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Quade, It's up to you! We have adults acting like 12 yr olds and it has gotten out of hand. Nothing seems to make them understand WHY we were given the privilege of being here in the 1st place and the battle you fought to allow the thread to be presented in History and Trivia. They are behaving in Bon Fire mode, because they do NOT understand or have knowledge of the original battle to place the thread in History and Trivia where civil conversations could take place regarding Cooper. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Well, Jerry is in to name calling and threats again. Just because he wants attention in WA. Look at what this man STOOPS to? Why, would I care about making myself vulnerable in my neighborhood. Jerry, if you wish to keep making a fool out of yourself making threats to invade the privacy of normal citizens and widows - to expose them to theft, ridicule or worse due to the crime rate you have stooped to about the lowest level any human could ever stoop.. What you have just said is criminal. This is NOT a place where my identity is hidden and I am fully exposed...but unlike you I do NOT want Publicity nor do I care about being seen on TV or otherwise. I have fought my battle in the privacy of my home and in my research and I should be respected for that - NOT put in harms way. What you have just stated is about as LOW as anyone ADULT person can stoop. I am sure others on this thread now understand exactly what you have put me through for 14 yrs of your harassment. Folk, this is mild to the threats he makes on the phone. Jerry will let NO one stand in his way and anyone who does try - is condemned to being called names. His only GOAL now is to shut down the thread.,,and to shut me up.

I chatted with her when she first came into the thread and have continued to do so over the entire time...so go stick it!I I also gave her the same advise everyone else did - about checking things out before sticking your neck out and she did exactly what everyone recommended. The girl has a head on her shoulder and she has done a good job. You - are a user or you would not have bounced upon her as you did. You did this when you felt LEFT out - regarding the TV program. You are a user and you ride on the leg work of others and the research they actually do themselves. You have never accomplished ANYTHING regarding Cooper on your own - Nothing! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I have been quiet, but you are the most HORRIBLE MAN I have ever known in my life. Number one everything about Duane's past I know has been stated before. I don't go and try to make connections - but if there is one I will link it. Remember Duane was born in OHIO. He lived in CA and his mother and father are buried there...he has a long CA history. He was in McNeil, San Quentin and Folsom. He was connected to the San Moreno Sanitarium and there is a name of a male nurse on a card he carried in his hidden wallet with the false ID. Duane was in Ks, Mn, Mo and OH and as both Duane Weber and John Collins. Duane was everywhere - how did one man manage to be so many places? By the way encase it interests anyone.... Duane and his wife of the times used other aliases - now stick that one in your shorts Mr. JT, which I hope have been soak in gasoline. I found it odd a wife who claimed she didn't know his name was Weber until 1968 would do this. Her father was in the Midwest during the yrs 1962 - 1969 - the same yrs Duane was in Mn, Oh, Mo and Ks. The CA connections is there and the others - YOU can't make those go away - they are what they are...they are part of Duane's past. I do NOT know of a connection other those stated above. There was a Melvin or Marvin in Duane's past. I am now also going to state something else for the record: Jerry Helms and Jack Anderson are part of Duane's past - and when you sit on that one - you will crap. It was 2000 when the FBI shut me down on the information trail...now I know why because Nuttall was keeping WA very busy with all of those letters. Then when Jack died the CIA wanted his files and tricked his wife - she thought they only wanted specific files - but they wanted them ALL. Why do you think the FBI didn't try to find the one person which would put Duane in WA. Ed Horan. I couldn't get past the privacy act even though the man is dead. All the FBI had to do was contact his emplioyer to get his records. They didn't have to - because he was part of all of this past of Duane's. Did you ever in your MJ haze think about HOW or WHY Duane was arrested in 1966 as John Collins and imprisoned as John Collins and commutated as John Collins when they knew he was Duane L. Weber. Do you have a screw ball ideal what was really going on or are you part of the cover-up with all of the Crap. Carr carried on and on about the master fingerprints and presented a set taken in 1944 - give me a break. Yet, they didn't catch this when he was arrested as John Collins - there is something very very wrong with this picture and you know it is...and so does the government. I have too much going on in my life to deal with the likes of you. You had stopped slamming me and slandering me and then with one line you have spoiled the best few days I have had in awhile. Has anyone got a MATCH! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Orange I used your reply because I am sick of the name Knoss and Jerry and the title that comes down in the replies. Today I went the grocery and purchased things for a very special meal. Crab, asparagus, etc. Things I do NOT usually purchase to prepare. This is a special day! Then I went to the post office to mail a package I prepared wks ago and have been carrying around for 2 wks using every excuse in the world NOT to mail it. Today - I start living what is left of my life...and as humbly as I have always lived it. Honest to the point I come across unkind sometimes. Perhaps there are those who would consider what I did today - throwing stones, but I did what should have been done in 1976 on or about May 24 when I called the FBI that first time. I put everything together in a written narrative and with a pictorial NEVER seen by anyone. With-in there is NOT one altered photo nor one written word that is not TRUE. I wish it could have been done professionally and not something an old woman did on her computer, but it is better than nothing. After I got back into my car, I actually said a Prayer with my head up and my hands up for the world to see. I did what I had to do...it was time. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

The Silence is Deafening! Yes, What else is there to say? Strange how things end so quickly - everything has a beginning and an ending. Suddenly eyes are wide open and minds are clear with only a few words mincing none. When the objective is simple and straight forward - you go forward. It is said that life becomes very clear when you stare death in the eye....perhaps when you know you have to draw on every mental moment you have - the picture becomes more focused. What physical energy you have you use to bring things to a close putting your house together. It is time to put my house in order...and I started right where it began - with Jerry Thomas. That man had done more to stymie the Cooper Hunt than anyone out there in the last 30 yrs. WHY? Because of Jerry and a lots of others just like him - the Cooper investigation got bogged down in rumors and wannabes. The truth became vague and forgotten. Facts got lost in the shuffle and everyone has tried to make finding Cooper impossible. Then when the REAL thing comes along - it is too unbelieveable, because he kept it KISS. And with a KISS Cooper just went on back to Georgia and lived his life. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Jerry Stated: Blevins I'm Sure you will be a no show. We both no why. It's time to admit that your storie is made up. You no I can prove it. Run or face the chalendge. Why do you want to run now. Still you were brave enough to chaledge others Galen, Jo, Nettall. But when I come on board you run. Guess your actions tells all.You made the first chalendge. Gallen and Jo. Why run Now. What are you scared of. Jerry At the risk of being banned I believe I am qualified to answer that question: You are a rude, abrasive and you should have been arrested for how you victimized me on the phone the night you called me liar over and over and over. Then and only then did I realize just how deranged you are. You treated me like I was a prisoner of WAR that had been captured and nothing I could say had any meaning other than what you wanted me to say. Remember all of the threats you made in this thread (they cannot be erased) when you said you had contacted the TV programs in my area and threatened me over and over and over. Had you have shown up at my home you would have been arrested. You cannot erase these - they are right here in this thread. Why would anyone want to bring a person on their program who is coersive and attacks others? If the TV program is interested in making this an objective presentation of Cooper - then it needs to be done without you.

Blevins Stated: Jerry...I'm going to recommend to Comcast that you not be invited onto the show. Go see your 'contacts' and complain about it. If they tell me you ARE going to be on the program, I will be a no-show. I don't do Springer stuff. Jo Stated: Blevins DITTO that for me also. Putting up with JT these past few yrs is ALL I can stand. He is the one who sabotaged my interview in WA in 2001. The got with the crew and told them where to take me - which was ALL the wrong places. This is why I didn't find the places until the crew left and some locals pitched in to help. 3 Women and an undercover whose life at that time depended on his being able to know when someone was lieing. Blevins Stated: If you're going to call Into The Blast a work of fiction, I give you the same response I give to everyone else. Prove it, or forever hold your peace. Jo Stated: Your book is not a work of fiction - it is narrative taken from your interviews and research and is valid as such. Blevins stated: I let Stephens see some of Jerry's latest postings here and I made a few comments. Jo stated: I am sure that Stephens would love to do a documentary in a very sutle way with a once thru of the subjects over the yrs. I just would like to have information on Weber up to date as it is today and not as it has been presented by the nay sayers who are unaware of what I have worked on the last few months. Things I should have presented from get go - but I was a novice with NO knowledge of Cooper and the things that have been brought forth since I last went public in 2002. My finally being able to present the things that I have found in the last few months are very important to me, but may NOT be important to anyone else. All of this presentation is visual and has to be done as that...with a narrative - that asks many of the question none of us have been able to resolve. I do want this ONE final say about Duane Weber versus Cooper without it being about ME or MY STORY, but unanswered Question and Some Explanations that have never happened. I think the public needs to know about these things - and then let the public decide if they are valid points or just more hype. Then I will rest my case. 377 would you like to represent me on this in the closing arguments as an objective observer? Leave it to the jury (the public to answer the WHY questions?) Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Well, Now lets see. Covert action in the 60's led to Mafia Connections which led to some information the authorities needed to know. Two insiders knew a journalist and told him what they knew in order to divert something they didn't want to happen. Maybe this is how Duane bought his Commutation. Since the 'group' didn't know his real name - he struck out to continued life on that one, but forever looking over his shoulder. Hell, he had made it for 6 yrs under an alias. Maybe that alias was provided by the authorities? He finds out he is has a disease and starts to feel bitterness about his life and in desperation - does the Cooper thing. He had the knowledge from his past actions under John Collins - so why not? Maybe he felt someone OWED him something when he snitched and that he had been offered no reward or retribution other than for John Collins to disappear. Desperate people do desperate things. No I am not desperate and I may or may not be making up the scenario above, but it is feasible. One has to wonder how and why Duane managed to disappear from 1962 till 1968! He and his "wife'' of the time even used at times her maiden name as their couples name. They changed names like they changed clothes - what the hell where they running from or to? Why were did they resided in multiply locations (all of which supported covert and mafia)? What where they involved in? There might have been some washing by the government, but tell me a time there has not been? Perhaps the goverment even KNEW who did the skyjacking, but circumstance might have blown the hatch off of something they preferred to keep quiet at that time and perhaps since. The USA has NOT always done things exactly right in both military and political activities from the past - and nothing is transparent. This will be speculated till the end of time, but I want only one answer. Who did I marry? Who was this man? Was he this horrible ex-con or was he actually a loyal misguided American trying to do the right thing? Why did he take that plane and why did he do what he did? Why did he leave messages behind and he did do that? What he left was a symbol of who he was and what he knew. Fear of death and anger - they take hold and you make your decisions and you stand by them. So what if you have failed at all you tried to do - and when you made your one contribution to society that you thought would "count" - you find you are just a dirt to be covered up?! Cooper went out of that Plane because he Could! He disappeared because he Could! WHY? Because no one would dare come after him! OKAY, Knoss how is that for a truth? Or is it just a fantasy and a story just to have something to say? Time to get some rest! Knoss will go on till the end of time - doing whatever he can to be sure he writes himself into this damn saga. He has contacted every journalist and ever writer and the co-pilot and others making their lives utter chaos. My claim about Duane Weber has been genuine - I have never claimed "inside" knowledge or to "know" much about Duane's past life but, I want explanations for actions taken by the FBI and others I have felt totally unnecessary. WHY? Again I borrow this from Nuttall, because it really makes my point. WHY lie unless you HAVE to COVER-UP SOMETHING? This means Secret service, CIA, Coverts, government, politicians, military - and every human on the face of the earth. White lies for the sake of NOT harming someone - are OK in my book, but that is the ONLY lie I condone. To tired to continue on this way. When Knoss stops posting then I will finish MY WISH LIST and then I am gone. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Knoss! YOU are SO FAR OFF: You are ASKING everyone to discard every piece of information they have on the flight path. NOT going to work, you are not a pilot. There is NO information at all that would assume the plane was WEST of vector 23 - NONE, IOTA! THere was another plane behind the skyjacked plane that was W of the Vector that landed in Portland. I have eyewitness accounts from 4 individuals - who put the skyjacked plane West of Cougar, East of Amboy and 2 directly over Heisson. Hell, I don't even know if these are in the VECTOR, as I never could get the maps to work on this. I just know what I know. I also know there was an old logging bridge East of Amboy and Cougar - which was taken out by a flood yrs ago and there were old logging spurs in that area. The co-pilot says they were EAST of the Vector and I have never heard him say WEST. You cannot pitch technical date and sitings. One witness I spoke to mentioned layered clouds and a low plane....he did NOT state he could see the plane - shadows perhaps and light from behind the clouds (there were 4 siting at that one place, but only 1 is alive) and he was in his 30's in 1971. -------------------------------- Knoss States: . Knoss! It WAS NOT SNOWING. Knoss States: THESE testimonies? Are they coming from voices in your head? P.S. I have tried NOT to hurt your feelings, but you leave me little choice. If you have a story to tell - do IT with the TRUTH and not with the VOICES. For 12 yrs you have told me you have WRITTEN files - I have yet, to see one file other than a bunch of pictures of old wrestlers and NO documentation about any claim you have made. I don't even have documentation Duane ever lived there other the the ex-wife stating they were there for about 6 wks...that is second hand information and information I could never verify. You supposedly told a writer something that could verify the existence of Weber and his wife living in the locality - WELL, a through search was made of newpapers and criminal files for that period of time and not one IOTA. I am sure you are going to reply - the papers where expunged as that is typical of how you have injected yourself. No emotioncon for SICK and TIRED - so these will just have to do! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Yes, you were over the top and this kind of action is why I would rather do my part of the interview in my own home with only photo aids and my explanations. I don't need exposure - and I don't want exposure - I just want to know the truth about the man I spent 17 yrs of my life with. I am not interested in tearing anyones subject apart nor their investigative means. I do not interview well. because I am submissive to others - why I was a good wife back in the day. I have LEARNED how to hold my own, but only in the written word. In person I would get very confused and combative if presented with a question I did not want to answer or someone became argumentive with me. My personality has gone through a great deal of change with all the stress I have experienced in the last 20 yrs...and 80% of this is age. As for Cook - he will do his thing when he is good and ready, rather than jump in the frying pan. He has had other suspects, but his passion for solving this crime matches my own - my passion is more because it is personal and NOT just solving the case. I don't think Cook, myself, Mr.S or Grey want to have to defend our subjects - but to present the subject. Let the public decide without any influence from anyone other than what the evidence presented shows. If Mr. Spencer Stephens from Comcast Sports, offered to go heavy on your book promotion in exchange for your appearance that sounds like a rigged deal - certainly does not sound like some one wanting to make an imparticial presentation. It was generous of you to present a more balanced show, but can you and Stephen really do that after what you have presented here in the email above? As for the evidence presented on any suspect - it will always be suspect. (Now that one is a play on words). There is NO conclusive evidence on any of the subjects and with Duane the most damning is only my word. We can't even get the FBI to give us a straight and solid background on the man. He was an elusive man who disappeared off the face of the earth from 1962 until 1968. Who and were was he and what was he doing - how did he stay hidden for 6 yrs? Everyone will agree that Cook's subject projection is thin but, you really have NO idea what he is dealing with right now. He wanted so badly to be the one to solve this case - and he has had a lot of set backs, but he is a logical person who when the truth flies at him - will come to the aid of another. There are times when you set out to prove one thing and what you prove is the opposite of what you were trying to do. This is the quandry that Cook faces right now...he will deal with this in his own way and in his own time. As individuals investigate suspects in this crime - you find overlaps that suggest more than what has been projected. If you are objective in your view of this crime and your suspect - it gets hard NOT to ignore the obvious, but you preserver. Since you and others turn a deaf ear to what I say as does the FBI - the obvious goes underwater. Your post reminded me that DUANE AWAYS carried those little RUBBER BOOTIES you put over your shoes - some that slipped on and others that buckled at the ankle. One can say your story on Kenney is thin ice - so be careful what you say - it can come back on to you. I frankly think Grey who did the orginal story on Kenny feels like he was duped. He has never said so, but then he probably plays the fleld with all of the investigators and tells them each the same thing...to get their co-operation for his own book. By the WAY - why didn't Grey do his book on Kenny? What did Grey discover during his own investigation that made him decide to go a different way? I know why, but then that will be revealed when his book comes out. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

17 yrs later and I cannot tell you what size shoes he wore - I can't believe I just forgot that. It came up the other day when a person (not to be identified) asked me about Duane's shoes. Strange you guys are NOW asking me the same question! When we got married Duane had several pairs of shoes. He had what I call ankle boots, because they kept snow out, but looked dressy when he had appointments. He had what I called a very dressy low cut ankle boot and the standard ankle dress boot. He also had very expensive western boots. Then there were loafers with and without tassels for dress. There was also the usual nice tie up shoes. Duane aways carried rubbers to protect his shoes - both slip overs and the ones that buckle at the ankle. Contrary to what Knoss said - Duane took pride in the way he looked and dressed. I NEVER ever SAW him with boots that were soiled or that laced up like jump boots. That was totally out of character for him, but he had in the past stated he had a pair of lace-up ankle boots. He wore Johnny Carson suits and Kojak suits along with other name brands. Middle class. One pair of shoes he owned when we got married was a very very expensive pair of shoes and this is what I was being quized about the other day. Name brands where thrown at me, but nothing sparked a memory. This individual was set on the shoe question (and why I wonder why you guys are bringing it up). I tried to describe them to him. They were a very very rich dark brown /black, but they had a grain in them. A find grain - finer than Alligator - I kept telling him lizard, but I never found a picture of men's llzard shoes from the 1968 to 1971 era. He kept throwing names of leathers at me - and I told him what it was NOT. They were not loafers and they were not what I call high ankle boots. These shoes I never saw him wear, but he would never let me throw them away....my brain won't let me remember anymore than that. Duane did own a pair of penny loafers - they were too casual looking. He liked shoes with a good shine on them. He never owned a pair of tennis shoes during our marrage. Duane wore suites in grey, charcoal grey, dark brown, Blue, burgundy wine, light blue and the typical blazer look. I never saw him wear a black suit...and he did not own one during our marriage. He had a large wardrobe of ties - and pitched a fit the last yr. he was alive when I was going thru the ties to discard...this was the same time he refused to let those shoes go out. He did let me get rid of a few thngs, but the rest went out when he died. He was a very good dresser and looked really sharp when we went out. He owned one pair of blue jeans and he liked to wear the dicky jumpers in the later yrs. after the went on the kidney machine - pants presented a problem when he was refinishing a piece of furniture or wanted to be comfortable sitting in the recliner for 5 hr at a time for dialysis. Also as the kidneys get larger just to pump away the fluid the stomach becomes very extended making pants with belts difficult to keep up. This was NOT true in the early yrs - only during the later yrs. He had so much pride in wearing dress clothes that he did end up buying suspenders so he did NOT look sloppy and worry about his pant slipping down. Still wonder why this QUESTION has come up on this thread and I was QUIZED a lot about this less than 3 wks ago. Makes one wonder what the H--- is going one right now. As for Knoss's remark - HOW or WHY would I know what Duane wore in 1967 - 1977? I didn't meet him until August of 1977. There was NO reason for the obtuse statement he made other than to be rude and argumentive and to be heard. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

This forum has become bullshit in its pure form. Shit Happens! And reading all of this I forgot what I came to post? Must not have been important - not at all. I am almost speachless and that is really unusual. Only blushing because I can't remember what I had to say. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Robert Blevins stated: Robert Blevins: Perhaps you Snowed me and/or I am misjudging, but your post was childish and yes, it was AWFUL and it is a PROBLEM! Your post was horrid - it reveals a side of you that is bolsterous and rude and confronting. I do not believe that is what the TV program is looking for. Why sit and argue about suspects. Each one quietly presents their subject and if this is to be a free for all attack on the other subjects - just leave me OUT. The kind or program you are suggesting above is a "Call Me Out" thing that I find completely disgusting. If this is what you want to turn the program into - leave me OUT. Galen and I both can sit down and talk about our subjects without attacking each other - why can't you be the same. I haven't heard you attack Grey? Talk of SHREDDING the theory of another is NOT a person I want to be around...or do a program with. If this program is not on the UP and UP in this way - then NO WAY. I want NO part of that kind of program - they are disgusting...and they are NOT productive....they are Jerry Springer things! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

It may not be feasible due to my present condition to fly or be in WA. but, what I have offered is for them to do a brief showing with the "new" stuff that I have accumulated. I will not be the focus - I do NOT want to be. This will be a display of pictures with specific details and explanations. Not some of the OLD stuff everyone has seen before. This group of photos will take to task the most ardent Cooper searcher with information that can be VERIFIED. I have asked NOT to be shown or made visible - I like the fact that my face has faded from the story. They can use an early picture of Duane and I, but this IS NOT about me - IT is about JUSTICE & TRUTH (whatever that might turn out to be). I will give a vocal - but choose they afterward use another Vocal over my voice - using my wording. The only reason I agree is that this will be the LAST time I will have a chance to show what I have found. I am not an organzied person and because what I have presented in the past was not in order and with full explanations. I will NOT be re-hashing past statements nor answering questions. Simply show WHAT I can. The only part I will require if they use some of the young pictures and history of DUANE - to see if there is ANYONE out there in the areas Duane 'PLayed' who might remember this man. I may reveal for the first time a old tape of Duane's voice. I did not see the value of it because his voice was so raspy because of a procedure he had just had done, but since the raspy voice came up again in one of the witness description I thought I would dig it out and see what could be extracted that might take the anger out of the message he left on the phone in 1990. There is a lot on that tape that would have to be censored, so I do NOT know if it is useable. I do NOT want to take anyone else's thunder. I frankly do NOT think Blevins is now into this for his own profit. He has gotten as caught up in the search as has everyone else. Even if his book flopped after the show - the show in itself might produce something that would still say - You Did IT! What he and the show are doing is actually a fair thing and we all know that Blevins only wrote the book and this thread has convinced him that Christiansen might not be Cooper. He is just a writer and he did his job. I believe that if the show resulted in a SOLID lead into the past of any "suspect" it will be a MAJOR break through. I believe this is MY LAST CHANCE to be heard, but hopefully in a way I have NEVER been heard before. I swore I would never go public again - and I am trying to do it in a way that will not impact my life and to leave me with the peace of mind - I did try and I did do what I could...to prove the t hings Duane told me. I would be appreciative of any suggestiong this forum might have of one lines that I might need to include in order to make this a fast quick and thorough view of Weber. I do not think the early "stuff" needs to be repeated in the terms it has been. The DNA needs to NOT be mentioned until the FBI can PROVE the tie belonged and was worn by Cooper. They have not in the past been able to do this and this story has been resounding ever since that plane hit the ground in Reno. That tie did NOT show up for almost 5 hours after the plane landed and could have been placed there by anyone on any leg of that trip or by one of the workers who cleaned the plane or aided in the search. So I need a BRIEF list of what needs to be mentioned by me as far as the past enquires made on WEBER...then the finally is up to me for WEBER. This is the venue I suggested to Blevins because it would not steal his thunder, but get my last message out to the public. After that is done - I will have done all I can do. The best I may hope for is that someone might remember him and maybe I can find out what my husband's past was in WA, OR and ID. This will be a vet or a old man or woman sitting in a nursing home watching TV. Maybe someone who bought one of the establishments Duane used to frequent - will have some OLD pictures - archived and buried. Whatever the results are - all I want is a fair and accurate accounting - of WEBER and without any slurs toward me or him. An OBJECTIVE look at a suspect I feel got pushed aside because of things that should not have been and poor investigative ablitities. Then when they did try to do something - it was 6 yrs too late. There were things going on in WA in 1999 that caused Weber to be ignored and for a period of time NO suspects where brought forward to be investigated...then about 4 yrs ago - all hell let loose. NO Sluggo this is NOT the "SAME OLD STUFF' you saw. And if you ahd done what Blevins did on the past of Christians. You were NOT able to investigate the wife in CA and the step-daughter (the only story we have is what I told). The FBI really screwed up in CA. Too many rookies chasing a suspect across the country without full comprehensive backgrounds on the subject and too much unaccounted for. There were multiple individiuals the FBI did NOT even call or investigate. They never talked to the people I told them about - they didn't even try to find Wong, Gun, Griffin, Thomas and Fucks....and they DID not attempt to find Horan (this was a key person in Duane's past). Through employement records they had this at their access but never touched it. The privacy act prevented me from learning of his past. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I am going to retract my post of last night regarding Tuttall's Book. Which is why I came into the thread so early this morning. 1st things 1st: Read Knoss's "story" about my auto accident and this created a major gastric problem keeping my coffee down? Truely hope the post I made about "his story" about my accident gets the point across to him and others.

After we discussed your accident I inquired as to any intentional involvement by anyone involved with Norjak. The results were negative, it was just a simple accident type accident, not intentional, although nobody was upset. You probably were at fault and did not stop when you should have? Two women drivers. Two women in a Bronco... with a 'cow catcher'.... driver's side impact... Gotta be just a high probability coincidence. They didn't back up and hit you a second time. Race car drivers from Georgia......... PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND TO ANYTHING I POST. What you posted was so far from the truth it is pathetic. Number ONE I was NOT hit from the back. Number TWO I was at a full stop. WHY go on and on? You are what you are - and this is getting RIDICULOUS. Also it was not a Bronco. It did have a thing on the front of it that hunters use. That is the only thing you got right. This is exactly WHY I do NOT believe anything YOU tell! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Jo, This borders on paranoia. If someone wanted you dead there are far more reliable and less traceable means to accomplish it. There have been staged accidents, but they are insurance scams, not hits. You may have been the victim of such a scam. There was a ring busted in LA in the 80s that did this numerous times using several cars to force an innocent driver into colliding with one of the scammers' cars. A sharp Highway Patrol officer figured it out. Were you listed as being at fault in the police report? Which is more likely: 1. Jo was actually at fault. 2. The accident was staged to make it appear that Jo was at fault? 3. Jo wasn't at fault but it appeared that she was with no staging involved? Why not scan the police report, post it here and after doing that show us where it is in error? If it was actually staged my money is on insurance scam not a botched mafia hit. 377 I no longer have the report and I took the blame - as I had never had an accident before...I just accepted it, but was NOT parnoid about it. Just something that should NOT have happened when it did and how it did. Reading Nuttall's book was reason for me to revisit my feelings about the accident... but I do not and did not dwell on it. I will admit to having a FLASH Back after reading Nuttall's book. The injuries from that accident still plague me and will for the rest of my life. Just as the injuries from the co-pilots accident will plague him. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Just to finish Nuttalls book and understand why Duane did NOT get investigated properly. When the FBI was supposed to be investigating Duane L. Weber the government was being bombarded about Mafia and Cover-ups. Perhaps the goverment really did ignore Duane or he would have been investigated a little differently had Nuttall's own investigation had not already been put in place in 1994. Note all the dates on all of those letters to the goverment organization. Who would properly investigate a subject that just might swing in that direction - not saying Weber did understand you, but there was reason to put Weber on the back burner, but time just made him go away...and for any evidence to just become jaded by the media. I expect this is WHY neither Doug Pasternak, myself and others making enquiries on my behalf where NOT able to get into the Mo. records and why they will forever be kept a secret now....the FBI refused until the mother files had been destroyed and all there was is what was available online. No Jefferson photos now exist...No detail duty records now exist and to include visitations. Why certain names I provided to the FBI were NEVER investigated. I could not provide the names in the media because I feared retailation by doing so. What if they were NOT or were NOT what I thought and had been told they were? What position would have this put me in? If I could believe Mafia was involved it would explain the accident I had in 2000 (an accident that I later believed to have been staged). Had I not have have been a cautious driver and have hesitated I would have died and if I had survied I was told I would have wished I wasn't alive. 4 inches saved my life, but left me with injuries I suffer from today - but the accident was made to look like I caused it. My making a hesitation is all that saved my life...the women who hit me disappeared after they recieved their money...That accident was NO accident and I said that then and I say it now. My attorney who had been a friend wanted me to take them to task because he knew how I drove and that was defensive.I didn't want to make waves because of my dealing with the FBI...and did NOT realize how lasting and permanent my injuries would be. I thought I was invincible. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Several of the entries for the suspects, including Christiansen, have been changed recently. Let me be clear here: I touch nothing on that page at Wiki except for the entry on Christiansen. Yesterday, I changed a few of the small facts this editor had modified on KC's entry. For example, he said 'KC had $400,000 in the bank when he died'. I corrected it to the real figures, which are $186,000 in savings, and $21,501 in checking. And I cleaned up some of the Shemya history that this editor got wrong. The entry on KC had also been shortened somewhat. I left that alone, since it was too long anyway. Usually, when the notice at Wiki is up on an article saying 'this article is currently undergoing a major reconstruction,' this means a registered user at Wiki is working on the article. If you make changes to anything on the page, put some explanation why you did in that little box at the end. Otherwise, the Wiki person will just change it back. Exactly WHY I never go there - it is people just trying to act important and anyone can get in to it and change the information. I gave up on that one yrs ago. I have absolutely no idea what they have on the site about Duane Weber and don't care! It is nothing more than a bunch of kids and writers and researchers more interested in seeing if they can out do the other ones. Recognize WIKI for what it it really is - it is NOT the new encylopedia. It is a tabloid. Think about all of the individuals who get pissed on on this thread - individuals savy enough to target the Wiki, but I won't name names. Definitely NOT me! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

It is NOT over until the FAT man Sings. I spoke with George Nuttall tonight, but I was not feeling to well. Since I have been reading his book and regarding some conversations he and I had yrs ago. I knew at that time little about Duane's past and all of the big time Mafia names just were not part of my vocabulary and still are not. He was dead on in his profile when he said Cooper was a very desperate man making a very desperate action. Also I found something in his book I find a surprise in the profiling. The proposed that Cooper chose the Mother of Pearl because it was the birthston for June. Duane's birthday was June 28, 1924. Dan was a code name in the Mafia, but it may also have been a message for Duane's family. That he was going to die with honor and NOT in prison...a sick way of looking at it, but he thought he was a failure and could never succeed at anything, until he actually survived and then he knew nothing was impossible and it changed his life, but he spent that life looking over his shoulder. I did not get the meaning of Cooper when Nuttall explained it to me as he was rushing and I was not feeling at all well. Some of the print is so small I am using a magnifying glass to read it with it. Was the Cooper reason for the name in the book or is this just something Nuttall told me today? What does Cooper mean in the Mafia. Since I was not feeling good anc could hardly talk - and Nuttall had someone picking him up the conversation had to end. He still thinks that Cooper died that night, but were is the evidence. He and I had talked many many yrs ago, when the article appeared in the Oregonian in 2001 and I just more or less let it go and so did he. We still do not agree, but I did tell him I was enjoying the book and he had cited the many things I found in my search about the mis-reporting of different things. He is man who you need to have a guide line infront of you and the facts. As all of you know I am getting old and my memory is starting to fail me...but I would love to walk thru his book and talk about all of the comparables. Things that Tosaw said versus what Himmelsbach said and the absence of reports. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Orange, where did you find that piece of art. I have seen some work just like that. A man I used to date had some of his son"s art work in his home. He was a scream - I thought the art work was ghastly and a scream also. Exactly how I feel right now and why my postings will basically be on MY Wishes to be remembered or not remembered. It is all I can do at this time...just repeat a chronological of the past and then let it go...hoping beyond all hope that one day the truth will be known. At this point I could tell the story till the end of eternity and it will make no difference...land so if I feel like it to night I will continue my WISH list and when I have come full circle it is over....and then it is The End. All I can hope for by doing the Wish List is that someone will finally see the story as it played out and then it will die with me, just as it should have died with Duane in 1995. Hope the Wish List does not bore anyone too much. Just taking it one day at a time and the sequence of events as they come around - one last time, but hopefully in an order so that others can see and understand why I believe Duane Weber was Dan Cooper. Will try to add to the Wish List tonight. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Rataczak goes on to say that he has little feeling below his upper legs, but he can walk, 'and that's the important thing.' (his words) Himmelsbach who told me that both Bill and his wife where hospital cases...and that he had seen Bill just a short time ago. This was told to me in the last 3 wks. I wonder why Himmelsbach told me this? Did Himmelsbach misinterpert Bill's health situation because the accident left him with some handicaps? Somewhere along the line - I was told that both Bill and his wife were terminal? This would be by a 3rd party who might have something to gain by telling me that.......to confuse and defuse. I am beginning to see this as a game with some of the Cooper writers. What is their reason to do this? Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

It will take me several days to do this WISH LIST, but it is time to start it and I hope I can finish what I start. Perhaps this should be composed OFF LINE, but I have learn that by being spontaneous I do a better job than trying to Compose something: JO'S WISH LIST I wish that on August 25, 1977 I had not met Duane L. Weber. I wish that when I put him on that plane around Thanksgiving of 1977 to California (a trip I wanted him to make because I felt was still in love with the ex-wife) that he had NOT returned. I wish I could remember the woman and her daughter who came to my home because they had some business to take care of. This was the wife of someone Duane knew who lived in WA., but I did not know if this was WA.DC or WA State. I wish I could remember who the Race Car driver whose home we went to and attended a large Cook Out in Clay Co, Georgia. I wish I had not made the move of faith I made when I left my job in Atlanta, Ga to move to Colorado with a man I bearly knew with my 15 yr old daughter I wish I had not married him on March 27, 1978. I wish he had NOT had that nightmare during the 6 months we spent in Denver - when he screamed out "I left my prints on the Aft Stairs" "I'm going to die!" And then a blood curdling scream. I wish he had NOT explained away the "Aft Stairs" as part of a jail. I knew nothing about jails, but he told me he got in some trouble with a couple of guys and they broke into a home and they stole some firearms. Another party was involved, but they chose to NOT involve her. I wish the trip to Rock Springs, WY had not ever occurred when he made his trip to Lander, WY to see an old friend - the week of the white out. I wish I had knew Nothing of Paperlegs and why the man's name came up several times in our marriage. I wish I had never made the trip to UT, OR and WA with Duane around the last week of Sept 1979 or the 1st week of Oct to a managers meeting with Family Life Insurance of Seattle, WA. I wish he had NOT taken the detours he did - such as Salt Lake City where he looked up a man who was working out of the Vistors Center on the ground of the Mormon Church and I wish I could remember the name of that man who he arranged for me to take a picture of. Duane didn't want the man to see him. I wish he had not told me about. all of the places we passed on our route to WA before we got to Oregon, such as Lewiston, Moscow, Pullman, Palouse, Coeur'd Alene, Hayden and Spokane. I wish he had never mentioned Bitterroot Range and Missoula and the Kootnai Indians. I wish he had not told me he could never return there because he got in trouble in the area. I understand this only if his being in that area connected him to another identity and a past unknown to me and others. I wish he had not told me about a Dam up in the Mountains where he and the Guys worked and the Bar in Goldendale they went to. I wish he had Not told me about The Dalles and the Old Spillaway Tavern where I now know he worked as a dishwasher. I wish I knew why the John Day Dam was so important to him. I wish I knew what WALLA WALLA meant to him. Why did he have Dusty tattooed on his arm? I wish I knew how he knew were very small airport was located from Walla Walla to Seattle, WA. I wish I knew where and what he did in Yakima and Toppenish - he spoke fondly of an Indian reservation...and the dismantling of airplanes. I wish I knew why he knew all about the black jumpers out of Pendleton and the guys in Hood River. I wish I knew more about the people he knew in Rufus and Biggs - Mattie Findley and Harvey Hansen. I wish I knew how he knew so much about OR and WA. Such as Crook County and the John Day in that area. I wish I knew how and why he told me about a small town near Redmond - a place in Prineville the guys used to go to. All of this is near Bend, OR. I wish I knew how he knew so much about OR and the Greenhorn and Heppener and why everything seems to center around smiles and what seemed to be good memories. I wish I knew who he knew in Maupin and Wasco...where did he go for those 5 1/2 hours on that fall morning in 1979 as I slept in at the motel East of The Dalles area, but below the dam. I wish I knew how a man who supposedly never worked or lived (per the FBI) in WA and OR knew all of these things and these people and the places...he knew the names of the counties. My wish list shall have to continue another day if I feel like it and I have the opportunity to finish my mission. After I finish the Wish list - I will have to leave you, because I can no longer continue this battle. Please excuse all of the I's but I know no other way to tell this. I will tell you that all of this leads up to one FINAL wish - and that is NOT to prove Duane Weber was Cooper, but you will have to bear with me thur my journey...to know what this ONE FINAL WISH IS. I will try to make this journey as systematically as possible because maybe the problem has been that I have always jumped around in my memories. The trip to WA in 2010 helped me to sort out the sequences, but I didn't find all of the answers. I will continue this another day as I feel I can...but, 2 of my wishes are that I wish I had never heard of Jerry Thomas or Bob Knoss...they have been a pure waste of my time on this earth and in my search for the truth. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber