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DUHHhh! You Robert99 invented a NEW route. A route NOT susported by the crew, witnesses who claimed sitings of the plane, Himmelsbach, the co-pilot, the pilot or the engineer. Are you Robt99 calling Himmelsbach a liar. Are you calling the guy at the controls on one of the chase plane (not the fast ones a slower one) a liar...yea, I was actually able to talk to a pilot of one of these planes yrs ago. To much pain today to continue with this. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Today is Sunday - now!

All of the above are true - and I thought if I told them about the 20 others would ONLY be MORE septical of the rest of the story, plus I felt like a stupid fool about myself for not connecting what he said in the hospital to what I found in the Bank (a spitting image of our beloved poodle who was named Symba). Dan Cooper didn't mean anything to me when Duane made his unusual statement. Later when I found the 20 with the inscription inside of the BANK - I was moving on with my life & it was a curiosity, but I had pushed the things he told me in the hospital out of my mind. Remember I didn't know Dan Cooper was D.B.Cooper at that time. After I accidently learned who Dan Cooper was the bill had long since been gone and telling anyone about it my opinion would only have fired more of the negative responses I have had to deal with. I was afraid of the very ridicule I have experienced since I went public. Remember I was the kid in school who was the last one chosen for the soft ball teams - I couldn't hit the ball - I always stuck out. Yet, I was in the upper 10 percent intellectually. I hate card games - and games or any kind - period....strategy is NOT part of my intellect. I have kept many secrets about my life - things NO ONE knows. NO ONE needs to know about them and to tell would only harm others so I carry many many secret regarding my life as a girl and a young woman. I evade things, but I do NOT ever lie about things....some of my theories and exploration regarding Cooper damaged what others thought of me. Even my personal life has been attacked - by individuals like Cook as he was the worse. Bruce is another example. My life has been relatively public for several yrs....and if the FBI had provided the Polygraph test - I would have told them about the finding in the bank. IF the FBI had sat down with me and have looked me in the eyes - I would have told them ALL I knew, but they chose NOT to interview me outside of that first and only interview by an agent who had to look up Cooper to conduct his interview in 1997 and then their letter in 1998. Why would I give this thread and others more fodder to make fun of me? Do you think I enjoy others picking every word I say, utter or write apart? Mostly I felt foolish for not connecting what Duane said in the hospital to what was written on that 20 inside of Symba. BUT, DAN COOPER meant absolutely nothing to me...and I was in the process of moving on with my life - and was letting go of the past at that time. It would be months later when I learned that Dan Cooper was D.B.Cooper. SO yes, I didn't want to be made fun of....so I kept it to myself other than a couple of friends and one family member...in my opinion I felt telling about the 20 would be detrimental and not helpful. The World Most Stupid Bimbo. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Blevins, I think you are right about the names. Jerrie Cobb was probably the maiden name of Jerrie Mock. The surname of the grandchild that announced her death was not Mock. I'll see if I can correct my reply to Jo Weber's original post about Jerrie Mock. Robert99

377 you are an attorney I cannot believe you are totally scrambling this out of proportion. The confession was a few days before he died. The 20 found in the bank was several months later. I didn't know that D.B. Cooper had given the name of Dan Cooper until One yr and 2 month after Duane died. I felt if I told about the 20 it would be denounced as is being done. I only related the fact at this stage as I want everything I know to be stated....and the results is exactly what I expected. I had NO exposure to the criminal world or to others who lie for a profession...other than a 17 yr marriage to a man who was smart enough to HIDE his life from me....that took a few skills - did it not? I guess not if the woman is a BIMBO in capital letters! What I do have is my recall ability and as for not knowning who Robt 99 is or remembering his picture - I have NO reason to do so. Most of his postings have been pure hype - and his take on the flight path as I understand what he is saying - is the total opposite of what the FBI, Himmelsback, the co-pilot, the pilot and searchers to include the authorities & others have contended for yrs...individual who were there or on the plane. I spoke to many of the above and I have emails and have read the books (a book is just a book and a conglomeration of memories - actual truths or made up). The first hand accountings are what is the most important as meager as they maybe....and as insignificant as some of you make them....just to TOOT your abilities which is not first person, but after the fact in the events. Why would the "witnesses and other involved in the process - distort the fact?" They did - all 5 of them say basically the same thing. Now 43 yrs later - they have supposedly changed their stories, but I did NOT hear those changes from the individuals I speak of. The changes are made by "others" either to serve their own agenda or to write a book or just to be heard. These writers are just wannabes or someone looking for the answers. D.B.Cooper like all of the other mysteries of the past - the 50's, 60's & 70's will be altered by others for generation to satisfy some weird self-serving agenda. Duane was not worried about having one of the 20's after he retrived his souvenirs from their hiding place - he was on the kidney machine & he knew is days were numbered. He was a keeper of secrets - think about all of the things he hid from me over the 18 yrs I knew him.... He also knew I checked that bank once a yr - to see how much we had put in it. The bank was the image of our dog Symba. Remember Duane when we buried Symba a few months before Duane died...I thought he put something in the casket with Symba...He was alone with him in the garage for several minutes and he had a plastic pill bottle which he told me was something he wanted Symba to have. This is why I searched so hard to find Symba's grave and then when we did it smelled gross...all mushy. Symba had been wrapped in plastic (I assume Duane did this ) and then put in to the durable storage container of HIGH impact plastic. He was buried 5 feet down. None of us could stand the smell, but it was 6 yrs after Symba had died and his body was still decomposing....I could not afford nor did I know who to take him to see what was in there with him - he was soupy. We just put him back in the ground. Now I will dream about this eye Closing nose holding event all nigth. You know I can't do this anymore. I have done all I can do and no one will ever believe the truths - they rather live with their fantasy. Cooper died during the jump. Cooper was X, Y or Z individuals. All of you will make Cooper whatever your mind conceives or believes... I was married to Duane L. Weber for many yrs - and I know what he was capable of - not just the dumb crook who always got caught. He kept his past as secret from me for 18 yrs - so you think he wasn't capable of committing the perfect crime? It is easier for you guys to believe I was a dumb bimbo rather than to believe that Weber was pretty damn good at concealing his past and his life. If he was not wanted for a crime - why did he continue to conceal his life and his background from me and from his friends? Why the hell confessed to this one old crime before he died? Why tell me about his life over an 18 yrs period of time in the third person? Why confess when it was too late for anyone to do anything about it? He died a free man! He didn't die in prison. He was a man with true feelings for others - and a good best friend to many - and a man who would take the shirt off his back for someone else. He was giving, grateful and loving. He was also a sad man - a man who had to keep secrets! He was very skillful in keeping those secrets - by telling about himself in the 3rd person. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

You are right - that was Homid I believe so just where do you live? . . . . . You really got hot under the collar really fast....did I hit a nerve with the truths? Jo, You will have to guess again. It wasn't Hominid. I live on the planet Earth. Which planet do you live on? Just remember that Pluto is no longer called a planet. Sorry to disappoint you but I don't get hot under the collar. I just make it a point to get even. What truths? I don't remember seeing any truths in your posts. Robert99 Understand that the photo's I see are on this thread - and if they are too large I can't view them. There was a man on the river with Bruce, but I do not remember which of you characters it was. So who was that picture of? I don't know it was unimportant to me. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I am not being selective - I just say what I think. I tell about the things I believe might prove Duane was Cooper and I also talk about things others do not believe. Truth is often far more difficult than developing a fantasy. I have NO reason to hide anything and I just tell what I know. Since the important things will never be investigated and the FBI has a pre-plan of Cooper, nothing I tell will sway them. At one time I posted a picture of a female pilot standing beside her plane, but she was older and her hair was gray. The news carried other pictures of this woman because she died at the age of 88 in her sleep. She studied aeronautical enginnering at Ohio State University. Geraldine "Jerrie" Mock but they never give he maiden name or the names of her children. She was 2 yrs younger than Duane. Just trivival and a change of pace. Good Night. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Duane has NO living relatives. There is a possible son out there, but it was unverifiable. The Daughter is deceased...if the one I found was her. His sister had 3 kid and only one of those is alive - he is the Roach. The brother had NO children of his own. The family tree died off. I have his cremains but I understand the are not viable DNA although there are very very large pieces of him in there. When My last husband was cremated there was hardly anything left.....1995 versus 2008 & the equipment used. I believe they could get DNA out of the watch band....all I have left. Has been handled by myself and others. The other watch I clean up with que tips & alcohol in the grooves of the band. Remember there is only particial dna on the tie and that tie may not have been Coopers. The mail in dna's are NOT really very good - because it is not the detailed DNA the FBI needs. During my search I had reason to make a serious enquiry about the DNA tests. The mail in test is not the same tests the FBI would use....ask Vickie about this - she would know. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Well, you just read some & they made you really angry. Sound like you are the one with an anger issue - so tell us what areas you have lived in and worked! What makes you such an expert and why are you trying to dismiss Mr. H and the co-pilot and the story they told for yrs? Why are you trying to twist the truths with the flight path? What is your motive? You have taken a group of men and convinced them that a lie is the truth & the truth is a lie....you are very skilled at doing that. But, I like others here have read the other accountings - and those early & original accountings mean more than any of the hype you & others can create. You are just a bored old man with an agenda and a motive. You relish using others & proving you can manipulate how they think. Me thinks you were trained to use those methods - you sound like an interogator whose motive is not on the side proving the truths. You aren't getting even with anyone - you are leading them and you can't stand it when the voice of logic exceeds your intellectual mumbo jumb interpretations and scrambles. The flight path has now become scrambled eggs - if everyone agrees with you! I believe what the FBI released in 1971 & 1972 and what Mr. Himmelsbach and the Co-pilot and the engineer and the pilot said - remember I actually talked to ALL of them. Anyone that was still alive and I was able to access....I picked up the phone and called them. Of course I didn't know the technical terms and the conversations were dumbed down for a woman. One individual from above I called the widow to offer my condolences and how much the conversation with her husband had meant to me. As he said and she said - he really "didn't like to talk about it" - but, he made an acception for me. HAVE TO ASK YOURSELF WHY? Perhaps being kind or perhaps feeling I needed answers. Perhaps because he thought Weber was Cooper. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

What I have withheld was in my judgement things that would have made it sound like I was making things up - such as WHY I never talked about the 20 with Dan Cooper written in red...Maybe it was part of the ransom and maybe it was put there as a joke....whatever! I didn't get the joke or the message. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I withheld the information about the 20 because NO one would have believed it & I would have gotten flack about it. Now I just don't care- I just want all of it out there - so maybe someday - others will know that I have told the truth. NOT holding on to things! If I had told the story about the 20 Dollar bill yrs ago, you guys & the media would have slaugtered me. A 20 that I would never be able to prove I had. I know I gave it to the clerk at the Ramada Inn when I paid my bill. I sat there sipping on my toasted almond playing with the 20 making a ring out of it. The man sitting next to me started doing the same thing. Just useless chatter - it was a twenty with a name written on it - a name that did not mean anything to me. I was trying to escape the past and move on - I was not dwelling in the past - not until I found out who DAN COOPER was. I wish I had never learned who Dan Cooper was then perhaps I would have had a chance to lead a normal life - not one consumed with the knowledge I have of an old crime NO ONE but me wants solved. NONE of you can possibly know how frustrating & consuming it is to know you have told the truth and yet, the world has been convinced you are creating a fantasy as JT put it. I have made mistakes, but I have NOT lied & I have got off track....yes, and every once in awhile I had a little fun with a tease or two or more. If I go any further I will be bawling my eyes out - but I do that often now. I am staring at my fate in the mirror watching as the image becomes old and tired and haggared - knowing what is around the corner....and knowing what people think of me. I failed - I didn't listen enough and I just didn't get it. JUST a dumb stupid broad. Damn! I had to have been one naive broad to have been married to him for 18 yrs accepting and naive. Duane had faults - but, NOW I know what those faults were and I know why he reacted in a secretive way. If I had known he was in that many prisons - I would never have married him...I always wondered about the nightmare - but he explained it away and I did NOT dwelled on it. Duane was impotent and lousy in the bed - but he had a great sunny personality and good manners and everyone who met him loved him - he didn't make enemies. He made me feel protected and cherished. He was handsome in a rugged kind of way - he polished up just fine! He was proud of what he became and had I have known his past - I would have been even more proud for him. I have done all I could do to tell the story I was intended to tell & I truely believe he chose me to tell his story....but he knew if he told me before it was time to say goodbye - that I would have left him standing alone to face his fate & he would have died in a prison. Duane never fully trusted - he was always aware of his surrounding and his eyes would roam around the room for a familiar face. He did this at a restuarant we went to in Va.Bch....I was aware of this habit in other places but that night it was REALLY obviouse. He knew me well - he just ran out of time and I didn't understand what he was telling me & showing me & what he tried to tell me, but death slipped upon him before he could explain it to me or to show me what I needed to take to the FBI....I also believe he was protecting someone or others. His sister tried to tell me what I would need to know - I will not forget our last desperate phone conversation before her son took her to the lower mid west to live out her days. She had a son who is retired military and his mother was the brother of Dan Cooper...maybe he was afraid it would reflect on his position and maybe his mother never told him. He had two brothers or half brother who died before their mother died...I do not know if he was a product of her first marriage or second marriage. The first one was a Roach, but that is all I know. He was military with a special kind of training and wanted Duane to work with him...per the brief story Duane told me about him. She left him - or he died - I never asked & did not really know much about her past. I believe there might have been a third marriage, later in life- but I never thought it important to remember these things. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Robt99 377 replied to that with: 377 JO states: Well, I do NOT hate the FBI, I just feel they dropped the ball & never truely went back to reinvestigated Weber. I believe their decision was made & they did NOT want to back down - but, they also never came to see me or to interview me after the Agent returned the papers he copied in 1998.... Duane died in 1995 I find out who Cooper was in 1996. I find Himmelsbach in the summer of 1996. In 1997 before an agent came to see me. By 1998 they had dismissed Weber - per a letter, based only on prints. By 2000 I had enough information to say - LOOK AGAIN! This would include military and prison records the FBI claimed DID NOT EXIST. The additional info was WHY I went public - because the agent was totally misinformed....stating things from a file that were not correct. I was holding proof they had screwed up. As far as the 20 dollar bill. Who would have believed me? I wasn't going to allow myself to appear anymore naive & foolish than I already felt. Do you think they would have believed me? As for the watch the FBI did NOT ask for DNA until 2003 and did not test the items until 2007 per the report accidentally left in the box of items they returned to me in 2008 at my request. So you think I was foolish by not turning a very expensive watch over to them? It was also something Duane was proud of and I was NOT going to let go of it The had the pictures of him wearing the watch. I was told Cooper had NO jewelry on - the FBI did NOT ASK me about a watch. I am the one who now yrs later has stated that the witnesses would NOT have considered the watch as jewelry....the FBI did not get this. Everyone assumed jewelry meant a watch - but by 1971 standards a watch WAS NOT considered jewelry. A child was able to wear a watch to school, but not a bracelet or ring or necklace or earrings. The FBI wasn't talking to me & I trusted Himmelsbach to have enough connections to relay things he & I discussed. I was trying to let the FBI do its job. Rarely do you get past the mouthpiece to the investigative agent. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Below is an old post that some of you need to THINK about - This post was made several yrs ago: Read it againa and think about all of the posting I have made: 'Funny stuff' One former Evergreen Air Center official who found the company fascinating was C. Roger Fulton, vice president for administration during most of 1980. Fulton was working for a Tucson shopping mall when Evergreen hired him to help run its business office. He said he had become convinced by a number of small, undramatic happenings that the air center was still involved in covert activities. "It was a collection of funny stuff,'' Fulton said. He recalled, for example, being politely steered away from a meeting between George Doole and some of the old Intermountain hands. source That proves it! Duane was a smoke jumper who worked for the CIA. was this post on topic? only g knows... Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

FBI screw up from get go: The files that support the Commutation of Sentence have either been purged or never existed. The FBI also ignored a man called Roach. Now it is as though he never existed. Who were Duane's (John's) buddies in Jefferson - what was their background? Who is Roach? Who is Gunn? Why was I threatened by someone who knew Duane as John? Well, in 2008 I was talking about Roach and chastizing the FBI for NOT investigating why or how they commuted the sentence of a 6 time looser with a large criminal file....but they didn't know they had Duane L. Weber - they had John Collins. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Robt99 said: You are right - that was Homid I believe so just where do you live? ===================== Robt99 said You can accuse me of all you want about the CIA articles - but I knew the stories only because of the things Duane said over the yrs. Until I started researching the things Duane talked about, I had never read any of them unless they were in a newspaper. I always stayed out of the military stuff unless it was in the Newspaper. You really got hot under the collar really fast....did I hit a nerve with the truths? The 20 I did find in the bank we had and it did have Dan Cooper written on it in red ink....but, I was not thinking about Duane and was moving on with my life. I was back in school & working at the same time...I felt I needed a night out and found that 20 in the bank. I sat at the bar making it into a ring as the man next to me talked to me. I decided to use that 20 to pay the bartender rather than use my credit card. Excuse me for reliving an old memory...one I kept to myself because I KNEW exactly the kind of reactions I would get - WHY I never told this before. Stupid DUMB broad! In 1996 when I found out who D.B.Cooper was - I kept this to myself - I just didn't want everyone to know how naive I was. Besides who would have believed me and the reactions that have been recited are exactly why I never told it to anyone. But, recently I have been letting go of a lot of things....and that was one I should have kept to myself...for 18 yrs I have kept that close to my heart and everytime I think about it I call myself a DUMB STUPID BROAD. Duane said Dan Cooper in the Hospital and a few months later there is a 20 with Dan Cooper on it, but at that time I was NOT thinking about the things he told me in the hospital - I had pushed those 3 wk far out of my mind. If I had remembered what Duane said in the hospital & knew about Dan Cooper I would have been on the phone to the FBI...but I would NOT know who Dan Cooper was until May of 1996. I have kicked myself many time over and over about that and perhaps I should have kept it to myself. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

What did you say your history was? Well, let me assure you I am not one of the typical bimbo's Weber associated with in his past. Tell the thread about YOUR history - all of it! You see I record things in my brain - things that later I find a use for.... I am loosing names and dates now due to my age - but stupid I am NOT. Your interest in the case stems from more than a general interest and that is obvious. Your loss - you didn't realize how much I really knew! It was just a matter of time before the dots imbedded in my memory connected. It is obvious the Roach thing upset you or you would never have made that posting. YOU didn't know how much I knew - you wrote me off as a bimbo. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Robert99 you can reserve comments like that for others - but I will NOT allow you to demean me in any way. The postings I made came right out of the book written by Ralph H. What Mr. H said about the flight in his book was backed up in my conversations with the co-pilot. Why are you so pushed to move the flight path and to dispute the words of Mr. H and the co-pilot and others? I think I NOW know WHO you are. I thought the picture posted of you with Bruce looked familiar and I wondered why you would travel to WA from - TX to do your research. You are also the right age. What are you trying to do - save your own hide or hide secrets? OR are you just a blow hard who wants to be heard...your theory has absolutely nothing to do with the truths - you are HIDING something. WHAT is your real name and what is your history. Mr. Roach had associates and Mr. Roach is deceased. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Sir, I am not going to create something out of nothing. The old news clipping in the wallet was NOT a message to me. Since the man referenced in the article was probably Duane's ex-brother-in-law - his name was Roach and from CA as was the husband of Duane's sister - and it spoke of a bomb shelter. What-ever Cugie wants Cugie gets. The only person to make anything out of this was Gray and then I realized the article MIGHT relate to his relationship with the brother-in-law (the one Duane worried about for the sake of his sister). This is pure theory on my part other than the article itself & Duane telling me about his concerns regarding a man in 1962 his sister was married to. I thought the article referenced a play in New York. Gray latched onto that article - but at the time my brain did not entertain the connections regarding the name Roach. Later I connected the name Roach & Ca - The sister is the one who signed Duane out of Canon in 1962 and he went home with her for awhile - her name was Roach in 1962, Duane commented about some of the STUFF his sister's husband was into. He said he was concerned about the safety of his sister while she was married to him. This man supposedly could kill a man with ONE hand - and his skills involved being able to do that -a mercenary trained to kill....and the other thing Duane mentioned about this man - no one would believe me if I told them. Was any of what Duane told me true? - I do not know. Duane mentioned the man was a jumper at that time....and I have often wondered if Roach was NOT how Duane got involved with Intermountain Communications. I knew NOTHING of Intermountain Communications at that time. Duane spent a couple of month going out and training with this man...what he was training him to do....I do NOT know! Connecting dots is all I can do & some of those dots just go off the page. I have NO idea what your post meant. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

The stuff I called the FBI with all I got to talk to was the mouthpiece and the information never got to the individual actually doing the searches. I give up - I can't do this anymore and continuely be called the liar when I have done NOTHING but tell the truth. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

His neighbor told me that he knew the man was lieing about something and that he did NOT trust him at all. As he told me if there was something there it is gone now and I will never know the truth and he thinks he would not have told the wife. He felt there was more in that Van than was told. The guy did call me and offered to sell the vehicle back to me but at that time I felt it would have been stripped out - probably would have had to have been towed to my house. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

His girl friend bought the vehicle for him to work out of. When he went to rebuild the arrangement to make it suitable for his purposes he moved one of the seat and relocated it to the front seat that had wear on it. and diposed of that driver seat. I expect the wallet and other things where concealed with in the wire frame under it. He called to tell me he had found my husbands wallet, but I had Duane's wallet. What he found was the wallet with all of the John Collins ID, but I kept asking him about a map. 2 wks later he brings me the wallet and I ask what was in it....he said. "I didn't look in it" First lie he wasn't smart enought to remember what he told me the first time. I quized him about anything else he may have found jewelry and money. Several months later when I understood who Weber was I again contacted him and this time I went to his home....his wife refused to come into the room and she said NOTHING and could not look me straight in the eye. When the FBI came - I do not know what he told them. Then last yr he and his wife had split and again I got intouch with him and before the conversation was over - I asked him if he knew the random was in 20's and he said no I didn't know that and hung up. What would you have thought - 2 different stories and they did NOT match. Also during that time my home was broken into and the only thing askew was the fire iron with the tops off of them - the door lock had been broke. Nothing in the house was missing...so he may have put some 20's in the Brass iron handles as they were hollow. Again I didn't know what to think about that. I have been telling this since GET GO, but did not become accusatory unitil the last contact in the last couple of yrs. The part I never told was about the one bill I found after he died - had Dan Cooper written on it in red ink, but remember at that time I did NOT know who DAN Cooper was. It was folded into a triangle - everything is around triangles. If I had told the FBI about the 20 would they have believed me - NO! This is not the first time I have told this...but not something I told the FBI in the beginning as what was the use - they would not have believed me. Remember it was before I knew D.B.Cooper had used Dan Cooper. It would not be until I started to day 1 yr and 3 months after Duane died that I found out who DAN COOPER was. WHat would you have done? The other plane was big and heavy s- I switch planes on you - go read Himmelsbachs book it is ALL there. It was the single larger one that was following when the 727 made all of those turns. I have read other accounting that state this same thing and there is a Map that show the 727 passing East of Portland - and not West. At the point they had the zags it appears the plane was too far South to have crossed back over to the West...but it is just one of the man maps. Himmelsbach and Ratazak put that map together I believe...I really do NOT know who developed the map for Himmeslbachs book but one would think it was close. The sharp muliple turns of the 727 is puzzling to me. It contradict what other map have been produced. My credibility has been just find - just because you guys want the saga to go on and on -not me. Did you talk to the co-pilot and Himmeslbach and the pilot and the engineer - I did. My notes are all there in my files...I didn't know what they were saying and I didn't aske the right question, but the fBI wasn't helping me so I did what I could do. The man who got the van had a very Christian wife - and I think she was responsible for the wallet being returned - he may NOT have told her what was in the wallet. I spoke with her before I spoke to him the last time - they were separated and getting a divorce - he was into a lot of things and she could not live her life like that. After the wallet was found she was flying back and forth to see him everywkend in South Fl. SO how was he about to afford that? THE FBI did NOT concentrate on her - she may not have known were the money was coming from - and thought he was doing well in the south Fl markets. If she knew anything at all - she would never tell because of her position - her employment! They are not together now. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

NorT American Air Defense Command's 318 Fighter Squadron at McCHord tried to track the plane, but they moved to fast and made S track they had to back off it was just too dangerous. They couldn't even see the aft stairs. Then Idaho Air National Gurad F102s were in the chase...they failed. A reserve T33 on a night training mission was diverted to follow the 727. Seattle wanted them to trail the Skyjacked plane. Seattle had to keep telling the T33 to slow down. It was 3 miles behind the skyjacked flight.The pilot wanted to know "WHAT IS THAT GUY CHANGING COURSES FOR?" The skyjacked plane was changing course 45 degrees every 30 seconds. I KNOW what was GOING on at that time time - COOP was on the aft and the pilot was trying to get him off. Now the reports made by the T33 dispute all of the crap the guys have tooted about a westerly flight path. T33 followed the craft with landing gear & flaps down trying to maintian contact with the 727. Now what the ZIGZAG was all about...the plane was below Mt St Helens and the pilot wanted Cooper off of that plane. Too 2 hard turns around that area and then a really sharp one that is probabl when Coop left the plane or shorty after...the did PASS East of Portland regardless of what contoction are cooked up by others...because the pilot thought he might have to head for Metford, due to fuel consumption. EVEN then it was known and stated in Himmelsbach's book "Central Intelligence Agency had been using 727's in Vietnam to drop in agents & supplies behind enemy lines....did Dan Cooper know this? I had forgot this was in Himmelsbach's book until tonight. Made me feel REALLY good! You see when I read the book in 1996 after Mr. sent it to me - I didn't re-read it. But have used it for a reference point as I have done tonight and I think about 3 yrs ago on this same subject - the flight path. THE FAA AIR CONTROLLERS IN SEATTLE, PLOTTED THE JET OVER ARIEL, ON THE SOUTHERN OUTREACH OF MT. ST. HELENS Precisely where the most reports came out of and for some reason the FBI held the lid....this is the location of 2 of the witnessses who contacted me. This path also puts the plane West of another location were 4 individual in one place claimed the plane was very low - this was just north of Battleground....I believe the plane they heard was that big T33. Yet AFTER all of these 43 yrs a group of GEEKS claim the plane was else where. Flight 727 was just West of the T33 at that moment. On would think with Seattle tracking all of these planes in the air in such a short span of space - they would know were each one of them was at any given moment....other wise what is the purpose of airtraffic control? TINA'S DESCRIPTION WAS CAUCASION OF DARK COMPLEXION - NOT ONE WORD ABOUT OLIVE SKIN! THE SHOES WERE DESCRIBED AS LACELESS OR LOAFER....LACELESS AS THE LOW CUT WITH THE ZIPPER MAYBE? HE MAY HAVE PUT A PAIR OF ANKLE SNAP RUBBERS OVER THE SHOES AS DUANE ALWAYS HAD A PAIR OF THOSE IN HIS RAINCOAT. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

NO _ you are WRONG I am a bigger fool than anyone knows. I have something I have not told because you guys would call me the DUMBEST BROAD in the world. What was in SYMBA was not in the grave with him - it was in Plain site and I didn't understand what it meant....and I kept thinking surely there was more. I spent the damn 20 with Dan Cooper written on it in RED. This was BEFORE I knew who DAN COOPER was....it was neatly fold and in the bank and it had Dan Cooper written on it in red ink. There was NO need to tell this before - because WHO THE HELL WOULD believe me. SO now I will tell you? BUT it is WHY I will NEVER give UP. I spent the DAMN 20, but it is just my word and my word is not worth 2 cents. Whatever was in that damn VAN was very improtant - but, who will ever convince the man who bought it to tell the truth. Probably more 20's with Dan Cooper written on them...in red ink. He had a bill he had waxed to preserve it - a foreign bill and I asked about it - he said it was just an experiment he was trying...so I believe that some where he did WAX one of the bills but where the hell did he put it. I searched the house the best I could before I sold it...and the only thing I kept thinking was that old Paul Bunyan bedrooms suite I sold after he died. I didn't check the bottom of the drawer or anything....it was way too large for that small bedroom and I just wanted it go go away. BUT, this was before I found out who DAN COOPER WAS. All of this makes me the DUMBEST broad in the USA - I have beat myself up over this silently for many yrs now. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Cooper did NOT have olive skin. Cooper had a swarthy complexion and that is a LONG way from olive. Florence had a cuban background if I remember correctly. Her complexion was more golden than Coopers. Coopers was ashy compare to her suntanned body. Odd - very ODD! He had a grudge only because was ASKED by Tina if he had a grudge. He was pissed - he had been told he didn't have long to live - but medical science & his changing the way he lived gave him a lot of yrs he did NOT expect. Weber's basic jobs prior to 1972 where doorman and kitchen manager, food service or garbage clean up or dishwasher or dumpster diver, road worker - I am being a little facitous as he did have OTHER jobs and he did a lot of illegal JOBS! He also charmed wealty women and then relieved them of their jewelry and money. Some of his scores where in the $10,000's such as high grade diamonds, furs and expensive watches along with what ever cash they had on them. I was told this by his exwife and his young stepson who was only eight yrs old at the time....suitcases of furs and jewelry ---- but he was just an 8 yr old left with a 14 yr old sister for days at a time. The Stepdaughter did NOT survive her mismanaged childhood, but the young man - I wish I could give him a hug - but he knows how proud I am of what he has done with his life - and that is all that matters....I leave him with his privacy, but I often look at the picture of him and his family and think "What if" and wish them well. Duane and his wife - did cleanups for airplanes and delivered the meals for about 3 wks....how he explained everything to me at the airport in Denver in 1977 before we moved to Ft. Collins. Duane Weber was in Ft. Lauderdale at the Fontain Bleu when the BAY of the PIGS was supposed to come down....he was seen and spoke to on that night by a friend of the family - this was written to John Duane's brother. John's old friend knew Duane and reported this back to John. I have this in a letter written to me by JOHN and it names the family member/friend. Tina was instructed to ask Cooper if he had a grudge - and that is what brought up the grudge thing. Duane's grudge was he had kidney disease he had inherited from his mother. He had found this out in 1970 or 1971 while at Emory Hospital in the early part of the yr. NO secret about the hair - it is clearly shown in a picture of Duane Weber and in the composite - all you have to do is enlarge the pic to pages size or poster size and see what the artist was trying to portray...then they did another composite that looked nothing like the first one - perhaps different artists. A third on was done by a TV artist with a suspect in mind. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Finger Prints - I do not believe the FBI has valid prints and if they do - the prints of Cooper have gone POOF - it was a form of Blackmail. You guys figure out why! They would have had to compare them with ALL prints why the HELL do you guys think they didn't know who Duane Weber was arrested when he was arrrested in 1966 as John Collins. Do YOU not see there is a serious problem with this! Obviously his original prints from WA had been removed from the system and or changed. Maybe that was the condition of his participation 1962 to 1964...in a convert action. But, in 1962 upon his release from Canon City - did his prints EVER make it into the data base that was being created? The FBI didn't find or make public the prints of Weber....MY guy was the one who obtained them from McNeil a prison the FBI claimed in 1996 Duane Weber was NOT a resident of. DO NOT ANY OF YOU SEE ALL OF THIS. I am not good at explaining things, but in 1966 when Duane was arrested as John Collins it is OBVIOUSE his prints were NOT in the system and yet he had been trouble from 1946 to 1966. So if Duane's domestic criminal prints where erased from the system in exchange for what he did for the government - that is all that explains HOW the FBI missed the point he was a 5 time felon by the name of Duane Weber when the sentenced him to Jefferson. Then because I went public and kept demanding pics and then some one got the pics - and low and behold they hoped that would shut me up - but it just added more to my reasons to find the truth. Number ONE Jo Weber is not a LIAR nor is she making up any of this crap...IT really happened. If Weber's prints where not in the system in 1966 when they sent him to Jefferson as John Collins - then they were probably not in the system in 1971....if so - they belonged to a man who did not exist - John Collins. Only Jo Weber knows for sure! The FBI had prints with dental Glue on the them....perhaps they need to check that out or find out if the prints in his file really belong to Weber or have they been switched out! Something happened when he was sent to Jefferson - they did NOT know they had a multi criminal on their hands - he was out in less than 16 months - with his record they should have locked him up and threw away the key. Cooper did keep putting his hands in his pocket and this came from the stewardess. Cooper did NOT have olive skin. Cooper had a swarthy complexion and that is a LONG way from olive. Florence had a cuban background if I remember correctly. Her complexion was more golden than Coopers. Coopers was ashy compare to her suntanned body. Odd - very ODD! He had a grudge only because was ASKED by Tina if he had a grudge. He was pissed - he had been told he didn't have long to live - but medical science & his changing the way he lived gave him a lot of yrs he did NOT expect. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber