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Everything posted by skyjack71
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The prints for Duane on file with the FBI are the Jefferson prints and they may not be his prints - the FBI will not dig into the back-ups before the system went into place. Unless they have done so recently due to my begging them to do the comparisons. I know for a fact when Duane went to Jefferson that the system Carr claims was in place Was Not to the extent he claimed. The only place to find the correct prints for Duane is to pull all the prints on him that are archived in WA and do a comparison against the Jefferson prints. that went into the system. The FBI won't do it. Carr, have you had the back-ups pulled to compare with the Jefferson prints? Don't tell me the system was in place - NO it wasn't. Unless some reason warranted the prints being checked against the old prints was not done due to cost and time. Did the prints on the DNA items I provided match the file prints for Duane Weber? .
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I am not certain but I believe I am the only one who has stated that Cooper had an Altimeter Watch - simply because Duane told me he used to have one . This was told to me in the yrs prior to my finding the ticket and stub. This was told to me in Virginia Beach, Virginia...Strange I remember where we were at the time - and what we were doing also. This does not indicate that Cooper had such a watch, but Duane did. Duane knew about the Boeings - and I have tried to tell about this but I am all but ignored. That he had access to the schematics and yes, the first 727 didn't fly until after his accessment to these schematics, but doesn't mean he did not keep abreast of them. As for the other knowledge - about the interphone - he and one of his wives had a job for a period of time cleaning the planes - this job didn't last very long from what he said...this too was told to me prior to our trip to WA. as just part of his life. Remember that Duane's brother worked as a consultant for Boeing during the war....the brother would not have been involved, but he himself said that Duane had access to the schematics.
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One cannot go and change the facts just because of money being found in an area that brings questions to surface. If that can be done then is fair to say that one can say that any file can be change to suit whatever someone wants to prove. I have never tried to change the flight information - I would never suggest that the flight information was wrong.
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I am telling what I know and only what I know - the world wants the legend to live on or buy the splatter theory - NO one wants the Truth. What if it were your wife doing everything she can to prove something that you said and it regarded things you said and things you showed her?
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This is getting to be a real JOKE. Look at that statement and tell me WHY they even looked in the Merwin area AT ALL? HOW did they KNOW they were in the suburbs if they didn't have a VISUAL? Remember the FBI has always maintained that COOPER could NOT see or visualize his DZ. By the way - it has been pointed out to me that I said before that my flight to NY was in 1971 and now that I say 1969. It was 1971 - because it was the yr. that I divorced the father of my children. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber
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xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxWho else but the FBI would change things? NOW it is the FLIGHT PATH? They make conclusions about Duane on DNA that is questionable. Note, they do not disclose to the public that the cigarette butts are missing. Now, that I disclosed information I obtained about the Tie to the FBI - and make it public about a Sworn Affidavit taken recently - the FBI starts to alter information made available...was the information we had before correct or is the NEW information available only because of the information I revealed. ODD the FBI refused to get sworn statements from 2 witnesses from 1971, whose information was never validated...and even after it has been brought to their attention again in the last 5 yrs.,, Ckret sends me another email that the FBI investigated Duane. Wants to know if I have seen it - DUH he knows it has not been made available to me. He HAS to know that they did not do the things that I have asked - nor have they followed up on any of the recent information I provided. When the FBI facts and information continues to change - regarding the flight path and other information - How convenient that they can do this - especially following on the heels of the info I made available recently. DOES ANYONE KNOW WHO DENNY NICKOLS IS - HE WAS SUPPOSEDLY A JUMPER???????????????
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====================================== Guys I posted this statement and now another email from Ckret - HE DOES NOT ADDRESS ONE THING I HAVE ASKED ABOVE - WHY! Presumably the investigation done yrs ago suffices. WHAT I am asking about occurred in the last few wks. and the information about the tie occurred only very recently.
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You sure are missing something - about the tie. It is not prints or DNA - it is who the tie may have belonged to and from whom it was taken and the significance of his leaving this treasured souvenir.
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1969 was the first time that I had ever flown in my life - I do not remember the card being placed in a jacket - It was pulled out and kept by the stewardess. Are you sure ABSOLUTELY SURE that in 1971 that they removed the card and put it on the other side of the Jacket -where Cooper could have touched the card? The only time the card was touched on the flight I went on in 1969 was by the stewardess.
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Ckret - You DO NOT answer my questions in private or on the forum or on the phone - this tells me exactly where I stand...I should never have told you about the tie. Now that information will just POOF! The FBI getting a sworn Statement for a certain individual screams conspiracy. I haven't wanted to go there , but the actions of the FBI would lead one to believe exactly that - there was no great conspiracy just Duane's respect for The Great American Way. Yet, I am told to take my information to the Media. Strange that you haven't asked the Clerk and the witness for sworn statements about what they saw that night in 1971 and they have offered them up to you on a silver platter . Who is Denny Nichols??????????????????
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*** ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; Ckret - you are wasting your time, there is NO way that you are going to find bones anywhere near Tena's Bar. Cooper survived and He did not land there. For Cooper to have landed in that area the flight thing would have to be WAY out there. What Happen to Hoffa????????????? The money got there either because of the Flood (maybe resulting in Duane's Statement in the hospital about putting money in a bucket and he couldn't find the bucket or he found one of his buckets and the money was worthless - one of the hiding places was on the Columbia at the cabin across from the airport. Since he had something to do in Seattle and at The Dallas - that would be three opportunities and three hiding places. Different things could have been hidden in different places. Cooper survived and if you would spend your time checking more into Duane's activiities - you will find your answer OR is this just your way fo drowning the case so NO ONE every KNOWS about What Really Happen to Cooper. You DO NOT answer my questions in private or on the forum or on the phone - this tells me exactly where I stand...I should never have told you about the tie. Now that information will just POOF! You seem to want to obscure anything that has to do with anything that might convey conspiracy - especially in an election yr - how appropriate. I haven't wanted to go there , but the actions of the FBI would lead one to believe exactly that - there was no great conspiracy just Duane's respect for The Great American Way. Yet, the FBI spends money to get a statement sworn by a Judge inrespect to the Cooper Case that shouts Conspiracy and nothing else and I am told to take my information to the Media. Strange that you haven't asked the Clerk and the witness for sworn statements about what they saw that night in 1971 and they have offered them up to you on a silver platter. Who is Denny Nichols??????????????????
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????????????????????????????????????????????_______________________________________________ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ That is the area that I have repeatedly told about - when his thought he had missed his turn. The river turned out to be a Lake so I found out in 2000. But up from the lake is the Hill with the Fence and the area he pointed to and told me that before the undergrowth you could walk for miles. Then from that point he doubles back and retracts and I have never figured out exactly where we went - I now know we went North, but indirectly. There were two intersecting roads but we are still in a very wooded place - we were on our way to 500( I have been told that this was not 500 back then but it led into it), but he turnes some place on me - this is when we went to this area that he told me there used to be a tower there and about the rails - that were in the direction he was pointing. What makes me think he rode one of those little cars for checking the rails is that somewere in all of this he told me what fun it was to use one of them. He could have landed not far from that point. From that clearing he tells me about the rail lines - that the lines (power and gas) crossed the rails. As we got back to the road that would take us to Seattle he mentions that over there pointing South from what is now 500 that there was a small airport and a signal tower - He definitely said Signal tower on that - one of the few towers he gave a name to other than fire or just tower.
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+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ That money got there because a fool threw it away because was upset that it was worthless - he thought it would just sink and never be found. He wasn't thinking - just walking away from the past. Then a few months later someone finds it. Duane knew the money was worthless and he had not seen the paper - i am the one who went out to get the paper - he was getting out of the shower and I glanced at the front page - then fixed breakfast - the paper disappeared - I didn't get to read the rest of the article - WONDER WHY? Shortly after that Duane announce that his territory was being given to someone else - but I found out later he resigned (after his death) when I found a copy of his resignation giving me and my daughter as the reason to go back South. He left within a week or two of the program about the money (which he did not allow me to see) - remember that he conveniently made sure we went out that night (a wk day night) - WHY? He didn't know what was in the program - but he knew the heat was on and he had to get out of the West and back to the South were no one was looking for Cooper. He takes a dead-end job that didn't pay well with no leads in AL. Then we head back to GA. and he get the opportunity to go back to the Company and work out of VA. He shows me the place McCoy was killed at - he expresses regrets that the copy cat got killed - he refuses to take a promotion - saying he has to keep a low-profile. I ask why. No answer. He takes the promotion but immediately grows a Mustache and very full head of long hair. In his frenzy and anger he had ignited the search and attention to Cooper once again - that is why he did all of the other things. Plus he was terrified that I would put 2 and 2 together. He leave Co and my daughter only had about 3 months before graduation - he comes back for graduation and leaves again - meaning that my daughter and I had to handle the move. Fast in and fast out...we joined him sometime in June. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber
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Ckret why don't you explain that it was the boarding pass and not a piece of paper normally handled by the passenger as it is sandwiched between carbon and paper.??????[/b]
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Quote One of those places was this spot on the river... a person with her told her that there used to small cabins or "shacks" as you say. Now there are homes. My understanding of this particular location is that it's somewhere between the I-5 and I-205 freeways. Skyjack71, if I'm incorrect on any of the above, please correct it. reply] I am here and NO that is not right. We were way East of I-5. Parallel with the Columbia. East of the Vancouver bridge - almost across from the Airport - remember he told me that if were not for the trees that I could see the Tower. The riverlady told me there used to be a cabin there. Duane had told me in later yrs that the only way to get away with a crime is to go right back at them. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber
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Quote "You asked about a possible old hunter's shack. Well, I don't know about this, BUT on that beach where the money was found, there are a few buildings that might be described as a shack. I don't know if they were there in 71 though. If there were, my guess is these were all searched in 1980 as was that whole beach. " Wasn't Weber referencing a couple of shacks where he buried somthing according to Jo???? He later tried to return to this area on a "sentimental Journey" Could one of these been built on stilts to keep dry fromm flooding thus have " a lookout tower" look to it, as also Jo referenced? If this is the case Cooper buries the money behind these buildings located right where the first money was recovered and washes down to the river and goes bye bye. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I never said anything like that! This is the way it was: I was at Tena' Bar in 2000 - there were no shacks there - it used to be a farm. I referrence cabins and not shack and the area of concern is much further EAST. NOT as Tena's Bar. On the Sentimental Journey - he took me to what I think was his safe place and that was a long way from his drop. He did take me to the Columbia after we left Seattle on the way to Tahoe To where there used to be an old Cabin - which is not there anymore...this is when he went down the hill and told me to stay in the car. Then after that we went to a Motel just below the Vancouver Bridge where he tossed something in the river - but this package was already in the car - I thought it was trash - I went to the restroom and when I returned he had already discarded this bag. Note, the trash can was empty at the site. The ONLY time I have been to Tena's bar was when the TV crew took me there in 2000 ---I refused to get on the beach and act like I was looking for money - because when we got there I was ADAMANT that this WAS not the PLACE he took me to IN 1979. I walked away from the Crew and Himmelsbach back to the cars...I was crying and wanted to be alone. I was not going to pretend this was the area Duane took me to in 1979.
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++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ??????????????????????????????????????????????? How many times do I need to state that the money was put there in 1979...after Duane dug it up earlier - either in the Dallas area or at the Columbia location where the cabin used to be. He also left one day when we were in Seattle - he almost didn't make it for Dinner - I had to go on down to the Dining Room by myself. The afternoon was a free one and he needed to do something alone. As I have said repeatedly - he never put all his eggs in one basket. For GOD's sake someone listen to me - Please listen - Please.[ I know Duane hit the ground North and West of the area he took me because he took me North and slightly West - the area that I couldn't find...I did not have a car when I was out there and at the mercy of others. Maybe if I had just have gone out on my own - feeling my way from memory points - maybe I could have found it. When you get to an intersection around and before you get to 500 -as it was in 1979. You go directly north and then West ...that is where the towers used to be - and West of those towers would be some tracks. These tracks to north and I think back eastward. They go a long ways - almost to Merwin. Just were he got on those track I don't know - but it was a pump car and it would be above Battle Ground not the town as I understood it but something a few miles from that or beyond that point. I don't know where he found the pump car or how far he rode it...but he jumped it at the pipeline and powerlines - then he was back on foot - he had to get to a certain area. How long it took him I don't know. I do know two locations that he probably held up - for how long I don't know. Then he had to get to the cabin on the Columbia and then get out of the area. Please listen to me - Please! The route, the money, the ticket, the stub, the bag, the confession, the tie, the reason for the jump, he looked like Cooper, he was a 6 time felon, he knew the area, he knew about the Boeing (in detail). the knew about diving (I can't put him in a chute) but if the FBI searched his background enough - they might find it. The fact that he disappeared for a couple of months, the fact that he bought 2 new cars in late 71 or early 72 without viable income, that he had injuries he said he got trimming a tree. Please, do what I asked you to do on that tie...that is your answer and my salvation. Stop wasting time and take time to look at the facts....it is simple, but everyone is making it complicated.
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You have stated the below: How I feel about this: What is that going to prove? - what has been done over and over. What is needed is actual hands on investigation of the leads provided. AND answers to lots of questions. I have already told you about the money and I told you all how and when. I also told you all about where he landed and the contact area he went to ...and waited. I never told you what he waited for...why should I? You haven't believe anything I have told you so far.
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_______________________________________________ The FBI sent me a message - take it to the media. That means they are not going to do anything about the information I gave them - WHY! I was told that the FBI did go see a man ( just a wk or so ago) whose story I thought some what odd, but was able to give part of his story credence because he placed Duane and his wife in an area she had "forgotten" to mention, but did verify later. This man told me they took his statement and it was sworn to before a judge. His story is what I call the "conspiracy theory". I do not buy his story, but do believe that he indeed did know Duane. It is about time that the FBI tells us what is really going on. The information I have has nothing to do with this man - but because he had mentioned repeatedly an item - and information was provided about this specific item inadvertently by another party who has absolutely nothing to do with the man mentioned above. Both stories conflict each other - one involves a souvenir taken by Duane and the other involves a conspiracy. And the FBI agent said "Take it to the Media". I want to know why the FBI would say this - ? He knows that I do not want to be put down as the crazy lady of the century - I think this is a very cruel thing for an FBI agent to tell someone who is working their heart out to bring an end to this. Ckret, it time for you to stop beating around the bush - put up or shut up! You and the FBI are the ones playing games with the lives and well being of others. If the FBI has CONCRET evidence that Duane was not COOPER then it is time they present that evidence - such as he was somewhere else. The FBI knows that I have been careful not to incriminate other individuals - when I could have done so. I am so angry right now that I sound crazy, but guys how would you feel? "Go to the Media" but with no explanation - as to why I should go to the media.. Just "TAKE IT TO THE MEDIA". He knows that I don't want to do that - he wants to solve this crime - why would he ignore any clue that might explain many things. But they choose to visit a man who says that Duane was Cooper and get sworn documents - yet, tell me to take what I have to the Media. I am sorry, I just don't get it. Do they want me to make a bigger fool out of myself than I have already made - What I was asking them to investigate would not take a lot of time or money - and they tell me to take it to the media. This information is not readily available to the public. I wanted some kind of documentation on what I told them so I would not embarrass myself should it turn out not to mean anything - All of this is enough to drive the most sane person absolutely crazy - they want answers, but the way they go about it is just not ethical or humane. I am sorry guys but my heart is just breaking into - I found what I think is the needle in the haystack and they obviously do not want to even give it a cursory look. I am crying very hard right now so if there are mistakes - forgive me. I will try later to make a post explaining what that needle in the hay stack was...maybe then you guys can help me decide what to do with it. Mouse, I wish you were here to hold me.