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Duane & I were married in Colorado March 27, 1978 Duane died in Florida March 28, 1995 Jo Weber called the FBI May 25 1996 Jo Weber in March 2000 Called the FBI and the Agent did NOT even have his information about Weber correct as far as Army records & his McNeil Records. Jo Weber flew to WA. in 2001 for a Documentary she never viewed. Jo Weber flew to WA in 2010 to try to retrace the Sentimental Journey Bruce has NO idea what is going on! He is frantic he is NOT on the in. FBI is flying in to see FBI Maybe it is a funeral or just to say GOODBYE! March 36 yrs ago Jo married Cooper March 19 yrs ago Cooper died. Jo Weber has spent 18 yrs of her Life trying to tell the FBI who her Husband was. What happens in March is Spring Arrives and NEW life springs forward With the Lillies of March. March on brave souls - it has been a long journey and I wish you a much needed rest & wish I was there. Resolutions may never come, but life does come to an end. We are on borrowed time from the day we are born. It is what we do with that time that counts. Bruce was never part of this venture & he never will be. Time to say GOOD BYE - nothing Bruce needs to concern himself with. Bruce was never part of Cooper Bruce is NO truth SAYER So why is he so distressed? Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

The woman was NOT on a cart. She was standing between the two lead horses - stradling them. Duane told me about this woman in 1979 as we approached the cross intersection of the highway which was the exit one would take to go to Paradise Park....he had just early mentioned a park where "the boys" used to stay. I took maps sent to me - found the parallel power lines and the location of the Corner Tavern and then went up the Interstate and everything he said was there. YOU claimed Paradise park back when you came to this thread. Now you say they were not at Paradise park...how many ways are you going to tell your story? The picture I saw of a woman doing this was PRE-1970 per what she was wearing and the hair style. The woman was wearing a dress...I do NOT know when or how I saw the picture. I just remember the picture and Duane telling me in 1979 he used to know the woman (the picture and his telling me about this are two different incidents). Why I thought it was some kind of Circus act after I found out he was an ex-con and a circus was one means of employment for ex-cons. Piecing together a 17 yr marriage built obviously on a phoney background to cover the yrs he spent in prison has been a challenge. Duane mentioned just about every airstrip along the way. Some I could not prove or disprove until I got really good maps provided to me....old and new. Every airstrip he mentioned and pointed out no matter how insignificant actually did exist! Duane knew these airports and these airstrips - he stated "we" and "the guys" used to fly in and out of there. Multiple airstrips - some very insignificant. HOW could and would a man who had spent most of his life from 1949 until 1968 in multiple prisons know all of this? Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

His mission was to shut Cooper snoops up! He provide some things in this thread, but his intention was to divert. The way he flossed over the background of Weber - it was evident. NOTE how conveniently they glossed Weber over - but someone screwed up - they didn't get it all....Pre 1950 Duane's Weber was arrested in the state of Wa - well, the only arrest that gave his name as Weber! . Jo provided it but it was ignored. Perhaps Ckret is the one doing the dance! HE screwed up! He missed one thing in the destruction of Weber files - just one, but it was enough. Just their saying Duane was never in McNeil - shows someone SCREWED up BIG TIME! ERASING the existence of ones past....it is done all of the time. With new technology this is becoming more and more difficult....but, the government can do anything they want! Right? Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Robert Blevins - BEFORE ANYONE EVER HEARD OF YOU. JO was asking about the woman who road horses standing. Before you ever mentioned Paradise I told about a park off the interstate and West of the interstate and there was a covert under the highway - that went to the other side. "The guys used to stay there" An exact quote I told the FBI and Mr. H before you Blevins was ever aware of KC. On the East side was 2 parallel power lines. I told about Duane knowing a man near The Corner Tavern who lived in a home made camper/trailer in the woods and washed his clothes in the river and was asking about Paradise Isle (but not by name). I wrote about some of this in the early yrs, but didn't know the name of the place...just that it was a park (didn't know the name as Paradise). Then when you mentioned the park - I knew it was the park Duane had pointed out and told me about. I have emails from before YOU ever became a part of this that state these thing....and me in the east trying to tell others what Duane told me and showed me. There are actually recordings of phone call and a letter I wrote to Himmelsback pre 2000 - before I got a computer. WHAT are the chances? Was I doing one of BRUCE'S things -teleporting or all that weird stuff he is into.? IT was in 101. I didn't know what the place was called. I also talked to the FBI about these thing - very early on....1997 and to Mr. H extensibly. I personally inquired about the woman who rode horses.....strange you developed a story by contacting this woman....?????? When you were in contact with her you DENIED anyone else contact with her....WHY? I will tell you why because you engarnished everything she told you. She never told you Kenny was Cooper and you never showed her any pictures of Duane L. Weber or any other suspects. I am quiet well aware she sold the ranch & so is everyone in this thread. Strange you wait till she is gone & you already knew she was upset with you. Remember your last conversation with her? Maybe she is in CA working on the stroy and the movie of the century - TELLING the real truth! One that will show you to be a hoax. Maybe she could ONLY suspect who Cooper was. Perhaps YOU never showed her the photos of any other suspects. Maybe she had NEVER seen any photos of Weber as a young man and as an adult. Maybe when she did - she decided to hold on and get the hell out of Dodge! You never allowed her to see pictures of Weber? RIGHT! I am not trying to do anything to LINK your story to Weber or the people who knew him - you did that just by not disclosing the woman who RODE Horses and DOING your homework. I doubt Weber knew Kenny but he sure as hell knew the Woman who rode horses bare back standing and he probably knew her husband! I was telling about the Woman Who Rode Horsed Bareback since 1997. I thought she was just a circus act he had seen! ONE and ONE does equal TWO - If one ignores one fact then ignores another connecting fact - something is wrong. I already knew about the camp near TWISP and the Smoke Jumper Museum - I have copies of email I sent to you asking you to check them out on a trip you (supposedly) made. You never checked anything and I doubt you even made the trip. Yet, you continued to make it sound as though you did? A dollar late and a dollar short! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

At least we are still talking Boeing Planes. Diatoms - now that is something I want to put my 2 cents worth into. I do NOT have a clue what a diatiom is other than a water bug or mite. You will note I never engaged very much into the conversation...because ALL I know for sure is that money was put on that beach around the end of Sept 1979 or early Oct 1979. Prior to that it had been in a shed on dry land and yes, it had gotten wet from a leak - why Weber ditched it....no way could he spend it....so ditch it! There was something symbolic about Tena's Bar - his STATEMENT about the Guys used to go there and there was a box you put a nickel in. What Yrs was that box there and what period of time was a nickel - the honor charge....I remembered this. Why I kept looking and asking if anyone had picture taken there way prior to 1971. When did it become more than a nickel? I remembered the Nickel statement - SO when did the fee go up & when did the original box go down & the request for a nickel.... Answer that and then it is a matter of putting Cooper in WA during that time....If Duane was NOT Cooper it was ONE of the BOYS. Surely there are OLD OLD pictures taken by others on over the yrs? A nickle sound right for 1940's to the 1950's & maybe the early 1960's. Duane was DEFINITELY in the area PRE 1950 - that one is a given. He was arrested near Spokane. Was he with Harris or Pennington? When did Duane know these 2 older jumpers - they were his age approx. They are BOTH connected to WA. Well, they were but they are dead now! Pre 1950 fits with the missing time frames - even though others didn't see the holes in the time lines from 1945 to 1950 - I DID! Yea, he went back East, but he escaped from the honor farm - and that time is NOT accounted for until his next arrest. According to what I know - he got in trouble with another BOY! Who was that boy and why Could he never go back. Try a work camp just out of Twisp and a smokejumping came just about that. Why doesn't the man who TOOTS another suspect GO back and find the roots...contact his SUBJECTS and ask them before the DIE? Maybe he is being PAID to deter the public - you think? Maybe if he had made the detour to the museum I told him about not too far from the Camp and Twisp - he would have found pictures and names! Their eye site is so narrow - and focused, they would not see a truck load of lumber barreling down a logging road. Maybe the FBI got hit with this one? The Mouse and Paperlegs - I think both of them KNEW or suspected who Cooper was....just the name they knew him by was not Duane Weber or John Collins. Dusty or Johnnie Wenz - give it a try. Tell me the name of the Fire Chief in The Dalles & the names of the firemen and forestry division operating out of the area. Check it OUT - NO one would but someone DID! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Off subject: I am just completely puzzled how they lost contact with a plane in this day and time..Anyone have any new informations? Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I have started with my logs - I logged all conversations and the content and some I actually recorded... I am not going to start this long process tonight because I do not feel well. I had worked my way of to 2000 Feb. 7th and decided - JUST incase I should die tonight - I needed to make this post. At a later date I will go from the very beginning - not the story, but the contacts and people I talked to and my conversation with FBI agents and Mr. H. I had to stop on this February 7, 2000 log because it is extremely important. I am sure Garrison Louis also kept logs so this conversation can surely be proven. Garrison Lewis was the attorney for Jowers the man who had the restuarant when Martin Luther King was killed. Time 5PM: Date Feb. 7, 2000 Garrison Lewis Attorney for Jowers. Subject - the death of Martin Luther King. Mr Jowers related he had his own life threatened after I related to him my life had been threatened by a man out of AL. He said the FBI did NOTHING when he was threatened. He is 67 (at the date of the log) and very nice. I wanted to know about The Grill and an old hotel. During the trial it came out that in 1968 or 1969 a man from Atlanta called a Los Angeles Hotel where James Earl Ray was traing to be a bartender after some plastic surgery. The caller gave his name as COLLINS. I had read this accounting in an old article as Duane had told me he knew James Earl Ray. I was surprised to find Collins had come up in a media source.....regarding Ray...NOW, yrs later NO one seems to be able to find this old article & when you find something the name has been changed. Surely one of you GHOST news researchers will be able to find that old article in its original format. I related to Garrison my husband had told me about James Earl Ray and that he knew him. At that time I did NOT mention Cooper. The conversation ended with Garrison going to speak to Jowers & see if Jowers would talk to me & view some pictures. Evidently Mr. Jowers did NOT want to talk to me about this. (I am inserting now that I didn't know at the time Mr. Jowers was very ill). There was mention of the name Butler a name introduced by Jowers, but I make no note why. At that time I was in contact with Duane's exwife and she did NOT remember the name Butler. This Mr. Butler seems to disappear during the during the King "situation". I do not remember what I was referring to. This was added after I got off the phone and spoke with Duane's exwife. The next major log regards U.S. News and World Reports wanting to do an article. I noted How I felt. I was crying as I wrote the entry - talking to Duane. That maybe I can make his confess count for something - a means to make things better for other middle aged men facing life after prison. I tell him I am sorry I didn't listen to him & didn't understand the things he was telling me during those last yrs. I was sorry he didn't trust me & sorry I didn't comprehend the things he did tell me. In a later posting I write to Duane about why he didn't want me to view certain TV programs & why he couldn't trust me with things about his life - I had a temper and I was so damn straight - I forgave him for not telling me things straight forward because he knew I would run straight to the authorities. That is dated March 8th in 2000. Good night. If anyone is interested in the logs made in the planners let me know. I used my appt book as a log. So searching among business related notes. Interesting that after my conversation with Jowers - the name was changed in future articles...Why I called him was because there WAS a Collins who contacted Ray and he was from Atl. and Duane had told me he knew Ray. Wish I had had the smarts to have copied the article, but I had only just started to use a computer in Jan of 2000. It is possible I made a copy - but NO way do I have the time or energy to dig thru several ft of paper files - just thrown together. My eye site also hinders this task. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

U missed the point! The FBI's investigation was faulted - they CANNOT prove Weber was NOT Cooper....NOT one iota of information provided by the FBI is documented or proves Weber WAS not Cooper. Whew! Maybe I should erase that - BLEVINS will jump all over it....so much of what he says comes from the things I have told over the yrs. He uses the research of others to his benefit his story about an unlikely subject - WATCH it him DO IT! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Blevins will never give up! Jo - NO ONE ever can second guess her or exactly what she is up too. Will she die, will she go public, will she walk away, does she have new information, is she working with an agency or VIP, is she going to BLOW the case, is she making a reconcillation? One thing for certain she is NOT predictable like Blevins....much to the dismay of the investigative agencies, etc. Just erased the rest of this post! Nothing anyone needs to know! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

NO RE-think your reply! The Individual or individuals were at one time involved in activites the government does NOT want to publically acknowledge JO IS POSITVE OF THAT STATEMENT! Other wise explain the threats I received from 2 specific individuals & conscience statements made to me by 2 FBI agents. Deliberate or perhaps erroneous statements regarding the past of Duane Weber? So what do U think - Erroneous or deliberate? If Erroneous statements by the FBI then they NEED to re-investigate the past of Duane Weber & SUPPORT those claims with ACTUAL documents - NOT summaries made after the fact with NO DOCUMENTATION of Weber's where abouts in several of these time frames. Such as: the summary regarding the yrs from 1945 to 1949 - NO ACTUAL documentation ever made available...just summaries with NO background docs. Those missing time frames support what I was told. Then we have NO explanation why WEBER (a convicted felon) could have been arrested many OTHER times and they didn't HOLD him or send him to court or to jail....did the system fail? NO CONFIRMATION or DOCUMENTATION of his life as John Collins - yet he had a WIFE during this time - common law - but, still a COUPLE. 1962 to 1966. THAT is a 4 yrs span and they have a SS for John Collins. They KNOW were he worked and who he worked for! They also have other names & SS used by the woman he was traveling with...1963 to 1966....those are the YRs in question! Did she also just GO POOF during a 3 yr span of time. She met him in 1962, but that is story I have more than one version of. Mr. Attorney U can't answer that one except with suppositions & in this case if you were trying a case representing Weber - Documentation would be required by the government to prove their allegations....he committed a specific crime in those missing times. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Just HOW long are U going to THINK about the things I have stated. DON'T THINK too LONG because I CAN find someone who WILL hear me I AM going to TALK! I have been talking about the past things I know I can prove or disprove...and it is TIME the FBI listened to me - because there are OTHERS I hope who are. The FBI didn't even respond to the message I left and I am not going to the efforts of composing an email w/pictures that are never acknowledged... So MUCH I want to say - SO much I HAVE to say. I told the FBI, but they turned a deaf ear YRS ago - ORDERS from WASHINGTON! Yet, they entertained the idea of twisty butt presenting DL Cooper - actually HOPING the public would BUY into it and they could DITCH Cooper....well, that BACKFIRED! Right? I am just hoping the DZ holds on long enough for someone to listen. I am afraid to say names and details in a public forum - I NEVER did THE BLEVINS THING! Humiliating Good people. I have withheld names and specifics. "Duane Weber knew people in High Places and if you want to be around to play with your grand Kids destroy all you have and never look back". I took that threat literally - and so did one of my daughters.....and so did her husband. I have an 18 yr old grandson I only got to see twice in his life. He told me not long ago - a woman he cannot remember. "I love you Grandma Jo". My daughter was trapped in that ice storm for 11 hours plus and she kept going till she got home. SO if the DAMN FBI had PROOF Duane Weber WAS NOT COOPER why have they not made any confirmed statements and have shown proof - other than the flimsy information they made available --- in 2001. YET, the FBI wants me to PROVE Weber was Cooper? HEY, even in 2000 on the PHONE the FBI had INCORRECT information! DUH! They had the WRONG army # - one that was ON a DOCUMENT they made a copy of ...well, it was CORRECT on the document - but the FBI agent researched the WRONG man. If they made a simple mistake like that - how the hell did they RULE Weber out? Just like the CAMINO records - they didn't even try to find out the REAL name of the man in the picture! It was NOT either of the names - provide with the captions.....and there was 2 men in those pictures who went on to be JUMPERS! The names given to one name - the man was NEVER in CA. I actually yrs ago talked to his relatives twice over a period of yrs - same story twice. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Well, then PERHAP you need to SIT down with me and TALK! I don't mean in a public forum...Really do NOT believe you are that SIMPLE. You come off with slanted ideas - that seem to waiver very often....why I thought you were connected to the RANCH out of TX. This sounds like a riddle unless you know what I speak of! Bet 377 knows exactly where I am going with this...I am just NOT BRAVE enough to shout it out- Not, just yet! Reminds me of the Wolf and the Fox - which is faster and quicker and which will slaughter the lamb? Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

THE TRUTH IS FAR MORE BAZARRE THAN ANYTHING BRUCE COULD EVER CONJURE UP! Bruce has NO idea that Cook is using him. Remember that Cook has UNION connections big time... Georger you know exactly who is pulling the strings. There WAS MORE THAN ONE reason I referred to Galen Cook as the PUPPET master....he had and probably still has UNION connections. Was COOK not a UNION ATTORNEY - is he still working for the UNIONS? Cook has for yrs tried to derail Cooper with many suspects and is always in the middle of the action - SUPPOSEDLY! His real & only purpose is to derail the truth! That is what he is paid to do! I do not know HOW Galen inherited this job, but he did! When the older guys died off a younger guy had to be recruited to carry the torch! The TRUTH is so far beyond those who think they are in the know it is NOT funny! The most gulliable of the Cooper groupies was chosen to write a story so bizarre it would derail any further investigations into the Cooper incident. AS usual Galen is earning his way by pulling the PUPPET strings! Problem is they have NOT been able to DERAIL JO just yet. Now they are depending on Mother Time to do the job! So if any of you think JO has totally LOST it - well, that is just NOT true. Remember this Galen was with Tosaw when he was a kid - so who better to carry on the JOB. Remember the FAT LADY? I used to sign off with "IT IS NOT OVER UNTIL THE FAT LADY SINGS". Well, Jo is not fat and she can't sing - she is typing as fast as she can. Not even taking my medications so they do NOT get in the way of my thought processes. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Money Triggers: Seems like NO one is really interested in solving the case, just rehashing all of the debatable stuff. No one is interested in chasing actual information: Two friends of Duane Weber aka John C. Collins who were jumpers. a. One was definitely in WA that was Harris. b. The other I am NOT sure of his background, but when Duane asked were he was now - the reply was either N.C. or S.C. and this was in the early 80's. c. Paperlegs (Richard Peterson) - the exwife told me that she and his wife were friends and there was a picture of the two of them together. d. Mouse If the FBI checked these thing out they would find the connections of Weber/Dusty/John or Johnnie whatever name he used with the other guys....Just remember the Johnnie Jar. Since the FBI didn't investigate these things then there is NO question in my mind that the Cooper Incident was masterminded by the government itself or the individual or individuals were at one time involved in activities the government does NOT want to publically acknowledge. Georger you know who Kissy Kissy was and it is time U acknowledged this - When I contacted "them" yrs ago - your name was given to me. Your real name is a common name so maybe just a co-incident, but not likely considering your demeanor regarding the subject of Cooper & when your real name is mentioned. When I learned your real name was - it was right there in my notes from yrs before. I made these contacts very early on in my investigation of Duane's past - but I was quoted the privacy act so to speak. Even Sluggo was part of this - you see he let his guard down when he spoke about a race car driver - that Duane also talked about and we went to Cook-out at a place in Ga. I did NOT at the time understand what Duane's connection was to all of these guys. I expect Sluggo is deceased or incapacitated even though some of you claim recent contacts... I also believe his visit to me was to find out HOW much I REALLY knew! I did NOT tell Sluggo everything. Sluggo was supposed to be a pacifier, but he pulled out when he realized - the only way to stop me was to ignore me. So am I bluffing or am I spelling it all out? MAYBE it is just a GOOD STORY? Do NOT take that statement to the bank! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Information U need to provide to the man who did the testing on the bills: I just remembered something about our trip to WA. We spent the night in The Dalles because that was Duane's goal. BUT, first we stopped in Biggs & Rufus. There was a woman who had a store there & it was closed - now I only remember her first name. Second there was a Motel & Duane stopped there to find out about Mattie (her nephew work or owned it). Duane makes a trip the next morning leaving me at the motel in The Dalles for over 5 hours. It just hit me - When did this MATTIE die. Was she still alive & is she the friend Duane's he went to see or was it his intentions to see her husband? I do NOT remember the history on Mattie I was provided - so much I am loosing everyday - my memory lets go of a names or a detail. Duane told me he had gone to see a woman and her husband had died. Was Mattie's husband alive in 1971? He told me the reason he was soiled was she ask him to move something in the shed. When he moved things for her - there was rotten wood. Question - Was Mattie's husband still alive in 1971 and why did Duane go see her or was his intentions to see the husband or her nephew? Why was he asked to move something unless it was something they were looking for - something hidden in the shed. If the money was in a closed container & some had been damp and then dried over a period of time - and in a shed without heat or cool, What would be the amound of deterioation of the bills and the rubber bands. If this was the location - the leak would explain thewater damage Could this would explain why there were NO diatoms on the bills and the condition of the rubber bands? What kind of bugs does Oregon have in the ground and in sheds near rivers in that area? I say FIND where Mattie was living in Sept. 1979 & you will find where the money or part of the money was buried. It would be better to send me a personal email about this....as I may not feel like coming to the DZ. I posted this information on the DZ and the woman's name and the nephews name are in the thread. My memory as of late has been very bad. The files are stacks of papers I not longer have the ability go thru. If what I am thinking is true - then we are ON to SOMETHING. The man who did all of the money tests should be sent samples of the ground and where the shed was. It would be were Mattie was living in 1979. Qhat did her husband do and who were his friends? Was he alive in 1971 and who all lived in the home she lived in during 1971. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Thank you for saying what I was trying to say in a post about Seniors and Abuse and the organizations that protect them. I erased the post because Quade made me think I had said something inappropriate, but I was quoting advise I was given. I have tried with all of my heart & soul & at the expense of 18 yrs of my life to protect those who where ONLY a part of the past and as far as I am concerned victims the same as myself. No one deserves to have their lives disrupted or scoffed at because they had a connection to the man who was Cooper. Duane was such a man - he actually had NO enemies except one ex-wife. He was always able to sweet talk or double talk himself out of trouble 98% of the time. This is a man who spent most of his adult life encarcerated off & on from the age of 18 to the age of the age of 48. He didn't just GO straight after Nov 24 1971. It was a LONG process with many set backs, but there is NO need to spell out the details....things I know about and thing I have not told. People LOVED him - and they just looked the other way. No one really wanted to believe he was a man who had spent 17 yrs plus of his life in prisons and with a record a mile long. I will explain that at another time in the future, but NOT tonight. Duane Weber was unique - for a criminal! Perhaps he is the only one I have ever truely known....I know cons can sweet talk their way out of just about anything, but that was a characterist Duane did NOT possess in his early yrs of crime. Of Course, one has to look at all of the arrests he had - and wonder WHY and HOW he managed to continue to have arrest after arrest and why he was NOT prosecuted for all of these crimes. The story of Weber & how he went straight is a mystery in itself! Why so many people loved him & never saw the criminal ex-con side of him? Perhaps NO one will ever know who he really was and HOW he managed change and to survive.... Was he just an ex-con gone straight? No that is NOT it. I am really a blank for words to describe the man I knew as Duane L. Weber, other than he had many friends who loved him and he left behind a lot of positive memories. He had a way connection to the younger generation...and it was always in a positive way. Duane Weber was loved by many people for the man they knew -It is the man we did NOT know that is a Puzzle to us all. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I erased what I thought might be the offending post. Sorry. The exploitations of individuals should never be allowed and that is why I have never told ALL of the story about Weber. The others are NOT here to defend themselve. I had an extensive conversation with someone recently regarding this. Since Weber's past involve living and mostly deceased individuals - it would have to be written as fiction. Things I have read about other suspects ended up in courts - such a the story about McCoy. When the story deals with Seniors - there are many considerations to be taken.... When you make a contract to write a story and all of your subjects /witnesses are seniors extra precautions need to apply. They must be made aware they understand that some thing will be said that might embarasse them and when they ask the writer about specifics the writer need to clean his or her material up to comply. They can advise the seniors to not reveal information without the advice of an attorney so they throughly understand the consequenses. Senior abuse has been rampant in many areas of the Cooper story. Most of my story is about people who are already dead! Hard to write book or be someplace where one sees senior abused everyday and it is no use to warn the offending party...they just keep on keeping on. Crimes Against Seniors and ARRP are trying to stop these suppposed crimes against senior. But is is not my place to do so! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Blevins U take the CAKE. U have no communications with Geestman & U also know due to his advanced age & health & you have drug this out for several yrs - Geestman will NOT be alive to deny the claimes you have made. NOT one of your witnesses - have attempted to go public because they are hiding in shame. YOU made public fools out of them. U never discussed other suspects with them or made pictures of other suspects available to your little group. Did you know an attorney maybe digging into facts regarding your claims? Did U know there maybe an attorney already in touch with your witnesses? Did U know they maybe shown pictures of other suspects & made aware of claims you made & concealment of your promotional actions? Maybe an organization decided to put an end to this form of Senior abuse you have probagated for a story. Crimes AGAINST SENIORS! AARP! Just to name a couple. The manipulated of seniors without providing them all of the options that should have been made available to them. Did YOU advise them they should have their OWN attorney before having them sign a contract? Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

The man does NOT give up. He has the MOST UNLIKELY subject around and yet he goes on & on & on. He KNOWS his subject is NOT Cooper and the most unlikely presented other than McCoy. Rather than try to find MORE proof and to have his subjects come forward with the supposed claims he has made in his book and on this thread... he just continues on course. I make NO sense.

Georger's rely to Blevins: Jo's reply to Blevins & Georger: Chill! Blevins does NOT KNOW what I have on a disk. SLUGGO BROUGHT MANY MAPS WITH HIM OF THE AREAS - MAPS NOT MADE AVAILABLE HERE OR ON HIS SIGHT. He also sent me a disk with maps on it that were NOT on his site and some on his site. Some he had printed in very large expensive lamintated formats. I DO NOT KNOW IF THE MAPS YOU GUYS ARE SEEKING ARE AMONG THE MULIPLE MAPS provided TO ME or ON THE DISK. The disk was sent to me in relation to the flight path. It was very similar to the one the search efforts were using to hunt for Cooper in an on search site posted recently. The flight of the path and the search areas. Blevins seemed to miss the point I could not open them on my computer, but the other woman was able to because she was one of 2 individuals around who had equipment to print MAPS. I could not afford for her to print them. It was yrs ago - I do not know if she can still open them...or if she still is in business. Due to serious health issues I do not have the time to spend on finding someone to open the files & print them. If I can find a map person - I will have them make a copy of the disk and label it & mail it to whoever you guys select to receive this to share. I was not able to open the disk on my computer because of the formatting or the specific program. I suggest 377, but I do not have a mailing address for him. Whoever you guys jointly decide on is OK, but NOT Bruce or Blevins or Grey or Cook. Many of you know I keep confidential information confidential...so it is up to you guys & what the Dr. has to unload on me this wk. It is NOT looking good....the wording was strong & adamant I be there to talk about treatments procedures. Cancelled the last appt...but retrived the disk & the result of the tests from a connected facility - I am also able to read and interpert the disks without a radiologist report.... enough knowledge to scare the Hell out of myself! My car is not feeling well & I need time to compose myself before facing the DR. Between the car and myself I was unable to make the 28 miles to his office. She is 11 yrs old - a 2003 Rendevous purchased in Nov of that yr & spotless with 76,000 miles but has an expensive ailment. She like myself - has vital organs failing. She has all wheel drive & will cost over 4K to fix. She as valve problems & that would be more money. I noted today the rear shocks are crumbling. We both have a few miles left in us....but, struggle to keep on keeping on. Our repairs have become costly and perhaps useless and I am very tired. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I have the disk of the maps Sluggo gave me and I have actual copies of some of them. I could not open them but the woman who has a shop here was able to open them several yrs ago...they are NOT corrupted. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I know Duane mentioned Jollies & The Corner Tavern - BUT, when was he there? That is the QUESTION. These bars are NOT something a casual visitor to WA would be aware of. Duane was working there or in a program there or with a group from Tx/Ms who went to WA to train. The FBI wants to bury my story, but it is alive and well. IT won't put Weber on the plane, but just putting him in WA is good enough for me right now. Remember Duane would be 90 yrs old this coming June if he was still alive! I want to do is contact Jollies and the Corner Tavern and see if they will promote some fliers for me or know a local media person who will put some pictures up and inquire of the OLDER set if anyone has any old pictures taken over the yrs - 1945 to 1970 in either of these places. I need to know the dates each of the places opened their doors for business. I know the Corner Tavern was torn down after 2001 - BUT, someone should have OLD pictures of the people who used to go there. There has to be archived pictures of the Bars....someone must have something. I want people from WA and those area to send me pictures their grandparents had. Any of you who live in WA - ask around and see what can be dug up... What is the local paper that was active in the ORCHARDS area in 1945 to 1971? A local historian may have access to old photos also. I want to RUN an ad in the papers if they still exist to see if we can scare up any old pics. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Ever hear of this piano player - The name was ELLIE...picture of song book and Ellie below. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Kaye has worked out of the UW's Burke Museum. They don't hire stupid people there, last time I checked. Last Week of SEPT or 1st wk of OCT THE EARLY FALL OF 1979. Duane L. Weber (Dan COOPER) TOOK Jo Weber to TENA's BAR & instructed she STAY in the car. He walked down to the river past a gate and then to the shore line....He walked on the beach close to the fence line which took him from my view and behind the home in place at that time. There was a fence between the house and the tree line. I have asked over and over if there was in Oct of 1979 a wooden shed along the fence line/tree line on beach side of the fence....hidden from the view if one was standing under the Big Oak at the parking area as it existed in 1979. I hesitate to say E or W regarding this location as I thought the house was to the west of the parking area....I have been told that is NOT west...I didn't have a compass and I have always considered the house to be east & west of the parking area. For the benefit of making this simple - PRETEND when you are at the parking area - you are looking directly South (I know that is not true, but it is the only way I can explain what I was seeing). NO one has ever given me an answer or provided any pictures from 1979 regarding the shed. Fazion (the one at the beach when they did the documentary that was never use) told us that at one time there was a shed used to hold the equipment used to keep the area clean and/or boating accessories. In 2001 there was only the tree line and the fence - no shed...when the documentary was done. Duane usually wore ankle high dress boots and they had more of a heel than a loafer or dress shoe. I never understood the Torque even though someone long ago tried to explain it. Since Duane walked down to that beach with a medium Blue windbreaker on with 2 large pockets - He could he easily have had bundles of money in his pockets If he reached down to dig a little hole he might have used the heel of his boots to push the money deeper into the ground and to cover the sand back over it. Then use the heel or boot in a twist and tap the money into the ground. Could the fanning simple be because Cooper pushed the money in a twisting motion to shove it into the sand? DUMB old woman question for Kaye! Because of Duane talking about a leak in the shed of a home of a person he went to see withing a short drive of The Dalles. He was gone for 5 1/2 hours....and I have NO idea where he went. He said the woman's husband had died (so he said) and she asked him to move somethings in the shed. This sounds like something made up to cover up what he was reallyd doing. HE never told me who the old friend was or how long he had been deceased - nor the name of the woman...I do not know how far he went out of the area. He was gone 5 & 1/2 hrs and I HAVE NO idea WHERE he went. He was dirty when he got to the room...and washed up before he put my stuff in the car and we left. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Georger - what happened to Ellie? Where is she? Working in smoke filled bars she is probably deceased. I threw her out to the thread - because some one some place will remember Ellie. Bar Piano players - especially a female will be remembered from the time era.... Maybe just an OLD book Duane kept for some reason...and not connected to Cooper.....Did Ellie work at Jollies at one time? Didn't she play at a couple of the Sing-a-long Bars in WA and OR. The old cook book - Tina for Tena - it is in the book! So were did the Cook Book with a picture of the little girl come from? The Cook Book contained a photo that looked remarkably like Tina Mucklow at age 9 and the book was distributed by a church in the area Tina live in (only 3000) copies made. I have one copy and the woman who wrote it who died a few yrs ago in FL had 2 copies left. She retired to FL & died here. She told me she was very surprised that a copy of her book ended up in Pace Florida. The book was put out to benefit a Church in the area Tina lived at the time of the SKYJACKING. The author claimed NO connection to Tina Mucklow. Said she just like the name. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber