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In August of 2000 Tina was STILL a nun and it was not known if Tina would be ALLOW to view photos of Weber. A man called R.J. McHatton of White Knuckels Production wanted to speak with me - but I was not going that route - I just wanted answers. Do not believe I contacted him. Perhaps a courtesy call of appreciation. I was then contacted by a woman I have stayed in touch with all of these yrs. and spent a night with her family in 2001 and then again in 2010. She has become a good friend...her information is privileged. My horrible accident happened during all of this....but no dates - I guess I blocked it all out. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Bill Mitchell contacted Margie wanting my contact info on August 5, 2000. Hal William the gate agent. Hal tells her he was probably one of the few who saw Cooper without his glasses on. He tells Margie about Cooper. "A nasty day. As I explained to the FBI yrs ago, he was conspicuous. This was 1971 when we wore polyester and plaid and funny shoes and gaudy shirts. The boarding area had lots of businessmen dressed just like that. All except this one man, Dan Cooper, who was dressed all in black. It was unusual: black pants, shoes, black raincoat. It was like he was trying to hide, in black. But when you try to look inconspicuos, sometimes you make yourself even more conspicuous." Later, Hal was one of the witnesses who helped the FBI create compositie drawing of Cooper. "But I never did think they were very goood. They didnt' look like him at all. Bu I was just one of many who helped put them together." This all come from a man WHO WAS THERE IN 1971. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

On August 1 2000 Margie contacted me for the first time. It was a request to do an article. I was reluctant, but she was determined to win me over. She had also read what the Pensacola New Journal wrote. "After reading them, I thought it might be helpful to write about your research. Perhaps the person your husband tried to look up in Portland in 1971 (but, evidently couldn't find) would come forward." Therefore this verifies the fact I did tell the FBI about the man Duane talked about and they had no interest in finding - nor did they try to do so. Margie was a very good writer and I gave her a hard time when I finally decided to do it. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

In 2000 Jo went public with the U.S. News and world reports - because the FBI was NOT listening. In 2001 Jo goes to Washington with a documentary group. WHEN did Margie Boule do her article? Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

WHAT is wrong with the statement above - think about this before you answer? Think about when Jo went public with Weber and the dates listed in the above statement. Think about Margie Boules article that was Front Page in what yr...was it 2001? Think about another suspect never made public who came forward of his own accord around that time....but, asking for the FBI to give him immunity. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Seems like this thread gets blamed for what is going on in the other place! One lashes out every chance he has about someone who does not even post there....malicious things that are demeaning and slanderous. If we did that in this thread we would be either on vacation or exiled. Now Georger is happy - he was able to get everyone to agree the flight was West over Portland. Based on the money find? Absurd in my opinion because of what the Co-pilot said and even Sluggo put the flight East of their claims. So now they are dissing Sluggo and the co-pilot. I believe these guys continue to spew myths just so they have something to talk about. It is a know fact in the ORCHARDS area - they heard the flight go over - and it was the flight and not a chase plane... There was a bar in Orchards and those guys will tell you the plane passed very near them....Their first thought was the jump strip just South East of their location....guess who it belonged to? None other than the subject of Bruce's last conversations. AT the time they were not aware of the skyjacking - so it was all in after thought and it was THANKGIVING eve & some of them were supposed to be elseswhere that night. That bar was conveniently between to jump fields...both of which belonged to one person.... A private plane took off during that time from the Fauger airstrip - supposedly some businesses men. Strange how some Cooper seekers forget about these little thing that were actually investigated by the FBI as a result of the skyjacking.. Too much of the real history and knowledge of that night has been swallowed up by geeks trying to push the envelope a little too far to discredit those on the plane and on the ground...and what was reported to the media immediately afterward. Just because the autorities did not find the chute, the money or the bag or Cooper - does not mean he didn't land near the pathway which now a group of geeks have distorted to make it fit the money find in 1980. The FBI and the government did NOT send all of those searchers to the West - they sent them to the most logical place and that was based on data they had and witness accounts and the crew....and the radar. WHY has it be so important for a group of GEEKS to displace the probable landing site? Ask yourselves that question and then look at the probable answers....! Not difficult to figure out at all. Even Sluggo did not put the plane as far to the West as these guys have done. They did it just to prove they could alter facts and history...all based on the money find! Duhh - more than one person knows how that money got to Tina's Bar in the fall of 1979 and to be found in 1980 only 5 months later....20 wks later.

So why are you discussing it here? What if it was your sister or your mother - Cook was slandering? Seems like the problems are in that other place...Cook does not post here. Malicious postings are NOT rampant on the DZ. The problem children are in your place now - so good luck! You have your hands full! PS Great conversation TODAY with an individual about Cooper! We have been off topic here- but, it kept one of the guys out of your hair for awhile. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Agree - back to Square one. Message for Bruce: You twist any part of what R. Hately tells you and I will copy & paste it to him. Do you understand that Brucie! I will NOT allow you to make a mockery out of him as you have done with others you have supposedly interviewed. Both Ralph & I know the name of the man he referred to & as I have tried to tell before - it was thru Margie Boule I first heard of the other person, - but he did not give his name. Her files will show the email address he used. Margie nor I understood the possible connection.... we dismissed the man. This person contacted someone else for help after that. This man wanted immunity & annomity in exchange for his imformation. Mr. Himmelsbach was instrumental in documents being filed with the FBI & the state of WA for John Doe. The State of WA refused. The individual was advised to make a plea for amnesty with the US Government...which was NOT done. The man died in 2004 & his secret died with him. I believe his wife was foreign & did not understand what her husband attempted to tell her. Later a member of the family tried to implement their relative in the Cooper case - with a story that was quickly swept under the rug & dismissed by the FBI. The man took his secret with him to the grave in 2004....because his words fell on deaf ears - including my own. The man fit Duane's story right down to a place the man used to live...and the name & the story about the riddle & Duane causing this BOY to get in trouble in their early yrs. (remember Duane always made time not relative by saying I used to and referring to the Boys & Boy without using a name.) Using Boys was a ploy. Georger made a brief post he quickly erased a few yrs ago. I got the message & perhaps Georger had a "moment" of compassion. He quickly erased the post before anyone saw - it but, I did see it and I did understand the implications. The man knew who Cooper was.....before or after the fact, but that makes NO difference to the FBI. They would have made life miserable for the man and his family. The FBI would have implimented him either way - and that was NOT a legacy he wanted to leave with his family nor to have the FBI accuse him of...It is unknown if the man actually participated or if he was made aware after the fact. It could be a complete reversal from what I know... but I will put money on the FACT that Cooper was NOT a known local jumper regardless of how many were involved... The man only wanted to inform the FBI of what he knew...but to do so without immunitiy he knew he would be implicated in the crime....he was probabably only involved after the fact....but, he was forced to take this to his grave. Evidently when he tired to contact me he already knew he was sick, but that is just a guess on my part. The fact that he died about 3 yrs later is what caused me to believe he already knew about his condition. ALL I could ever do was guess - but it was a man Duane told me about...but, WHY? Duane did KNOW the wife because he mentioned her in his conversation in 1979. Per the story as I know it - they knew were Hately's jump field was off of 500.....REMEMBER Duane took me there! I believe even if he doesn't remember it - that Cooper was known to Hately, but only by appearance - not by name. Duane told me too much about Hately not to have known him. Hately would not have known his real name, but Duane definitely told me about those Birds, his jump fields (all 3 of them) and claimed to have known the man, but we were NOT going to go see him. Hately has seen pictures of Weber, but was unable to identify him as someone he had seen or met. Per what I know Nothing has been written regarding Hately in the 1970's when Duane took me to WA, but Duane told me about Hately & his jump fields and his birds. No way Duane could have known about all three sites and the birds if he didn't know who Hately was. Duane would use "used to know", but on that one he said the name. Even Georger knows this story and for some reason Georger made sure this story was LOCKED out. Georger quickly showed the man's OBIT many many yrs ago and as soon I made a comment - he took it down. This all happened in a flash of just a few moments on the thread...Georger's post went poof without a trace. You will treat this like new information & Georger will deny he made a post about the man - it was an obit. He must have had a weak moment! Georger actually knows more about this case than he has admitted to. He actually has aided the COVER-UP - quickly making sure any evidence of the truths go POOF! Georger is not stupid, but he is getting old and he has screwed up regarding his self assigned agenda. Who or What Georger protects - is like watching a drunk play darts...I never know where that damn dart is headed...or what side of the room the board is on. P.S. Shutter - you can copy and paste this post where Georger can see it. P.S. Shutter - tell CooK if he has truely run a background check on me to be sure I get a copy of it. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Fowl language is unnecessary. YOU resort to that when you get cornered. Shutter restricted your postings on the other site then you weaseled your way back into this one after or just before Quade left. Quade was very generous in allowing this thread to stand. You cannot seem to live without the filty language & the sexual expletives. Wasn't that what you were ban for the last time? Shutter keeps a tight grip on you in the other thread, but you started acting like the irate raging & confrontal person asked to leave the DZ in the past. NOW you are BACK in the DZ and with your fantasies and horrid smut remarks about others. Shutter runs a tight ship - and he kept the boundaries tight on you. Fortunately I am very aware and your actions here are self explanatory. I am not going to expose your sordid past on this thread - but maybe someone else will. You are your own worse enemy! The Cooper story does have an ending and it does NOT involve you. You wonder WHY you are not recieved well by those involved over the yrs. Just look in the Mirror and tell yourself one of the stories you recite as truths about others. You do not have the credentialsl to judge others but you seem to do it everyday....if anyone disagrees with you, then your frustration is filled with expletives & conjectures & anything negative you can conjure up about that person. IT is ALL about making Brucie feel good about himself. Now take a GOOD look in the mirror and ask yourself why NO one WANTS you around....WHY you are alone and will remain alone for the rest of your life. I am tired & I am not supposed to be up this late....ODD how you got the moderator to delete the kids post but NOT yours. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I usually stay out of these thing not related to Weber, but Robert99 - you are wrong this time and you are dead wrong. Yes the kid made many inappropriate comments...and I did NOT understand why the thread did NOT do something. It was obvious the child did NOT belong here. I did all I could on a PRIVATE BASIS other than contact the authorities. BUT you ROBERT have to KNOW that BRUCE is lieing - he may have made some enquiries about the child, but NO complaints or calls were made about a suicide because that post was NOT made until the WKEND - because the timing is set in my post - as I immediately responded to the posting with a quote. The time and date stamp on Blevins post and my post prove this along with the POST made by Bruce as soon as he posted. Bruce had the childs post removed but NOT his own posting - BECAUSE you guys were rallying around him for what he supposedly had done. Bruce would NOT shut up - he was milking you guys and he was basking in it. Bruce leaps on ever piece of senationalism he can. His enquires if he did indeed make any - had nothing to do with suicide....and he did NOT contact childrens services on a wkend & expect them to act before he made his self proclaiming post just a few moments later. Maybe on the internet, but in real life the correspondence Bruce relates does NOT happen that fast. NOT on a weekend night line. He may have gotten thru to the crisis line - but that is it. The authorities would alert him NOT to say anything if he has mentioned the kid was on the line and had just made the threat. Bruce has yet to produce his work experience - his experience is more than likely as a juvenile himself in crisis....remember I know things about BRUCE you guys do not know! Yea, Bruce you didn't know I knew that did you. You had yourself in a lot of trouble at one time and you just keep digging in deeper - why you want to be a writer - because then you are in control & you can use words as your weapon of choice. How come you have never shared with the people here - why you can't go home! Sorry to be brutal, but you do NOT know the meaning of the most important words in the our vocabulary. Knowing where the truth stops and the lies start is an important boundary when writing about real life events. YOUR mind has no boundaries and you co-mingle the lies with the trurths - but, this time YOU GOT CAUGHT by the time stamp in the thread. You got the kids post deleted - but not your own....didn't CYA. YOU knew you could not let yourself get caught again - but the DZ did NOT delete your postings just the one by a minor. Hooray for the DZ - The moderator made sure YOU did not STRIKE a HOME RUN! He left your postings and you quickly edited one of them, to make is sound as though the pieces fit. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

The child made NO threats until he made the above posting which was removed AT the request of BRUCE SMITH. Note that RobertBlevins immediately replied to him to the young man....therefore the date is verifiable. In conlusion Robert99: BRUCIE HAD NOT CONTACTED THE AUTHORIES ABOUT Daniell's CHILDISH THREAT! The child had made NO other such threats. Prior to this Bruce was more interested in the Blevins & child connection. Bruce's own perverted mind extracted ulterior motives. I guess Bruce thinks everyone had motives other than concerns. Bruce has taken things I have said and twisted them the same way. If Bruce doesn't like you he speaks and writes suggestive and unkind things...that is the premise of his being. This was the post made by Danielle that Bruce replied to and not in the manner one would reply to regarding a child in distress. Note Bruce made sure the childs post was deleted, but it was immediately quoted by Blevins...I was here when it happened....where were you. YET, Bruce did NOT request his postings be removed. Therefore Robt99 you ARE WRONG and you are easily led by the likes of those who would misuse your capabilities. Bruce was UNAWARE of what might be considered a suicide statement until the week-end. BRUCE bluntly lied to glorify himself. He had the post REMOVED to protect himself when he found out he could be declared a hero! Some of you who did NOT read what was actually said JUMPED on the band wagon and BRUCE was eating it up. EXPOSED! If Bruce had been in contact with the authorites prior to that time he needs to EXPOSE his proof now. Bruce IS NOT telling the truth! Bruce has been banned from this thread before and now BRUCE wants vengance - why I watch his posting like a hawk. HE WILL bait and then TURN on you. Quade knew what Bruce was - but the new moderator doesn't know any of us....! Therefore when I have to make a post like this - I cringe! Bruce needs to crash this thread so the other one can survive! SO you SEE the MOTIVE! Remember Bruce was the reason the other thread was established. Without this thread - the truths about those of us who have lived thru this for many yrs - can and will be extorted.... Those who have any knowledge or are connected to the past will have NO way to be heard... Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I was concerned about the timing Bruce used...he had just contacted the authorities (it was a week-end night). I knew the authorties would not be available to react over the wk-end. I responded ONLY AFTER Bruce made his action PUBLIC knowledge in a median the child could access. Robt99 - What would you have done if that had been YOUR GRANDCHILD? You would have been appalled someone contacted the authorites over a wk-end and before the authorities could react - a self fulling individual was BRAGGING about what he did before the authorities even had time to react. What Bruce did by publicizing his actions was to endanger that child. Jo, Do you actually understand that Bruce first informed the Georgia CPS people about this situation on August 9th which was 15 days ago? If anything, YOU - Jo Weber - were endangering the child by sitting on your hands and not informing the authorities yourself. You claim to have a grandchild with similar problems, you should have been the first to recognize the dangers and get in touch with the authorities just up the road from you in Atlanta. Robert99 ROBT99, GO A BACK and READ what HE said and the DATE of the posting. Bruce HAD no affirmation of his contact with athorities on that date! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Jo says correctly, despite Robert99's protests: Robert 99 you are the most prejudgmental person on this thread and when it comes to children - you do NOT have a clue! Just read back logically and then make an apology. I get the feeling you do NOT read the thread correctly and do not relate postings to the correct poster. Why do you consistently indicated some one should be banned. I disagree with what Bruce did and feel it was self-fulling on his part, but I would not suggest he be banned because of it. Your reactions to many things seem to be irrational. You pop off and do not read back or do not comprehend the discussion....in proper sequences. All of us are concerned about what is supposedly a child in distress and acting out inappropirately and what do we get - adults also acting like beligerent little boys squabble 'NOT ME!' & "I am going to tell on you". Grow up Robert99 - or have you entered you second childhood? Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I was concerned about the timing Bruce used...he had just contacted the authorities (it was a week-end night). I knew the authorties would not be available to react over the wk-end. I responded ONLY AFTER Bruce made his action PUBLIC knowledge in a median the child could access. Robt99 - What would you have done if that had been YOUR GRANDCHILD? You would have been appalled someone contacted the authorites over a wk-end and before the authorities could react - a self fulling individual was BRAGGING about what he did before the authorities even had time to react. What Bruce did by publicizing his actions was to endanger that child. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Bruce made an ISSUE out of his heroic action on this forum instead of letting authorities do what was necessary. He just kept on and on and on bragging about his actions... I was worried about the child's reaction with Bruce making such a public issue before the authorities had a chance to react. Bruce reported it but should NOT have made an issue about it in the thread. I knew I had exhausted my options by trying to talk to the child in P.M.'s It was the circumstance and the timing and Bruce going on and on about his action in this thread. Bruce was using this child to make himself sound like a hero and all he should have done was report it and wait for the authorities to do their job. The child reads this thread and Bruce BRAGGING about his intervention could have caused the child to act out on his emotions.....BRUCE if he is trained at all in dealing with children like this KNOWS you do NOT MAKE public knowledge of interference...you give the authorities time to react. I have a grandchild of my own with a similar disorder...My first priority when I read Bruce's bragging post was to think about the reactions of the child reading what Bruce had done....it was a weekend night. NOTE the date and the time Bruce made intervention and went public with it. Then tell me that IS how you would want your grandchild treated? Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

What a certain poster has done is completely wrong and jeopardizes the safety of a supposed child I have empathy for the child in question, but this individuals' public means to attempt a rescue of a seemingly troubled person has gone way too far. If this person was truely concerned about the child & had the expertise he claimed - he would NEVER have made PUBLIC what he claimed to have done. Anyone ever NOTE the times of the postings? Even NOTE when this person posts and who this person responds to? Child lives in Ga and there is no Tacoma bridge there.Why I did not take it serious. DUHHHhhh! He who knows ALL and gets it ALL wrong most of the time - contacts authorities and then publicizes his HEROICS before he is aware intervention had been made....or that a real problem even exists. Way to go Brucie - you cause damage to anyone you interview and your purpose is always SELF SERVING! U do not care whose lives you Screw up and all you care about is a STORY! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

On August 23 at 9PM your time you openly threatened an individual who was threatening certain actions. You do realize it is a weekend - did YOU actually speak with the authorities? If you did they would have couciled you NOT to confront the person....or to make the individual aware of the course of action. You are an idiot & you have NO expertise in this at all. Yes, some one needed to do something - but, you do NOT confront or make public actions until AFTER the fact. What you have done is VERY dangerous considering the fact it is a wk-end....I am praying as I write this. DID you actually speak with a resource available to take IMMEDIATE action? IF not What happens lies WHOLLY on you. Hope you can live with it! Such inappropriate actions could also cause a liability for the DZ... YOU are an IDIOT and YOU KNOW ZERO about dealing in matters like this. If you WALK with a BIG STICK - you should KNOW how to use it first. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Perhaps Jo will also tell us how Duane liked the swimming and fishing in Groom Lake? Did Duane and his friends have beach houses there? Who were their neighbors? Robert99 I do not know any thing about Groom lake. In 1979 - I could not see from the highway any thing other than desert (what I call desert) but there was low vegetation... I did NOT see the rocks he told me about - so obviously they were beyond my view or removed. He told me about a town I could not see from the highway and a lake. On the other side of this lake is where the man lived he told me about....that man was a jumper! Expect this was about the only time he actually admitted to a relationship with someone who jumped. The conversation was more like he was a helper - collecting up the chutes and hardware - I assumed he was a very young man at the time. Again the guys....I got the impression it was a small town and little was said about that. He did mention JUMPING in that conversation & I have explore this yrs ago. Yes, per the man I spoke to about this area - there was jumpers who lived there. I know absolutely little to nothing about that area, but it was BEFORE we reach Tahoe and evidently in the middle of NOWHERE. (I just edited the above post because this was ONE specific time when he DID mention chutes}. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

You do UNDERSTAND I know nothing about these kinds of things - I just tell what Duane said and I do not know the technical aspects of these thing you question. I have to explore any possibility of these things existing and from the little Duane did tell me in 1979 about these things. I do NOT know how the CB comes into all of this - but it was more than just a normal CB from what I understood and what I personally witnesses. What I know about tower devices is the statement Duane made that he put something on that specific tower at one time and at the same time he told me about the Air Park owner. He knew the man and he knew his wife. The pyramid things comes from something he said about signal towers - I assume they were microwave tower, but do NOT know what kind of towers they actually were....You guys find that out - I do not know and do not have the sources to know. I just listened and I did NOT ask a lot of question...I was just soaking this area he seemed to know SO much about and I had never been there before. It was OBVIOUS he had spent sometime in the area and that would be AFTER those towers were built for what ever reason they existed. Remember he also took me to the VOR and told me what it did and he mentioned having worked there with the GUYS. He also talked about the parallel power lines at every point....do you not think that odd. TOO much he pointed out - that all connect to the details needed to put the skyjacking off - I would not be aware of this until I started to explore this with you guys here in this thread....and I would be the one who would start the conversation and you guys like myself thought it was odd that these are probable factors that only someone who lived and worked in the area would know. Yes, I have, but no one would hear me. The brother had a message from Tosaw - and that message put Duane in a chute. The things Duane told me put him in a chute. Doesn't mean he had extensive experience, but he had did know the basics...remember he talked about Paperlegs Peterson and any one around Paperleg and the group related to IN PLANE SITE would have been heavily connected to other who jumped. Some of the guys with AWARE had been jumpers. Yes I have - his connections to Paperlegs and to the man at AIR PARK and Area 51. Some of them would go to a place above Area 51 and they jumped - near a lake in a desert. He was specific about that ....I just didn't connect something like that to D.B.Cooper. He mention there used to be lots of Rock there - but all I saw was what I considered desert. The man who was a jumper lived near there and I expect now that man could connected to AWARE and Area 51. Yrs. ago I did know the name, but now it is lost in all of the stuff I have been thru for 18 yrs. The man was Indian. Duane also was exposed to jumper - the Nickles while he was on the run - he was the boy he told about Knowing who did their errand for them - they could not go to the resturants - so the used the BOY. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

There is NO tarnish on my credibility as I have told what I know to the best of my knowledge. If the FBI refuses to check out the Fords and their back groundd and the background of the people they knew - then shame on them. Shame on the Government for the secrets they keep - the guys still alive from Area 51 thought the government was going to let the truths be known - but instead after the man who fought so hard for the release of info died...the government made a scam out of it - they flossed it over by stating things everyone already knew, but did not give the freedom to those left to speak about what they did in that place and why they think they did it. It was too little too late and now there is no one left in a government position who gives rats ass. The new politians do NOT know the past and they could care less - and they have so much baggage of their own - to borrow the baggage of the past would be political suicide. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

You tell much more than you know Jo and you present it as fact. I guess you see no harm in it. You present as a fact that devices were placed on three towers that were used by Cooper for navigation. That's NOT a fact. 377 I do not present it as fact regarding the CB. I have insisted the CB was different and it was - per the man who worked on it in our area. The man was the one who did NOT understand why Duane needed a CB with the range on it that one had - and he was the only CB service just off of the Interstate - he got all of the truckers. I had never met this man as he usually mailed in his annual check, but we had not been able to reach him. I was a field agent & the office asked me to call on him. I reminded him he had worked on my husbands CB and he remembered it well as I have stated above. He told me this after asking what Duane did for a living. I told him we used to live in CO and we sold insurance and often had long trips up into N. Wy and maybe that was why we needed the range. I do not remember if I mention the plane coming in, but he said something about planes. This was before Duane died and before I understood the things he spoke about. My boss told me he could not continue to cover for me because of Duane's illness as he had been in the hospital for several days. Under the circumstance the company let me keep Duane's insurance they provided as spousal coverage - Duane died 2 wks later. I did tell Duane about collecting from the guy his annual premium and it was the man who had worked on his CB. A couple of yrs after Duane died I tried to find the man. The shop was closed and it does seem I got in touch with him by phone, but he was going to treatment and later when I could not touch base with him found out he also had died. I know I can't prove what I say, but yrs ago I offered to take a lie detector test & even offered to have pendilithium used on me - the FBI obviously saw NO reason to do so. Seems like after I went public they would have leaped onto that, but they didn't. I presented FACTS as I know them and that is what was said and what happened - I have admitted I have NO way to prove Duane was Cooper and that all I have is and was the people who knew him and what he told and showed to me. His confess is all I really need - just sorry I did NOT understand what he was talking about. I have been as truthful about this as anyone could...I have remembered data many could not remember and I have taken on the naysayers. Just Dumb Ole Stupid Woman - why didn't I go buy my husband a recorder when he asked for one before he went to the hospital. . Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

377 I cannot show you what I do not have. I believe some how it had something to do with the CB in the Van - I did NOT understand what the man told me about that system...but it was unique and had an out-put range not needed for a vehicle on the highway. I remembered the man saying not even truckers used equipment that advanced. What or if this was connected to 1971 - I know not. It is a part of Duane I have told about - I do not have to understand it...just tell what I know. Duane sold the equipment before he died...I do not know who bought it and was not with him. I just remembered something about that CB. It had the regular thing you talk into - but inside of auto pocket was an item I one time asked Duane about - it was part of the CB. Sort of like a Walky Talky, but heavy. I do not remember what he said other than it was part of the CB. This was one of our long work trips out to Jasper, WY. So could that piece have been a device used by another person to communciate with the vehicle...is or was there such a thing? I am merrily describing what I saw and what he said....at that time I did not ask to many questions - just accepted what I was told and not to judge. Just asking because this was my first memory of that thing...and why now I know not. It was about the size 2 1/2 to 3 inches wide and probably 6 to 7 inches long. Best my memory can do, but do not hold me to the size. I only saw it ONE time....and was told it was part of the CB. NO other explanation was offered and I did not ask....I thought it looked like a walkie talkie. Duane was very picky about that system - and he didn't want me touching it....He transferred it from vehicle to vehicle...and finally sold it after he got a cell phone in 1990. It was NOT on the van when I sold the van - it had been removed. That is all I remember. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I cannot show you what I do not have. I believe some how it had something to do with the CB in the Van - I did NOT understand what the man told me about that system...but it was unique and had an out-put range not needed for a vehicle on the highway. I remembered the man saying not even truckers used equipment that advanced. What or if this was connected to 1971 - I know not. It is a part of Duane I have told about - I do not have to understand it...just tell what I know. Duane sold the equipment before he died...I do not know who bought it and was not with him. I am NOT worried about my credibility, bbecause I do not have to prove myself to anyone. I just have to tell what I know to the best of my knowledge and hope this OLD key board does not stop working. I can no longer see the letters or numbers, but then I do not look at the them unless I need to find a punctuation mark not normally used. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Jo, You have zero evidence that any extraordinary technology was used by Copper. ZEEEERO. McCoy, Heady and others showed nothing special was needed. Nobody would like Cooper to have used nav and comm gear more than I do. But there isn't a shred of evidence that he did. 377 NOOOTTT exactly where I was going! And it was not Copper it was Cooper.

I did NOT say one word about CIA! NOW did I .... DUANE was not CIA. Obviously you have little to NO knowledge of what I am talking about. These guys were NOT CIA! Evidently that is what you want others to believe I am saying.... AWARE was NOT CIA and they did NOT have the clearance of such....most were common laborers...doing individuals jobs they were assigned and most did NOT know what the finished product was or how it would be used. CHUCK that one! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber