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Now 40 plus yrs later certain individual with a reasoning of their own - wanted to change history because of the money find....I was with Weber in 1979 when he put that money in the river. If the FBI had spent some time looking at REAL facts and the history of Weber and some actual time TALKING to me personally to see how much more I could remember. They should have got me in WA that yr - so I could have shown them where he took me....but NO NO - they preferred to let this damn thing PLAY out for 18 more yrs and use a lot more of our taxes to do so. I refused interviews because I thought the FBI was ACTUALLY doing something thing. Had I known they were NOT going to do anything - I would have told everything I knew and told the name to the public and most of these people were still alive then....why didn't the FBI talk to Tommy Gunn - he was alive and he knew Duane from the past - BUT, if they spoke to TOMMY GUNN - they sure as hell kept it a secret. WHY? That is because the knowledge used to pull of the skyjacking was obtained by illegal actions on behalf of the US. The government would have to admit they were where they WERE NOT SUPPOSED to be - in 1960's. OUR government is DIRTY! Helms wanted this to be known but he didn't make it and now there is NO ONE to carry the TORCH! Just a dumb broad with a damn story to tell. If any of you believe the US did not cross some line in the 60's then you need to have your head examined. 1962 to 1971 - some strange things went on. INTERMOUNTAIN COMMUNICATION none of you ever GOT. MOST of you do NOT even know what they did. IT was not about WAR....it was getting FOOD & supplies into an area were innocent people of the war were starving to death. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

What you guys have debated for yrs now was decided while the plane was still in the air. When Tina described the "dynamite" she said it was the color of her uniform. Himmelsback new at that point they were nothing more than road flares - but NOT willing to bet the lives of the crew on it. They were so far behind that 727 that it was ridiculous. Like a Robin trying to catch flying Geese. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

When Cooper was informed the plane would have to go by way of RENO he had no problems with that - BECAUSE he knew he would be gone before the plane made it OR!!!!! He did not planned to stay on that plane and the destination meant nothing to him other than he needed to go South and preferable S.E. Just before take off Cooper told the crew Yuma was ok for a refuel ---- this is a little known fact....and one that has long been ignored. Cooper never agreed to Reno! Cooper was getting agitated and said "Let's Get this SHOW on the Road" The same words he used in the hospital 2 night before he died and during a torential storm...he was reliving that moment. He needed to make that jump just after dark. He knew when he was going to jump and that he didn't care if it was headed to Reno or Mexico as he knew when he was going to jump. I believe he timed it from the time the wheels lifted off the ground - he had already dictatated the speed! Supposedly they were tracking the plane but the authorities felt the plane was EAST of the Victor 23. Reference Page 37 in Himmelbach's book. I know for a fact that most of the things in Mr. H's book are factual. He discussed with me the 2 factors he got upset with the writer regarding item NOT correct and this was NOT one of them. It also states on page 37 that the CO-Pilot reaffirmed that the plane was EAST of Victor 23. These are accountings made when this was fresh on their minds and this is EXACTLY what the co-pilot told me. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

When the FBI was trying to get a description of Cooper this is what they got from most. Dark Brown Piercing eyes. Swarthy complexion. I have a olive complexion & tan easily (or used to). Would never have been described as having a swarthy complexion. Remember they even thought he might be foreign because of his complexion....it was dark. NOT one of them would have said Olive. Probably half the people on that plane had olive complexions. Cooper had a swarthy complexion which means it was darker than others on the plane who were caucasion. Anthony Quinn had a swarthy complexion. As did the former 1st Lady's second husband - Onasis. Cooper's complexion was such they thought he might be foreign.... Duane Weber had an ashy complexion with golden highlights and when he had lots of sun - the ash became prominent. If Cooper's complexion was OLIVE it would never have been called swarthy. They even thought the man might be foreign because of his complexion. Would one think that if the complexion was truely olive? If so their world must have been very small. The FBI and others have now turned that swarthy into olive and that is very very misleading. If the witnesses had been shown color complexion samples they would NEVER have picked olive. I do NOT believe I have ever seen a swarthy complexion with BLUE OR GREEN eyes! I am sure they exist, but I never met one. Would you describe someone from Cuba or S.A. as olive - NO. Another witnesses thought he could have been part Indian (American Indian) but, not as much red - HOW they came up with Swarthy. Like sailors who spent lots of time in the sun. NONE of you have spent as much time as I did in the beginning with multiple principles involved with this. I interiviewed several of the passengers & the ticket agent(Dennis Lynse) & the broading (Hal Williams) agent & Mitchell & the attorney on the plane....there was another man I got intouch with but do not remember his name at this time. I have also spoke with a couple of others - but would have to look them up...Richard Simmons & Finegold are 2 more. The FBI obtained chutes from McChord which the skyjacker said NO to because they opened automatically at 200ft. Question - how did they communicate this to Cooper and how did he know this.? Cooper was adamant they be civilian chutes. NO ONE knows WHY or HOW the complexion was describe as Olive when it was NO where near Olive. Even Himmelsbach did NOT understand that! Guess we can't do red, blue and green anymore! NO Funny Stuff! How many time have I heard that expression? When Duane would play monopoly he would say that to my daughter. Cossey had the 2 back chutes but the front packs came from Issaquah...I had been told in the past they came from McChord, My bad!. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I made a post but it said I needed to de-bug - what does that mean. If this one goes thru then I guess I did something wrong. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

*** Which composite are you using? Doug knows and I know the only composite that was close per the witnesses is the one I used and not the skinny faced one with the weak generic features that has been made so prominent by the naysayers & anyone who wants to distract from the actual composite the witnesses agreed on yrs ago. There is too much difference in the skinny faced one that is now being promoted....it WAS not the one promoted for yrs and yrs. Cook was responsible & other naysayers for that 'other' composite being primary now. The FBI even had something to do with making the least likely becoming primary....because of pressure regarding Weber. I CHALLENGE you - you live not too far from Tina - at least not as far as I do. Tina would probably agree to see you and I expect you are the ONLY one. Number one because of who you are. Since one of the passengers lives in a close area - perhaps it could be arranged for the 2 of them to meet with you - and I expect Florence would also if her expenses were paid. 3 witnesses in one room - and see which composite they originally claimed looked the most like Cooper! They would have to be assure NO other questions would be asked and that no pictures be taken and to meet you in an undisclosed location. Then what they can do to bring this to an end will be done! You are an attorney and I am sure if you told them this was only to resolve all the conflicts going on that continue to enflame this old crime. Alice has been too close to Cook and therefore has been exposed and influenced...that is the only reason I discount her. The composite that has been sofened was NOT used...the one they FBI used in it original file & provided to me in 1998 was the one they promoted for yrs. THEY will remember the composite drawing they collectively agreed on!... I call the second one effeminated & not just genericized.....some agent who pulled the files decided that was the one to promote now & to hell with the one that looked like Weber or Coffelt. Wish I knew how to put it in the text! Some how ALL of my pics are looking different - some setting I accidently changed and to not know how to make it go back - did the same with my screen. Hopefully you have one of the old ones I sent before I mess all of them up....even the family photo are now that harse color and dark in color. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I also spoke with Don several time over the yrs...he is really a nice guy and Don is not Cooper. He was having marital problems about the time of the skyjacking, but that is all I remember without going back to the files. He had a solid alibi. He and I did talk again after that and it was just general as he does not follow what goes on with Cooper. The last time I spoke with him several yrs ago he was also having health issues....that is what happens when we get old. You are not looking at the the Jefferson pic with a realistic mind. The eyes are DEAD on and the tilt of the head make the nose look larger and the chin smaller - plus he was missing lower teeth at that time. He also had a haircut - that was ridiculous and I expect his wife was cutting his hair - they had been on the run for several months.. NO - YOU need to take that Jefferson pic to a forensic artist along with the good composite of Cooper - the one I have in extreme detail that I got directly from the FBI. When it is enlarged and in sepia you will see things you did NOT know were in the picture. The reduction done by the FBI hides the details...the details are remarkable.... Did YOU ever enlarge the ORIGINAL to letter size or larger? Probably not! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Sheridan Peterson was NOT Cooper and I have spoke to Sheridan many time over the yrs. The first time was when he was in WA and did NOT have health issues....I wish I had the picture he sent to me as it is NO where else and he was sitting on a rock - it was a great picture. It was on my old computer when it crashed - my first computer. Two of the guys who worked for Sheridan at the jump site - contacted him and told him that one of the guys they took up just a couple of yrs before the jump - they believed was Cooper. Sheridan sent the paperwork on the group to the FBI. I have discussed the results of this before. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I AM NOT GOING TO HOLD MY BREATH BUT I THINK I HAVE BEEN HEARD & WHEN I FOUND ALL OF THOSE SITES OUT THERE WERE WEBER HAD BEEN COMPLETELY IGNORED - I JUST DID IT! SOMEONE OR DUMB ME COULDN'T FIND THE JEFFERSON PICTURE BUT IT IS GOING TO GO VIRAL...AND THEN LETS SEE WHAT THE WORLD HAD TO SAY ABOUT DUANE WEBER. THAT JEFFERSON PIC WAS THE MISSING LINK & THE LOST RECORDS WHERE AGENTS ACTUALLY WENT TO JEFFERSON BECAUSE INDIVIDUALS CLAIMED COOPER HAD BEEN THERE. WELL, HE WAS! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Ancestry did not help - the woman at the library said it is going to take someone in WA to do the foot work in the archives...she couldn't find enough with what I had....lasts names with no first names. So much from that era was NEVER recorded unless the families had an interest in doing so. That one name is spelled several different ways. The genealogy of my mothers family is not in place, but my fathers is - simply because someone recorded it. and OLD bibles kept with the correct names. Mother's is a completely different thing - with because of the indians kidnapping some of the women - one returned to her family, and was taken back with child another remained with the indians. All I have is last names and approximate locations in 1940's for these last name... & that the heritage is probably German. I wish I had this information when I was in WA, but I didn't because I didn't understand the message the sister was trying to tell me...it has to do with the Pomeroy Farms and their heritage - that much I know but it intermingled with that other ODD name which I finally got right and then forgot again...but I put it in the thread. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Attached is a picture of MA Weber as an older woman, but she strongly resemble the Woman with Unice Gilliam in a family photo taken when a grandchild was born. I cannot post the family photo of Unice with her daughter and grandchild but the woman in the back looks like a younger Ma Weber. I think perhaps Unice's mother had deceased and Ma Weber stood in her stead as GodGrandmother. I could GET no verification from the Gilliam family as to who the woman was in a family photo...but, the genealogy will probably show that Unice's mother was deceased when this picture was taken...but Ma Weber was still alive...and took her place as the GodGrandmother. The family picture is copywrited and I could crop the older woman out - but do not know if I can legally show that. I will send it to 377 in a PM and he can make the decision. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

The woman sitting behind the umbrella was this woman when she was much younger. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Sta The connections was in the family~ The connections was also with friends of the family! Stanley Gillaim's wife was Duane's mothers best friends daughter....the family had strong connections to Puyallup! Also the town that was where another known person in Duane's family lived -Pomeroy!~ Note the Gilliams wife also had connections to Pomeroy. The Barths are also connected and one of them was resposible for the rehab of 1st time offenders sent to the WA pen....he created the work camps. A former fire chief or fire fighter in The Dalles was also connected the the family...or friend of the family. NOW you know why this information is very important - these things will put Duane with enough knowledge of chutes to have done the deed. I listed some of the names twice back in this thread...but NO taker on getting any help with this. The connections the sister made told me to REMEMBER them - it was difficult time for her & she knew it was the last time she would be able to talk to me before her son took her to TX. She told me to WRITE them down, but I could only write sound alikes and then I found the names - but, only old files and old family photos of reunions and family get together is going to make the connect such as the attached photo the sister sent me. In this picture Gwendoly was 16 and the brother was in his 20's, Duane was 10 yrs old. The woman sitting in the chair whose face you cannot see was Mrs. Weber's friend in WA. Stanley Gilliams wife's relatives where BARTHS....maybe her maiden name was Barth. Duane's father signed up for the service with 2 Barth brothers and they remained friends. They are responsible for the Weber's moving to CA. One of the Barth or both of them ened up in WA. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Your sales pitch is WHY this thread had died. If someone asked me about Duane I tell - them. My information about his is FIRST HAND and he did confess. NONE of your info is FIRST HAND. I personally provided you with information U REFUSE to investigate and YOU ARE sitting in WA on their door step. WHAT are you waiting for - for them to die so NO one can refute the story you created. NORMALLY I do not come down on you but when it becomes evident you are WHY even I do NOT want to come BACK - when I do it is the SAME ole thing. I asked for your help because you live in WA. NOW I realize you are not and will never do a damn thing with it because it must might prove your suspect is NOT Cooper. YOUR suspect is the MOST unlikely suspect and never considered a suspect by the FBI. FOLKS I NEED A GENEALOGIST IN WA AND/OR OLD TIME TO CHECK SOME THING OUT FOR ME - I CAN AFFORD TO PAY FOR SOME GAS AND A THE FEES. A LOT OF IT COULD BE DONE BY COMPUTER, BUT THEN SOME OF IT WILL REQUIRE GOING TO THE LOCATIONS TO VERIFY THE INFORMATION AND TO FIND OLD PICTURES. ANY HELP I CAN GET I WILL APPRECIATE. I ASKED BLEVIN FOR HELP IN THIS BUT OBVIOUSLY IT IS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST - AS IT HAS TO DO WITH CONTACTING 3 OF THE PARTIES HE SUPPOSEDLY INTERVIEWED. SORRY BLEVINS BUT I HAVE SAT ON THIS AS LONG AS I AM GOING TO.... ANYONE WHO THINKS THEY CAN HELP WHO LIVE IN WA AND WILLING TO HELP - PLEASE CONTACT ME THRU THIS THREAD WITH A PRIVATE CONTACT EMAIL OR PHONE AND I WILL PROVIDE YOU WITH THE INFORMATION THAT NEEDS TO BE CHASED AND THEN MAYBE I CAN PUT THIS AWAY. I AM UNABLE TO MAKE THE TRIP MYSELF SO I WILL HAVE TO DEPEND ON OTHERS. IT IS THINGS THE FBI SHOULD HAVE DONE, BUT THEY DIDN'T. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I have also told another story about how Duane expressed himself. This was at a company meeting. They announce that the agents would have to call on the leads in person and not by phone to make an appointment. They wanted to know what the agents thought. Duane goes to the front of the room Turns his Rear end to the other agents and/or the directors and said: "This is what I think about it" Then he farted. How he could have managed a fart at the right time to me was comical. Several years later with this same company he won a coveted award - Manager of the yr. This award was presented in St.Coix and the president and vice president of this company told the story when they announced the person who was to receive the award. I didn't know they were talking about Duane until they went further with their story mentioning his other accomplishments! Duane was going out on disability due to his polycystic kidney disease. I was with him in St.Coix He didn't know he had won the award until he heard the part about the "FART". He took no credit for the award, but instead focused on his agents and that they were the ones who should have been there - not him. He was like that - aways giving someone else the credit - always praising them. Duane was really a great guy and the only person to ever tell me anything negative about him was an ex-wife (1972 to 1976) who hated his guts. She told me Duane was a dangerous man. Duane had an even temperment and the only times I ever saw this other side of him was when he first started on the kidney machine. As he adjusted to the fact that his life depended on that machine - he was back to being himself...a period of about 6 wks. The kidney machine in 1990 required several hour 2 & 3 times a week sitting in a chair while the machine removed the chemicals from his blood. Now they have improved this and it can be done at home as they sleep. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I did not understand your post or which post you are referencing. Duane had a sense of humor, but as for playing a sadist game - I don't have any knowledge of such. I do not know if you read to story about Duane at a Golf resort area and the 2 girls and his friend shared a few drinks with in the early 70's. The girls said they had to leave and they walked them to their car and thanked them for the drinks as the pulled off, Duane told his friend "Watch this" and then Duane made a running leap and jumped on the front of their moving vehicle toward the windshield. He was spread out on the hood of the car - saying "Please don't leave- Please - Pleaseeee!" All the while holding on to the front of the top of the hood pressing is face against the windshield ..... A lot of the things I have been told - indicates Duane had a way of expressing himself. This is not the only incident I have wrote about here. Duane was loved by his agents and he mentored the young agents as thought they were the son he supposedly never had. Duane did incidate to another party that he not only had a daughter, but a son. Duane never mentioned the son to me. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

399 - have you got the Crows ready? Hell, leave the feathers on - Oh do you have any armadillo and how about some RAT & throw in a skunk.. 1973 Duane Weber loaned his BOSS quiet a sum of money for a man who didn't make that much in 1971 or 1972 ... I have the NOTE! Duane had supposedly inherited some money! Duh! There was NO one to inherit anything from - they had been dead for yrs & yrs....1956 & 1958. I do not know what Duane's relationship with McCoy was - but there is one thing for sure..... Duane & I did not discuss McCoy until we moved to VA. The house McCoy was killed at was just 4 blocks from the Mall. He was just telling me about it as it related to knowing the area...no big deal! ONE brief discussion on a tour of the town showing me how to find the grocery store and the mall. I surmised after finding out who DAN Cooper was in 1996 that Duane was talking about McCoy the night he got stinking drunk and basically crawled into the house before we left Va - telling me he was responsible for a man dieing (rambling about his trying to copy him).....I went out to see if the car was ok thinking he might have hit someone....he was very DRUNK - the only time I EVER saw him that way. I was getting concerned because it was getting late - he was just going to have a farewell drink with the guys after dinner...to say good-bye. He had the shunt in his arm, but had not started on the kidney machine. We were moving to AL and he was going out on disability....he was NOT even supposed to be drinking. WHO pays attention to what a DRUNK is rambling about....I logged it away in my mind & it did NOT seem important to make an issue of it....that was 1987. I had NO IDEA that D.B.Cooper was called DAN COOPER until 1 yr and 3 months AFTER Duane died. It was in a book about Cooper - the only book the library had on Cooper. It was in May of 1996 the day after I had ACED the state real estage exam - at that time the highest score ever made on that particular test. Someone like Georger and others twist this story making it sound like I have changed it - it never changed. Had I not started dating again - I might never have known anything about Dan Cooper. I liked the guy, but did NOT care to take the relationship beyond the point of being friends. So I started to talk about Duane & when he died - it was not an issue - it was just a way of letting this very nice man know I was not ready to move forward....rather than make him feel badly about himself. I wasn't going to say "Hey, you are too FAT or you are too skinny". Why hurt someone who is already hurting from a relationship that went badly for him. In Va Bch, VA - When Duane was stinking drunk he did NOT mention McCoy - just rambled about a man who tried to copy him and died. 1983 Duane shows me where McCoy died while aquainting me with the area. Evidently Duane looked up the site McCoy died and this realization must have ate at his gut the entire time we lived in VA. Bch. VA. 1987 Duane is going out on disability with the company & we are moving to AL. He get drunk - no mention of the name McCoy. 1995 Nine days before he died after refusing diaylsis and presenting his living will to the Dr., his Nurse and the Hosp. Administrator - he tells me we have to tallk and he tells me he is DAN COOPER - HE got very angry because I did NOT understand what he was trying to tell me. He had refused drugs for 2 days. He made it well know to the Dr. he had refused the morphine for 2 days - and therefore sound of mind....when he presented the documents in his briefcase. Duane instructed the Dr and Nurse to NOTE the date the documents had been signed and the dates they had been signed. Note the dates the documents were signed . All of the doucments had been sighn in 1999 before he went on the machine - he was Leaving nothing to chance. ...Duane had everything planned. It was after the Staff & Dr left he told me we needed to talk and he tried to tell me - but they had given him a heavy dose and it was acting pretty quickly....I did NOT understand what he was trying to tell me. Several days later - Duane is still alive and I go to adjust his pillow and there was a tissue with several morphine tablets....Again he tells me we have to talk, but stupid me went and told the nurse what I had found - then they started making him open his mouth to prove he had swallowed the pill. Those 3 days he rambled and the rains were torrential and I could not take him for that ride the Hosp told me I could take him on...he had something in the VAN....evidently it was the WALLET that was returned to me after I sold the vehicle...NO money so the man said! But if it was only a 20 - and an old ticket - he probably didn't think anything about putting it in his pocket. The FBI never told the man the ransom was in 20's - he didn't know that until 3 yrs ago when I contacted him one last time... After all who - misses a 20? This simply and very real story has been changed by Georger and other - till I am sice of these guys and I am sich of defending myself. I do NOT have to defend myself any more - they are the one who neen an attorney to tell them it is called deliberate slander. I is here in this thread - it has not been altered or changed - I do not have it written down - I just let it roll on the screen with my fingers. THESE boys get out of my site and they start to misbehave - surely the must be drunk when they read what I say. There was handwrighting in the book, it was not duane's hand writting. thought it was but I wasnt sure. What I did know as that book was laying on the bed in our travel trailor in 1990 before he went on the machine...Living in the trailor at the Shop was his way of spending some time with himself ... you have to learn to accept what is headed your way. I have watch 2 husbands die - and everyone has their choices or the decisison to make - but you are NEVER ready to say that final good bye. I would appreciate if they are going to talk about this - the part about Duene - that they at least tell the truth of just do NOT discuss Cooper or Weber - just do their own little thing. Perhaps they need to come up with some REALLY good stories about why they have ignored me for 18 yrs. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Sunday around noon time I sent out lots of emails. In that email I made a mistake or two, but I GOT more than SOMEONE's attention! All of sudden others see what I saw. Others understand why I feel dismay at the standing of the FBI regarding Weber and yet 'supposedly' supported another Ms Cooper with an unlikely suspect. Others are starting to feel as I do.....either the FBI goofed or there is more to Cooper than they want us to know. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Pretty bad when they have to come to this thread to solicit new posters. There are 2 individuals who post there I would NOT turn my back on. Both individuals are all about gaming - but not the numbers game Mark74 speaks of. I saw this coming. . Remember the game XXXXX played with this thread and with me? I exchange many private emails eons ago with one individual who posts over there - and he was playing a vicious GAME... he continues to play that GAME even today..... I do NOT understand people like that. I had saved all of the emails he sent me yrs ago and printed them....I also have all of the slanderous postings he made about me - the moderator was NICE enough to get them deleted - NOT something one wants their grandchildren reading about Grandma... I am still feeling the reprecussions from what was said about me...due to a letter I received from the State making a request. One I did not oblige them on... but did call and was told to contact the Governor's Office. The owner and moderator is a pretty good guy - but, do not know where he really stands on the Cooper story - that simulator thing is pretty neat....they had one of the real simulators at the Base. At first I thought you were one of the old posters who came & left of his own accord - he was a numbers guy also...Wishful hoping on my part. He was an extremely intelligent & nice guy - when he got on a streak there was NO stopping him...he marched to a different drummer than the typical poster on the thread....he chose to step aside due to his personal obligation & it WAS the right thing to do. He & I still keep in contact a couple of times a yr. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Most likely scenario is that it was created by Paul Soderlind and his team from NWA, using the available data from all the known sources. There is a picture out there on the internet somewhere (I may have it on one of our other computers still) that shows a similar map in the background. On a wall. It is one of the pictures taken during the Army search for Cooper. The MAP! How many times do I have to ask them WHAT map they are using - remember I have them ALL. Different versions...the one Carr came up with I know its source and how and why it was created...& has NO written on it in large bold print as is the fight path. If that is not the map these guys are concerned about - then they need to post it here so I can see it and I will give you the source! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

NOTE the error date correction in the below post - sorry. 1966 was when Weber was on the run from the FBI before he was arrested as John Collins and sent to Jefferson. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Sure doesn't sound like the Carr I knew. You sure you aren't putting some spin on this Jo? Could he have been kidding you? Did he actually sound menacing? Let's have some details. 377 Yes, it WAS threatening! If I had been like others - I would have said -Well, you just do that, but being me I shy away from getting in trouble. What I should have done instead of calling him shortly before my flight out was to have gone to a newpaper and have told them what I had found and have gotten one of them to go back with me to these sites. That is what I should have done and would have done had it not been for Larry Carr...his THREAT was the only reason I kept my trip secret other than to tell Sluggo what I was doing - he was the only one who knew. (that explains how menacing his statement was) Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

You guys will have to figure out how to put all 3 pictures together. I can't do it. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Larry Carr told me if I went to WA I was going to get in trouble. I said Screw YOU! (in nicer words) When I went I made sure he didn't know I was there. Sluggo was posting at that time and I'll be damn if he didn't almost give it away... WELL I should have taken my butt right up to the Seattle office the way Miss Prissy Butt did. But that was never my style - I was always the one in the back of the room - I knew the answer & my hand would be up - but the teacher never called on me until last. The one thing I could not do was get up & recite a poem until everyone left the class room & I was alone with the teacher & tears falling down my cheeks as I recited it word for word. She would demean me & make me feel ashamed. Fhis followed me all through my life. Even as an adult I suggested & set up a little theater in our small town - yet, I blew a one line part. After that I just did props & helped people learn their lines & position. Why I do not interview well & why NO ONE has heard me. Why this thread has been my voice! Larry Carr did threaten me - he told me if I came to WA I was going to be in big trouble! I should have stood up to him and have done what Marla did - but that is just NOT me. Hell, I couldn't even handle being interviewed in a room with only a handful of people - they were telling me what to say & I was NOT going to lie on TV. So I walked out. Doug Pasternak took over in my place. I never even listened to the tape...yet someone on this thread - I believe Georger posted a picture of me turning around to the man who was instructing me - & you could see the dismay in my face - that is when I walked OUT! If they wanted lies - well they didn't need me there. I was calling the young man down who had told me Duane was never in the ARMY. If they were that inadequate they didn't need to be FBI Agents. In 2001 when I was out there I should have made a stand then and /or in 2010 and have forced them to have presented that file and Jefferson Pictures at that time. There is a little something in that picture NONE of you caught - not even me. Note they drew Cooper with one eye just a little different - she called it a lazy eye and she NOTED that Duane also had a lazy eye, but on the opposite side....she has shown that to some of her friends who are artist and they also thought the same thing.. and it is a common mistake if some one remembers something like that an they are looking at them they might state left for right and/or not remember which eye was different. The composite and the Jefferson pic with the explanation of the tilt of the head, a close hair cut (I expect he cut his hair himself or his wife did it)....it is dead on. Remember he was on the lame for a couple of months before they caught him in 1976. The teeth or an ill fitting prothestic explained the mouth & chin - ALL other pics of Duane showed a stronger chin just like the composite....this is a detail pic and not the snapshots Ms Prissy present of her brother. So the FBI spent 10 more yrs of the tax payers' money and look what they got for it...MORE taxpayer money thrown away. Miss Prissy put the FBI in a hell of a position. It didn't take people long to figure out she was phony! The only picture she made public didn't look at all like Cooper. Hope they all got a kick out of it....by that I mean I hope the AGENT got a good kick in the ASS. Could of, should of - well I chose the written word and I have answered all of the DAMN questions. ONE thing one of the posters WANTED me to go along with many yrs ago....I should have corrected (I did later). I had mistakenly made a statement & I got put thru the ringer with it....just had the places Duane took me to out of order....but I fixed that the best I could....I was an adult trying to remember the order of the locations...I miss stated the sequence of one of the locations - and I caught hell about that because one individual didn't want it the way it really was because it washed his theory. Well, today all that matters is the truth. That was a minor thing and didn't prove or disprove Weber was or wasn't Cooper. That damn Jefferson intake - should have been ALL OVER THE WA. papers and you can bet your life saving at that time someone might still been alive and or the witnesses might not have buried all of their memories - NOW after 18 yrs of fighting this thing - and the witnesses would NOT be able to remember what they saw 43 yrs ago. As for the Lazy eye - I never noted that Duane had a lazy eye but the artist or one of the witnesses noted it - either they couldn't remember which eye or the artist got it wrong...then you have the pursing of the mouth to hold in poor temporary. ONLY picture of DUane out there with a weak chin. Pictures before and after. ENLARGE the FBI composite to the size the artist drew and see the line of the hair on the forehead and see what he was trying to portray...the DAMN FBI didn't even catch it - perhaps ORDERS not to do so. When the artist drew the composite it is easy for the witness to note the lazy eye, but might not remember which eye. I had not noticed it - I just recognized those eyes as being dead on for Duane Weber. Enlarging the composite the other things are there also. The witnesses never said his hair was straight - it was wavy. Good MORNING and Good bye - I am tired very tired - I have been up all night and yes I have cursed the FBI for the last 4 yrs and more tonight than I have in the 17 yrs this has been going on. Oh - the artist I had shown things to before - well he thinks is dead on. Duane had the means, the motive and balls to have done what Cooper did....he was a criminal and had NO future...and had just been diagnosed with the same disease his mother died of. Well, it was go out big time or die....he didn't really care. The hell of it! He survived & live many more yrs all because of technology. ONE has to QUESTION why was he so damn successful in his work after that. Now anyone who might still be alive won't remember that man and the FBI will just bury the file. They don't care that my life has been used up on this - they do not want to admit they made a mistake....and if they knew he was Cooper then they had orders to STAY QUIET!....probably because of the very things I have told about Cooper - the GOVERNMENT owed him for something he could never take credit for. I think they kept the damn promise in 1990 - and I think the Goverment or someone provided him with the money he needed to finish out his life. ODD - he ask me to stop by the bank when I took him to the hospital that last time. He drew out the account and handed it to me and told me - you are going to need this. Then while in the HOSPITAL he kept telling me we needed to go for a ride and that he had something he needed for me to have. I think there was another bank because 10 yrs later it showed John Collins having a safe deposit box with over 2k in it...but again the DAMN FBI would not provide me with the Jefferson File which is what I needed to prove I was also the widow of John Collins. THIS is when CARR was incharge and he pissed me off BIG time on that. I even gave him the name of the bank and the amount stated in that account. They rotate the agents in and out and then you get the arrogant ones like CARR... Well, I have been up all night - and I expect the DZ will survive without me - because I expect them to get orders from the FBI to shut the thread DOWN! So I will take time to do these photos ONE more time. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I am not the ONLY woman who post here - I am responsible the damn thing even exists. I started one and it crashed because of a lot of FLACK, then Quade started this one with SPECIFIC rules! I am the widow of a man who told me a few days before he died "I'm Dan Cooper" Well, this DUMB BROAD didn't know who DAN Cooper was until 1 yr and 2 months later. Duane Died in March of 1995 and it would be May of 1996 before I learned who and what Dan Cooper was and the the memories took over. I made UP NONE of this CRAP. I did get caught up in the theories like very one else - and then they started in on details. Not being an accomplished user of a computer - it has been rocky to say the least. I had NO maps - all I had was my memory and even thought I got led around and into a lot of theory - I still stayed the course. The worse part was when one of the poster asked me to go along with him on something I mistakenly stated - but it was a very honest error....After my 2010 trip (15 days and very expensive and trying to locate the thing Duane told me about and showed me and trying to get some order in them)....a very difficult task for an old woman who had never driven in WA and had only been there twice before. 1 With Duane in 1979 2. with movie crew in 2001 - a crew who knew ZERO about WA or the STORY and a guide who had lived there for 2 yr as a student. 3. With a decent guide this could have been over yrs and yrs ago. 4 In 2010 I went back BY MYSELF with CARR's THREAT he made in this thread that I would get in a lot of trouble if I went to WA. 5. I got thare and did NOT want to come home, but I was broke...and had to go home. 6. Airline ticket 2ways, Car rental (due to my problem had to rent a large Highlander - they had to keep filling the windshield tank up....nothing on that damn thing was like my car other then the steeing wheel....and the door. 7. Bruce was afraid to drive with me and that one day we took his old truck and it poured rain all day long....