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Georger states: I didnt mean to be sharp with you concerning names ... sorry if it came across that way. Its just that some have spent a long time on all of this and names pretty get ordained, become icons, eg Teddy vs a Ted. Teddy as in Teddy Mayfield aka Teddy Bear. All of this has historical background you could only know if you've been here (involved) a while. Some feel Myers and Dvorak and a TV station not worth mentioning did a real number on Ted Mayfield. Some were surprised Ted didnt sue the hell out of all concerned. Its one thing to be investigating - its quite another to be promoting and making public allegations which harm a person's life. Jerry knows all about Teddy and H. Maybe Jerry will explain a few things to you off record - or maybe he won't. Jerry's choice. It sufficies to say Ted Mayfield was investigated thoroughly, over time, independent of Ralph Himmeslbach, and Mr. Mayfield came out clean in the Cooper case. These are of course just my opinions... Jo Agrees; Georger my conversations with Mayfield had good results - he is OK. and so is his wife. Mayfield I believe was used by some ruthless individuals - whom I have personally had to deal with and it was not fun. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

You are full of you know what. I have never claimed to talk to Florence and yes, I know where she lives...don't have the address or phone number. No way anyone can prove I made up anything, because I keep to the truth unless it was exploring a theory which I don't do anymore. You need a reality check. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I have spoke with Ted Mayfield in the past on several occassions and he is not Cooper. These guys convinced him that there was money to be made with a book and a movie. He was also told no one would prosecute Cooper after all of these yr. which all of you know is NOT true. Mayfield is a good sport, but when all of this started to play on his personal life he pulled out. Mayfield likes to play games, but not if it engangers his enjoyment of life and his freedom... I would like to meet him in person. And like Guru - he will tell you "I am not Cooper". Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Georger you put in your last post this copy of an old post - I don't remember what it was referencing, but probably something about the cabin or river house I had been trying to explain to the forum. ====================== Post #1251 of 1694 (1356 views) Copy Shortcut Registered: Nov 12, 2006 Posts: 1609 Re: [SafecrackingPLF] The Solution [In reply to] There was a cabin on the river. One of those places was this spot on the river... a person with her told her that there used to small cabins or "shacks" as you say. Now there are homes. My understanding of this particular location is that it's somewhere between the I-5 and I-205 freeways. Skyjack71, if I'm incorrect on any of the above, please correct it. ====================== The above post was Safecracking talking and in the next post is also Safacracking talking trying to answer some question I ask I assume. Safecracking stated: "You asked about a possible old hunter's shack. Well, I don't know about this, BUT on that beach where the money was found, there are a few buildings that might be described as a shack. I don't know if they were there in 71 though. If there were, my guess is these were all searched in 1980 as was that whole beach. " Wasn't Weber referencing a couple of shacks where he buried somthing according to Jo???? He later tried to return to this area on a "sentimental Journey" Could one of these been built on stilts to keep dry from flooding thus have " a lookout tower" look to it, as also Jo referenced? If this is the case Cooper buries the money behind these buildings located right where the first money was recovered and washes down to the river and goes bye bye. Below is my response to his inquiry in 2008: Jo Talking: I never said anything like that! This is the way it was: (I am making some date corrections as I go). I was at Tena' Bar in 2001 - there were no shacks there - it used to be a farm. I referenced cabins and not shacks and the area of concern is much further EAST. NOT at Tena's Bar. On the Sentimental Journey - he took me to what I think was his safe place and that was a long way from his drop. He did take me to the Columbia after we left Seattle on the way to Tahoe To where there used to be an old Cabin (or a river home) - which is not there anymore...this is when he went down the hill and told me to stay in the car. The above was me trying to explain our trip from Seattle and the 3 stops along the Columbia that day The first which was East of I-5 and down on the Columbia East of Winterly Park. This is the area he left me in the car to go to the river going down a steep hill - I now think perhaps he buried something on that river rather than digging something up - remember that it was early morning and I went back to sleep in the car. Now when he gets back in the car we go a bit further on the Columbia and this time going West - this is when we stop where there was a loading dock of some kind going out on the Columbia and this large Tank like thing that stored something -obviously and a loading dock for some company. A mention was made of barges. He made a comment about the business - which indicated he either knew the owner or someone who worked there - my memory was always so foggy on this that I did not mention it before - but I am letting all HELL loose now. This large tank was green if I remember right and there was some yellow. When we got back in the car this is when I noticed the paper sack and he said it was just trash. He then tells me we are going to make another stop. This stop would be the RED LION where he threw that paper sack into the river. Now back to the original post: Then after that we went to a Motel just below the Vancouver Bridge where he tossed something in the river - but this package was already in the car - I thought it was trash - I went to the restroom and when I returned he had already discarded this bag. Note, the trash can was empty at the site. The ONLY time I have been to Tena's bar was when the TV crew took me there in 2000 (this date should be 2001)--I refused to get on the beach and act like I was looking for money - because when we got there I was ADAMANT that this WAS not the PLACE he took me to IN 1979. I walked away from the Crew and Himmelsbach back to the cars...I was crying and wanted to be alone. I was not going to pretend this was the area Duane took me to in 1979. (This post was edited by skyjack71 on Jan 21, 2008, 4:07 PM) ===================== P.S. Does any of this clarify what I was talking about? I just didn't understand what was being referenced in the post Safecracking made...I believe my story has been pretty consistent. Duane was shifty in turning me around and I often wondered if I had the right location. If anyone knows were that Green Tank was in 1979 and that dock then I can be positive I have it right. It would be great to see old pictures of the river banks in 1979 - to confirm I did indeed get the locations correct. That first stop with the steep incline down to the river - there were 2 gravel or dirt roads to the North and a railroad track. If I was at the right place in 2001 - it seemed tighter and not as spacey but there were 4 new house there on the river...so I took this into account and the maturity of the trees as this had been pointed out on the Washougal locations. We (myself and the people helping me) did not go to the more eastward location the woman told me about on the river and in retrospect I should have done so - just to be sure I could not see the PDX from that location and that it would have stayed slightly out of our viewing point. I just felt so relieved that I had finally found part of the trip, but wanted to get along and find the other places. Had I not have found those places I would have returned to FL and probably have had a breakdown - because it would have left me doubting my sanity. That trip to WA was critical because Jerry kept saying the places DID NOT EXIST. Thank God that TV program took me to WA.and that an ANGEL was looking after me. If the Cooper world chooses to think of me as deranged or crazy - then so be it. When I refer to ANGELS - I am referring to people just like you and I - but someone who just happens to be there when you most desperately need them. With the exception of a few I feel I fight this battle alone and that is defeating...but, I have not yet given up hope although I am very tired of the struggle. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I have threatened many times to mail pictures and copies of other things to both Tina and Florence, but do not have addresses I am positive belongs to them ( I had one for Tina in the past). I also refused to force anything on Tina in that manner, because she seemed so tramatized by the ordeal...I have alway hope this would finally be solved without having to do this. She did respond to a letter I sent her - asking permission to send some photos. She called me, but Cook told me it was someone pretending to be Tina and that if he couldn't get to Tina that no one could do so. Later he finally believed that I actually did talk to Tina. He told me recently she has move, but doesn't have an address. This was about a yr or 18 months ago. He said NO one talks to Tina, but believe that I actually did It was in this brief conversation that she said "He was a sad man" and to let it go. This conversation has been stated publically and in emails after it happened. (I would have to go to the files to find the exact date). When the FBI made documents available in the FOIA - it quotes her stating this same thing (note the FOIA documents had NOT been released when she called me). It was not until the FIOA documents release that I actually believed I was talking to Tina yrs ago. When I read that statement in the site - there was NO doubt it was Tina and Cook knew with that release it was Tina, I had talked. Cook was keeping tabs on me for yrs, but we talked and were mortal enemies. When I told him about Tina he said NO WAY. He has since refuted that statement after the FIOA public releases...we finally became friend after that...but, he actually took parts of his story from our conversations. I will NEVER forgive him about the fingerprint story. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I have never talked to FLO - I have always wanted to. Everyone know that my hearts desire is to meet with Florence and Tina. Everyone also knows I want this meeting to show them somethings and some photos I have not reveal in this forum or anyone and to ask some question. It has always been my contentions that a visit with the 2 of them will bring this to an end. If I could be granted ONE WISH before I die it will be to meet with both of them behind closed doors. If what is said behind those closed doors is reveal - that would be their decision...I could die in peace. I have stated many times that Florence did not agree with the composites - even the one a TV program did for her - because I know TV programs use what they want to use. I know she strongly disagreed with the first composite (Bing Crosby look-alike) and the second one (the Ben Gazzara look). You do KNOW that the composite artist spent a lot of time with them and he could never ever portray something never mentioned to the FBI. These girls became more relaxed with the artist - later and without the pressure of the FBI questions. How do I know this? In 2000 Doug Pasternac spent almost 2 hours with the artist who did the composites. They talked about a specific thing regarding the mouth - the artist was unable to depict this except in the composites that remained hidden from the world until the last 4 yrs. I understand why they didn't use these composites, but if he had put that mouth on the Gazzara composites and IF the FBI had ever mentioned this specific feature - Cooper would have been behind bars. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Strike two on this guy's story. Judges have no power to grant pardons. 377 See what I mean - then my gut was right. Where were you back then? I spent a lot of time and money communicating with this guy - hoping that something just might POP. There are some other Cooper "searchers" who have been "Snowed" by this guy also. He contacted Gray and I am not sure about Cook. I am sure Cook being an attorney he just brushed him off. I guess I should contact Gray and let him know what you just posted - He asked me about the man's story and I told him what I thought and the judge and pardon thing just finished it off. It is like icing on a cake - yummy! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I still search for that "ghost" of a picture - it is imbedded in my mind - I will never forget it. I contact the historians - and nothing - but I have never given up that one day - maybe...just maybe I will find it. If this one thing has you searching can you imagine what it does to me. I will tell you the yr it was on the computer was in early 2000. The subjects I researched at that time were firejumping, firefighters, prisons, parachutes - because that was my mind-set at that time and I do have emails (hard copies) of my telling Doug about it. I also told him on the phone - then when we went looking it was gone...I was unable to print a hard copy because my printer screwed up. Maybe I need a Ghost Buster. I didn't know at that time how to save searches or sites. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

The FBI has no power to grant pardons. 377 I was just capping his story out and didn't think anyone would be interested. Doug Pasternac and Himmelsbach are fully aware of this man. He said he went before a Judge who granted him a full pardon and indicated this was for his statements about Duane to the FBI. I would have to find the emails and phone call notes - I have been trying to separate them by subject instead of the chronologically order, but that is an endless job. As I said - there were lots of reasons for discounting his story and I did ask the FBI about his claiming he had a full pardon for his testimony. The agent did not answer me or discuss this man..only that they were aware of him. Parts of this were on a computer that crashed (2003) but I have the hard copies of it...I haven't heard from him in a long time - and what he has sent me since that time are just general things not related to Cooper. In my last Cooper related contact with him he said couldn't discuss it anymore...and I let him be...this was shortly after his "pardon". Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

"In addition, the phone call was made from his house. We also checked that out. In addition, I ran his photo past Flo and she said it wasn't him" Orange wasn't that quote made by the same man who later took Mayfield on - I forgot his name? This man and his buddy actually got Mayfield to go on a local radio or tv talk show. Later everything got quiet about Mayfield and the Gossett and Christainsen thing took front page in Cooper World. You do know that DBCoopercatcher from the Unsolved Mysteries thread and the man you are talking about are (I think) one and the same. This man like Cook kept jumping around on suspects. It was around this time that Cook started contacting me - at one time I thought Cook was DBCoopercatacher, but if he was he really dumbed down for a cover. There is NO way I can find the thing you guys do - I don't know what kind of search things you use - keywords don't help me at all. All I have is my 70 yr old mind and it is having a hard time keeping up with all of the stories I have read and heard. A very good reason for sticking to the truth as close as you can. I get caught up in the theories, but always go back to what I do know. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I have over 12 feet of documents - closer to 15 ft. You are the one who claims you have proof Duane was NOT Cooper. I have dates and documents. Copies of letters to Himmelsbach and emails since 2000 to the FBI. You are the one who Claims YOU have proof Duane was NOT Cooper. You claim the FBI records prove Duane was NOT Cooper, so why do you care what I have? You forgot that Himmelsbach advise me in the beginning to keep records - until 2000 it is journaled notes and date planners of those I spoke to and the cause of the contact. After 2000 there are lots of emails. Perhaps you should ask - Sluggo what I have - and he only got to see a very small portion of what I have in 12 hrs. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Yes of course. The first coloured contacts it was very easy to make light eyes appear darker. It was more difficult to make dark eyes appear light, I think that only began to be successfully (realistically) done later in the 70s or even the early 80s. Edited to add - I see you were questioning whether coloured contacts were available then. Perhaps you should read what other people post sometimes, more than one post has found ...EVIDENCE!!! ... that they were already commercially available by then. I read all of the posts, but do not have the search ablilities some of you do to go back and find them - easier to test your memory - I remembered the conversations, but even then I didn't think they were widely available. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Are you positive that Colored Contacts that could make Blue eyes appear dark brown or black where availabe in 1971. I was unaware of this, but only wore contacts for a short period to time around 1982. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Jo, Have you forgotten? You claim to have proof that Duane was Cooper. Show it. Prove that Jerry is wrong. We are all waiting. Teases, dodges and excuses is all we have seen so far. Put your cards on the table. 377 Nothing I have will ever be accepted as proof - but, written off as just more co-incidences. The co-incidences are facts related to Duane and his history and what is known about the Hijacking and Cooper. I have accepted the fact - that I won't be around if it ever is. Since 1996 - I have tried to find the answers - and yes, I still blame the FBI for not doing enough in those first few yrs. I am NOT at liberty to tell any more of what has been uncovered...because as I said we are waiting verification. Seems like the source is slow to reveal anything, but we are still following this trail. If you guys are anxious - THINK about what I must be feeling sitting here and waiting. A friend of mine asked he how I could be so patient. My answer was "I have had 14 yrs of waiting so what is a few more weeks". I will repeat that the FBI will just chalk it up to more co-incidences and that will be the end of it. This forum will be told what it is and the results when I get it. You guys then can decide for yourselves - co-incidence or proof. I would put my bet on co-incidence. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

All I did was ask Jerry why he kept telling me that the FBI said Duane was with Family on that Thanksgiving - what family? I will note he says "you got all the information that you have from me and book's". What Really Happend - Gunther HA HA HA by D.B. Cooper Norjax by Himmelsbach D.B.Cooper Dead or Alive by Tosaw Those are the only 4 Cooper book I have read. What information did I get from Jerry? NONE absolutely Nothing. I think he finally sent me a map - outside of that he has been a hinderance - because if I had been talking to someone else they might have identified the areas I spent over 3 yrs trying describing to him. Jerry said nothing like that existed and yet it was right there the whole time. I took Himmelsbach's word that Jerry was the ground man and knew the area but, I give a female truck driver a very brief description and she directs me right to the places - there is something very wrong with this picture. I got it a long time ago and why I did not talk to Jerry except for ONE time after I returned from Wa in 2001 until he came to this forum. I tried to past it off as miscommunication, but it appears to be much more. It boils down to motives - and I have no motive other than to find the truth. Yes, it makes me angry to be told the FBI had information that proves Duane was not Cooper - wouldn't you be ANGRY if you spent 14 yrs of your life searching for answers and someone supposedly gave you certain information? If I was looking for the things Jerry accuses me of - I certainly wouldn't be here in this wonderful forum seeking help - perhaps I should have just jumped on the BOOK and MOVIE deals that came my way early on - I had the opportunities to sign multiple contracts - but I needed more information - I wanted to know the truth. What did I find in my search - lots of warm generous people, but there were a lot of vultures and guys jumping on the bandwagon. Emotionally I climbed a lot of mountains and slid down a lot of gulley and got all muddy, but then there was always that small glimer of hope that maybe this was it. What makes me different from others who claimed to know who Cooper was. A confession, things he told me, places he took me, things I held in my hands and all I have are my memories and that maybe all I will have in the end, but there was no other goal. Yes the temptation to take the offers and let them throw something together was there - but, my own pricipals kept me from doing that. I had to do it my way - the right way or not at all. This has been a costly trip - financially, emotionally and physically - but I do not regret it. If anyone of you think that I like living like this you have another guess coming. I don't think any of you really understand what happened to my life after I found out who "DAN COOPER' was and you don't know me or my background. If I was into this for the things Jerry and a very few others have said - I wouldn't be in this forum searching for the truth - I could be sitting in a nice retirement home and doing a lot of traveling with the proceeds from all those book and movie options I turned down...if they didn't end up on the cutting room floor. All because I wanted REAL answers and not some made up story that doesn't resemble the truth. At this point there is NOTHING to gain - except knowing the truth - regardess of who Cooper was. Duane's old friend told me - the highjacking will never be solved and no one will never know the truth. He wants me to take what is left of my life and walk away because the search for that truth has destroyed me and made a very old lady out of me. A lot of people have made a lot of money off of Cooper - the ones who where looing for Fame and money are the ones writing the books. Cooks book will be a one time thing if he is only writing about Gossett. Not sure about Grey - he has been quiet lately - may have bit off more than he can chew, but I am sure he will put out a fairly decent book because of the take he has on it. I believe it will be exploratory and a pretty fair prepresentation of all of the suspects - I also expect his book to be investigative in nature, even though he was the one who did the article on Christainsen. Regardless - if I am still alive I will read both books and if one of them has a chance to hit a best seller list - I would bank on Grey. Ever seeing something written or produce regarding my story - probably not. In 2038 maybe...but there won't be anyone to keep it truthful because there is no one who will carry the torch and no one in 2038 will care about who Cooper really was. It will just be The Only Unsolved Hijacking and if Duane's friend is right - that is how history will remember it. The proof could be layed on a table in front of the FBI, but they will just say - he stole it from someone else - after all he was a thief. Among all of the suspects Weber is the only one who fits and the only one with all of the mounting co-incidences. Note I said mounting co-incidences which will be what they will classify what we have been working on. Duane's friend told me tonight that when he was in the service he had to wear a chute, but he never had to use it. Cooper got lucky and survived, but was never able to spend his money. Guess I will have to find that grinning photo and post it...because it has been on my mind constantly since I spoke with his old friend. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I do not believe the following post started a series of explanations and me having to defend a memory. ====================== The post about the door AH Yes! That fits with my memory, but was that DOOR ever used to for passengers entry or exit on the ground? I want to say we entered and exited at that door, but looking at the picture that would seem strange considering it doesn't seem to be that large a plane and the aft stair exit would have been more feasible. Our trip to the Islands I believe was in 1987 and therefore maybe the bottom aft stair way had been sealed off and the plane we were on may have had special 1st class VIP passengers using the front door. This trip to the Islands is when he explained how the stairway worked in detail. He did tell me this exit was used for deliveries - I asumed food carts and cleaning services. I can't remember the name of the Island, we landed on, and don't have a map of that area. We had to take a puddle jumper that was a bucket of bolts to St. Martins - scariest plane I have ever been on in my life...I was terrified until we got on the ground in St.Thomas ,but we had a better plane on our return trip to the bigger island. Some of the group took side trips to St. Croix. Our luggage had been lost and we were without clothes until about a half an hour before the Banquet. Someone had loaned me a dress but shoes to fit me were NOT to be found AAAA so I was going barefoot. We didn't have time to have our things pressed and where late getting down to the Awards banquet, but it had already been relayed to the group we were on our way with our own clothes. Since someone posted a picture of the aft stair door - my mind has that all mixed up now,...the image I had in my memory didn't exactly match the picture that was posted way back when. I am sure different airlines had revamps over the yrs. because of the fabric covering on that wall and the door of the plane we were on to St. Croix (since I keep mentioning St. Croix maybe that is where the 727 flew into). Because of the lost luggage, the trip of my life was pretty miserable as I had flown out in a suit as was the custom in those days. Can you even imagine going on site seeing trips in suits (both of us)...and the clothes on the island were terribly expensive. Because we didn't have a change of clothes was why we didn't go with the group to shop and play on another island. If someone had 4 or 5 different views of the wheel from 727's I would be able to pick out the closest to my memory. The woven fabric was of a rich dark golden tan color on that rear panel, makes me think this plane in 1987 had been revamped and it seemed more appointed than another 727 I took to Ky...in the 90's. Duane and I flew out of Denver to Atlanta in 1977 - 1980, but I don't know what kind of plane it was. This is the flight he hid for a great deal of the time in the bathroom until the 1st class stewardess closed the curtain. On this trip whatever plane we were on we definitely sat on the right side of the plane. On that trip to Atlanta - he was hiding from a stewardess he said was an old girlfriend. I kept trying to get a glimps of her and that is all I got - but she sure looked like the pictures I have seen since of Florence Shaffner without the extreme hairdo's. This woman had shoulder length hair, but not touching the shoulders if I remember - my hair was longer and thicker than hers and the color (if it was real) had a slight auburn cast to it but still classified as brunett. When Duane finally came back to his seat he changed seats with me so he was facing the wing and window - he kept a magazine in front of him. This was odd - because he was usually looking all around him at things - not behind a magazine. As soon as the stewardesses started to serve the drinks - he told me what to order him and again he stayed in that bathroom forever. He told me she was an old girlfriend and he didn't want anything to do with her (that DID NOT sound like the Duane I knew and then spent 14 more yrs with after that). When we got off of the plane. We had to have walked right past the stewardess I would think...I will note that I was looking for her so I could get a better look at her and do not remember seeing her. Duane seemed visibly nervous and when we got to Atlanta - he immediately got very DRUNK, and made a complete ass out of himself with my friend in Atlanta...she poured a drink on him. We were flying Frontier. I even remember what I was wearing on the plane. A plaid flaired skirt in hues of wine with a wine long sleeved blouse with an off white crocheted vest or a green suede flared skirt with a green plaid blouse with that same crocheted vest. I believe I wore the Green outfit because it was more comfortable....and I had on dress boots to just below the knee. If I go to my pictures I can give you more details on the dates...because of some fragmented memory here I feel compelled to do this tonight if I feel like doing it...this is the same time we met with the Mystery man in Altanta and who Duane had a very private conversation with behind CLOSED doors - a man with whom he should not have had any reason to be speaking with. I came back to add to this - I wonder what kind of plane we were on in the trip from Denver to Atlanta...because he didn't say anything about the stairway on this flight. The aft stair was not mentioned until the 1987 flight from Miami to the Islands. Since we were living in Virgina at that time and I had family in Fl - we drove to Miami and stayed there one night after getting back - this is when he took me to the Fontane Blue - this is when he got drunk and fell off of the yacht cutting himself on the coral in the canal. This trip is making more and more sense right now, because he was reliving old memories...and they had put the Shunt in his arm to make sure he would be ready for diaylsis which he didn't need until 1990. My life must be coming full circle because of the recent stress that has been imposed on me by things unrelated to Cooper. My memory is more clear today than it has been in a long time - suddenly things are pulling together - I couldn't remember how or why we were in Miami until this post. The things he told me at the Fontane Blue - what he talked about. That he actually saw a couple of people he knew and briefly introduced me to them, but not until he had gone over and spoke to them privately. OMG. The memories are pouring all over the place right now....sorry got to go ....crying. I know this post is all out of order, but I have to get these memories down in print before they are gone. =================== The next post I made included more memories but having to defend my right to state memories at the same time The memories where there and have been recorded - what I had not remembered recalling was how or when I was at the Fontaine Blue - What I remembered was that...and what transpired that evening. Going back to things I wrote before I had a computer - yes, I had written about the Fountain Blue, but had just forgot it - that is what happens when you tell something for 14 yrs - that one evening didn't seem very important in the beginning, but for some reason it does now. I had put these memories on tapes back in the very beginning and those tapes are old and fragil and I am afraid to play them - infact I don't have anything to play them on anymore - micro cassettes. As I have said before I have never FABRICATED any part of this story and would appreciate it if you would STOP YOUR accusations. They are my memories and I have NO reason to fabricate anything because NONE of it proves Duane was Cooper. It is an accounting of my life with him and if you are intimidated by my recounting these things, dates, times, places, things said, etc then you are the one with the problem or someone with something to hide. I am hiding very little because the more I tell the more likely it is the thing we have all searched for just might lie in one of these trips or in something Duane said. It will be something that might not mean one hell-of-beans to me, but might be the one thing someone else or someone reading what I have said might recognize - or place some significance on. I am sure you where not at the Fontaine Blue and definitely not on the yacht we went out on later. What I would like to know is who the 2 men were Duane spent some private time with earlier that evening...both were older than Duane and Duane did ask the bartender if a certain person was there. The bartender pointed over in a certain area - we were sitting on the side of the bar to the Canal and dock - so I could watch the yachts pull up. The area Duane went to talk to this person was on the very far side and he told me to stay in my seat and not to come over. I could only get a glimpse of the men Duane was talking to and then they went someplace I could not see them - one did glance my way - I am assuming because he told them his wife was with him. I never knew how Duane would know someone there and why the bartender would know who this person was and why they took their conversation out of sight and I think out of the room. I have tried to remember the name Duane asked the Bartender for - it was one first name or nickname. ===================== Now I will add a new memory about that same night. I had been waiting for a long time and decided I needed to find the ladies room. I asked the bartender where my husband was - and he told me they went to a back room. This means the man Duane was with had to be connected to the Lounge. I have been searching for old records today about the history of the hotel and the connecting lounge, but found NOTHING but "stuff" about the new facility. I realize this is of NO interest to you guys, but hoping someone will read this and could help me find this information. I am looking for records of 1987 for the Lounge that was on the Canal side of the Hotel. There was more than one lounge in the Hotel or connected to the Hotel. Remodeling was going on when we were there - I even remember a barricade thing and Duane asking someone up front and outside a question. I had the name and address of the people we went out on the yacht with for a long time and then yrs later redoing an address book did away with it. Duane knew this woman from the past. She was older than me and heavy set with short dyed blonde hair. She was known by several of the people there. I remembered this evening very specifically - because Duane got very drunk and fell off the Boat at a house near the canal - he had really bad barnacle cuts on his foot and she drove us back to our motel. We had walked to the lounge from where we were staying. This was one of very few times that I saw Duane fall down drunk...when the kidneys are failing that is EASY to do. That was the last time I ever saw him drunk....by changing his life style he added 7 yrs to his life. He did try to have a few drinks between 1987 and 1988 - but after we moved to FL and as the disease progressed alcholol became toxic to him. He never stopped wanting to drink, but even a sip from my glass made him sick. He was never a mean drunk - like his friend told me to night - Duane used that grin of his and it was very effective. I have one picture with that grin, but never felt it important enough to scan. Now I finished what I was trying to do before I got caught up in other things. You don't need to reply in the forum - a PM will do just fine. Thank you all for your tolerance...but my world is limited and this is the only way I have of communicating with others to obtain information from the past about certain subjects. Maybe I am hoping that someday after I am gone the truth will come out and you guys will say "She told us that - damn he really was Cooper". Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Jo, Have you forgotten? You claim to have proof that Duane was Cooper. Show it. Prove that Jerry is wrong. We are all waiting. Teases, dodges and excuses is all we have seen so far. Put your cards on the table. 377 Galen Cook and Geoffry Gray are not telling all - and you want me to do what others have done - state what has NOT been verified. NO WAY. When it is verified then I will tell you in the mean time I sit on my hands and at the same time trying to chew my fingernails. Get the picture? Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Prove it Jo. Show us the evidence you claim to have. It is a simple request. Your credibility suffers greatly when you make a big claim, promise to reveal proof and then offer endless excuses why you can't do it. If you could actually prove Duane was Cooper then Jerry's tactics and confrontations shouldn't matter one bit to you. 377 Face it if the FBI has what Jerry is claiming - this would have been over yrs ago. Now who sounds crazy. As for Proof - we are working on something, but as I have said - even the ticket will not prove who Cooper was. We are waiting verification... By the way - I got a nice email from Galen Cook. Geoffry Gray is very busy with his book also. Looks like a race - first one to publish sells more books. No I am not doing a book. No I am not a writer. There are some other writers hiding out with their stuff also. When I went public in 2000 the heads started to roll and then suddenly there were all of these other Coopers, Don't you know the FBI was wishing it would go away? Don't you expect if they had something as simple as what Jerry was claiming that they could have use it to shut me up. Geeze I was going to not post and here I am...I was just going to ride off into the sunset with my head hanging down. Now tell me something? Who is blowing their own credibility here? I can only apply logic to the things he has allegated. Doesn't he know I would love seeing proof Duane was not Cooper? Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

1971 Tax Records: Have that and nothing of interest. Employers: Talk to all - one of these flew me to Ft.Lauderdale to talk to with me and his attorney. Residence: I have those Accident Reports: His wife drives her car into a building near the airport. I believe it was the Admiral Benbow. The two separated right after that - so she said. If either had been arrested and in jailed, the FBI would have told me he was in jail. Doug Pasternak and I communicated recently, If he knew anything detrimental to me he would have spoke up. In fact, I will call him tomorrow and find out if there is any truth to what you are saying. I think you are blowing SMOKE. He is a kind and compassionate man and would never have hidden anything from me. He would never have allowed me to suffer - he would have told me I was duped or that he had info that proved Duane was not Cooper. If the FBI had this info - they would have revealed this pronto. Why would they waste tax dollars on DNA if they had info that was conclusive Duane could not have done the crime? If you could discredit me with this info, you would have done it long ago. As for Duane's criminal record - as you know all I have is what Doug obtained - and the FBI never provided me with anything. You already know that a polygraph is not valid after this period of time and that I offered to do one from get go. By the way - Duane only had stepchildren living with him during that time. This has been discussed on several occassions. One is decease and the other was only 10. If you have information I should or you think I am aware of then any reasonable person would have shared that by now. Why throw all the other things out you have if you had something so simple as what you have stated in you post. Wouldn't Agent Carr have also have posted his any record he might have had to dispell me? You are not making any sense at all to me right now - I think you stepped over a cliff. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I just got off the phone with the friend in Atlanta and he did not tell you the things you claim. He said it will always be he said, she said and that you have your own reasons for the things you say. He did tell me that I know and he knows exactly how Duane would have reacted when they gave him the money. No one will ever forget the mischievous little grin Duane had and we know Duane would have made that jump even if the odds of his survival where small. That was just how Duane did things. He said someday we would see Duane and the first thing he would say was "You devil you really pulled it off didn't you?" He thought you were going to call him and if you kept your records you know the number has not changed. He said nothing he says or I say will ever change things. Nothing you ever say will change anything either. You have your own reasons for what you do and what you say. This just echoed what I have said in the past. You are the one who will answer for your own actions. He had guest and I am cryingso I am hanging up right now, because all of this is killing me. For some reason when I write about Duane's past relations and the things he and I did and his unusual connections to what seemed to me to be connected to the underworld, CIA or JMWave these trigger your out-rage toward me. You will never prove who Cooper was and you know it,,but, I know who he really was and you cannot handle that. Goodnight to all and I hope that someday all of you know what I know and have known for 14 yrs. Duane was Cooper and even if I put him in a chute, it will not prove to anyone he was Cooper. Even the airline ticket would not prove he was Cooper. The Hijack of a 727 on the 24th of November 1971 will forever be UNSOLVED. On that cold and rainy night victory was his, Cooper (Duane Weber) survived to fight his own demons and become the man he REALLY was . End of Story. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

How come Georgers posts are the only ones that look normal on the screen. Everyone else is spread all to Hell. Attention JERRY I am calling the friend and as you know we have talked and continue to be friends. He is upset about your intentions to make his phone number public on the internet. He thought you were FBI. He and I never discussed a book - I did have lots of people contact me and one of them (a man did a querry letter that was no where near the truth and we went our own separate ways). I did NOT engage in this again after that. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

You didn't answer the question. Just your usual retorical reply. Someday the truth will be known, not just to me but anyone who else who cares. Again Thanks for calling me a liar for the umpteen time. Not one word is a lie and you KNOW it. You use prisoner of war tactics on me - I am not a prisoner of war and if you have NOT searched for the article on the boat? You never offered me any proof of what you said about the family member and ditto for the FBI. If the source (this family member) is not identified then it is a rumor. If I discredit myself by posting those things I do know and at times in the past exploring the possibilities - pro and con other involvements. I try to let people know if I am just exploring a subject - and therefore in recent months have made sure I state that "this is what I thought" or simply stating "I don't know, but I think maybe". When I tell things about Duane such as the Miami Fl encounter and other things I remember about my life with Duane - they are just that - WHAT REALLY HAPPENED. I have made my life an open book hoping and praying that I find the answers to all of the mysterious things that happened and the things he told me and the places he took me. He had NO reason to lie to me and he went OUT OF HIS WAY not to lie to me - because he knew how I felt about LIES. He either evaded or made it sound like he was teasing...if it was something that I made a retort on he just CHANGED the subject and I didn't go there. Isn't that what YOU were trained to do. By the way I am not whining - I put these things out there to find people Duane might have known. N0 one has to believe he was Cooper - I just know where the research has taken me and the man that I knew - didn't lie on his death bed. If anyone of you choose to believe that the things I write or say are fiction - that is your choice....Himmelsbach was quoted in the 70's... saying something like - when the truth comes out it will be stranger than fiction. I couldn't lay my hands on the article just now - but, when I read it - I thought to myself - Well I'll be Damned... He knew someday the truth would be told and NO ONE would ever believe it. This was before Duane made his confession to me. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Note Jerry has been saying this for yrs - about a family member claiming Duane was with them on Thankgiving and his claiming I know Duane was not Cooper. Are you saying I am not entitled to know who this person was and if it this information actually exists? We are talking about when they initially recieved the information about Duane as a suspect in 1996 and 1997. Jimmney Christmas - you got to be kidding. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber