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I know and that is what made the music start tonight _ so very very strange! That is when the music started in my head...when they told me that. The strange co-incidence of that - made tonight overwhelming. The sister was visiting the other sister and she wanted to talk to me and she told me the story about the Dollars corner and the name of the man. I have only spoke with that sister 2 times in all of these yrs. They do not live together and she had to get on the phone to talk to me and that was what she wanted to tell me. She had even been in touch with the man who used to introduce the singers at the Dollar Corner. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I don't know what any of this means. I had to get away from the computer - I am in total SHOCK! I wasn't feeling well and I had to call a friend and they had something else to tell me about Dollars Corner - the man who introduce the man who sang was Dave Brown - I thought that was TOTALLY odd. I am hearing things, music like a chorus of angels. I went outside and the sky is clear - you can see every star out there. I am crying, but I feel free. The music I still hear and nothing there - but it doesn't stop. It seem like it is coming from the house - like I am surround by something holding me and lifting me. It sounds like a choir but there is NO sound outside. Between everything that has happened tonight and the medications I am on - I think I am hearing things. That or it is Duane Weber and he finally made retribution for his life - he's making the music some place some where. That beautiful voice was so special and he had a gift. Somehow he got lost. Maybe just maybe I made a difference in his life. I understand why he kept it a secret...he knew I would not have been in his life. Now he is setting me free. So very strange that I was told tonight the man at the Dollar's Corner was named Dave Brown...he was the one with the band who introduce the singer that they believe was Duane Weber. Susie and her sister live in WA and I had to talk to someone. Everyone I know here is sleeping. The sound of the music is awesome. Yes Mrshutter, you have been an Angel, I do NOT know why the FBI was so cruel and thoughtless - to let me suffer for 17 yrs with information they had. If it has to do with LAW that law needs to be changed when a wife needs information to move forward. Strange thing is that I do believe he was Cooper. It makes all of this make sense. Who else would have a reason to do a crime that beat the system (using a phrase another poster uses regarding Peterson). My emotions are so mixed right now. How was he able to keep his past a secret - and how was he able to become successful in his life...none of this makes sense. His carrying a picture of the SanMoreno Sanitarium in the hidden wallet - it was like there was something special about that place. Could he have undergone shock treatment there - what kind of place was it? So confused. Why did he hold on to the John Collins stuff and what else was there in that vehicle? So very confused! I think with everything I know he was capable of doing the Cooper skyjacking. Spokane prior to 1950, what did he do there. Do not know how that even fit in the busy schedule he kept with the prisons. Where was he from 1962 to 1966 as Dusty Collins. What did he do during that part of his life....was he finding a new life with the new identity - and the woman in his life at that time who remained in his life until 1972 - she told me about Paperlegs and the places they went.... Duane told me about his life in 3rd person. HOW did he manage to go straight or did he? Did he become a master manipulator - of the system and people and learned how to fly under the radar so to speak! What was his life like - all those yrs running and in prisons? How did he manuever the system during the 17 yrs he and I were married? How did he change or did he just not get caught again... The Angels - I still hear them and it is so soothing, but I don't know what it all means! I just don't know! Maybe it is the airconditioning or the refrigerator or is the FAT LADY singing? I have been labeled Delusional and Off my Rocker - tonight hearing that music - I think I might be. I do think he learned the system - and I believe he was Cooper - I know he was! How or why I could never explain, but I will hold onto the good memories we had - we basically had a good marriage except for the 6 wks or less right after he went on the machine in 1990. I remember how protective he was always of me. He made sure I walked on the inside of the walk ways and his hand on my back always protecting me. He made me feel beautiful and he made me feel loved - and I was proud of him and his accomplishment. The only time our marriage was rocky was for a few weeks in 1990 - when he thought I had turned him in for the Drivers License fraud when he was going on the machine. But, I hadn't so he finally realized that. He was funny and he was charismatic - he was lousy in bed, but the way he made me feel - he made me feel like I was cherished and that I was special. He lived a life of secrets - and I do not expect any of us will know all of those secrets. My funny "third person" husband who sang You'll Never Know How Much I love you on our wedding night with a full band. He did tell me about his life in 3rd person...perhaps he never thought I could love the 1st person story. If he was capable of living a lie for 17 yrs - what else was he capable of doing. I think we all know the answer to that one! He left this life telling me the one true thing he had ever told me about his life! He beat the system! I still hear that music! Such mixed emotions! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

That first photo explaines the scar he had at the top of his forhead - he did have a widows peak at one time. I guess he had an injury or he pulled it out to himself. I have one pic that shows the scar - Oh my God - what was I married to. Why didn't the FBI just show me this stuff instead of taking up 18 yrs of my life...do they have NO mercy or did YOU find things they were not capable of doing or just didn't want me to know? You are no Shutter man you are an investigator - investigator like you only exist in movies. I noted on mentioning a dischard of May 1959 and then I know he was arrested in CO and sent to Canon in 1960 and released in 1962. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I have many pages of the SanQuentin and Folsom file but no photos. I Never saw what he look like as a kid other than the Navy photo which is not very clear and some of him as a child his sister sent me. This guy spent most of his adult life in prison. I could not see them very well nor read them. Could you copy and send me the best you can - hard copies - I would love to have these. What is Chino - what was the name of the places from which these photo came. How did you get them and NO one else did - not a New Journalist nor an investigator. I want to know more I want to see the pictures of him and hold them and study them. I want to know were he was every moment of this life. The escape thing I have had NOTHING on other than what you guys posted. You are remarkable - I have to meet you in-person to thank you. Regardless of the what the end of this comes to - I want to meet you. You have found so much of the missing puzzle. Does the FBI or did the FBI have all of this? If not, why? Who was I married to. I could read the word contraband and a lot was stricken out - I want to see the ones without the strike outs. I want to know who this man was I was married to. Perhaps I am finding out things I didn't want to know, but it is hard to believe the man I spent so many yrs with could be that BAD! I am in shock! I have what was left of the McNeil file and the clerk there search the storage places - most of it had been destroyed other than a summary of one page. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Right now I am shaking and sweating because I am so nervous. My project has been completed. Been working this thru and I have been in a tremendous amount of pain, but it is something I had to do. I asked for help in the composing and completion of this but it was not forth coming....not referring to you guys who have been so helpful. The package to the FBI has gone, but it won't leave the post office until tomorrow afternoon. Composed of 2 pages (yes I finally got it condensed to 2 pages). There are 3 attachments. I thought by coming to the computer I could calm myself down! None of this will come to the forum, but I had to make a leap of faith at this time. The FBI will have their package by Monday and they will have until Thursday morning to respond by phone call. If they reject the package (which has to be signed for) and / or do not contact me by Thursday morning the others will go out. Where the others go is NO ONES business other than my own. I have revealed things never revealed before. Some may have been sporadically mentioned in the thread, but I held all of this till there was no other way to end this. At least I will KNOW I have DONE ALL I CAN DO! I have to let go of all of this and move on - the only way to do that is as I have outlined above. NO, 377 it will NOT be on the computer - I do NOT have the capabilility to do that nor do I want to do so. Finally if will be over - at least for me! OR it could open up a whole NEW can of worm or snakes or controversary. I will not pe a part of that. Knoss plays NO part in any of this nor does anything he ever posted or sent me. My contacts with that man cost me lots of time and energy and he was deterent to the FBI. I have to MOVE on with what is left of my life and this is my choice, to finally let it all out of the bag! Hopefully there will be those who will support my efforts and who will believe in me. I have NOT lied nor have I created a fantasy story. This is real with NO accusations from anyone and NO prodding from anyone. It is what Has to finally happen! What the results will be - who knows? No I did not include the Salt Lake thing - but, did consider doing so. I know that picture has some very significant meaning as far as all of this is concerned - but, what, maybe forever lost since I could not find the identity of the man. NO, none of what I have sent involves espionage or covert activities unless someone makes links or finds connections. That will be what others will do over and over for the next 40 yrs if what I have done does not end this once and for all. 377 & Shutter if you want a copy you can have one after the "others" have been sent next wk. Only an act of congress or my death can stop what I have set in motion. Georger - you can have one also, but I need a physical mailing address. After this is over - I will organize things and pack-up what I have. Hopefully someone will offer their assistance in my doing this as the research is massive. I have some addresses of the places I am sending the (15) mailings out to, but some I will need to try to find this wk. end. The balance of these packages will go out next Friday and I do NOT know what the resulting end will be. 377 if you want one of the packages you will have to provide a mailing address...which will never be made public. I am not going to search for it. Ditto for shutter. Both of you have my private email address - not the one in the thread. It has been DONE! It is over for ME! I can do NO more! Just wish there was someone to hold me right now and I hope I am doing the right thing. NO tease on my part 377 - this is REAL! I finally had to do it and I am doing it MY WAY! It was TIME! YOU WILL NEVER KNOW IF YOU DON'T KNOW NOW & MY WAY. IF anyone has access to the old songs with the original performers I would like them on a CD's. All I have is the CD player - no Record player but lots and lots of old albums I can no listen to. Moving on to what is left of my life and setting myself free of this legacy Weber left behind. It was NEVER going to be over with until the FAT LADY sang and even thought I can't carry a tune in a bucket - the LADY is singing. I have always been a lady - maybe that is what Weber saw in me and changed his life. I hope so. This search for the truth has changed me from the woman I used to be. Maybe I can find her again. My social graces as I age are eluding me - but, that is what this legacy Duane dumped into my lap has done to me. Hopefully now I can find some Peace and enjoy what time is left in my life. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

We all had issues to raise but now it is time to get back on a subject that has to do with Cooper. I have re-written the stuff to send to the FBI and I still get too wordy. If I go see one of the Local journalist - that is not going to work. Got the pictures. but they need explanations. Item 1 probably has nothing to do with the crime. Item 2 may be an item Cooper wore. Maybe this item belongs to Vickie's father. Well, it could! He disappeared in 1971 and Duane did state "Maybe I was the one on the ground". If it does then there is a grave site I have to go back and find! First I have to find the records about the grave yard. Item 3 is Mouse. Item 4 is not being sent - that is the knife I was afraid to try to have a pic taken of it - especiallly if that lint Sluggo claims was dust turns out to be chute cord. (I explained what the item was and why it was not photographed). It would be offered up to the FBI if they chose to test it. BUT, they have to return it to me in a few wks - not in 5 yrs as was the case with the other items. They can take scrapings and remove the content take a pic and hand it back to me. If it is damaged that is OK, but I want it back before I die....hell will freeze over if I am still here 5 yrs from now. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Trying to compose a letter to put with the pictures, but I get too wordy. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

BINGO! Same with the Law. Look at the facts that have been DISALLOWED in the Trayvon Martin incident. The jury will not be able to use - this kids drug record, suspensions from school, and past fighting. The defense will also not be allowed to present the kids text or other social media and past fighting problems, The system is going to prosecute a man who man have over-reacted, but when you hear the tape you know the agressor was the deceased. The evidence of marijuana use and prior fightings should be allowed...along with the tapes. If I was sitting on that jury - no way could I send that man to prison. The man over-reacted and being the adult should have backed away. But the way I understand it he did attempt to leave and that is when Martin attacked him....guess it will all come out in the trial. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I don't know what to tell them about the items - I get too wordy. Please help. 2 watches and the "mouse". I am with-holding the knife because I want the "lint" in checked against the cord he cut on the plane. Since one of the WATCHES is very expensive I damn sure am not sending them or mouse to the FBI. If someone wished to call me I promise never to harass you - but I need some help with this - what I wrote they will never be able to follow. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

*** Jo, nobody has come close to what the FBI has done with the Cooper case. did you send hundreds of soldiers looking for Cooper, have you spent hundreds of hours talking with actual witnesses, not just a few minute phone conversation. track down suspects stating they were Cooper, did you have the Air Force up looking for Weber clues? how many people have helped you vs the amount the FBI has used? you are one sided on this issue, you have done more investigating on Weber than the FBI has, but you haven't done as much as the FBI has. I think that's a fair statement. *** That is a FAIR statement: I would not want to count the hours nor the people I have spoke to in an unofficial capacity. BUT, my research involved passengers and the crew (limited with the crew) and those who supposedly know the crime, such as Himmelsbach, Tosaw, Cossey, the other chute guy and the list is endless. Yea, also a lot with individuals like BK and many many others who chose not to make public spectacles of themselves. There were investigative journalist who also did research on my behalf, historians in several area who have made their expertise available, the list goes on and on. I have done more than my share in the last 16 yrs. I left the first 2 yrs up to the FBI, but they just dismissed Weber based on prints alone in 1998. Then in 2003 they did ask for DNA, but did not return that DNA until 2007. Pulling the dates out of my head so sorry if I am off a yr here and there. I am unable to retain all of this in my head. I will note that someone earlier mentioned the instance in which Cooper offered the stew some of the money. He was giddy per the stewardesses statements....provide either by the FBI or someone involved with the case. Not one time did I ever hear that the stewardesses ask Cooper for money. Supposedly his offering money to them was spontaneous on the the part of Cooper. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Could not download that pic. If it is a picture of a white bank bag, yea the money was inside of that but it was placed inside of another container prior to being taken onto the plane - per the Co-pilots description. Tina is the ONLY one who knows the answer to what that money was in when She presented it to Cooper. Of course the whitish bag was there, but IT did not go out of the plane in that bag alone. Remember that in 1990 I saw the damn BANK BAG in the van. I opened it up and Duane said it was an old bag from a WA bank. I remembered what it said. How many time in the beginning did I ask the FBI and everyone else if there was ANYONE out there counterfitting souvenir items - like the Sea First Bank bag? Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Pics of the 2 watches and the mouse have been done - I did not do the knife because that is something that needs to be delivered to a lab. The package will have to be signed for and I do NOT know what agent to send them to. IT WILL NOT BE FRED GUTT! Suggestions and addresses - please. Actually thinking about doing a copy to a TV station and/or attorney that will also require a signed receipt. Then I will know when the FBI has them! I am also requesting a phone call stating they have received them! They WILL go out tomorrow as I have to do a letter to accompany the package. If any of you have a GOOD suggestion as to what I need to say - Please help. I will be coming back to the thread this evening when I get ready to do the cover letter to go with the photos. Perhaps you guys can help with the cover letter. Needs to be short and to the point about why the pic are being sent to the FBI. I would love to address the negligence of the FBI in NOT providing me with the Jefferson file - and for the first time and asking for your help to do something right the RIGHT WAY! Blevins & Bruce need to STAY our to this as neither of them can stay neutral and pleasant. I am sure 377 might have some good points and perhap he could be in reciept of the other signed copies. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

It would be NICE if you guys would stop saying inappropriate things about nuns, good girls and Tina. NONE of you knew her. Every young lady or MOST young ladies do have their wild streak in their early 20's at least that is the way it was with my own children. Tina did NOT deserve to have to be talked about the way some of you guys have addressed her in this thread. How many of you would say these things to her face? Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

He could have said glow, lights or haze.....what is important is that he told more than one person this. I am not a pilot and it has been several yrs since he described that night to me on the phone...I made notes after the conversation so the notes are not precise. Writing and talking - you become too focused on the notes and not on the person you are talking to. Lots of good information is lost due to not making good use our of every contact...it might be the only contact you get on the subject. Why did YOU make a remark about a car being 5/10 miles away? You do know that Duane showed me a field (right off of 500) on the Northside of the highway. This was between the old Green Mtn Airpark and Orchards. I would say it was around Sifton...and you could see the power lines on the South side of 500. All of this had changed when I was out there in 2010 - and with the traffic I just could NOT find this stuff - but it is all here on the OLD maps. Back to the Vehicle. The airstrip was on the north side of 500 and and near the Orchards area and not too far from Sifton area and Green Mt. Airport. This looked like a long narrow field and he pointed out a tree line on the other side and told me there was an airstrip there for small planes. He said the field was used for the jumpers. The field had a fence around it in 1979 and he mentioned that at one time he knew someone who left a car thereHe also mention a field North of there owned by the same person, who owned that airstrip. One of the first things I asked Himmelsback back in 1996 was if they found any vehicles abandoned along 500. He seemed to think it insignifiant and I do NOT know if he relayed this to the ACTIVE FBI. The only vehicle he told me about was the one left at the PDX airport near the storage areas. Even Duane drove me past the airport in Portland and pointed out the Tower and the buildings. There was a car left at the airport near one of the storage places and Mr. H said it was a business man who left it...the man's name and his business was never revealed although I did ask. Do not know what kind of car or color on either of the above. I do not know why Duane pointed out those buildings. Both facts I have tried to check out. ONE thing I did learn was that the man who had the airstrip off of 500 & the one north of there - now is in OR and still has a field. This is a man Duane told me about on our way to Tahoe - he mentioned his OR operation, on our way to Tahoe. I have spoke to this guy and sent him pictures, but he has NOT responded...with a yay or nay.

It does matter how the money was delivered and how it was packaged. Verification of the container is very important...to the finder and to the jumper. Someone made a post on here NOT long ago claiming they talked to the bank people. Well, who ever it was sure did not do a very good job...the container was already a problem - would it have been a BIG deal to ask them to show a pic of what the container looked like. Of course NOT writers do NOT think on their feet they think on their ass. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

If I remember correctly (note I did NOT record him) is that he could see light or haze from the right window of Vancouver/Portland. I do not remember the words he said - but he had a reason to look to his right...away from the controls. He was probably changing co-ordinates. When the thread was trying to put the flight WEST of Portland - I went to the notes to make sure I had heard the Co-pilot correctly. My note specifically said to his right he saw the "lights" Haze that was Portland to his right. I did ask him about that again in the next to the last call...when he contacted me about re-connecting to Tina. I asked a brief question and the answer was the same. Our conversation did NOT center on the flight - it was about the bag and the crew and what he saw! He and I both described the same damn bag and this was when he told me that money did NOT come on that plane in a WHITE BANK BAG. We both describe the same damn bag - finishing each others sentence. From the strap the corners to the color. In 1996 I had asked MR. H about a bag I took to the mission about a week before he and I spoke to each other for the first time. He insisted it was a Whitish Bank Bag and the bag I was describing had NOTHING to do with the crime. Then YRS later (in the last 3 yrs) the co-pilot he and I described this same bag to each other. To damn many mistakes and the FBI's own doesn't know the real story. Tina KNOWS what that money went on that plane in - SHE carried it on to the plane. (She is not talking to anyone) I had surmised that she found Cooper something to put the bag into because he was upset about the container....because the illustrated pictures in the book show a bag with a rope around it. Then YRS later the co-pilot describe a bag to me and we finish each other sentence. So what did the Fricking money go out of that plane in? If Cooper asked for a Knapsack and they sent a white bank bag with no closure - he could have gotten mad and blew the plane up on the tarmack. SO WHAT was the money put into at the bank to transport it to the plane? What Himmelsbach claimed or what the Co-pilot saw go on the DAMNED plane. WHY all of the different stories and why all of the secrets? WHY didn't Himmelsbach tell me to go get that bag? Tina damn sure knew what that money went out of the plane in. Did she have to go into a convent, because the FBI pressured her and her faith would NOT let her continue the charade? Was it all the GAME playing the FBI did that drove Tina into seclusion? No do not tell anyone that or this - you have to keep this secret. Hell that is one piece of BAGGAGE for a single girl in her 20's to carry around - you THINK! It was NOT just Cooper who stole Tina's life! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ That was a great story and I am glad you shared it with us. Actually had a tear running down my cheek on the end. The newspapers had story after story today - but, your story was the best I read this Memorial Day. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Oh Okay - at least I did NOT misunderstand what he was telling me. So they are on top of Vancouver in those shots you posted. I do NOT like to fly! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Hell, I am more confused about where they think Cooper jumped than I ever was. Never was very clear on it! Basically ALL I have are the things Duane talked about and what he showed me. We do KNOW he was there for a couple of yrs but can't prove it - so parts of his coversation or ALL of it could have been his memories from those times...with "what-ever he did when he was in WA". When I found he had been arrested in Spokane prior 1950 that really pissed me off with the FBI. DID not and still do NOT know HOW they supposedly missed this important piece of infomation about Weber's past. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

The night and day pics do NOT seem to a layman to correlate with what the Co-pilot told me and others. The co-pilot was seated on the right side of the plane and he could see the lights (haze) from Vancouver and Portland on his right. Seem to me the plane had to be East of the pics you are showing for that to be true. I do repeated it back to him. I remember that conversation and another coversation about the flight and it did NOT change. I haven't spoke with him except for a handful of time over these 18 yrs. We did NOT discuss the flight path other than the first 2 times. The other calls 2 were brief and one was longer - BUT the flight was only discussed in the first 2 conversation. Of course I know nothing about planes or flight paths - he did try to keep it on an elementary level for me. Because of his health and his wife's health I do NOT bother him and no longer communicate other than a Christmas card - and I have not done that for a couple of yrs. I believe he also told others this same thing about seeing the haze of Vancouver and WA when he made a turn - that turn would have been further North than that picture. Perhaps I am a poor judge of distance in planes. From the simulation - seems like the plane had to be further EAST at that time...for what he told me to be true. I never could judge things from a plane and it is no different from a simulation. Things look so different from the air. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Here is part of the FBI map, I outlined where V-23 is and Lake Merwin. WELL, that puts him right over the old Grist Mill and the Cemetery Duane pointed out to me from the interstate and we did NOT go there. This is when the talked about knowing a woman from Mt.St.Helens, OR. I had dismissed all of that because of the other things East of there. I mentioned these things WAY back WHEN - in 1996 and until I convinced myself they did NOT correlate with the other places about where he buried something behind a shed where there used to be a tower. NOW, this is confusing to you guys and it is more confusing to me. If he landed in that area he would have to get over to the Heisson area for it (the things Duane told me) all to come together and I just do NOT see that - seems like a lot of distance to cover to me. Before I had heard WAY back when that the placard was found near an old cemetery, but do NOT remember where that came from. Toutle is a long way from the above areas...so I suppose I know little about the finding of the placard....and its exact location. The Grist Mill and an old cemetery near there - I did not make it to that cemetery on either of my visits. I have heard 2 different stories about the placard and it was discussed when I was out there in 2001, but they were going so fast - and everything was so rushed that it all runs together. Sluggo had suggested that Duane was out there after the crime with individuals looking for the money, but I could NOT find a time frame that fit into Weber's life. None of the old associates knew of any trip and his best friend he did NOT meet until 1972 and he knows nothing about such a trip. Like he said - Duane would have mentioned it to him or he would have known about it. They worked for the same company off and on, but the guy remained his friend till Duane's death and now calls me to make sure I am OK...and I call he and his wife on special occasions. All of this is very confusing! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Something is wrong here - perhaps it is the maps that the FBI provided and Sluggo provided that are wrong. The assimilation has the plane WEST of LaCenter when it was EAST of LaCenter. Hell, I can't read the damn things anyway. The map of Sluggos I am going by you can hardly read the areas it is over and planes did NOT turn at angles - they were curves. My Simple Simon mind sees a problem is with the angles which should be curves. Could or would a curve account for seconds lost/or gained for the route during the entire trip from Seattle to Portland? Maybe Simple Simon is not so dumb at all if turning the turns into curves and not angle accounts for seconds lost - how many such turns were on the entire trip from Seattle to Portland? Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Remember some posts back when I was examining the maps a few wks ago. I kept saying "Give me one Fricking minute". Just one minute North and it changes the landing zone. It puts Cooper right where he needed to be - at least for me and what I think from the 1979 trip and the 2010 trip. ONE fricking minute and then everything correlates with everything else - meaning the places he took me and what I now believe to have been the escape route used by Cooper. (I base this on things Duane showed me and told me - and my memory of the places he took me and the things he showed me - but did NOT mention Cooper in those areas). Cooper was mention only ONE time on that trip and I thought it was a joke. Considering the area at that time we were in - I think it may have been! My mind wants to go back but my body screams NO. When I was out there in 2010 - the areas looked so different, but I was able to associate time and space and that was a plus. Now there are areas I need to go back to but, that is physically impossible for me at this time. I may NEVER get to go back. Now I have to put things in the hands of anyone who can or cares to help. I can talk better than I can walk or sit at this computer. There are those who have my contact information so if I need to verbalize some of what I remember - please do NOT hesitate to call. Right now for some reason I am crying and I should be elated. A lot of mixed feelings and the pain medication I think intensifies emotions. Here is wishing AirTwardo a safe jump! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Thank You - as that is exactly what I was getting ready to do. Sign off and take my medication and try to sleep and tomorrow might be a better day. Pain has become the norm and my only escape is sleep...and weird dreams. Last night I woke up shouting - "NO you are not the right damn Dr...he's dead!" Seems like I was trying to find the Dr. who saw Duane during his meltdown in 1990 when he went on the kidney machine. The dream made NO sense! I think I was the one seeing the Dr for myself and then suddenly it was about Duane! Go figure after 18 yrs I really need a psychiatrist, but I also know what they do with one's memories. Last thing I need is for someone to confuse things even more. Good Night to All! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber