriff, a member of Duane's family, Friends of the family - WHO was it....get me the information and if it is a name in my research it will POP for all of you. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Not justifiable Jo. You could have retained a part of the items that had Duane's DNA and given the other part to the FBI. Or you could have done your own swabs under controlled conditions with good chain of custody records. If you withhold critical evidence and then complain about the throroughness of the FBI investigation it looks hypocritical. 377 I have OFFERED to let the FBI swab the links in the WATCH - it has never been cleaned and the expandable band is the best source of DNA I have besides the pipe he used - but they had not been used in the 6 or 7 yrs before he died - maybe more. He used to smoke the pipe until he went on the machine. He loved that pipe....the others were just because and only a couple of those were ever used. The WATCH is the best source - but the FBI was not interested enough for me to take it by to be swabbed. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I am repeating my post to Blevins where I agree with him on some aspects of the email that was put out by a party defending Cook. I have known and experienced first hand what Cook is capable of & anyone who wants to come to my home & read two 4 inch books of emails - please do - let me know ahead of time so I can arrange to get them out of storage. Seems like Cook is at it again with the PUPPET thing as the posting I made below did NOT deserve the attacking response made by the responding party who claims a working relationship with Cook. I have mulitple emails from Cook he sent me yrs ago needing a puppet in the thread. WHY I called him the PUPPET MASTER. I have the emails to prove it. Sometimes it was a good question - but other times he was being the sneaky snake he is. I experience this first hand and right now he is using another puppet to see if he can't get some of us riled up. The post I made below: NOTE: After I made that post another party in this thread went off the wall on me - That person was told what to say by Cook. Cook needs to silence me - don't let that happen! I have to finish what I was put here to do & I will if GOD provides the way & holds the lantern for me. He has been my guide for the last few weeks - and NO puppet is going to side rail me! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I am happy to listen to you, Mrs. Cooper, but not until you deliver straight answers to my questions and apologize for your many smears. I will challenge eternally your conviction that you can call people liars, criminals, snakes, and stinky without impunity, regardless of how inconsistent Quade may be in his enforcement of civil behavior here. I was banned from this place for six weeks - far more than anyone else, by the way - and I don't see a lick of change in your disposition towards me. Do you? How about you, Quade? What do you think of Mrs Cooper's behavior on these past few pages? Has she reformed herself? Is she back to being the perfect Southern Belle? Not in my view. I did NOT address you at all - so please leave me alone. I do not need your help! Galen Cook does NOT post in this thread and he was permanently banned. My opinion of Cook is from personal experience & if you were to read my postings - you will know I can prove the things I stated. I do NOT need to prove anything to you nor do I need your help in anyway what-so-ever. The postings you are referencing did NOT address you or talk about you. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I have proof and RB has proof that COOK can tell some whoppers. HOW does that man cut it as an attorney? If Cook lies in BLACK & WHITE simply to smear another person .....WHY did the FBI spend hours talking to him? I think THE FBI owes some of us a BIG apology with an explanation of how they would trust and confide in a man JUST because HE IS AN ATTORNEY over those of us with suspects . PROVES the FBI has NOT and did NOT REALLY try to find out who Cooper really was. The FBI did not do much more than a cursory investigation on Weber at that time, but when I went public they had to make a public statement....that program to my knowledge was never aired, but Georger showed a picture of me at that meeting - and I wonder how he had access to it. So I thought maybe they did air it. I got upset & walked off & Pasternac did the interview with the FBI. Time for the PUBLIC to come down on the FBI about ALL of this. I am FED up & have NOTHING to LOOSE other than maybe get some answers I should have been given a long time ago! The FBI has been side tracked by an Attorney....whose specialty was Union Representation. GUESS WHAT - the organizations Weber worked for in those days - were very connected to the UNIONS!This SHOULD raise a few eyebrows in the media! I will just throw out the name R. Thomas! Wonder if he is related to Jerry Thomas??????? A relationship between a Union man w/the last name of Thomas & JT might explain JT's reactions to me. I brought this up before - but, Cooks actions with the FBI & his actions to derail me seem to make a lot of sense. They did before, but I could not find the connection. Without the help of the FBI - I won't be able to make the connection after all of these yrs. Yrs ago when I wanted to find this Thomas I was told he was a VERY DANGEROUS man. I actually met the man one time and thought he was MAFIA. This was the man Duane DELIVERED a package to that must have been in his jacket pocket in 1983. This was AFTER we went to a meeting in ATLANTA with a VERY POLITICALLY CONNECT MAN out of TX. This man was in close association with Presidents and high ranking officials and celebrities. When I asked Duane why we were there - we didn't work with the company - his reply was that he was invited as a special guest for that one night. THIS was the meeting where I took the picture of ED HURAND & the others walked away very quickly. Duane assured Ed the photo was only for our personal album. Duh - they were just insurance salemen. The next day is when Duane told me that before we went to Mary's (my friend in Atlanta) that he had a package to deliver and the man was THOMAS! Another man who Duane worked with contacted me because he was responding to my enquiries about Duane after I contacted the FBI. I wanted to talk to this THOMAS I was told then he was a dangerous man...but, with no explanations. This was by a man who knew Thomas. This was also about the time the man in Alabama who I knew as Tommy Gunn threatened me on the phone. He told me if I wanted to be around to see my grand kids I needed to destroy everything I had and NOT look back. I had 3 threats during the time after I found out who Dan Cooper & all three of them came from men who knew Duane and warned me to not talk about these things. One I think befriended me to find out HOW much I really knew, but did NOT threaten me - my sense of things after I learned how well he himself was connected to these other men. I put this together YRS ago & NO one paid any attention. All but one of them is deceased... I have put it all together over and over and over, but NO one has ever listened me. Oh, Hell who will listen anyway...I am just a crazy delusional woman and now after 18 yrs an CRAZY Delusional OLD woman! After 18 yrs - what could I prove and who would even listen? Galen is NOT too bright! If he had not started with the mumbo jumbo again & attempting to derail and distract or discredit, I might not be making these statements tonight. I had put all of this shit behind me...but his continued effort to derail suspects and utilize information from other suspects- makes ONE think - WHY! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I swear if the Cooper sites were auditoriums one could hear a pin drop. I got an email tonight: The night Clerk is back in the states! LOTS of things happening and lots of people very quiet. Ssshhhh! Maybe it is the quiet before the STORM! Strange I was talking about that in an email early this evening - a storm that is. The Storm was a 3 yr old baby boy!

THIS MAY WELL BE THE LONGEST POST I HAVE EVER DONE, BUT PLEASE TRY TO READ THOUGH IT: Guys, I know you are sick of hearing me talk about Weber, but at least I didn't make up a story or co-erce family members & friends & publish a book vitimizing family and friends . I argued my case in this thread & sought help to find the truths. The FBI dismissed Duane in 1998 based ONLY on prints...Then in 2003 they requested DNA & did NOT test it until AFTER Larry Carr came to this thread in 2007. I was afraid to let the FBI have 2 items I knew had Duane's DNA on them...and justifiable so as it took them 5 yrs to return the other stuff. With what I know now the watch & pipe could have gone POOF! Another created a story for profit or perhaps he twisted the words of those he interviewed & they did not ask to proof the book for accuracy. Where they naive enough to think a little story here or there wouldn't hurt? Most of the story was embellished...but, did he convince the innocent individuals his research was real & did they just go along? Until they come forward we do not know if they were victims or if they were manipulated or if they actually made all the claims stated as fact. It was a book for profit and he advertises & advertises - if you repeat something often enough maybe some one will believe it! We need a prime time TV program called DEBUGGED, BUSTED or HOAXED! One University assigned a woman to HOAX me & she couldn't do it so she decided to help me. A guy out of a midwest state tried to mislead me - to see if I would follow what he wanted...I played along, but he was easy to see thru. I kept hoping I was wrong - just encase he was for real. He wasn't and I ended the connection. That one went around & around and when I contacted the FBI he went POOF! But, NOT altogether - he just shifted his gate. He started in on me before Cossey was killed & then was absent for a while. Then after a short break he was back at it. I played with him a little, but finally he went POOF again when I challenged him to provide ME with proof of his story! Of Course he couldn't do it. I posted a picture he sent me that had his reflecion in it. A Lawrence KS box. We had one guy come to this thread who started up RIGHT after I ditched the mid-west guy. By the way we had 2 of them almost back to back...they went POOF! One was in & gone and then the next one followed on the thread. One could read thru fishing expediction. There was similarities in the verbage & posturing as the man who had contacted me by phone & email for several months. I never knew if they were the same or not...but both are gone. I ventured the last 2 were one and the same, because the caller had indicated there was 3 of them....I do not believe that at all. The story had all the earmarks of the phone contact. These "guys" were creating a story & tossing shit on the wall to see if any of it would stick. We seemed to be minus 2 posters almost back to back - and some of you guys actually nibbled at the bait...I kept waiting to see what would happen & for some reason these guys went POOF also. I expect the 2 were one and the same & the same as the other who claimed midwest connections. Maybe these guys all went to the same school as Knoss. I know I have LOST all of you right now....someday someone will get it right and maybe someday someone will understand what I have been through. None of you know about all of the CONS who have contacted me over the last few yrs. Just about every tactic in the book has been placed & utilized to convince me they knew Duane was really Cooper. Some were genuine contacts and they thought the information they were providing might help. One many yrs ago was a young lady who thought Duane might be her grand father. Now that one was early on and she was genuine. I took the information & I worked with it - but, the time lines & the information didn't work. She told me all she could - and some of it I can't repeat. She sent me a picture of herself & I came across it the other day with her email. If there was ONE I wish could have worked out - it would be that one. We both would have had some answers about our strange lives & the stories we were told. Her story was the most believeable of them all - I just could not put Duane in the right place at the right time. I never turned it over tho the FBI because I knew they would do nothing with it. Maybe I should go back and find the story & old emails - maybe I missed something & now I know more about Duane's past than I did in those early days.....but, there is not enough time left to accomplish all that needs to be done. Perhaps Blevins will win & the world will declare his suspect was Cooper! DO YOU really think that will happen? I hope not, because it will be a horrible miscarriage of justice. An innocent man convicted of a crime he had nothing to do with because a writer wanted to make a name for himself and to satisfy his personal obcessions. One might say the same of me - but, Duane actually told me he was Dan Cooper and his record speaks for itself! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Robt - GROW UP! I read the thread, but I DO not come to the DZ & BITCH or complain about what they are saying. You should be grateful they even allow you to read only. Outside of a couple of guys they are actually exploring some things without the constant interference of someone promoting a book. You were part of the problem here & why it was necessary to form a site they could discuss Cooper...in their own way. You commercialized the DZ to sell your book! Frankly that should have been a NO NO from get go. NO promotional postings! You are the major reason that site exists! That should come as NO SURPRISE! Why do you report every negative thing you do not agree with to the DZ? Your promotional postings in the DZ are long & repetitive. 50% of the time I do not read your postings past the first paragraph. Your relationship with Porteous? Prove it!. My brief conversations with Porteous yrs ago did not project a relationship. Does he call you or do you call him? Remember these words "manipulation" " & "liability". Being connected to you or your story is both of those. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

March 18, 1995 at 3:15 central standard time.... Duane Lorin Weber John C. Collins (aka) Dan Cooper (aka) D.B. Cooper (aka) Johnnie xxxxxx (aka) Dusty xxxxx (aka) Died of polycystic kidney failure after ceasing diaylsis 2 wks earlier...several days after he confessed to his wife "I'm Dan Cooper" and attempted to tell his wife what he was talking about. She was clueless! It was not common knowledge D.B. Cooper had bought his ticket under the name of Dan Cooper. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

What everyone has suspected and NOT pilot error or terrorism. I only question WHY these plane have continued to fly with visible signs of these problems. Are not the pilots given these reports before the plane is flown? If not - Why? Either the check and balance system is not working! Maybe everyone the public needs to make an out cry by demanding that copies of inspection reports be made public it that is even possible. If an airline continues to put a plane in the air with reports like this - I do NOT want to fly ever again...but, the highway is dangerous with all of the driving while texting or distracted by a phone or other equipment that should NOT be operational when the car is in drive. Frankly I think some of the gadgets on cars that distract the driver need to automatically disengage when the vehicle is placed into drive. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Seems like a lotta shaking going on. Finally others are hearing the things I told for yrs. Dona Elliot in Ariel claimed she heard a plane fly over. But they do NOT mention the 4 individuals just North and East of Battleground who also heard and claimed to have been able to see a shadow beyond the clouds that sounded like a plane very low. 4 people in one location. When I found them only 2 were alive and I do not know if they are still alive. What that site does NOT know is the fact that 2 other individuals - one slightly West and East of Ariel and the other just a few mile away but even further to the East also heard the plane. Everyone of these sighting can be marked on a map - a map that puts Cooper in the vincinity the search crews went to look for him - but by that time he was gone...and I am the only one who knows the spot locations - because NO one would acknowledge the information above. I have tried for 16 yrs to tell what I know - but it fell on deaf ears. I was willing to go along with others because I thought I could be wrong. I know how he moved so rapidly over a certain area - but NO one would hear me....no one listened. I do not know if the radar reports where off - but I do know that Cooper did NOT land anywhere near Vancouver and the Columbia river at that point....No one would even listen to the Co-pilot. He could see the lights of Vancouver out of his window...he was not looking forward but to the West side of the plane - I know nothing about flight paths but I do know if he could see the lights of Vancouver on his right side - that they had curved to the East - ever so slightly. The pilot and the co-pilot both said the plane was East. Rataczak stated the plane was to the East of the Vector Nothing about the flight of 727 indicated the plane flew over Tina's bar. The condition of the money indicates it was concealed in another location for a period of time and NOT on the beach of Tina's bar. No way it came down the Washougal to the Columbia - it would have been shredded. Any of you actually been to the Washougal ? - I have and NO bag of money could have made it to Tina's bar from the Washougal river. Too much evidence has been erased over the yrs - accidently or whatever one chooses to believe - the evidence was compromised. I have tried to tell the FBI and others that money was else where from Nov 1971 to Sept of 1979....and it was contaminated and had to be disposed of. So it was placed where it meant the most to the depositor. Tina's bar was not chosen casually...it had meaning to the man who put it there....but he also made other deposits - they were NOT found. One directly across from the PDX - that one was symbolic - "coming right back at you". Remember the story Duane told me about the stolen boat and the boy's - that they let the boat loose right infront of the PDX! Now yrs later - Cooper is making a symbolic deposit and I believe it was done to remember one of the other GUYS. Remember what Duane told me at Tina's bar. Standing up by the Oaks in the parking lot - he told me he used to know a man who lived across the river in Portland - he was pointing to the West, but all I could see was a water. He told me about a housing area I could not see that flooded and that was where the man used to lived....he said a name for the area. Now if this is connected or not I do not know - he also told me about the box and the nickels and the BOYS used to go there. I have NOT a clue how any of this is connected .... I only tell what I know and what I remember and this may well be the last time I can tell it. Each day I have problems remembering where things are - I open the wrong cupbards on the cabinets and I can't remember what I went to a room to get. I have to write everything down....so don't let me down.....remember these things and do NOT misquote me or try to make me sound like an idiot or a liar - because I am none of those things. The Tina's bar money was the only money found on that beach. It was crumbled and it was tampered with by the finders...No one will know the exact condition of that money other than what the finders told the FBI. The flight path and the money find are only related by the person who put the money there as a tribute to the man he told me about on that early fall day in 1979. Okay that's it! JO's argument and tonight I did add just a little some of you may not have known...but it is all there in the past of one Duane L. Weber and the people he knew.... No one remembered the boy with the smile and the charming ways - he was just a bad boy and mothers didn't like their daughters seeing BAD boys in those days. McNeil had out camps that were recommended and arrange for by a man - this man was a Sheriff & a friend of the family and he arrange for young men sent to McNeil for non violent crimes to particate in special programs with the CPs and with the Local Forestry in programs that became the forerunners for the system we have today....he did this because the system was over crowded and these young men did NOT belong in McNeil. Some of them made him proud....Dusty was not one of those boys. Now prove me wrong and maybe you can because this was taken from things told to me by Duane's sister & by Duane. Find the history of the Wuestenberys (not sure of the spelling and I do NOT feel like digging it out of the file) and check it out - 1945. He taught these boys how to be plane mechanics and foresty and logging and provided some of them with the principles they used to live by....some very soon and some much later in life. They learned to build thing and carpentry...they built some places on the river - log cabins and in season worked the Orchards and dug graves. They did any kind of work he could find and they lived in camps - in the areas. They helped the CP's built parks and paths. They hauled rocks from and to pits...why Weber knew were very PIT was. They provided the digging of graves -Duane was familiar with the cemeteries and at one place he knew a BOY buried there....supposedly one of their own. Some of couple of the guys went on to become jumpers and to work with the forestry. You didn't have to be a jumper to learn the basics and try it out. There is NO way in GODS name I could make this shit up - it is as close as I can remember to the things Duane told me about....why my memory is so vivid right now is just a gift from GOD. Tomorrow I might not be able to remember how to fix myself a meal...and I might not feel good. Yesterday I cooked the first meal for myself I had in a long time - all from scratch - of course I cooked it too long. I also made cookies I forgot were in the oven and they baked for 7 hrs while I slept - they were charcoal briquets this morning. Never done anything like that in my life... God gave me a good NIGHT and a clear memory tonight....he knows I have other things I need to tend to. The is the clearest my mind has been regarding the things Duane told me and the things he did - and I am not sure what triggered it. Perhaps a question someone asked me - but the memories have kept on coming. I know I have told them before, but I do not think I remembered some of the details nor in long long post and the memories for some reason just keep coming. Now I am very tired and I have tears streaming down my face and I have to go. The future is NOT looking to rosy right now - so I am pushing to tell all I can tell and HOPE that someone someday remembers what I have told and connects the dots. If Duane Weber was NOT Cooper he sure knew who was and it would be one of the boys...maybe more than one of them. Find the files and the rosters with all of the names of the boys and you will find Cooper....one was Indian or part Indian. Duane drew NO racial barriers - be clear no that - because he was often thought to be Black or Indian. I personally saw and witnessed him making a stand for what he believed & I have told that story before regarding Va Bch and the service guys on the street. one of many incidents he stood the ground. I also know he went far and above racial lines to makes things right. He told me stories, but now I know these stories where part of his life. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Just another aviation incident with no answers until the debris surfaces and over that much water - probably never. I just feel bad for the families and especially the families of the pilot because their lives are forever changed...as are those of the passengers. Certain stygmas seem to never go away when an individual is thought to have been the cause of such an incident....but, those who grieve eventually move on. This will be debated for many yrs to come and the pain it causes results in the families seemingly to experience flashbacks everytime lives lost in another domestic flight failure. In a war we expect the losses, but regardless NONE of it is ever easy....when so many lives are lost in one incident. Reading about all of the accusations and debates flying around - in this day of the internet only adds to things. The nature of this thread - well, it is about a skyjacking that could have had more devasting results than it did. The trama of the passengers and the flight crew was a fear that endure for a long period of time - and this makes me and I hope some of you "think" about the continued probing of the skyjacked crew. They do NOT need to re-live their experience so others can write obtuse remarks about them.... Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Jo Stated: Jo's story did NOT change - it is right here on the DZ. 377 Stated: There have been many changes Jo. For example you once claimed that the annotations in the Cooper book in your local library were made by Duane's hand. Now you say something different. Jo Replies: I came to the thread to explore & the handwriting was questioned by the thread. Duane's helper insisted it was his handwriting & I thought it was, but an exploration in this thread - made it evident it was not Duane's handwriting. The FBI didn't copy the pages to compare to Duane handwriting....infact they did not require anything from me that would show his various stages of handwriting thru out his life. Who ever made the comments in the book had to be researching Cooper. Why the person was so fixated on the part about changing identities was odd. It was a book from the public library. 377 stated: You have promoted demonstrably impractical stuff like parachuting pipe welders, VOR detecting garments, escape transport by railway pump car. Jo replies: The VERY reason I ever came to this thread was to ask questions and to discuss with my limitations regarding the subject. The DZ has been an exploration & learning curve for me and for everyone else!

That is the attitude you are returning with?Maybe you need to learn compassion. Formal and Written apologies to your victims might be appropriate....all who you have offended with you brash interviews. Explain you should have called or written to obtain an interview and that you should have provide them a copy of the things you were going to publish and that they have been removed to take out the personal infective & poor reflective impressions you portrayed. Something of this nature might get you the REAL interview you actually wanted. You were put on vacation because when anyone corrects you or tells you you have done something inappropriate - you be come alienated and do not even see yourself in the mirror...if you could you would not like the flections talking back at you. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Nov 23, 2006 the following post was made by NickDG (D 8904). He was responding to a post made by Airtwardo. Nick stated: "I've been following Jo's story since last year when it was first publicized and can only imagine what she's going through . . . I started jumping a few years after the incident occurred, but even in 1975, few nights around the bonfire passed without some mention of who DB Cooper really was. The central point of discussion, at the time, was if DB Cooper was an experienced jumper or not? It would seem pretty crazy (to us jumpers) to plan the whole thing and leave the "getaway" to such chance without some prior experience. But then again we know people who don't jump think what's the big deal? You jump, you pull the thing, and you land. But, there are several things that don’t make sense – and I could be wrong – but I always figured an experienced jumper would have carried a personal rig onboard, rather than request the two (or three) parachutes, like he did along with the ransom money. The point of asking for more than one parachute made sense, as there would be the chance he forced one or more of the remaining crew members to jump also, and this would preclude sabotaging the rigs in any way. There was also enough time between the takeoff, with the money and rigs, and the jump, that he could have opened a rig and did a quick I&R before jumping. Everyone at the time had their personal theory on who DB Cooper was. My guess was a certain local gear manufacturer in Lake Elsinore who was the right age and looked a bit like the description and the sketch . . . Another idea floated was there was no DB Cooper at all. The whole thing was a story offered up by the flight deck and cabin crew who threw the empty rigs out the back and kept the money for themselves. This is somewhat plausible as, I believe, not one of the released passengers said they ever saw the guy. On the other side, the practical side, we see that even today, local authorities - all the way up to the FBI – don’t know butkus about parachutes and jumping. So we don't really know how much information that exists is even credible. They probably weren't even asking the right questions. As for the small amount of the money found, yep, I would have scattered some of it too. DB Cooper probably figured the authorities would first conclude such a jump was impossible and this played into that theory. However, the WX was so bad in the area of the jump; an experienced jumper would have probably avoided that and picked another flight. In any case, Jo deserves to know if the man she lived a life with was something other than what she thought he was . . . NickD BASE 194 " I thought maybe some of you who are new to the DZ might need to be reminded that I came to the DZ 12 yrs ago....Hard to believe it has been that long. The above is how we were thinking in 1996. It was a rough start and the thread crashed. The current thread was started and it has evolved. I felt others needed to be reminded why I came to the DZ before they start bashing my story....it has been a long long road & now the conversations has evolved... Writers & authors promoting their Cooper books & others writing their Cooper books. So much has happened over these 12 yrs I have been at the DZ, I felt a re-cap was needed..

It is aggravating the hell out of me....BUT, It is adorable....If you can send me a jpg of it and I am going to print it out and put it on my refrigerator...might give me a reason to smile very morning when I have my coffee....rather 2 cups of coffee flavored milk. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Well, anything is possible and nothing is impossible! What I would find even more strange would be if the pilot had done any searches on his computer regarding skyjackings... Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Wow! You guys have been busy busy busy. Sound like some of you actually know these thing and all I am thinking about is those souls on that plane - just gone in a flash. I came back to see what had happened and to apologize to someone on this thread because I have felt so bad I made a real bad mistake tonight so I hope the person I sent an email to will forgive me. Homid YOU have a PM. I love all of you guys - take care and HOMID I wrote that PM thru lots of PAIN - I might not be able to repeat it - NOW it is in your ball park......GOT TO GO....EVERY WORD OF IT IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH SO HELP ME GOD. Homid I think you are on to something! It was ODD you asked me that question and I tried to tell that story before - Mr. H was the one I told it to in detail many yrs ago. I have briefly touched on it in the thread but not to that extent. If I did it got lost in all of the other stuff. Trust my memory. I did try to tell the B man the story, but maybe I was telling the wrong person that story....Remember the man who obtained an attorney for another man who wanted to talk to the FBI, but wanted immunity - look it up in the thread - too much pain to remember his name - he contacted the Newpaper wanting to get intouch with me in 2001 - Magie Boule did not think it was important - now I know the man was the man Duane told me about. Even now I can not think of anything but the sound alike. This was the man I wrote about who wanted immunity - and he died in 2004. Now I know I should have contacted him or have had Margie provide a contact for him. To late now. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

YOU are SMART enough to know anyone researching Cooper - keys in D.B. Cooper not DAN Cooper! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Trying to read the rest of the posting. Was there anything like that in 1971 - of course I have not a clue what you are talking about! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I love U guys tonight. Some of us made short casual comments about the missing plane - and then BLEVINS does a detailed know it all essay! Whew! I don't feel so well tonight - definitely don't feel like dealing with Blevins. I don't know if it is the screen - stars & zigzags & my head hurts. I pulled the ice mask and if that doesn't help think I will just go to bed GOOD NIGHT! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Thank you so much for pointing these things out to Blevins, Your post is worth a repeat & repeat over and over. In fact maybe it should be echoed every time Blevins keeps on keeping on with the same old same old. As tiring as my posting have been for some of you - I do not just repeat the same old same old over and over! Most postings are original and NOT copies of other posting I have done in the past. Maybe we should repeat your post everytime Blevins makes a statement. Just playing around on the computer today - I noted that when you key in D.B.Cooper - you get Blevins over & over & over...Nothing on Weber! I just shrugged my shoulder because they were Blevins own pages he created & I have never ever done that. He makes sure if you key in D.B.Cooper you will get KC over and over and over - & they are pages he created. What does that tell you - it is all about promotion and selling his book - probagating a scam? If for NO OTHER REASON than to get Blevins to shut up - I wish the FBI would suddenly find another reason to look back at Weber.... ALL I do is talk about Weber versus Cooper in this thread & in personal emails with others who have helped me with things -NOT all over the internet media. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I have been reading media news about the missing plane - it sounds like Cooper World out there . You read the theories and the supposed facts - and it is just unbelievable. How in this day and time could a plane just go POOF with no trace? That was NO small plane. No phone messages because they didn't have WiFi systems. Just hope the passengers did NOT know what was going on and that no one died in fear. Better yet, that they find the plane so the families can rest in peace that their loved one is dead or alive. I cannot even imagine what these families must be going thru....Perhaps we should cease posting until something is reported, because everytime one keys in Skyjack or Skyjacking they are sent to this thread. Also concerned about what is going on in WA state, but that is insignificant at this time. All any of us can do is PRAY to a higher souce for new information about the missing plane - VERY soon! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Wrong Jo. You may despise Bruce, but he is part of the DB Cooper venture. 377 All he has ever done is hypothecize & be rude & caused harm & mental stress to the real victims in this case. He acts like a spoiled child who thinks everything is his way or no way. If you do NOT agree with him he is spiteful (one can see this in his writings). Writers like this are opinionated bores (such as his writings about Tina and her family when they refused to be interviewed). He attacks - he does not interview. You guys might call this jounalization - I call it something else! Individuals like this use words to as their swords when others refuse to do his or her bidding. They are incompassionate and do not care that their self filling actions leave emotional scars. I do not consider such actions as being part of the Cooper investigation....he cannot be objective or fair when a witness or individual refuses to speak or act on his command. He can't even be kind! He also twist things to meet his own agendas. He did that with me - therefore he has treated others the same - they just didn't ruffle his feathers or they never read the reports he made regarding discussions concluded. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber