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Prior to 1977 Tina was married and this provided her with a degree of protection. 1979 - I believe this witness tactic did happen and why Tina "supposedly" joined a convent in 1980. The authorities felt this was the only way to protect her after an incident at her residence. Prior to 1979 something Tina did became a matter of public record. Someone very close to Cooper who worked with a Credit Card company contacted him about this and her change of address. I believe there was an incident at the location Tina lived prior to "going" to a convent. The above maybe fiction, a senario based on facts or did a little bird tell me this many yrs ago. Perhaps from my own investigation of others I interviewed more throughly than the FBI did...maybe a little story told to me by another party to cleanse the soul. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Below is Georger's Post to the Media Mongers:

Loved your post - This is the SOURCE the "guys" writing books need to pursue - NOT the crew. It makes perfect sense that NWA had a say over the media contacts of the crew. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Gullible, Meme, subtext or satire. You guys have me putting my FACE in my PALMS and Wondering what the Hell do we do when OUR Moderator and one of the Elite posters gets caught up in a Web of Words and their meanings. Are you two Bored? You have me sitting here looking at the screen with my face in my palms - wondering - Damn, Where do we go next? I don't know about you guys, but I am going to do something be sides sit here in front of this computer and expect this case to get solve. It is time to do some things I have put off. Hell the world already thinks I am this delusional old woman claiming her husband was D.B. Cooper - and sitting at her keyboard actually thinking the FBI has time or motivation to dig up this old case and actually solve it. Maybe I can provide some motivation? Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Hello 377: The D.B. Cooper investigation remains open and has not been solved. Accordingly, the FBI does not have definitive proof that Paul Quade was NOT the skyjacker D.B. Cooper. Mr. Quade's involvement with DC 9 jumping at Perris Valley has not escaped our attention, nor has his curious assignment as mediator of what we consider to be a primary source of credible leads and evidence, the dropzone.com DB Cooper forum. Your understanding that “the Bureau’s official position is that he was not the guy” is incorrect; no one has been officially ruled out unless and until the case is solved. There are other individuals currently believed to be more viable suspects, such as Ted Braden, but no one has been officially ruled out, not even Duane Weber. Regards, Larry Special Agent L. Carr FBI, Seattle TDY Wash. DC SAC Project Norjack

Puzzling. Any explanation for his choice of things to shoplift? Classic Duane though, couldnt even shoplift Kool Aid without being detected. What are the odds he could pull off Norjack? 377

I will only repeat the post done by Safecrack in 2007. With the garbage being spewed around in this thread now, I believe I have something better to do tonight. 377:

Really? Duane? Tell me ONE person who has been inspired by Duane Weber's alleged turnaround. What proof have you that he changed his evil thieving conning ways? I know you loved him Jo, but Duane is hardly a candidate for beatification or even admiration. Time for some tough love and a reality check. 377 You know you are taking that as a stand alone statement - be fair and put in the light it was meant to be. I am not a writer nor am I very good with the words. What I am trying to say is that Duane spent most of his early life in one prison after another. Was he just BAD to the bone or was there no alternatives other than working as a migratory farm worker or digging ditches? When someone has a record - even today getting the job and being able to keep it are not the best. Few jobs are available to the ex-cons where they are able to "shine". Most of the jobs are roofing, construction, plumbing, etc. Contractor jobs - require a background check in most states. An ex-con cannot be licensed to sell insurance or real estate or be an accountant or a banker. Duane had to lie and deceive and watch his back - he was a good salesman, but he was forever looking back and afraid he would be found out. The insurance licensing he acquired in multiple states was acquired illegally. Despite this he was successful in the industry. Can you even imagine what he could have done with his abilities had he not have been looking over his shoulder every time he made a sale or met someone that might turn him in? This was why he moved around so much. If there had been a program in place that would have allowed him to have "legally" have acquired his licenses - don't you think things would and could have been very different early on? If such a program had been in effect when he was released from San Quentin - what could he have done with his life? What could he have become? Legally there was NO way for him to succeed except as a laborer, so he slipped in the back door of the insurance industry. With the opportunity to legally have been an insurance agent in 1957 (with supervision and support) after his release from San Quentin...what do you think he could have done with his life? He exceeded his own expectations, but forever looking over his shoulder and always afraid it would be pulled out from under him if he was found out. This is what I am trying to tell you guys. If you still don't understand I do NOT know how to explain it to you. After I learn of the immense criminal record Duane Weber had in 1998 (even then the FBI did NOT reveal it in its entirety) and as much as I despise deception and thieves and con-artists - in retrospect I am amazed at what he did with his life. I want to see other lives changed the way his life was. He was a human being who felt like he was a failure in the eyes of all who loved him. Yes, he was a dirty rotten criminal - but there was a part of him that managed to survive his past...and he was loved by all who knew him. I hated him for the deceit for a long time after I found out from the FBI what he had been and where he had been...but, I have stepped beyond that. NO, I do NOT want his criminal record down played and NO he was not a HERO or Robin Hood, but I look at what changes in the sytem could do for others that have followed in his tracks. Yes, I think he is a good example of WHAT could be. Do you really think I am proud to have been married to Cooper? I want to do something that will mean others who desire to put their pasts behind them can do so without committing another crime. Why Not? You take something bad and make something good out of it. If the lives of others can be changed by what Duane Weber was and what he did - then so be it. It sometimes takes reverse psychology to get the attention of wayward young men and get them interested in really changing their lives. Too many of them end up just being re-incarcerated because the system does NOT usually work the way it is structured. How many of your clients are re-offenders? How many of them are actually given the opportunity to creat a clean slate for their lives? What kind of work is available to the sometimes very sharp and intelligent offenders? Now be fair and do not take what I say out of context. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Okay - where is the aft stair door, all I see is the forward stair door. The 727 on the Nov. 1971 flight had 2 doors plus the aft stairway - OR am I completely wrong on this. Was the second aft side door added after they sealed off the lower Aft with the Cooper Vane...or are those modified 727's. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

In the 1970's I did fly and I was a smoker. I honestly do not remember if we were required to seat in the Aft compartments, but I always sat there because it was "cheaper". Are you sure that is NOT the description I made of a bag I told Himmelsbach about which was in the possession of Duane Weber. I do NOT recall the size of the bag Cooper carried on being discussed other than ON the forums. I know that over the yrs it went from being called a sachel to a brief case...I had asked Himmelsbach about this and I don't remember the answer he gave me - but, it is all in my notes from 1996. Dark Brown shoes - very dark rich brown...my description of a pair of ankle shoes/boots Duane had that had a zipper on them. A pair I finally got him to get rid of because he never wore them. Since they were some kind of expensive grained leather I assumed that was why he wanted to keep them. Speaking of Shirley MacLaine - I only recently disposed of her book Out On A Limb. Kooky kind of woman with a kooky twist on life back in the days...she was the beginning of an era. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I will repeat - Blevins is NOT a reason for my doing anything because if he does as I told him - the FBI will tell him that Kenny Christiansen WAS NOT Cooper...I know this for a fact. I was not by any mean looking for something to debate, nor am I offering any excuses... I am simply explaining that I am TOO tired to continue and that I am unable to continue. NO one was an excuse for not writing a book - Do you really think I had the ability to WRITE a book?. ALL I have ever wanted was the truth - now out of necessity that will have to be in the hands of others - but, I won't be around to read it....nor to get the facts correct and to get the things about Duane correct. That is why I have hung in here for so long - so someone can get it right. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I said I didn't want any debates; The answers to all of your questions are in the 2 threads. I will say this - Why would he not have called himself Dan Cooooper? Because that is the name he used when he bought the ticket. I just came back to add this after I actually read you post rather than just the end and felt id deserved an answer. Blevin you said:

I made some minor changes, and I would like to clean it up just a little bit more - and then it is all done and said. This was posted in the OLD thread that was closed, but I opened it up again and you guys will know why in the near futher. I just want to clean this summary up and perhaps add some details and address anything that may have been forgotten by Safecrack or myself... It is obvious the story has been relative consistent....and I am very tired.... I would like to insert Duane's financial and work records into this prior to our marriage. Also anything you guys can think of that might be important. No, I am not writing a book - more like a farewell or obituary. If you are going to make a negative response - just say NOTHING, please. I am having a really hard time right now emotionally with this. I spent the day making copies of all of the pictures - some I have used and some I haven't. March 27th is our anniversary - I married him 33 yrs ago. March 28 he will have been deceased for 16 yrs and it is time to say good-bye. In 2003 on March 27th the FBI picked up his DNA and on Mar 28th 2008 they returned the DNA. I don't think this March 2011 will be a good time for me - and if the truth is ever know it will come too late for me....to do what has to be done. I tried to tell his story and I have failed, but I gave it all I had. Duane Weber was successful in what he did with his life during his last 17 yrs on this earth. He may not have been perfect, but considering the background I have learned he had - he was very successful. In fact, regardless of what anyone wants to believe...after spending most of his adult life in several prisons, he is at the very least an inspiration to other troubled young men and excons around the world that they CAN change who and WHAT they are. Granted, in order for others to do this - some changes have to made in the laws to allow men and women who have made mistakes to erase those mistakes and to expunge their records so they can have the kind of life Duane had. They have to be trained and allowed to have jobs not normally accessible to ex-cons (such as insurances salesmen, real estate salemen, mtg brokers, bankers, accountants, teachers and even lawyers). The only way this will happen is to change the law so the ex-cons actually have a new and respectible life - not to be condemned to dig ditches and do manual labor. It had been my hope to create a foundation to accomplish this or at least get it started and I understand there are similar programs on a small scale scattered around - I am just not familiar with them. The purging of their past lives - has eluded most ex-cons. Perhaps Webers’ success in leaving his old life behind will encourage others to change their lives. It is the only good I can see to come out of all of this. Cooper's Law would have entitled certain qualifying excons to receive an education and work at jobs not available to them in today's society. Hopefully something called the Cooper Vane would have purged their old criminal files making sure they never had to "bail-out" again. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

On or about December of 2007 This was posted by Safecrack: I have not read through it, but the reason I am posting this is because I want to see HOW much of this has change in over 3 yrs of my posting. In fact I do not even know when I started to post in the DZ. I am going to put a emotioncon if I think it is something that has changed or may have been incorrect - please do not attack this as I am going to be putting Duane to rest very soon and I just want to get somethings straight for the record. Summary of Weber: VERY LONG I realize there are countless people out there with hundreds of theories regarding Cooper; who he was, whether he lived or not, and how he got away with it (or didn't). Since this thread was started by Skyjack71 to assist her of finding evidence that would help point to Duane or point away from Duane, I will start here. A similar effort could be made for all the top suspects and for yet unknown suspects, but in my opinion, Duane continues to be the strongest suspect for reasons outlined below. First, Duane actually confessed to the crime and confessed to being Dan Cooper. False confessions have happened and continue to happen everyday around the world, but they are generally coerced or an attempt to bring the confessor into some glory. Countless people made various confessions to the FBI about being Cooper. What separates Duane from almost all of these false confessors is that Duane waited until the very last moments of his life to make the confession, and he confessed only to his wife. He signed over his living will to his doctors, basically signing his own death certificate stating that he was to remain off of kidney treatments. He was expected to die within 5 days. Once the paper work was completed, the nurses left him alone with his wife. Skyjack71 didn't know who Dan Cooper was, but she can clearly remember the name because he pronounced it in a peculiar way. When she continued to challenge Duane on the confession (telling him that his story was non-sense), Duane cursed loudly. Having heard Duane getting upset and thinking he was having trouble dealing with his pain and the idea of his ultimate death, the nurses rushed in and immediately gave him a shot of morphine. No other top suspect that I'm aware of, has ever confessed to being Dan Cooper, and if they did, I highly doubt they would do it at such a serious time in their life. Facing your own death is not the time for fun and games! This is a very serious matter that I'd believe most people would find humbling and would want to speak their mind as honestly as possible. When I spoke to my grandfather for the last time, while he was on his deathbed, part of me knew it would be final time we’d ever speak. This was not a time for practical jokes or flippant behavior; this was a time to tell him that I loved him and to leave him with what could very well be my final words. Beginning with the confession, there's plenty of evidence to support the confession being real and not some prank that Duane decided to play on his wife just following the serious matter of handing over his living will to his doctors. 1. Skyjack71 witnessed Duane having an intense nightmare (1977) where Duane said "I left fingerprints on the aft stairs, I'm going to die, (loud scream)" I think most of us would remember witnessing our spouse having such a nightmare. She remembers asking him what aft stairs were and he said stairs from jail or something to that effect. 2. In Fall of 1979, Duane took Skyjack71 to the NW for a sentimental journey. This journey is chalk full of circumstantial evidence that supports his confession some 15 years later. First, he "had to do something" one morning while just outside of Portland. He left very early and came back several hours later all dirty. Second, he drove Skyjack71 to an area near LaCamas lake and actually said the words "that's where Cooper came out of the woods" and when Skyjack71 asked him how he would know, he replied "maybe I was the one on the ground". Later on that trip, Duane appeared to be looking for a tower and mentioned that he had buried something behind a shed at a tower nearby. Third, they stopped near the river for an extended period of time and he made Skyjack71 stay in the car. He took something out of the trunk and went into a wooded area down near the water. No one knows why and no one knows for how long. Fourth, they stopped by a hotel adjacent to the I-5 and Columbia river just before leaving. Duane had a paper sack with him that he claimed had trash in it. Within 5 months of this sentimental journey, Brian Ingram found four bundles of money close to the water's edge just downriver from each of these two points. While traveling in Seattle, Duane took an unnecessary detour, heading over to the Sea Tac airport. He drove around the airport and to the backside (west) of it. When questioned why they were doing this, Duane said it was a shortcut to a company function they attended. Skyjack71, pulling out the map, could see clearly that a detour into the SeaTac/Burien area is no shortcut to downtown Seattle. Throughout the entire trip to the Northwest, Duane never used a map. In fact, he continually pointed out odd points of interest, such as an out of sight dollar corner store that Skyjack71 was able to confirm 21 years later. 3. In Feb 1980 when the money was found, Skyjack71 was reading the newspaper article to Duane. Referring to the money that had been unearthed, Duane simply said, “it’s worthless.” 4. Shortly thereafter, a television special came out on DB Cooper and the money that had recently been found. Skyjack71 remarked to Duane that she was eager to watch the special, but as it turned out, something “came up” that night that prevented her from seeing it. Duane made arrangements for them to go out with another couple which was something they had never done on a week day. During the dinner conversation, Skyjack71 spoke to the other woman and commented on the fact that they never went out this way on weeknights. This is how she recollects the incident so well. It turned out that throughout their 17 year marriage, this would be the first and only time Duane made such dinner arrangements without consulting Skyjack71 first. Further, they never socialized with other couples unless it was through his work or was business related. 5. Shortly after the television special aired, Duane told Skyjack71 that his company was reducing his territory and assigning it to someone else. He promptly moved to Alabama, leaving his family behind for a few months. After Duane died, Skyjack71 discovered an old resume and a letter of resignation written to his boss in early 1980. The explanation he had stated to his boss in this letter of resignation was that he was resigning because Skyjack71 and her daughter wanted to “move back to the South.” This, of course, was patently false because Skyjack71 and her daughter (who was still in school at the time), loved living in the Colorado suburb of Fort Collins. Duane completely resigned from his company, moved to Alabama, and began working for a familiar company he had worked for previously. The new job was for a fledgling company trying to stay in business, and Duane was well aware that the company may not remain in business long. 6.In short, Duane had told Skyjack71 that his employer in Colorado was taking away his territory which turned out to be a lie. Duane had actually resigned even though he was making substantial money at the time. (mistake)6. In the 1960s, Duane worked for the insurance company that funded the Cooper ransom. The dollar amount on the insurance policy just so happened to be $200,000. 7. Skyjack71 can only recall Duane reading one book during their 17 year marriage. Duane bought a copy of Norjack and he sat in his favorite chair and read it cover to cover. Skyjack71 asked him what it was about and he said it was about a hijacking. Skyjack71 told him it sounded interesting and to let her read it when he was finished. He agreed, but then days later when Skyjack71 asked him about the book, he claimed someone from work borrowed it from him. The book was never seen again. What’s more is that in the following weeks after reading the book, Duane grew out his hair and took on a full mustache. 8. In 1990, Skyjack71 actually did see a book amongst Duane's possessions. It was during a brief separation due to his emotional stress of becoming dependent on kidney machines. This may have been a similar stress he would have felt in 1971 when he first was told he had kidney disease, a condition he’d seen his mother suffer through until her death. We did finally sort this out and do not believe the handwriting was Webers.Skyjack71 happened to notice a book in Duane’s trailer that he lived in during this time. 6 years later, she saw the book once again.... she had checked it out from the library. In some of the margins, she noticed Duane's handwritten notes. The book turned out to be about DB Cooper. Skyjack71 immediately called the FBI the night she read the first few pages of this book and learned for the first time about some of the details of the crime. 9. Discovery channel's Unsolved History did a story on the Cooper case. As part of their story, they took the 1972 composite sketch of Cooper and fed it into the FRS of a Vegas Casino. They added several pictures to the database, including a handful of the top suspects, such as McCoy and Duane, and then ran a search amongst the entire database against the composite sketch. Of everyone in the database and all the top suspects, Duane's photo came up as the top biometric match. 10. When Skyjack71 pursued Duane's ex-wife (whom he was married to at the time of the heist) regarding Cooper, his ex-wife was reticent. She told Skyjack71 to "leave the past behind". At no time did she ever deny the allegation that Duane was Cooper and she remained reticent about the topic. She was deliberate and adamant that they were separated from October 1971 until February 1972 and she did not have any contact with Duane during that time. His sister also wanted to leave the past in the past and the ex-wife seemed afraid to talk about the past. 11. Years later, this ex-wife was preparing to move into assisted living. With no prompting, she sent Skyjack71 some old original photos (not reprints) of Duane. Amongst the photos was one of the ex-wife and not Duane. It wasn’t as though the widow and the ex-wife had been close, and therefore this picture seemed a little out of place. As she examined this particular photo, it happened to have an unusual object in the foreground... some wrap around sunglasses. Why the ex-wife sent these pictures and also included this photo will always be a mystery as the ex-wife has since died. 12. This ex-wife had a daughter who once told Skyjack71, “I know that Duane was Cooper,” and made some type of elaboration that Skyjack71 has never mentioned. She says the FBI knows what was said because she had called them to interview this daughter who has since passed away. 13. At some point in 1990, Skyjack71 happened to come across a ticket stub of some kind with the SeaTac or Sea-Tac printed on it. It was sitting on his desk in his shop and she saw it there and thought it peculiar. 14. In 1994, Duane had broken his leg. The shop had been closed for years, and there were some boxes with tax information in it. Skyjack71 decided to clean and organize a box from 1990 that had been packed when they closed the shop and she did this despite Duane’s protest. She dumped out the box and began to sort the box from the 1990 tax year. She began throwing some items away and then filing others. One of the items she picked up was an old airline ticket from the year 1971. According to her memory, the ticket was a Portland to Seattle ticket. She remembered this because this was the year she had flown for the first time. Seeing the old ticket, she went to ask Duane about it, and he said that it used to mean something, “but now it doesn’t” and instructed her to throw it away. She then placed it in the garbage bag with all the other non-relevant papers and items she threw away from that box. Later on that day, he asked her what she did with the old ticket. She replied that she threw it away as per his instructions and that it was in a garbage bag in the garage. She then grabbed another old box out of his closet and he again told her not to sift through his things and that he would do it later. She left the second box alone. That night, she went out to the garage and sifted through the garbage bag and did not see the ticket. A few weeks later, Skyjack71 folded up Duane’s clothing and went to put away his socks and undergarments like she always did. This time, Duane told her not to and that he’d put them away himself. Ignoring his comments, she went to his drawer as she frequently did to put away his garments. Upon opening one of the drawers, she saw the old airline ticket lying in the drawer. At this point, she knew Duane well enough not to ask him about the ticket. 15. In the late fall of 1994, the same year as the above incidents, the Webers held a garage sale. Duane had gotten to the point where she had to drive him to and pick him up from dialysis. Amongst the items that would be sold were some false books; the kind that you could hide items in. When Skyjack71 went to pick up Duane from dialysis, there was a young woman who was helping her with the garage sale. The helper asked both of them what to do with one of these false books. Duane instructed her to put it aside and that he’d take care of it. Later that evening, Duane instructed Skyjack71 to retrieve the book for him and she was unable to find it. Many of the items for sale that day were old items from the shop that they had closed. Skyjack71 then called the helper and the helper told Skyjack71 there were old papers and such in the false book and claimed “it should be there.” A weakened Duane was so upset about the lost book that Skyjack71 felt it was important to search through the garage until late at night to find it. Duane finally told her that he would search for himself later on when he could muster the strength. Two years later, Skyjack71 contacted this helper, who may have suffered from addiction, and the helper claimed no recollection of the events or the false book. Skyjack71 happened to find this odd because this helper purposely came in and asked what to do with it and they contacted her later to ask her about it. Incidentally, the old ticket was never seen after 1994. It may or may not have been in the false book. 16. There was a second garage sale after Duane's death. One item was something Duane had kept in his desk. Skyjack71 had no idea what it was, but someone who visited the garage sale purchased it because he collected these sorts of things and told her that it was part of a parachute. 17. On Duane's deathbed, he instructed Skyjack71 to check his van and told her specifically what to check, but Skyjack71’s focus was to comfort him and really wasn’t listening to him. This was during his confession and she thought he was talking non-sense. Skyjack71 just told him she’d take care of it and not to worry. Skyjack71 wound up selling the van. Later, the new owner contacted Skyjack71 and gave her a wallet that only contained some peculiar identification. It was a military ID and some other ID of Duane's under various names. The returned wallet appeared to have held many more items at one time in its life. The purchasers of the van told Skyjack71 about the wallet on the phone there was a license and papers in it and when she arrived they told her they never opened it and could not comment on the contents. Skyjack71 maintains a belief that there may have been more items in the van, but cannot nor will not say for sure. It was by the new owner subsequently torn apart from top to bottom for “rebuilding purposes.” We did read earlier on this thread that the new owners began to fly every other weekend to south Florida right after purchasing the van. Whether or not this happened to be related to them purchasing the van, we’ll never know and at best could only speculate. They may have inherited money or won the state lottery or just enjoyed prosperous sales in their flea market endeavors… we do not know. 18. In 1990, around the same time that Skyjack71 saw the ticket stub with SeaTac printed on it, Skyjack71 and Duane were in his van. He left her in the van to go grab something out of the shop. On the console, Skyjack71 happened to notice a grayish money bag. From her recollection, it had printing on one side of it, but she did not pull the bag out of the console all the way because Duane was coming back to the van. This was a very trying time of their marriage (he was staying in the trailer) and she didn’t want to get him upset. Duane had been arrest when he attempted to obtain a fraudulent driver's license. Among his possessions was a new, or barely used, hand gun. In his paranoia, Duane blamed Skyjack71 for the arrest thinking she ratted him out. She actually saved him from more serious charges because her and his doctor pleaded with authorities and told them Duane only attempted this because of his illness. The real reason Duane attempted to obtain a fraudulent driver’s license is unknown. 19. In 1971/early 72, a Reno newspaper received a letter or note of some kind from someone claiming to be Cooper. There were several of these received by various news outlets at the time, but this one in Reno had been postmarked in a suburb of one of Duane's family member's. 20. According to his ex-wife, Duane was unaccounted for in the fall of 1971 through February of 1972. In February of 1972, Duane got back together with his wife. Further, his employer at the time was unaware of his whereabouts. In February of 1972, Duane returned to work and claimed he was injured when he fell out of a tree in his yard. He told them he had been trimming the tree. Skyjack71 later got the ex-wife to confess that there was no tree in their yard at the time. 21. Duane and his wife made very little money in 1972. Their tax return, however, shows that they claimed a significant portion of their income from selling things they already owned. From what I've heard, this wasn't filed on any capital gain or investment schedule. Do most people who hold a garage sale claim 25% of their income from items they sold around the house? Why was Duane and his wife so eager to claim income that could never be traced? 22. In June of 1972, according to the ex-wife’s daughter, Duane and the ex-wife had recently purchased two brand new cars. The daughter vividly remembered this because she helped her mother move to Kansas and she had the privilege of driving the new car. 23. Shortly before Duane passed away, in March of 1995, Skyjack71 was helping him get dressed since he was injured with a broken arm and several broken fingers. She was attempting to help him put on long johns when she asked him if he was ever going to disclose how he had hurt his leg. He didn’t have trouble with the leg, but due to scarring and/or deformity, it was apparent to Skyjack71 that he had once injured it fairly severely. She had asked him about it before but he never disclosed the cause of his injury. Duane’s response was that he had injured his leg jumping out of a plane once. Skyjack71 immediately laughed at his answer because she found it funny. Duane later reiterated this story during his confession. 24. At various points throughout their marriage, but only beginning in the very late 1980s, Duane would tell Skyjack71 that a famous invention was named after him. Time and time again, she'd say Weber grill. She even once made a sarcastic reply saying "Weber Bread". Every time she made one of her guesses, Duane just gave her a childlike grin and would say "you'll never know". We don't know of any invention named specifically after Duane Weber. We do know, however, that an invention was named after Dan Cooper, and it was called The Cooper Vane. 25. In 1987, Duane and Skyjack71 were on a commercial airliner in Miami. They were either boarding or exiting, and Duane pointed at a door with a wheel on it as they walked by. He mentioned to Skyjack71 that if a person were to turn that wheel that stairs would lower from the belly of the plane. 26. Skyjack71 just made a post about Duane serving time in McNeil prison. This prison is located in Tacoma. According to Ckret, Cooper stated that McCord "is only 20 minutes from Tacoma. It shouldn't take that long." I have included some photos of Duane along side some composite sketches of Cooper. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

It is eeriely quiet in here tonight! I have been trying to access the site for Petersen book and NOW I lost the site url. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I don't have a"dark" view of him just pointing out he is NOT helping himself with his actions or recent. I am not taking shots at him only mirroring exactly what others state in and off of this thread. In my defense - I AM NOT writing a book, nor have I put a book out on the shelves...I am posting to a forum...I am having a discussion with people who have the same interest I have and I contribute what information I can. When my information involves names and other people - I do have to be guarded in what I say here. I have also been a victim of he said, she said - so I try to make sure I have a valid reason for stepping on a boundary where other people are involved. When one has a personal investment in their research be it time, money or a personal conviction some things do have to remain private until the Deed is done and/or the assignment completed. That is odd: I just made an expression - that prior to coming to this thread I had only heard come out of the mouth of Duane Weber. "The Deed is Done". Is that just a common expression or does it orginate from - Geographics, Heritage, Military, CIA, FBI, Coverts, Thieves, Prisons or is use of the express just normal. (I have lived a sheltered life). Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Blevins Stated" Mr. Blevins if one is going to do a review - READING the book is required. You posted as a review and NOT an opinion or fact and have STATED YOUR SOURCE. I expect there many of us when YOUR book is made available will react in kind to your own disregard and disrespect for what is called a "review" regarding the efforts of other writers. Your desperation is apparent when you offer to send complimentary copies of the lastest revision to newpaper reporters! When they question all of your revisions you get your back up and refuse to make good on your offer. After reading what you say in this forum and what comes down thru the "grapevine" - you are destroying any credibility you may have had. You are sounding like a very desperate individual. This is not stated to sound ugly, but for you to stop and think about the persona you are projecting. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Jerry. I have already quoted the post I sent to the producer BEFORE I went to WA in 2001 explaining to her the places I described to you....YOU are the one who provided the names of the places - and because I didn't have a detailed map there was nothing I could do other than accept what you said. I at least had one productive day before leaving WA in 2001 because some locals stepped into help me. Do you remember claiming you contacted the undercover cop who was with me on that last day? You didn't. Do you remember saying there was no one with me? Do you remember saying I rented a car in 2001 and you could prove it? It might interest you to know that I spent 2 nights with those individuals while I was in WA. in Oct of 2010. I also found all, but one of the places I describe to you in 1996. I told you about them a few wks ago - and I even provide the names of some of the people. Unfortunately some are deceased now, but when I contacted you in 1996 several of the people were still alive. Your actions may have buried Cooper forever. You do know there is a complete chapter about JT (encase you don't know that is you, Jerry Thomas) in Nuttall's book? Do you really think NO ONE here knows this? If you read it and you are proud of it then you had to have been wearing Rose colored glasses while smoking some of that MJ, I challenge these "newcomers" to do some research by private email and Vickie went out and DID it. I challenged Jamie, but he did nothing, but make retorical comments we all knew could not be true. As for AL - I only found one part of his story to be true in the 11 yrs plus I talked to him - that Duane and his ex-wife were in MN for about 2 months. These are hard facts Jerry and these folk don't come here to hear you call me a liar and for me to defend myself. I don't have to No, I have not read all of the Cooper books, but I don't make reviews of books I have never read, Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

If the book “D.B. Cooper: The Real McCoy” is searched on Amazon, there is a single 2 star review that is quite interesting. (See attachment: Adventure Books Review) It looks like someone at Adventure Books of Seattle or perhaps a person posing as a person at the same, has taken it upon themselves to write a bad review about The Real McCoy. RobertMBlevins states he has not read any DB Cooper books so it could not be him as he is so honest. Someone needs to answer for this outrage and be soundly thrashed for such a blatant impropriety. An act which is best described as disingenuous. Ohhh that is BAD! - that does not stand the credibility test does it? He even tried to talk his way out of this one, but maybe he has enough pull to get this expunged from the site. How do you criticize a book you never read - I don't care what you say about it - good or bad - you have to READ the book to do a review and on top of that he has a competive book getting ready to go on the shelves....that is to say the least not only in bad taste is is TOTALLY wrong and probably unethical. Doesn't the Writers Guild have a Code of Ethics. Most organization do have a Code of Ethics. Even the lowly insurance salesman has rules and regulation. Real Estate has a Code of Ethics and a breach of those ethic can get your license taken away from you and/or a very stiff fine. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Jo Stated: ----------------- Blevins : "This is beginning to sound like an interview or something." Jo gets a good Laugh! ------------ Blevins: "Your question about why I post to DZ is a good one because I've asked myself that same question."

DUH!

After we suffer his long reading list he then states: When it comes to Cooper you READ EVERYTHING - fiction, trash and all of the other books published. What did your research into this subject consist of or why are you posting in the DZ? You aren't the 1st writer to come to this thread, but at least the other writers came here to learn more about their subject and not to promote their books You continued to post here because you needed the help of experts in this field. You thought you had your book all together only to discover there are people like the guys in this forum who ACTUALLY know what they are talking about. There are WHUFFO's like myself who are here just because of the subject matter - why this thread exists in the 1st place. Before you finish your "book" I suggest you read the book called THE SKYJACKER His flights of Fantasy by David G. Hubbard. In fact I suggest you read it before you put your "story" on the shelves. This book was written based on REAL interviews with multiple skyjackers. It should be required reading for anyone comptemplating writing a book about Cooper...Fact or Fiction. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Not the artist drawing on page # 77. It is a hand with a watch. Note the watch is on the Left hand. On Page 69 - this character sure looks like a comic character of a woman we have all seen in the Cooper stories. Thru out the book is a character by the name of Fucks - This is rather hilarious because one of the suspects worked for someone with that last name. The Tax consequences are all mentioned in this book. Dr. Arden Peterson is quoted as saying the hijacker "comes off as a kind of curious Robin Hood, taking from the rich - or at least the big and complex. It doesn't really matter whether he gives to the poor or not." It was the consensus in this chapter "Cooper accomplished what he wanted". Not only did he have the money, but public opinion was with him. He made "the cops look like the charlatans they can be and everyone loved it". Below - you will love this: Page 306 from HA HA HA by D.B. Cooper. By Signum Books Ltd. Editor Judi Van Cleave. Art Assistance and sketches by Greg Ellingson. I wandered into a pet shop, a separate concession within the department store. There was a cuddly spaniel puppy with big round eyes. He sat forlornly in a chicken wire cage. The dog was obviously lonely and loving; his eyes indicated his desire to be taken home with someone. Tail Waggin, eyes beggin, he looked at me as I approached. "Nice Puppy", I said. My Heart went out to him. Since I had been in a cage, I sympathized with anyone or anything that had to live in one. I wanted to take the puppy, but there wasn't even a home waiting for me let alone for a dog. Skipping some of it to get to the punch line - as he offers to pay for the dog more than the store is asking and then agrees to buy a yrs worth of food and the throws in an extra $10. Then he tells her he want her to do something for the extra 10. "Oh yeah?" she cocked her head knowingly, but still smiled a bit. Her eyes sparkled mischievously. "Yeah," I retorted, making a mock leer, "Seriously, I want you to watch, I mean really watch, and when the first kid comes in here wanting a puppy that you're sure can't afford it, I want you to give this on to him and the year's supply of food, too. The the puppy'll have a good home. The clerk is crying "It's okay, I want to do it. I want this puppy to have a loving home. Can you take care of it for me?" Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

In HA HA HA - the book Blevins claimes NO knowledge of, but the thread is proof he had this knowledge and knew the statement about the Capt. was erroneous. NOW, for a little bit of fun! How man of you have read HA HA HA? Those of you who have read this view the post I am attaching and the we can all HA HA HA.