skyjack71

You said the new information is out - where? Has Sluggo posted the flight path he was working on? Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I expect you will bias the show to present this in a way that will support your "theory" rather than allow it to be a "honest" representation with all factors taken into perspective. You will "force" the landing zone to be presented in the area that most lilkely would support your eagerness to dismiss suspects that the FBI has not and do not want to admit might be or are "Cooper". I dare you to do this above board and that will entail your letting the flight information speak for itself without YOUR interpretations which are what you think and not always fact. Personal opinions of you or the FBI should not be involved. There is the original fight information and the currently being revised fight information. The one person who should speak is the Co-pilot as he is the only one left alive that can interpret anything that may or may not have happened or was said. He might also be able to provide to those determining the possible flight paths - something so insignificant that he didn't think about it at that time. As you have presented yourself in this forum you are not consistent and "your" information is not consistent. You put too many of your 'theories" into play rather than relying on fact. You still owe me an apology regarding how you discredited me on national TV by saying I had known about the DNA since Feb of 2007 and not in Late Oct when you called me just before going public about the DNA. Mistakes like that should NOT be made, plus you do not really have anything that will dismiss Duane Weber as a suspect and I will prove that in OCT. I am going to do what the FBI has not done - get answers to my questions. It would be decent of you if you have any of these answers to provide them to me, but not in the forum as you provided Duane's criminal record to me. At least you apologized for that error in judgement....but, I felt it was intentional. Sorry Guys. but these things need to be said - this needs to be fair (a re-inactment) if it is to be done. The only way to be sure it is done fair is to knock heads with CKret now and not wait until he gets on national TV and makes more blunders that damage and emotionally hurt others by making errors.., perhaps unintentionally. NOT making corrections of such statements is not what one expects of those who are here to protect us and keep us from harm. The FBI is accountable for what its agent say and do. I am sorry to have to come down on you this way and I am sure I will be reprimanded by others in the forum, but it needs to be said. Others have come down on me - and I try to learn by my errors and by experience. You represent as an FBI agent what this country stands for - that needs to be foremost accuracy, honesty and the realization that personal opinions do not play a part in your duties as an FBI agent. What is the expression "First do no harm". Leave the personal opinions at home that day and you will do just fine. Do not answer questions that are not appropriate and never guess at an answer. You are not a hydrologist, a pilot, or engineer - leave that part to the experts. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Get on a plane and go to Wa and go to Tena's bar. When you get there you will see that it is impossible to get debris from Salmon Creek and River lake by the route you are indicating. There is lots of land there and the one house that I saw. The water would have to go over hill and dale and flood the Fazio Farm house that was there in 2001 and sat many feet above the river level to put debris on Tena's Bar. Do you really know how much land is between the point where the creek feeds into River Lake and Tena's Bar - that was high dry land - pastures and fences in 2001 and I expect it is today...I did not even see River Lake - it was far away from Tena's Bar. The Fazio's would know if all of their land and home flooded...come on. Go to WA and then make these posts otherwise change gears. Lets get back to the DZ - this is a total waste of time...because you are going to find out you are wrong. I will still check on this reverse flow you are talking about but it will not explain how the money got on Tena's Bar from that location. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

It is bizarre to anyone who has never met me or does not know me. I did not know the name of the highway just that it was the Road on the North side of the Columbia and that we crossed over a dam and we were high and I could see lots of boats - Duane thought it was heaven, but in my travels I had seen things I thought more of and was not so impressed. By the way it is Hwy 14 not 17. As a child and all of the yrs growing up my father took us on 2 to 4 wk vacations every summer and during Christmas we went to FL. Daddy felt the best education was by seeing and feeling - and travel was his way of providing us with the experiences he felt valuable. We knew to take everything in - because he would ask us about it later. When we got home and back to school we wrote and told of our travels - so you can say it was bred into me...he was the first farmer to bring white faced angus to the state of Ky. I remember his seeing the cows for the first time and his statement about them on a one of our trips. Later he would go and buy a few of the cows and he had the first White faced Black angus herd in Ky in the 50's. I remember almost everything about that part of the trip even when Duane tried to trip me up because he realized he said something that might reveal his secret. He did not go about the rest of the trip from that point in a logical manner - he was doubling back. I remember that the highway became wider with more lanes just before he said that. He thought he had missed his turn and I was reaching for the atlas. Before I could find it on the atlas or at the same time he said "There it is". I remember almost every turn we made and you know I found those things after the TV crew left - they had taken me to places that did not fit the dsecription of where I was - I kept telling them it was wrong - and they went very fast. I spent an extra day on my own and found the places I was looking for - everything I had repeatedly over and over and over had told the FBI and Himmelsbach and anyone who would listen. I found them even after Jerry Thomas who is supposed to be the expert told me that nothing existed that fit that description in that area. Yet it was all there right down to the pastures and the fences and the Washougal being on my left. He and others had told me that was NOT possible. I found my way and that is all I care about. I proved Jerry was wrong and I have only talked to him once since then. I did talk to him one time after I was out there and he told me he would check the area out, but I never heard from him again and he is very hard to get hold of. He didn't have a phone and you had to leave a message for him to call you. Himmelsbach told me he hears from him every once in awhile. Yes, my memory about somethings was bred into me. I could walk and ride (by horse-back the hills and knobs (some would call them mountains) of Casey County Ky. --- I alway got back to my Grandparents home without getting lost. Just chalk it up to the way I was raised - my brother is better than I am in recall. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Who is hedging? I said 5 gal. paint buckets - I don't care if they are plastic, metal or papermache - just the fact that they are 5 Gal. buckets. I am not trying to "hedge" anything and I really don't know what that means. I might not say exactly what I am trying to say. I am sure that if you go back to all of the forums and the materials I sent to the FBI you will find I said 5 gal bucket - saying plastic wasn't meant to be set in concrete. I did NOT examine the buckets in that shed to see what they were made of. Sorry - I am not a geek just a woman trying to get the truth told.... That was real picky just lilke an FBI agent. Just like they are known to interogate suspects. Are you taking a on-line course from the FBI thru CKRET? Sure made me feel like it...that is his tactics, Also note the dates on the backflow channels - I suspect that the person you are being fed this information by is none other than DBCoopercatcher but you know him by another name - he claimed to be an engineer at one time. This is the man who said that Mayfield was Cooper. Haven't heard much about him lately but you can bet he is out there plugging away. I will ask my source about this back flow channel and the reversing of the flow. The way you have explained it is different than my laymans way of telling him what was being said. I will talk to him again in a few days, but I am not going to call him again this weekend. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

IF ANY OF YOU ARE DEPENDING ON THESE THINGS THAT SNOWMMAN AND GEORGER HAVE POSTED FROM THEIR ON-LINE SEARCH - YOU ARE GOING TO BE DISAPPOINTED. The Lake River and Lake Vancouver along with Salmon Creek - does not work. AS PER - two individuals who live there and know the river and its surrounding. Those bodies of water are not as you are theorizing with your maps. Lake River flows N. and Salmon Creek empties into the River Lake all of which is above Tina's Bar and the water flows NORTH - therefore those avenues are impossible.

SNowmMan sorry that post was for Georger - he knows what I am referring to. My computer or connection does not allow me to make quotes so I have to copy and paste to make a post. He sent me a map asking about land between the Shoreline road to the farm and the Rail Road Tracks. As for the gate and being obscure - perhaps you do not understand what I am trying to say and I don't know how to say if better so you don't try to make jumble pie out of it. I am tired. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Now, that makes sense. Perhaps that is why the money was already set aside for such an incident - in a vault. The trap had already been set for a hijacker? Maybe? Or did they have such technology in 1971 and if so would they have used it.? Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I do not know where that 'can" in your picture was stored - obviously in a dry place and not in the ground around the Columbia...where it was subject to the wet ground. The contents of that can have obviously been dry and not wet and in a very dark place. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I do not open most of the pictures, because I do not want to confuse what is in my mind. You have posted so many pic it is impossible to look at all of them. Sorry, but I have other things I have to do besides this forum. They may not have been paint cans but they were 5 gallon plastic and metal cans - they were right there in the back of that shed - the man's daughter said they had been there since she could remember. I can contact her and let her verify this in an email to me then I will post the email. I may call her if I still have her number somewhere. All of this has already been checked before. Duh! They were in a paper bag and I do not know how they may have been protected inside of that bag - they could have been wrapped in plastic or bundled in some way. This is an unknown factor. Believe what you want - but back then we didn't litter - we did not even throw a cigarette butt out the window or chewing gum wrap. We knew what that did to the birds. I leave the other theories up to you guys - I just try to defend what I know - I look and listen to the possibilities, but so far no one has been very convincing. You all are going on and on about that land - at Fazio's and you have never been there. Oh, but I am listening and watching - I have seen some individuals make real ---'s out of themselves and then be proven wrong. There have been other suspects and other theories over the last 13 yrs and there are those that came before. You have a lot of research to do on me before you can really say that...have you read all of the other forums prior to DZ? Have you read every book? Have you talked to people who were involved? What exposure did you have until this forum and this tread. Want to see my many suitcases of things - pictures, maps --- I can't add much more. Most of the pics were repetitive, but the money - I opened that on a whim - it is not necessary to consume myself with every detail and every pic posted. I do try to have a life regardless of the limitations. I do keep an open mind. I do continue to research (the FBI doesn't). Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Georger - GUYs look at the map. The area you have outlined is away from Tena's bar - think about the houses over there and the road that goes along the river. That other road over where the track are - I was not over there. It may have been a road we came down before we turned off to the river, but - we were already on the river road before that point. At least that is what I remember .. I had lots of people asking me questions and I don't remember how we got there. I just know we came down a road and before Tena's bar we turned to our Left toward the river and went along the river. There was a parking area and West of that was the farm house. In between these two areas was the gate to the beach... but this road was on the river and what you are indicating might be on the main artery going to the farm. I paid no attention to the land coming into the area and the area you are designating I would not have seen. I will make a call to Himmelsbach this week end and he may know. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

The"purple" staining. I am not a scientist, but I have lived long enough to have experience many things. Mold and mildew leave purple and gray stains - this appears to be a mold or mildewed area that has been bleached out by the water and soil in the Columbia. ]Now I will state that if the money had been in the WATER 7 yrs...there would be no mold or mildew. Hence why the FBI and the specialist who examined the money in 1971 - said it had been in a protected area for a period of time. They knew it had NOT been in the water for 7 yrs.The money was hidden in a place near the water - in a large plastic paint can near a house on the Columbia - the can was buried. When the money was retrieved in 1979 he knew it was no good. Bugs had eaten it and water had seeped in causing the money to mold, mildew and rot and stick together. Perhaps some of the money was more protected and secured. The damaged money he threw away. When it hit the water - it may have been caught up some place for a while...but it made its way to Tena's bar and was later found. Forensic testing will prove that was mold and mildew - after it was subjected to water and soil and sun. That is how it looks. Thank for posting that picture - I had never seen anything like this and I just do not go looking for these things - but, Snowmman you are a man of many talents. That ONE photo - enforced what I have said for yrs and yrs and yrs and what Duane told me about the money...when I noted the article in the paper about the find "I know its' worthless". That ONE photo proved beyond a doubt in my mind that the MONEY was not in the water for 7 yrs and NOT in the money bag beneath the waters of the Columbia. I feel sure that I can get this backed up by testing of such a bill and I am willing to pay for it if the FBI will provide a bill with this particular staining on it. I am not rich, but I feel confident enough about this to invest my hard earned money into it. Perhaps one of Ckrets TV programs would like to take this on. The more I learn the more it enforces everything I have said for 13 yrs - and my efforts to do so alone and fighting the elements (the FBI) and the nay sayers has destroyed my health. This picture of that bill was a VICTORY...one I know the FBI will not make go away. I believe that others can make the same judgement from the photo alone. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

OK. Duane went NO WHERE near Tena's bar. The closest we got was the Red Lion Inn at the bridge. When I was at Tena's bar in 2001 there was a farm house there so that pic was taken after 2001...or I am not seeing it. Himmelsbach and I parked up where you see cars and went thru a gate that had been opened for us - it was about 1/4 to a foot ball field length to the Trees which where much larger than they were in 1980...from other pictures I have seen of the actual site. Yes many of Byans photos are pose at other location and one is the dig site after the find several wks later when it snowed again. After you get to the trees in 2001 there it was about 60 feet to the water - the location Himmelsbach pointed out to was closer to the trees and about 20 to 25 feet from the tree line...and about 25 feet from the water - this was May of 2001. I would say from my observations that the water line was low at that time. If you looked down stream to the East you would see trees closer to the water line - it was explained to us that in 1980 the shoreline looked more like that than what we were currently looking at in 2001. Do you understand this? - meet me there in OCT. The layers of Sand or whatever to the right or North of the road and before the tracks - seemed like it was ALL pasture land in 2001. But I would not have been able to see any further than the one pasture that you can see in the photo. I am sure Safecrack knows what they are and infact I believe he addressed all of that in his posts in describing the area... I will make a phone call this wk end and get the answers for you. It is NOT stone slabs - that is a very large area you have to remember what you are looking at. I may be something that the Sand farm does to clean the sand - a process to whiten it for building purposes...just a guess. As for Duane going that far - NO. He knew that river and what was on it that is for sure. How, when and why that is the question. Cooper did not land in the water nor did he physically go to Tena's bar. The closest Cooper go to Tena's bar is the Red Lion Hotel at the bridge. The Tena's bar area is not very populated - only a fool would allow himself to be in a place that someone would question his presence. I promise you after seeing the area in 2001 - COOPER who ever he was did NOT put that money there. It got there by flow of the water - and as per Safecrack it did not get there by the Willamett or the Vancouver lake or that creek that runs along there. He knows that area like the back of his hand...the kid was raised on that river and he lived to be on that river - there is not a nook or crany that he does not know...but he was not even born with Cooper jumped...but his reseach is very thorough and he has lived there all of his life. I will also talk to Himmelsbach and a couple of others that might help me out with this information - none of the people are posters or use computeres to any extent other than an email. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

We were going to Seattle for a managers meeting, but he wanted to take a couple of extra days. He took me to Salt Lake City (I had been there as a young woman) with my family. He was very familiar with the church - he mentioned he had attended a funeral not to far away at another church - he was comfortable there and he wanted us to make The Duells area before night fall. I got the impression that the Salt Lake area had something to do with his wife with whom he had a child in 1946. He did not refer to the trip as a Sentimental Journey - it was a song he sang with many bands and at piano bars - I have never heard anyone sing that song the way he could - not even professionals such as Sinatra, Como, Tom Jones and Englebert. It was a tone and a sound that needed no music - his voice was the music...he always recieved applause and chants of MORE, MORE. That night he told me that we had a late check out for the next day and that he had something he needed to do (I could sleep in) - he set his clock for 5:30 but did not get up until 6:30. He was never one to linger after the alarm, but he had a restless night. He did not get back until after check-out. I will not repeat the story of the things that happened during the rest of that day and for the duration of the trip. I will jump to our turning down the highway in Or. toward Vegas - I thought we were going home, but he informed me that we were going to Tahoe. I do not know where the money came from for us to go to Tahoe - he did NOT want to go to Reno and basically told me there were reasons he could not go to Reno. He was not welcome in Reno and absolutely refused to take me there. He explained our having extra money by saying the Company gave him a bonus - no there was no bonus. He was reliving a trip he made many yrs ago 1971 after the hijacking and where he went afterwards and he was NOT alone when he left Wa in 1971. He went to the Modesto area and then to San Francisco - home of the trolley cars and he told me a story about this trip that later allowed me to know the time of the trip - 1971. The 1971 trip would not end until January with a New Years Celebration in N.Y. Sure had a lot of money for a man with NO job. I am the one who labled it Sentimental Journey - he told me nothing more than he had somethings to take care of and this is how he explained his absence several times on that trip to WA. He was very happy in WA after his disappearance early that day in Seattle (his second disappearance). Note: clowning around...unusually cheerful and playful. Beaming is a better description. It was the next day we left for Tahoe. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

HOW MANY TIMES do I have to scream my story about the tracks and where they went - go back to the first thread - go back to Unsolved Mysteries, FBI - go back to the original information I present in 1996. I have screamed shouted raved and pointed out these track over and over and over. These track played a very important part in what Duane told me. These tracks used to have parallel tracks running along the area on the river he took me to...the same tracks that you mentioned go right to this spot. Duane made a point to tell me about those track when we went to the Columbia - I don't know why, He did say that the trains slowed down there...but the conversation just didn't mean anything to me and time has taken my memories away, but not all of them. When he pointed out the tracks he aalso pointed to a berm and told me that just over that berm there used to be some nice homes. You could not see any homes from the point we were at. The tracks separated us from from the berm. The steep bank going down to the Columbia was on our Southside. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

. It will not make one IOTA what anyone else presents because YOU will make it sound like it HAD to be your WAY. What you think and not what anyone else thinks. Such as your senario of the bag coming down the Washougal - where is your mind - have you not understood any of the past posts that tell you THAT is NOT Possible. Yet you will make it sound like you want it to sound and how you want the public to percieve this. Like all of the other things you go on record as saying - such as the fact that you stated that I was informed about the DNA in Feb of 2007 - YOU KNEW that WAS not TRUE. Yet, not one time have you made sure that was retracted. This is but one example because it personally involved me. There have been many others. If you can not be truely unbiased and open to ALL possibilities then you should not even attemt this. What you do not know about programs like that is this - they film lots of footage (5 or 6 hours) and show 30 mins of it and maybe omit the most important things. If you do this thing - MAKE SURE IT IS FAIR for every senario - not just what the FBI wants the world to think. PS: Make sure the jumper has smoke jumping experience if you use a loose hanging bag...but you know that is not where all of the money was. That he removed part of the of the money from the bag in order to secure the bag. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

BUT, the FBI has some of the money - why haven't they released those for anaylsis - todays technology might have something there. Seems they would have kept soil samples just incase they needed to revisit the site for future needs. Do you know for a fact that they have not run more tests on the money and that no soil samples were kept? ASK CKRET? REASON for knowing who owned the house and what that business was - both prior to our going to the hotel at the bridge in Vancouver where he threw the sack into the water. I believe that he did not just get to that cabin by coincidence - I think he knew who owned it. Maybe it was the caretaker for the old house in LaCames or the man who owned the Dollar Corner Tavern - just a couple of guesses. Maybe the man who owned it is one of the many names I have mentioned to the FBI in the past? I will need access to the county tax record for just one day to find that information. I may not know the address of the cabin but I know about where it was - there were not that many cabins on the river at that time. Finding businesses for that time period will be a piece of cake if they owned the property - if they leased it - that is a different story. Remember I am a retired real estate agent and record searches are not a problem. If I had access to plated maps from 1971 I could do it from here. Then it is a matter of asking or paying a county clerk to access the archives on the land...just like a title search. CKRET ATTENTION: What will the FBI do if one of those names shows up on the county records? Will they listen more carefully to me or continue to ignore me? By the way it should not be difficult for you to find out who owned the Dollar Corner store in 1971 and all so who was running it. I dare you to do it - I do truely dare you to do it...then connect that name to DUANE WEBER - it can be done. This one is a fact...but I don't know what the connection was....the other place was a building in the same location, but across the street - antique store or such. The property owner of that one in 1971 and or the name of who was running a business in the location. One of these names will be something like Nutesell - Knutsel - knutesome or Knuteson. Will really look bad for the FBI if I come out there in OCT and find what I need with just a few title searchs for 1971. If I connect those properties to anyone I have named - it spells conspiracy from day one a certain name comes up. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

This is ridiculous - I have to be able to look at all of the possiblities - it is NOT a matter of what I believe or KNOW. But, a matter of proving it to everyone else.

Wondered how long it would take you to find that. All you had to do was ask Safecrack. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

. What I am saying is that it is not important in the scheme of things. I do not fill my mind with the trivia - I keep to the basics and that is enough to keep up with. The fact that they owned a sand company is not relevant to the story. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

None of us are geologist and hydrologist - to keep hashing this around is a waste of time and only confuses everyone - I suggest someone get the FACTs - FLOODS, water levels, etc. and stop this useless thing until then. It is a fact that the beach was open to lots of traffic back then - both human and animal. I don't know anything about the Fazio's dredging - that was new to me - all I know is that they owned the land the money was found on and how they used that land. All so note that the island you see across from Tena's bar was NOT there in 1971. The levels of the silt - read again and learn???? This was investigated very thoroughly before and determined the layers - they did not actually ever say which layer the money was in - it if was only 1 inch or 2 inches - it was not there very long. Because Bryan found the money by raking his hands across the sand means it was NOT deep. The spot that Bryan actually found the money is closer to the trees...as per what was shown to me in 2001. Also the beach was not as wide in 1971 as it is today or was in 2001. Taking something here and there and not a FULL study - well, forget it - this is totally boring and not gaining any ground in anyway toward solving this. The time needs to be spent getting facts...about the levels , activities, floods - a full calendar of events from 1971 to 1980. Also pictures for each yr of the beach - if possible. Contact the locals and ask for help. People do help when they are asked. This is what I intend to do in Oct. ASK the people to help me. I also want as much as possible done in the way of research before I go...surely there is some one in that area who can tell you everything about that river and that area that has ever happened. Somewhere I have the date of the flood - because I know it happened before 1979. The house was gone. Don't even ask me about what house and how I know it was gone - just believe me a house was gone. The RIVER LADY who I have referred to before lived about a football fields lenght and one-half from the house - the home she lived in sat higher, but the house was closer to the rivers edge and lower and very old.. It was actually more cabin than house from what I was told. This is one piece of property I want to know who owned it in 1971. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Jo said: Snowmman said: These are documented - the brothers who own the Fazio farm and the fisherman - all stated that the ONLY time the water had been to that level within the last yr (preceding the find) was the spring run off and the melting of the snow 2 WEEKS prior. Did you sleep thru that post? - go back and read it. Go to the news clips and interviews of the Fazio brothers and the local fishermen in the area. This is why that "whatever thing" is not making any sense. The brothers ran their cattle on that beach for water and they said there was NO WAY that the money was on that beach for more than a few days or a couple of weeks. Farmers know their land. As far as editing something is concerned - I have to place the post and then edit to make spelling and other errors. My browser or me won't let me do it before posting. I was quoting the words of the author of the article - as he quoted Coffelt. If I do spell check I loose the post. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Why do I feel like I am in the middle of a skyjacking? In 2008? No, No, it's not a plane it's a computer with Galen Cook as the Pilot and Carr riding shotgun. Snowmman jump man - it is your only escape. Not one soul on board realizes what is happening. Sluggo - Safecrack - help - the highjackers are getting away - they don't want the loot - they want the darn plane. Geeze! That plane sure looks like a computer. By Golly - Gee Whiz - what is a Gal to do - just sit there and have a drink -Opps, I forgot I can't drink. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

ARE you SURE you aren't on the PAYROLL of Galen Cook. You totally ignored the fact that the water rose when the snow melted 2 wks before the find. The only rising of water except the spring run-off that would have put water over the area the money was found in. DOCUMENTED - by a man who paid the big bucks - Tosaw. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I felt this was where you were taking your Willamette thing and why I asked for the map in a portable manner. From the Lake - not possible. From the air Not likely - due to the fight area - it would have to be way West for something as large as that bank bag to drop into Tena's bar and that doesn't explain why only the 3 bundles were found. What Hydrologic process? - a real one or one contocted by false information? Lets use facts...I do not know anything about what you all are talking about, but I have help on the other end now - but he will not come to the site - please send the map so I can email it to him. He will provide technical information based on study series hence the Willamette thing he needs to see...he currently says "hogwash" No way the money could get to Tena's bar by way of Vancouver Lake. Remember that the money was close to the surface and it had been protected of most of the 7yrs.,,considering the condition of the found money it had NOT been in the water for 7 yrs. Ckret agreed to this then contradicted himself - so he doesn't really know, so there will be no help from the FBI. It has been stated in 1980 and as of recent that the money would not have survived for 7 yrs in the water. It had to have been protected for part of that time - buried and contained. Please send the map in a portable manner to my regular email - and I will send copies of your posts (because I cannot relay things I do not understand)and the map to him. He will NOT visit the forum, but we NEED his help or to be honest I NEED HIS HELP. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber