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I am selling my canopies to downsize. I just received moneygrams from some guy in the UK. 3925 was the amount I am only asking 1650 YES its a scam. Ok my question. Can I get in trouble if I send him a box of my SHIT????? I really want to!!!! Never give the gates up and always trust your rears!

Nope. Numbers are just that...numbers. I'm just one of those crazy people who ABSOLUTELY must know how everything works and why. I actually meant the difference with the main or with out the main included is not going to make that much of a difference 210/149 = 1.40 With main 203/149 = 1.36 without main My wing loading with or without main included Again in the grand scheme of things not a big difference I would still like to know for sure which is correct Never give the gates up and always trust your rears!

I always thought that you did add the main . I am getting a different answer from every person that I ask lol.People with Thousands of jumps and many years. I put a email into PD and Precision to see what they have to say. Never give the gates up and always trust your rears!

It was always my understanding that the weight of the main was _not_ included, but I have no references, and have no idea where to find any. Maybe some manufacturer (with a knowledge of the history) could enlighten us. After further investigation into this I am told you are right that its the weight suspended from the wing that is your wing loading. Its just easier to teach a student to put all gear on. Get on a scale and weigh yourself and divide it by the canopy size to get their wing loading. In the big picture does it really matter. We are talking about 7 pounds and that's not going to make much of a difference in most cases. So the right answer is NO you don't add it in. (At least that's what I'm told from several places) Never give the gates up and always trust your rears!

You add all gear you have on at the time of the jump in to the equation.( Helmet. rig and everything that goes with the rig , cameras ect.) What ever is going to be hanging from that said canopy including weight of the canopy is part of the wing loading Right. But is that wing itself part of its own loading?...Now my heads staring to hurt. YES now your head can stop hurting Never give the gates up and always trust your rears!

You add all gear you have on at the time of the jump in to the equation.( Helmet. rig and everything that goes with the rig , cameras ect.) What ever is going to be hanging from that said canopy including weight of the canopy is part of the wing loading Never give the gates up and always trust your rears!

Well I'm not sure why you would say that either. After the first tandem I had to pull at pre set Alt and the next one turns were a objective. Those are TLO's As far as SL I'm not familiar with the program. I will say there has to be TLO's as far as the delay and under canopy. What ever progression you do there are TLO's Never give the gates up and always trust your rears!

Well Marko the man has a point. Wow such personal attacks. He must of hit a sore spot Never give the gates up and always trust your rears!

Static line jumps do count. Not sure why they would tell you differently. Tandems count also. Never give the gates up and always trust your rears!

Base jumps don't count towards any skydiving license nor does ground launching of ANY kind! Balloons helicopters or any fix wing aircraft. Never give the gates up and always trust your rears!

I just think at either alt. its dangerous. They were not asking to get out at 400ft so I am not sure why that is even being talked about other then some thinking its safer. I also think they were going to do wing suite jump from between 1000ft-2000ft So if that was the case they would have more forward speed then anything else. I STILL think they should do a BASE demo if they want to do this kind of demo. Never give the gates up and always trust your rears!

I dunno. After I did the stoopid thing and stepped off out the door, I'd have about 600 ft to come to my senses and try to fix the stoopid. Exiting at 400 is way safer because you are starting with a speed of 0 so you would still have time for a delay. If you exited at 1000 speed up to terminal then deployed at 400 ft you are leaving absolutely no margin for error because you are only a couple seconds awayfrom impact I just think that's retarded. If you get out of the plane at a 1000ft you will have around 10 seconds before impact. Getting out at 400ft it would be less then 5 seconds. Please explain again how you will have more time from 400ft. and how it would be more safer? It takes around 1000ft to become terminal so the opening would not be a terminal opening from 1000ft. Wing suites would be a little longer but either way I thinks its all retarded My 2 cents Again, it's a matter of timing. We're comparing a hop and pop at 400 ft verses an exit at 1000 and popping at 400 ft correct? If you screw up your deployment at 400 ft after accelerating for the previous 600 ft the results could very well be disaterous. Even missing the pc or having a weak throw could very easily kill you. If you exit at 400 you don't have the speed and have time to react to the situation if need be. And missing your pc from 400ft with less then 3-4 seconds to impact cant be even more dangerous There are many variables of thing to go wrong at either alt. But to say getting out of a plane from 400ft is safer then 1000ft is crazy. Neither are safe but 400 no way!! Never give the gates up and always trust your rears!

I dunno. After I did the stoopid thing and stepped off out the door, I'd have about 600 ft to come to my senses and try to fix the stoopid. Exiting at 400 is way safer because you are starting with a speed of 0 so you would still have time for a delay. If you exited at 1000 speed up to terminal then deployed at 400 ft you are leaving absolutely no margin for error because you are only a couple seconds awayfrom impact I just think that's retarded. If you get out of the plane at a 1000ft you will have around 10 seconds before impact. Getting out at 400ft it would be less then 5 seconds. Please explain again how you will have more time from 400ft. and how it would be more safer? It takes around 1000ft to become terminal so the opening would not be a terminal opening from 1000ft. Wing suites would be a little longer but either way I think its all retarded. They should do a BASE demo if the want that kind of alt. My 2 cents Never give the gates up and always trust your rears!

$2500 for that is he smoking crack?????? I can go to any department store and get one cheap Never give the gates up and always trust your rears!

People who work at non uspa dropzones do have follow the BSR's of USPA if they want to keep their ratings!! A fun jumper is different. The instructors are still required. As far as Demo's waivers are done by FAA and why would they ask for a membership as long as you are qualified. Never give the gates up and always trust your rears!

HEY RED BULL TEAM where ya at???? Inquiring minds would like to hear your points on this. I am not sure how you could run for BOD's and not respond to ANY of this? Who's interest do you have in running? (I am not trying to be a wise ass at all) What eduction are you going to implement by getting out of a plane at 1000ft and deploying at 400ft? What other areas are you going to change for the good of education!!! I might actually vote for you if I hear some of your ideas!!!!! Never give the gates up and always trust your rears!

here is a play list of all the video's http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=5ABEA73C9118DAF5 Never give the gates up and always trust your rears!

Isn't that just for property? How would that help them? Never give the gates up and always trust your rears!

So my question is how is doing a jump from a plane and deploying at 400ft good for the sport? How would that better it? How would that bring more people into skydiving? The other big question is are they doing it for the sport or their sponsors? If something went wrong it really hurt us! Never give the gates up and always trust your rears!

THIS IS THEIR REASONING A Catalyst For Change: Group Sets Their Sights On The USPA Board of Directors By Luke Seile Mem No. 221735 Motivated by their passion for the sport and a common goal of making changes, a group of experienced skydivers have assembled to make a run at the USPA Board of Directors in the upcoming November election. “A group of us started to really notice the need to revisit and update a lot of the USPA rules and procedures,” said Charles Bryan , 17 year veteran of skydiving, former DZO and National Director Candidate. With that in mind the core group began to reach out to other professionals and friends within the industry. What they found was a like-minded group of individuals, with varying backgrounds, wanting to help evolve the governing body of the sport. Through moderator Eli Thompson, co-creator of FlyBoyz and National Director Candidate , the group began to debate the important issues affecting the Skydiving Industry; three common goals began to immerge: Rejuvenate the Board of Directors with a diverse group of qualified, motivated jumpers with varied experience in the industry. Grow the sport. Work to bring in new participants, money and public attention to the sport. Focus on education not regulation. Develop programs above and beyond the current “student status” to help advance the individual pilots skills while improving the safety and proficiency of the sport as a whole. Eli Thompson explained, “What really drives our group is that we don’t want to see skydiving just scrape by and survive. We want to get in there and help the sport prosper.” With concern for the health of the sport, the group has attracted individuals from across the United States. Each individual has their own focus but an overwhelming sense of urgency to work out different challenges facing the industry. Current board member Jessie Farrington has a focus on individual jumpers stating, “If people want to stay in the air with as little interference as possible we need people [on the board] who are willing to make changes.” Making changes to the regulations and procedures is what skydiving needs right now. Every year the sport evolves; from new equiptment and technology to more advanced flying: It is time that the rules that govern what we do evolve with it. The first step is actually voting for the people that you feel will do a good job advancing the sport. “We need to go back to the roots of what the USPA Board of Directors was created for: It’s not about arguing, it’s about growth..” states Eric Deren who is running for a seat as National Director. Deren continues, “Over the past years, the USPA Board of Directors has had moments of greatness and moments of failure. We want to help create more moments of greatness.” Candidates for change are: National Board of Directors: Eli Thompson Charles Bryan Mike Swanson Jon DeVore Luke Aikins Kirk Verner Eric Deren Cisco Neri Northwest: Jessie Farrington Pacific: Chris Q Western Scott Smith Central Rook Nelson South East Kyle Stark Mountain Miles Daisher Eastern Brian Germain Never give the gates up and always trust your rears!

That's right. Base jumpers jump from 400 feet. NOT skydivers. And you don't need an airplane to base jump. This would be classified as a skydive not a base jump due to the use of an airplane. Why not just get a crane and jump off that if they are so intent on doing this? Or a tethered balloon? That would be considered a aircraft wouldn't it Never give the gates up and always trust your rears!

In the U.S. A. Students Students who have not jumped within the preceding 30 days should make at least one jump under the direct supervision of an appropriately rated USPA Instructor. B. Licensed skydivers 1. Skydivers returning after a long period of inactivity encounter greater risk that requires special consideration to properly manage. 2. Care should be taken to regain or develop the knowledge, skills, and awareness needed to satisfactorily perform the tasks planned for the jump. 3. Jumps aimed at sharpening survival skills should precede jumps with other goals. C. Changes in procedures 1. If deployment or emergency procedures are changed at any time, the skydiver should be thoroughly trained and practice under supervision in a harness simulator until proficient. 2. Ground training should be followed by a solo jump which includes several practice sequences and deployment higher than normal. 3. The jumper should repeat ground practice at short intervals, such as before each weekend's jump activities, and continue to deploy higher than normal until thoroughly familiar with the new procedures. D. Long lay-offs 1. Jumpers should receive refresher training appropriate for their skydiving history and time since their last skydive. a. Jumpers who were very experienced and current but became inactive for a year or more should undergo thorough training upon returning to the sport. b. Skydivers who historically jump infrequently should review training after layoffs of even less than a year. 2. Skydiving equipment, techniques, and procedures change frequently. a. During recurrency training following long periods of inactivity, jumpers may be introduced to new and unfamiliar equipment and techniques. b. Procedures change to accommodate developments in equipment, aircraft, flying styles, FAA rules, and local drop zone requirements. 3. Returning skydivers require thorough practical training in the following subject areas: a. aircraft procedures b. equipment c. exit and freefall procedures d. canopy control and landings e. emergency procedures A License USPA A-license holders who have not made a freefall skydive within 60 days should make at least one jump under the supervision of a currently rated USPA instructional rating holder until demonstrating altitude awareness, freefall control on all axes, tracking, and canopy skills sufficient for safely jumping in groups B License USPA B-license holders who have not made a freefall skydive within the preceding 90 days should make at least one jump under the supervision of a USPA instructional rating holder until demonstrating the ability to safely exercise the privileges of that license. C and D License USPA C- and D-license holders who have not made a freefall skydive within the preceding six months should make at least one jump under the supervision of a USPA instructional rating holder until demonstrating the ability to safely exercise the privileges of that license. All this info came from the SIM here http://www.uspa.org/SIM/Read/Section5/tabid/168/Default.aspx#970 Never give the gates up and always trust your rears!

Read this http://www.facebook.com/group.php?sid=f478f93b91355ac3fdb415c239405ca3&refurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fs.php%3Fn%3D-1%26k%3D200000010%26init%3Ds%253Agroup%26q%3DUspa%2Belections%2B2008%26sid%3Df478f93b91355ac3fdb415c239405ca3&gid=28534156601 And this http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=3360755;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;;page=unread#unread Never give the gates up and always trust your rears!

My question is why would they want to get out that low??? Non skydivers have know idea whats going on. There will be very little if any free fall. You can see people falling from a plane from lets say 3000 feet. I think that's better then 400ft. People on the ground will get a chance to see the free fall part and see them deploy. From 400ft all they are going to see is parachute open. No free fall. Whats the point of the demo?? What are they demonstrating ? If they want to do demo's like that do BASE DEMOS!!!!!! Never give the gates up and always trust your rears!

yea money is a issue this year. I like to make at yeast two trips a year and this year its just not happening Never give the gates up and always trust your rears!