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That was a GOOD post Blevins and the very first time I can say you did the RIGHT thing. You called it they way if should have been called. I was trying to protect Tina and her family and you let Bruce have it in a way I could never have done. I do NOT agree with anyone showing up with pics of their suspect - that would be obtuse and brutal...even I have NEVER sent Tina pictures of Duane, but I agree Bruce handled this ALL wrong. He has put a fence up between the media and the family they won't take down now. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Yes, just as I have known Tina's location for yr - I sat on it to protect her. When I found out Grey was exposing her location in the book - and that others have been camping out at her location taking pictures and spying on her - I felt responsible for this girl. My daughter is only 10 yrs younger. All the yrs I kept her location out of the media was made futile by one book writer. Perhaps I thought NO one will bother her after all of these yrs. I placed more than one phone call to let individuals know that Tina might need some assistance...to protect her privacy. Two were simply short messages asking the other party to offer assistance to her (they know her). After Blevins received his harassing phone calls - my warning were NOT out of place because I worried about her privacy and how she would handle public exposure after all of these yrs of a relative quiet life. The other one was to the FBI making them aware of the phone calls to Blevins and the fact that Tina's location had been made public by a writer. Several days later more and more kept happening so I decided to contact the sister and let her know what had happened regarding a writer making Tina's location public. I felt someone needed to be there for Tina and wanted a family member to be aware of what was going on. I also wanted to assure them that I was NOT the one who was responsible for this. I let them know I knew Tina was a private person and why I did NOT impose myself on her or show up on her door. That I understood that she had little memory of the incident and what it has done to her life. It was short conversation and I didn't keep her on the phone long - just to ask her to be there for her sister and that I have tried to keep people away from her door - because I could tell from her voice the one time I spoke to her that she was fragil and chose to protect and do NO harm (I didn't use those words but that was the consensus of the call I made). I do not understand why according to Bruce, Tina's bother-in-law and sister would say. "I can't help you and Tina". Why can't you reach out to help family. Perhaps Bruce was meaning to write Jo - but I didn't ask for help. I asked them to be there for Tina and felt she might need a refuge in the event the media ended up parked infront of her house. Considering the calls made to Blevins I do NOT feel I stepped out of place by warning them of what was to come. I would do it again and if necessary would put myself between Tina and harm. Now, Bruce has stepped up possible harm to the Tina and her family . The journalists and writers out here have absolutely NO respect for the privacy of the victim or the families. Bruce even publicized the location of the family members. How sensitive is that? First Grey and now Bruce Smith. They should both be ashamed of themselves and should be held responsible for allowing disclosure that would jeopardize the privacy of private individuals who have been witnesses to a major crime. To me it is endangerment of life - not just privacy. Bruce Smith and Jeffrey Grey have pushed the jounalistic and writers rights to the limit and frankly I hope the family takes action against both of you. This world is full of crackpots who want to make a name for themselves and my call was simply to let specific affected individuals to know what has happened so they would be prepared...for what is happening or in the offing.. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Blevins - you are on that one again? Give it up - it proves nothing just like my thinking Duane buried something with the dog. To have torn out the things that Duane fixed would have cost a fortune and I figured what may have been left was in the VAN as that seemed to be his main concern toward the end. He was fixated on the security of the VAN, yet when he died I found Nothing. Then several wks after I sold it - the buyer finds the wallet and heaven's only knows what else he never disclosed to me. After all if there was a few hundred dollars in 20's in the wallet and the widow didn't have any knowledge of the wallet - why not just pocket it - after all it was just a couple of hundred dollars and the widow didn't seem to be doing without. What she doesn't know won't hurt her - right? His girl friend bought the van for him - and he was just a flea market man...therefore not a man with a lot of financial resources. He told me 2 different stories about the Wallet find, yet the FBI never went back to him and requestioned him after I brought this to their attention. If someone thinks they have done something that will never hurt anyone and then 2 yrs later finds out the money that was pocketed came from a major crime...they worry about be prosecuted if they tell the truth. Plus they worry about what their friends might think. I do know he told me 2 DIFFERENT stories about the wallet within one week of each other. WHY? Liars do not remember what they said and why they get caught. You see Blevin the wallet story beats the hell out of the hidden access story - but no ONE cares about either one of them. It is like pissing in the rain - who would know what is piss and what is rain? Maybe we should do a book about Pissing in the Rain.. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Sluggo took COPIES of the military records Home with him! Doug Pasternac has them. You, Robt are picking at something that can be proven, but I have to PROVE nothing to you because I do NOT even KNOW YOU. End of Subject. Of, I forgot 2 young men who came to visit me - one just a fan and the other a writer also have copies of these, but they do NOT participate in trying to prove or disprove this in a thread. They nor I realized we were sharing something that would YRS later be debated in a thread. One guy wanted to just to see what he could find. Doug of course found most of them, Sluggo just wanted copies, Mr. X has them just encase something ever happens to the orginals, Another individual is a friend and keeps copies - just encase. This is the first time anyone has ever doubted the authenticity of the documents. Why don't you just take yourself to the military records archives and see what you find...remember I do NOT know you or who you are - you are just a name in the thread - you are nobody to me. You are someone who PRETENDS to know what he is talking about and you haven't see the documents - yet, state categorically they cannot be what I tell you they are. Any further exchange of information wtih you is useless. Produce your credentials and tell me who you are and maybe I will be nice and send you copies if Doug P says it is OK...after all he is the one responsible for most of the documentations. It was his hard work and research. You have offered nothing other than to dispute the records without having even made an attempt to research them yourself. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Robert 99 said: Your deliberate ignoring of valid information simply because it doesn't show what you want it to show is beyond belief! And playing the dumb blonde card won't work this time either! Jo will state: Not playing cards right now, because I have a lot to do and a lot on my plate. The information I gave you is VALID and you KNOW it. Only someone HELL bent on disproving anything I say would categorically claim the information I made about the NAVY and ARMY number was bad information. Now I will play the dumb blond card...WHO could benefit by claiming Jo Weber is forcing this or ignoring valid information she has JUST put it infront of you? Only someone who is or has been part of the fumbling - the the FBI has participated in regarding Weber/Cooper has anything to gain. Jo Weber has nothing to gain by pulling the Dumb Blonde card on this one....but the FBI has a lot to gain by proving she is wrong. There is a problem with that - she has it in BLACK and WHITE and in Government documents. What documents do you have Robert? Have you actually tried to go to WA DC and/or the archived Military documents and enquire about Duane Weber? They may no longer exist - Poof! Well, when I smelled a RAT I made sure copies would out live me before the government made the files go poof! I have the copies and other copies are in the hands of "others" as we speak. Ohers that believe I have been telling the truth and have done the very best I could do with limited resources. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Jo writes: Wikipedia is NOT a reliable source and you know this. Wikipedia is contributed to by the man on the street - it is NOT an Encyclopedia nor and reference guide for the military. Take what they say about Weber - it is incorrect, but since I am not the source I cannot change it even with black and white documentations...therefore inaccuracies regarding Weber remain on the site while others are able to make changes periodically. I do NOT know who created the story about Weber, but it is NOT accurate. What is there about the above statement you do NOT understand: What do I mean by TAKE - this is elementary in the sense it is used it means "for example". I was trying to drive into your brain with the example that Wikipedia is NOT accurate and is based on contributions by others using references. Their information is only as accurate as in so far as the source is concerned and this does NOT make it fact. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Note - I have told you that I ramble and why the FBI had a hard time even hearing me much less understanding. I Was talking about Wikipedia not being an accurate source for certain information and used what They have on Weber as an example. I am telling you I have copies of the actual papers some taken from archived military files that another party spent lots of time acquiring. The FBI didn't bother to do what this person did for me. Note Robert you stated: If Duane Weber served in the United States Army at any time from the date of his birth in 1924 until the all volunteer Army was established in the 1970s, then his service number (serial number) had a prefix in front of it! Jo will reinterate: I am not ignoring valid simple information - I have it and the FBI did NOT bother to find it. These files do NOT have a prefix of numbers - and they are real files. I suggest if you are connected to the FBI in any way that you make an appointment with me and I will provide you with access to these. They are NOT forgeries nor in any way altered files. Some are what the brother sent me and some are what a very industrious individual did in the Military archives...by going there himself. There is NO prefix in front of the Navy or Army number - only rate classification which are in a different category...and in a different square following the serial number but NOT part of the serial number and classified as RATE. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

The site won't let me enlarge the photo and the other alternate photos so I can get a good look at the hardware. Did people change hardware on these harnesses? Remember I know NOTHING about a chute and to this day have never seen one up close or touched one. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Note - letters where used for RATE and NOT part of the Serial number: Robert's reply: Jo, Go to Wikipedia and search for "Service Number (United States Armed Forces)". You will find that since the WWI time period, all US Armed Forces have used service numbers that included prefixes and/or suffixes. In the Army, RA stood for Regular Army, US for Army of the United States, NG for National Guard, etc., etc.. Jo writes: Wikipedia is NOT a reliable source and you know this. Wikipedia is contributed to by the man on the street - it is NOT an Encyclopedia nor and reference guide for the military. Take what they say about Weber - it is incorrect, but since I am not the source I cannot change it even with black and white documentations...therefore inaccuracies regarding Weber remain on the site while others are able to make changes periodically. I do NOT know who created the story about Weber, but it is NOT accurate. ------------------------- Robert99, you also made the statement below: "That Maritime Commission that you refer is probably not the Navy but may be something connected with the Merchant Marine which was a civilian organization in World War 2. However, some Merchant Marines were designated as veterans a few years ago." Jo writes: I will concede on this point and I am trying to copy the document it appears on. It was a poor copy when I received it and I do NOT have good success making printed document available on the thread, but I will try. Look for it this evening or in the morning. . ------------------------- Robert's reply: Jo, YOU are the one who hasn't done any meaningful research to back up your allegations! Jo Retorts: I have done more than the FBI did and so did Doug and others on my behalf - the FBI refused to look at these papers. ----------------------------- MILITARY DOCUMENT of DUANE L. WEBER provided to the FBI prior to 1998 by Jo Weber and Doug Pasternac formerly of the U.S. News and World Reports. This was 2 yrs after I asked the FBI to investigate Duane Weber and received their little disclaimer letter when the FBI had denied Weber's History per the family records. These documents were found by Doug after extensive searching and time. The FBI did NOT find them. U. S. Maritime Commission appears on a Registration Card with Summit 13 handwritten in the upper right hand corner. Serial Number N 91-A Duane Lorin Weber Order Number 12,035-A Address: 160 Oak Rd, Stow, Ohio. Telephone 021-8970 Age 19 Birth Willoughby, Oh DATE of BIRTH 6/18/22 Note Duane was born in 1924 and not 1922. Perhaps this is when he was trying to enlist as a minor in the war efforts. We do know he tried to falsify his birthcertificate in order to get into the Navy. Name and address or person who will always know your address: Handwriting different from above. (Mother) Mrs. C.J. Weber -Same address. #8 states Employer's Name and Address U.S. Maritime Commision This is why I concede on this, but still DO not understand what it means. There is NO date on this document I believe it connect to Selective Service , Local Board No. 13 of Summit County, Ohio, Akron, Ohio. Obviously Weber was trying to pass himself off as being 2 yrs older than he accually was because he falsified his birthdate. He was born June 18, 1924. Another document indicates Duane Reported on Jun 18 1941 with a serial number of 283 56 96 In a separate part of the document is AS given as a Rate and NOT part of the serial number. On the bottom Date transferred - Jun 19, 1941 to U.S.N.T.S, Newport, R.I. EARL V. SHERMAN, Lt.Cdr., U.S. Navy Received Jun 20, 1941 Shiped or statIoned from: NAV.TRA.STA. NEWPORT, R.I. Rectg.Sta., Cleveland, Ohio C.W. Magruder, Capatin, USN. Stamped across this is June 28 1941 - that was his 17th birthday. So he was bearly 17 when he left for Neport R.I. In fact per the document he left on his birthdate. Assigned to Selective Training and Service CARD (D.S.S. 166) mailed to BuNav in accordane with SECNAV despatch 1216 of 12 October 1940. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Because I only have dial-up I can never download the U-Tube stuff, But the POSTERS you create usually bring a smile to my face. Your postings and your posters are the fun part of this thread...and enjoyed by almost everyone unless you hit a nerve or two. Perhaps a collection of you "Cooper Posters" would make a good cover for a book. Would be unusual, but expensive in ink costs - it would definitely make a Cooper book stand out among the rest. It adds humor to an old case that gets boring sometimes.

No-one took anything from you, Jo. You decided to spend 15 years of your life chasing after this. It was your decision, your choice, not anyone else's fault. So you are saying NO ONE TOOK anything from anyone as a result of Cooper. Tina's life was destroyed - are you going to say that is her doing? You are a mother and a woman - but, you have no compassion. Perhaps your life has never been challenged - and you have never had to prove yourself. Never condemn what another claims about their feelings until YOU yourself have actually been in the place they stood and for the same amount of time and had the same connections. Yes the "stuff" I talk about would make a good book - but that has not been my goal. A book or movie created out of might have beens or could of beens is not what I sought in this search. I wanted the truth and nothing but the truth. Yes, it was MY choice to continue the struggle when the ODDS were stacked against me...and I would do it again.....BECAUSE I know what I saw and what I was told and what and what I held in my hands. NO one will every take my memory from me other than the natural process of aging and death. With what is being done on that CODE - as we speak - The connections between Weber and Cooper are becoming more positive each day. I am able to supply the DNA of a third party in Duane's life. If the DNA is on the envelopes used to mail the "clues" or the tie clip or anything Cooper related this story is over. I will re-interate - there are things regarding Cooper that remain a secret until this day and I do NOT understand why after 40 yrs the authorities find it necessary to keep these things confidential. That is a RED FLAG. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

The avatar I use is the only thing that is created. It is an avatar and all I did was connect the hair line with a pencil. I did NOT know how to turn a picture. The composite was dead center and face forward. The picture was at a slight tilt and if you go back and look a the Brown Suit photo you will understand. Note: Your avatar does NOT show your face - just the back of a T Shirt. An Avatar is just that - and NONE of the pictures submitted in this thread of Duane Weber have NOT been ALTERED in anyway what so every. END of Subject! NO, the way you presented your remarks is NOT acceptable as when one reads the reply you have inserted your words into my words. You have NOT made your words separate from mine. Then someone else copies that and suddenly no one knows what I said. You are putting your words within my paragraphs and being bold is not a sufficient designation. What this mean is that you or someone else could take my posts and add things I never said and you might even be adding language I do NOT use or insults I would not make. When one reads this they think it is me...saying those words. Perhaps the DZ can do something about making sure Quotes cannot have inserts places within the text of the writer. I try to be VERY specific when I do this - so NO one ever accuses the writer of having made such remarks. What you are doing is Quoting me, but inserting YOUR text within the Quote - this is unacceptable. Just making your remark bold is unacceptable. IF this practice was allowed to continue - I could take your post and add things to it. Nothing would ever make sense in the thread thereafter. No one would ever know or understand who said what. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Damn Georger you go and quote me before I can clean the post up. So you are indicating you and Robert are FBI? Or that you do Research for them? Vacation! What is that? No time and NO money - but then someone has to solve this damn thing. Question before you leave: Did the FBI test the note sent to the LA Times for prints, dna and handwriting. How does it compare to the items provided to Max Gunther when he went to the FBI. I have some blue paper - his ex-wife wrote a note to me on before she died. I may have some of the envelopes and maybe they would have DNA. December 14 th Duane was well enough to travel and off they went to N.Y. Perhaps the FBI needs to look at the notes Max made and the letter sent to him. I got rid of an old typewriter Duane held on to - he had it when he married me and carried it all they way to CO. He did not allow me to dispose of it until we were headed back to the South in 1980. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Rpbert99 Your post always seem professional but you get a lof of your information incorrect and state things I know are NOT correct. Since you are obviously well educated I wonder why you question some things that are evident such as: Robert99 stated: "As you have previously indicated in posts on this thread, the number "35608905" is probably Duane's Army serial number during World War II. That number may have a one or two letter prefix. Perhaps there is someone on this thread that is familiar with the Army serial number system from WW2." Jo Replies: If you were actually in the know you would know there were NO letters in the yrs Duane Weber had his Navy and Army serial number althought you used appropriate wording and asked assistance from others. What you were questioning was if I could actually read the government papers and I had already assured you there were NO other letters. Robert, you also disclaimed my elementary breaking of the code and went off on the Zodic codes which collapsed under the faulty logic used. What you are unaware of - is that I was aware of the QA code before I saw it here and even then knew I had seen it before. You guys kept bugging me about Duane's military records and I pulled what I had - then I saw it. I had mentioned this many many yrs ago because of something that was written on the last page of Duane's address book. I won't go into any detail about it at this time. Robert99, you also made the statement below: "That Maritime Commission that you refer is probably not the Navy but may be something connected with the Merchant Marine which was a civilian organization in World War 2. However, some Merchant Marines were designated as veterans a few years ago." How very wrong you were Maritime Commission was on Army Inductions. You questioned my ability to understand what I was reading and used it to manipulate the information. It didn't work as there are many older WW11 veterans right here in this thread. Robert 99 you also stated: "The "7698QA2753" is probably nonsense. The only place this number can be found on the Internet is in that article that appeared in the LA Times on December 14, 1971." Are you saying this letter to the LA Times does NOT exist except in an LA Times article and on this thread? Are you saying it is NOT part to the Cooper evidence files? Robert 99 also stated: "It is a mystery to me why Duane would have dealings with a NRS in Cleveland and then 11 days later with one in Newport." It would be nice if the FBI thought like that and maybe this would be over. What your statement means is the FBI never explored Duane Weber's past and they never acquired the documents that I did. They were there for the asking and they just ignored them. You also stated: "The "Bad Conduct Discharge" is issued by a Special Court Martial and creates a federal criminal record that nothing will erase. He absolutely would not be in the Army after such a discharge." "So if the records you have truly represent the facts, then it is questionable if Duane even served in the Navy in the first place. But if he did and received a Bad Conduct Discharge, he absolutely would have not subsequently been allowed into the Army." Well, Robert the documents I have do NOT lie and the FBI has had access to them, but as usual they just do their own thing. Rookie Agents are given assignments and the left hand does not know what the right hand is doing. They never cared enough to actually look at the documents and they were presented by me and by others. A Statement I made in a post below: Duane knew where very base was - he spoke often of Camp Pendleton and Ft. Lewis. One would get the impression he actually was on those bases. He pointed out McChord and every base we came near in our travels. He was very familiar with WA and OR bases - such as Camp Pendleton - told me about the jumpers there and how they could not go into the restaurants...and going to get food for them. I just don't know why all of Duane's stories about WA and OR and ID indicate he spent lots of time there, but NO one remembers him. I guess he was just a Ghost....no one remembers. Then later you make the uninformed statements below: "So there is a possibility that the FBI is right and Duane was never in the Navy. Do you know when Duane's federal criminal record started? Incidentally, Camp Pendleton is in southern California just south of LA and not in WA or OR. " Robert 99: You made 2 errors in the above statements - just like inept FBI agents have made over the yrs. No one ever said the FBI inferred that Duane was never in the NAVY- there is NO way you could derive that from my statements. Also - There was a Camp Pendleton either in OR or WA. The Nickles started there. Do you even know what the Nickles are. You even write and relate the same way the FBI agents did - in particial thoughts with no research to back up what you say. This is a mind game for you and others - it is NOT for me. I have had to do the FBI's job for them and that is a terrible thing...15 yrs of my life was taken from me because NO one could see what was right in front of them. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

What happened to the post by CKERT and George R and the other all I saw was Porn and similar posts. P.S. I didn't go back to the site until just a moments ago - and the few that where there when I found it are gone. You guys must have really posted a bunch of "crap" and my curiosity was up to see what all was going on. Gee Whiz I found the site and missed out on all the "fun" trying to figure out who was who. Hope no one posed as JoWeber. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Matt when you insert a question or statement of your own within the text I write - PLEASE show it as a reply so it does NOT appear to be part of my post. Matthew Cline stated: No you don't, yes I have read this whole laughable thread, you have offered no actual evidence, just your photo shopped pic and "word". Blevins at least has some evidence. Jo will STATE categorically: I have NOT photo shopped any of Duane's photo. The avatar was enlarge and cut (manually) and paste them together - all I did was a pencil connection of the hair line since the photo of Duane was at a slight angle and the composite was dead on. Matthew Cline stated: His experience was of a rejected individual who could not perform his military duties, one he supposedly volunteered for, why? what was he hiding from? why the two names? If the "timing" is the only item needed, well, I am a true bad ass by your rule! Jo STATES categorically: When you insert your notes within my text - be sure you note it is YOUR TEXT and not mine. Matthew Cline stated: No Parachute Training means no chance in hell he had the skills or knowledge to be alive after the jump, if he even made it. Jo Weber did NOT make that statement. Please learn how to appropriately make your statement separate from my post. If you continue to insert your statements within my post I am sure Quade can make some kind of arrangement for you as the way you are doing it - NO ONE knows what I said and you said and you make it part of my post. STOP! Matthew Cline Stated: Nothing is happening, it is a dead and cold case the FBI has neither the time nor inclination to waste valuable assets on. It makes a great book and movie, but is worthless other wise. Please make your corrections and post appropriately without altering my post and making your personal insert without a specific designation! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I know who you are and you obviously have NOT read this thread in it entirety nor the Locked on previously. I do NOT have detailed information about Weber's military and I don't think it is really relevant given the time of his military "experience". I have presented what I have without scanning the documents which I would NOT do out of principle. His name is WEBER & COLLINS and putting him in a chute in the military is a waste of time. What is NOT a waste of time for me are the MISSING yrs in Duane Weber's life. With what is happening today, I will wait and let things take the course they will...when someone wants to see me FACE to FACE and with the proper ID they can view these items otherwise they go back into the vault. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

You know Blevins this thread did a lot of research for you and "taught" you the basics of the crime. You had so many errors we just could not let that go to press the way you first did your book. The contributions where NOT for you but to keep mis-infomation regarding the facts out of your story. Several people have the information you require, but they are NOT going to "give" it to you, because they won't get anything back in return. I know 3 individuals who researched everyone on that plane - one is a woman who has NEVER posted here and would have NO knowledge of. Since I have not read your book, I have alwsys wondered if you ever gave credit to the DZ members for their help with the facts of the crime - or did you just take all the credit for work and research done by others. Don't give a whishy washy answer - just the truth. Did you credit the DZ for the information they willing provided when you did the re-write? I know that should anything ever come of the story I have told - I would thank not only those who aided but those who egged me along and gave me a hard time - the naysayers, because that only drove me forward just as we have all drove you forward about the FACTS of the crime. I say - You are on your own on with this one and I hope NO one else puts up their hand and puts the information into your turned up hand. Spend 15 yrs digging it up the way I have - then people don't mind too much when you ask for help on a specific. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Georger all I did was bring the darn screwball site to the attentions of others. I figured it was more of the same thing everyone went thru with one of those blogs before - someone pretending to be others and/or some of you trying to prove how gullible the public is. It WAS a dead issue with me when I posted it. I knew the CKRET person did NOT sound like the same Ckret who posted here. I have not been back since I made the thread aware of it. Maybe I should go find it again and see what the ruckus is all about. Sounded like a bunch of kids or screwballs. I need for you to take the PM restriction off - at least long enough for me to get you a PM or you will have to trust me with a contact number or reg email. REALLY need to have a PRIVATE cconversation with you at this time. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Blevins - Georger is referring to when I first found the site and place it over here. Yes, he has had time to find out what it was all about. How many silvers have you pulled. Oh, that's right you don't drink . Maybe you just like connecting what doesn connect. I haven't been back since I found it - there is probably a Jo or jojo or joy there by now. The young people like to do the thing just to cnfuse issues. We don't need to bring GABAAGE in to the thread ....I tried to spell gabbbage the way NY talks/ Only been there twice in my life and the only thing I MISSED was seeing a play. Did the night club thing at club 54, Dinner at 4 Seasons. Even went on a date with a New Yory er by the name of Joey. He even brought flowers. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Are you guys still banging it out in that cottin pickin site. I don't even know how to find it anymore. The decoded code has been sent out - see what happens...when smokejumpers, media and everyone else gets it. Maybe I am making a fool out of myself, but I really feel good about this one. I even sent the FBI a copy. Geeze NOW I sound like Blevins. Oh well that is not as bad as sounding like the sssshhhh don't say name. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

It is 12:49 here, but I wanted to post this one last time. Strange things happening tonight...if I hear anything else I will call the sheriffs office. I just turned all of my outside lights on. I am copying part of a prior post because I want someone to put their thinking hat on - really think. Does anyone remember if the code was put in Gunther's book. I don't feel like pulling it and rereading it. Code: 7698QA2735 - if you decode this you can find me. I believe that was ACTUALLY Cooper himself. He mailed that in CA and then headed to N.Y. His injuries had 2 wks to heal and he was headed to N.Y. to greet the N.Y. Even as he was in N.Y. he expected to get caught. This is why I wish I had the old communications Max Gunther received from a man and a woman called Claire. My letter and phone calls with Max gave the two us a strong belief that Claire and Duane's wife where one and the same. She even wrote in one of her letters to me the very same thing Claire had said in a letter to Max. "We all have a little larceny in our hearts". Max wanted to know how to contact this ex-wife of Duane's and it was after he got back from his trip to CA that he and I ceased communicating. This was before 2000 and so my communications are all letters and notes of phone conversations. Geoffrey Gray looked at those letter as did Sluggo...although I did NOT allow them to read the content as it was private. Max was somewhat flirtatious and had a rather kinky life that more or less paralled the kinky life Duane and his wife lived. Is this why they went to N.Y.? Was it to make contact with Max? Had they met him in the past? I don't remember without pulling the book, but was there something in Max's book about the message that was coded. I hope so - because that will only confirm in my mind the connection. 7698QA2735 Army 35608905 Navy 283-56-96 Example use the Navy number 283-56-96 versus - 7698QA2753 July was the 7th month and the day the he was dismissed as an undesirable. Why 7 is the turn around number. 96 last 2 # in Navy #'s Use 7 and reverse 96 to 69 gives you 7 69. use the same on the last two number of the code - 53 becomes 35 after the turn around number. giving you 7 53 now you have 7 69 and 7 53 Q is Question - A is Answer. The 8 and the 2 reversed are the 1st 2 number of his Navy number This equates to 769 8 QA 2 753. The same system works on his Army number. 35608905 7698QA2753 3560 - 8905 Reverse 35 to get 53 Reverse 89 to get 98 so now you have xx98QAxx 53 July is 7th month 7x98QAx753 versu left x6xxQA2xx 2 is the first number of the Navy 6 is the last number of the Navy reverse their order 7698QA2753 I do NOT believe you can do this with just random numbers. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Someone Stated: I forget who. "Hey Jo, you keep blabbing about all this evidence you have, Duane is long gone, why not post what you have on DZ and let the experts take a look at it?...what's to lose...???" Georger replied with: Jo is not hiding and I have been chewed up and spit out by the naysayers. The media takes things out of context the same as some do in this thread. At least in this thread I can try to explain what I am talking about. In the short time the FBI spent with me there IS no way they investigated the things I have told about Duane Weber. Earlier (yesterday) I made a post going back to the smokejumpers and I alway get pulled back there. He actually talked about these people and he knew these people yet the FBI has never explained this nor have they ever even addressed Duane's connection to smokejumpers. I do not know if the FBI even has anything in their files regarding what I tried to tell an agent with what limited information I had in 1996. It is this thread which has helped me to explore more on these subjects - the site and other things we discussed. True we have all explored lots of things - but I personally keep going back to the 2 periods - 1945 to 1949 and 1962 to 1968 when Duane Weber basically disappears off the radar. Mr. Georger (JW) that is my initials - duh!, Why do you bother to sit here and read or comment about the things I say if there was NOT something about what I keep "trying" to say that doesn't interest you? I will tell you why! You Georger have something in your crawl that says this woman is NOT lieing, but there are things about her story no one can explain. If I knew who or how to approach the authorites and had the money I would go back to WA and sit in front of the FBI and have them explain to me WHY they have no records of Duane's activities during those periods. I think it is the FBI that needs to do some explaining about this. If they do - they have NOT been shared with me. WHY NOT? I am tired of the battle - I want only some straight answers from the FBI...face to face. At least I haven't been out there banging on Tina's door even though I have known where she was for yrs. You guys know that is the one lie I have told in all of this - but, it was easier to act like I didn't know. I have done what I could to protect her and I am upset with individuals who are pursuing her even as we speak. She remembers nothing - leave her be - Cooper destroyed her life...just as Duane Weber did to me when he told me "I'm Dan Cooooper". Yes, in a way I hide in this thread because it helps me to explore what I do know and does not expose me to anyone I do NOT want to speak to. I try to answer the questions presented to me and I have had lots of help with things I did not understand. I spent 7 hours going back to search things I had already searched before - and the information available now is much more thorough than it was in 2000 when I first used a computer Does anyone remember where the name Brauer came up. His name came up early on in the searches Snowmman presented, but the thread and I moved on. This man came up again last night and it was just MORE of the strange co-incidences. Jumper, Ohio, CA, a family friend who was older by the same name. So I want to find out more about this man - did he have brothers and was his father connected to the CPS's. At one time I tried to find some research on a CPS camp in CA called Cooperstown and more on Placerville and a place East of Placerville. The records are spread all over the place - they were shipped to other areas...so no one has complete files. No one has ever explained Duane Weber's relationship to Richard 'Paperlegs' Petersen as late as 1980. The site that Leo Harder's son had up still leaves me haunted - pictures Duane Weber showed me in a book, but NO ONE knows what or where that book was or what it was called. Most of the pictures on the site where put in the Book Duane Weber brought home - with pages missing...I never saw the front of that book. The Marvin Doerksen whose relatives disclosed he was NEVER in CA. They lived in Kansas. Then there is Duane's cousin who just disappeared off the map. Only 2 yrs younger than Duane. His father Lyman Van Buren Weber - died and his wife Naomi remarried and retired to St. Petersburg. Perhaps to the very home she owned with Lyman - hence when the ex-con was arrested at Treasure Island who gave his ocupation as "crook" said "Ask them They know me" maybe he wasn't lieing. I am not playing any games - I am seeking the truth about Duane Weber - be it to solve the crime he confessed to or for my own sanity - it makes no difference. I need to know and someone out there knows the truth. By now most if not all of those who did know the truth are gone, just as I will be gone...and then the truth will never be known. I do know that if by chance Duane was not Cooper - he sure as hell knew who was and he was in possession of "the evidence". There was a man I often had questions about - but, maybe he was just another antique dealer. he was retired military (a officer). I only know his last name, but would provide it to someone privately to research. Since this may only have been someone Duane had business dealing with I have always been reluctant to mention his name. All I remember is his last name. Another thing that has become to light in my going back over Duane's "military" record if we can even call it that. 1943 he leave the Army - but would not the government have been after him for enlisting in the army after having the bad conduct charge in the Navy? Some how the family got him out of McNeil after only the inception and he was at a camp - NOW it makes sense why I feel certain he was at the Camino Camp in Calilfornia...and not under the name of Duane Weber. Mid 1945 Duane is release per the records, but then he drops off the face of the earth. Was the family hiding him? Were there more charges out that waiting to place against Duane? Back in those days it was easy to assume the name of someone else - and I think that is exactly what happened - and I feel sure he used the nickname of Dusty. Or did he explain his tattoo another way or did he continue to use the nickname of Dusty? Until Duane Weber resurfaces in 1949 in California going up on charges and into San Quentin. Where was he mid yr from 1945 until he was pulled up on charges in CA???????? This is when he was in WA and OR....now for what I have been looking for. I have had NO luck in pulling information about Paperlegs, but I have a feeling he and Duane knew each other from Camp Sibert - Need a little on this. When I can get more details about the life of Paperleges everything else will fall in place. This will put Duane Weber if NOT in a Chute but in association with jumpers. Maybe he was a kicker so he had to learn to put a chute on and do at least one jump. What was Richard Petersen's legal name and was he ever in Ohio as a kid. Where did he serve? What yrs? I do know he headed up the Communication in from 1962 until 1973. Codes were involved in the communications program he headed up. Remember from 1962 to 1968 - Duane's life is unaccounted for other than the time he supposedly spent in Jefferson. Now if the FBI was NOT hiding something - why NOT make the actual file available to me as was acquired from the other prisons. All I could get was what was available only after the master file is destroyed. William E. Thomas - why didn't the FBI find something about that name. The FBI had his name and his location, but they never questioned him - WHY? There is a connection between these men. William E. Thomas, Richard "Paperlegs" Petersen, Tony Wong, Tommy Gunn. Oh I found something else - remember the name I had on a card Duane had in his hidden wallet. George Edwards male nurse. This has been a puzzle and may still be, but I found this as I was just going thru the obits of the Smoke Jumpers - Edward Nurse who jumped in Missoula in 1948 and he died in 2003. Probably nothing there other than it wa 4AM in the morning and I was getting punchy. Damn now I sound like Knoss - jumping on names. Creating characters. Code: 7698QA2735 - if you decode this you can find me. I believe that was ACTUALLY Cooper himself. He mailed that in CA and then headed to N.Y. His injuries had 2 wks to heal and he was headed to N.Y. to greet the N.Y. Even as he was in N.Y. he expected to get caught. This is why I wish I had the old communications Max Gunther received from a man and a woman called Claire. My letter and phone calls with Max gave the two us a strong belief that Claire and Duane's wife where one and the same. She even wrote in one of her letters to me the very same thing Claire had said in a letter to Max. "We all have a little larceny in our hearts". Max wanted to know how to contact this ex-wife of Duane's and it was after he got back from his trip to CA that he and I ceased communicating. This was before 2000 and so my communications are all letters and notes of phone conversations. Geoffrey Gray looked at those letter as did Sluggo...although I did NOT allow them to read the content as it was private. Max was somewhat flirtatious and had a rather kinky life that more or less paralled the kinky life Duane and his wife lived. Is this why they went to N.Y.? Was it to make contact with Max? Had they met him in the past? I don't remember without pulling the book, but was there something in Max's book about the message that was coded. I hope so - because that will only confirm in my mind the connection. 7698QA2735 Army 35608905 Navy 283-56-96 Example use the Navy number 283-56-96 versus - 7698QA2753 July was the 7th month and the day the he was dismissed as an undesirable. Why 7 is the turn around number. 96 last 2 # in Navy #'s Use 7 and reverse 96 to 69 gives you 7 69. use the same on the last two number of the code - 53 becomes 35 after the turn around number. giving you 7 53 now you have 7 69 and 7 53 Q is Question - A is Answer. The 8 and the 2 reversed are the 1st 2 number of his Navy number This equates to 769 8 QA 2 753. The same system works on his Army number. 35608905 7698QA2753 3560 - 8905 Reverse 35 to get 53 Reverse 89 to get 98 so now you have xx98QAxx 53 July is 7th month 7x98QAx753 versu left x6xxQA2xx 2 is the first number of the Navy 6 is the last number of the Navy reverse their order 7698QA2753 I do NOT believe you can do this with just random numbers. Now you guys figure it out! Simple coding that makes sense to the person it refers to and to the FBI it was just a bunch of numbers - It was not even coding - it was just his way of saying figuer it out if you can. He used both the ARMY and NAVY numbers to do this. We all did things Like this when we were kids. The FBI baffles me on this - WHY use the 1945 fingerprints for McNeil. There are mulitple prison records they could have used - why didn't they compare all of the prints on Duane Weber? Maybe there is a discrepancy in the the prints. Did they check his arrest file against the McNeil record? NO! WHY? Did they check any fingerprints other than the McNeil file? Surely he was fingerprinted several time after that? WHY use one of the oldest records on Weber...why not compare other incarcerations - to be sure? Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

My Rendezvous is an AWD CX The rounded hitch made a direct impact on the wheel (on the right passenger side) which pushed the axle into the crank case cracking the seal. There seems to be oil coming from above - at what looks like a fluid line of some kind - above the Oil Pan and up were the crank case is. This line has a huge bulge in it like a blood vessel getting ready to rupture. I have no idea what I am looking at. I am not very big and I was under the car today sliding on plastic on my back. I put one flash light in the motor where the belt is and along the motor side on the passenger side. When I got under the car I had 3 more flash lights - one directe up to the side of the oil pan. Then I position another flash light over at the wheel sticking it between the spokes so it would shine toward the Transaxle. With a very high beam small flash light I put my little arm in that crevice along the pan and straight above it. This is where I saw this line with a bulge in it and that is where most of the oil or fluid is coming from. Slow leak because the oil had not got low enough to the point I have had to add oil. This is my sweet sweet baby and it fits me and my disabilities to a glove without alterations. The new cars all have everything in the wrong place. Seniors with disabilities (most of which just occur with the aging process) need simple to operate. My right knee will not hold a brake down repeatedly to start a car and my right finger trembles and has arthritis - hence a car one starts in this manner is out. Cars with the gear on the dash require I move my body forward from the waist. That does not work. Cars with a gear that requires one to use the right thumb or move the right shoulder doesn't work. The new seats are narrow and hard and very very hard on old hips or replacements. The new seats will not tilt down at the knees which is a requirement of artificial knees and those with damaged knees. We need a slant. If our knee is forced to bend too much - that affects our mobility. Those with poor circulation cannot have the knees bent at right angles and with the front of the seat pushing up against the back of the thigh - cuts off circulation. The height of the Rendezous is just perfect. I sit on the edge of the seat and swivel in. Once in I shut the door and by lifting myself up with the center console and the door handle - I put myself in position to travel. I am tall by the standards of my age but I shrink every yr. My legs from the knee to the foot belong on someone 5 ft 2 in tall, From my hip to my knee that belongs on a 6 ft man. The neck is long and my torso is long. The the father of my children (we were married for 10 yr, but he didn't know the definition of marriage and fidelity)...he calls me a GD Griraffe. That fits except for the GD - he could have leave that part out. Been half looking for a new car, but haven't found anything I can drive or get in and out of. The 2010 Toyota Highlander I rented in Oct in WA in 2010 was accessible. The new ones I understand have lots of changes such as those above - plus I cannot afford that kind of money. It had the center gear control but my shoulder was not bothering me at that time. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I can't get away from this. I go back to the things Duane told me about his life and his knowing smokejumpers keeps coming back and coming back. Nuetsel or something like - said he went onto Cave Junction. Richard Petersen (Paperlegs). He knew him. There was the one who like did rodeos - that would be Shep. He couldn't make these things up, because in those days we knew nothing about computers and he didn't read books except the 2 I have told you guys about - Norjack and that other book he brought to the house with the pictures in it that go back to Placerville. Now I found the older man who was in those pictures - guess where he was in 1943 - yea, you guessed it Camp Sibert. There is so much more on the computer than when I looked all of this up before. I just haven't gone back. Before there was hardly anything about Camp Sibert and now here come the man in CA. and guess where he was orginally from and ended up in CA. One of the places Duane and his family had family and friends in Ohio. I forget right now. I got so excited I couldn't contain myself and I am exhausted - it is 3:28 here and I hardly slept last night. Been having chest pains for several days now and been trying to ignore it - I got so much to do and such a short time to do it in. A woman hit my car over 3 wks ago and I have been given the run-around by their insurance company - Geigco. I finally carried it in to my company on Friday, but I still have to get my car repaired - looked at new ones and couldn't find one I could get in and out of...I drive a 2003 Rendezous with only 61K miles on it. She hit my right front wheel with her trailer hitch - she backed straight back and didn't look and she backed out like she owned the parking lot. I was sitting still with my foot on the brake waiting for a man to pull out of a handicap parking space I wanted. These are NOT angled parking spots - but the ones you back staight back. If she had not hit me she would have hit him coming out. I thought the front end and door would be all tore up, but when I got out of the car all I saw was flakes of her paint on either side of the tire. Then I saw what hit my wheel dead on - a big trailer hitch. I didn't see any damage other than a dinge and scrathes on the wheels, but had a report done and thankfully I did - because when I got on the expressway to head home - it was bumping and bouncing all over the place. I was told the Crankshaft seal was cracked, the rim wheel, rotor and something else was damaged by 2 out of 4 places. It was 8 days before I could see an adjustor and during that eight days something started to leak on the garage floor (car has been temperature controled garage except when in use). Exposed to the elements - for 6 wks of its life... 2 wks at the airport in Oct. a trip to Ohio for Thanksgiving and another trip to R.I. to see my hsuband's mother. Then a trip to S.Florida during a winter month. This is a 2003 Rendezous with only 61K on it. The adjustor said they will only pay for a wheel and one rotor trim - this is all wheel so all 4 have to be done. But It hit me so hard the crankcraft seal cracked and they said that was wear and tear because the car is a 2003. Over three wks and Nothing. Now their dealer said I have leaking valve gasket heads (this is expensive), but I don't see this myself...and they won't pay for it. 2 dealers, Vannoy and an independent looked at my car. The dealer I bought the car from saw basically nothing but alignment and rotors. Vannoy saw that, but noted the leak I told them was NOT there before the accident - I was supposed to be on the road for a trip the next day..car had been serviced and ready to roll. I noted the fluid to the adjustor and then stopped on my way home at Goodyr who serviced the car -about 1000 miles before. They noted no leak coming from the oil pan but above it. They NOTED no leaks at the oil change...and gave me a statement this had occurred in the last 1000 miles. A mechanic in our local area who used to work for a dealer - said Crankcase seal and confirmed it. I called him and told him the second dealer (chosen by the other parties insurance company) was claiming gasket heads and not from the accident. This local mechanic used to work for a dealer! I have been trying to handle this myself and finally just walked into my insurance company on Friday and put it on their desk. I can't do this anymore...and I need my car to be working properly. I am afraid driving it like this will only damage it more. The new tires I put on only have 7000 miles on them...that was over 2yrs ago. My baby was running so good...on the thursday before the 4th and now it feels like I am riding on a Steel wheel (the kind on old farm wagons). Any advice from anyone will be appreciated and this we can do in PM's. In other worlds I need to rent a husband or son for car know how and expertist in how to handle these chislers. Now I know I am beat - emotionally and physically. My poor baby - she needed a new mat where I sit - she is fantastic. She is NOT replaceable - I tried to do that for the last yr - and notjing out there can accommodate me and if I can't get in and out of the car it is of no use. I will not do the head gaskets unless they can confirm it and I need a guy wiith me who knows how to talk to the dealer and mechanics - they see a woman coming and their pockets get real deep. Large luxuriouls dealership but lots of empty bays. He came in with a big bid and that just caused Giegco to shut down on anything. 9 calls before she returned my phone call. They claim the oil is dripping dow andmaking it look like crank case seal broke. When they got so ridiculous I woud have shut down also. What he told me and what she was told (or understood- is 2 different animals. 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