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    The missions can be very similar as well. What if someone is going after one of your loved ones with a knife? They are only a few feet from them and you are 20 feet away. Would you blast away with a double barrel shotgun? I would rather have a nice big bore semi auto hand gun with plenty of capacity to spare,since there is no gaurantee that 1,2,3,or even 10 hits are going to stop someone immediately,but it's better than the alternative of watching someone get stabbed,or getting stabbed trying to save someone. As far as full auto weapons are concerned,they waste alot of lead and are only good for spraying a wall of bullets at a large group of charging men or vehicles without great accuracy,and I see no need for them outside of military use,or for the secret sevice use defending against well trained groups of heavily armed attackers.
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    It's sad.
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    I never said they do not have shotguns. I asked if Biden feels the double barrel is the best for defense,then why do secret service personel use semi auto pistols and rifles,and full auto weapons as well? I know they have everything,but why carry pistols and rifles if the double barrel shotgun is best? I'll tell you why. It's because no single weapon is the best for every task. Shotguns are bad ass,but maybe you do not want something that sprays a wall of lead all in one shot. Maybe you might need something that is better at hitting a smaller target and is easier to control if follow up shots are needed. And by the way,you know I was kidding about letting you shoot me with the birdshot at 200 yards earlier right? Not the hotdogs and beer though. I know you don't remember me nor do I expect you to. You are a good guy and you looked pretty cool when you and youre wife came to that holloween party dressed like ketchup and mustard with the dog wearing a bun
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    So you are saying that because the secret service trains with shotguns that it's the preferred weapon of the secret service?Also big difference between the shotguns they use and a double barrel. I'm not buying it. I bet they primarily use semi auto hand guns and bull pupped rifles when close to the person being shielded,and also utilize a few snipers here and there on occasion. I'm not saying they never use shotguns,just not as much as you imply. They use mission specific weapons for the task at hand,just like the military,or a hunter would.
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    I personally do not own a shot gun. I used to years ago when I was hunting turkey,grouse,and quail. My favorite was the 20 gauge although a 12 gauge would have been good on the turkey,I still had good luck with the 20. Shotguns are menacing for sure,but you run the risk of hitting alot more than just your target unless at very,very close range. I like slow heavy,expanding handgun loads that give good accuracy and wounding potential without as much risk of overpenetration. That being said,the sound of a 12 gauge pump in the dark is unmistakable if you know it. I hope I never have to shoot anyone with anything,or hurt anyone with anything,but like the ability to do so if being attacked. What it all comes down to is personal preference,and mission specifics as to what someone wants to use. One type of weapon is not the best for every person or every situation. Once again it is our 2nd amendment right to have these weopons,not just for defense against personal attacks,but to prevent tyranny.
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    Come on now,a shot gun is great for spraying a big patch of lead at close range,but as you said yourself,they need pin point accuracy. You do not get pinpoint accuracy with a double barrel shotgun. If you touch off a double barrel shot gun in a crowd of people to hit one guy,you could hit several poeple. Shotguns are used primarily for hunting birds because they spray a large wall of lead at them as they are flying by,or in many cases away.
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    >they are better shots than just about anyone else you've ever met. I know some pretty damn good competitive shooters with handguns,shotguns,and rifles. My uncle used to be one. I can hold my own with hanguns,and can shoot ok at closer ranges with a rifle(300 yards),but I'm definitely not sniper grade,but I doubt most secret service men are either. You are right though,it takes balls to play human shield,and I do not blame those guys for living it up. I'm pretty sure they get some pretty good pay,health benefits, and retirement as well. Back to the reason for the post. If the double barrel shotgun is the best for defense,why does'nt the secret service use them more?
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    No disrespect intended,just being realistic. There have been past incidents,even recently. And since you brought it up,they are pretty much human shields above all else. I like the way you use liberal indignation to paint me as a bad person though.
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    >probably about as much as a gunsite needs a skydiving forum. You have probably never been to a chute and shoot have you? They are alot of fun.
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    Using a firearm is not rocket science dude. It is far easier to shoot a semi auto rifle with accuracy than you think,and the secret service are not magical,mythical creatures.They are most likely far better at drinking and picking up whores than they are at shooting. In fact I bet many of them have been trained by NRA weapons instructors,just like you can be trained if you have the money,and will to do so. The police often have semi auto hand guns, and semi auto high capacity rifles,as well as 12 gauge pump shotguns,though I've never seen a long gun on a motorcycle around here. Not saying they don't have shotguns on police bikes,just never noticed one myself.
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    I'm pretty sure I've never seen a secret service man using a double barrel shotgun for a service weapon. You see them with,submachine guns,semi auto hand guns,semi auto and full auto high capacity rifles in 308 and 5.56 cal,but never seen any footage of them with double barrel shotguns. I bet they are even using some full auto pistol variants as well.
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    How about all the juvenile perps in big cities who are usually back on the streets within hours of being arrested,for crimes like car theft,home invasions,and assault? The guy that got shot in the face five times by the mother in georgia,had just gotten out of jail after serving a very short sentence,and he had a history of violent criminal behavior.
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    I wonder if I could import some. I'm planning on doing alot of biking this year.
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    Sorry,I've drank my third cup of coffee and I have not flung myself at the dirt since november,and once again it is raining sideways. If I ever make it back to Zhills I will buy you a couple of loaded hotdogs and a beer. I'll even let you shoot me in the back with birdshot from 200 yardsno choke though.
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    >Arbitrary reinterpretation is tyranny. Thank you! You are the man
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    >Except its tainted with bute,ketamine and other veterinary drugs including strong steroids. Even better,eat some meat and get into the clubbing mood, and then bulk up a little. Hell with all the added party favors, and performance enhancers, they should charge more money for that stuff.
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    I hear bugs give everything a fine nutty flavor,kinda like peanut butter. I try to cook the e coli out of everything myself, since those are the bugs that really matter the most.
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    Hell yes,if no one else wants it then give it to the hungry. It's not tainted with prions(mad cow) so whats the problem. I have eaten horse meat when I was a kid and my family was having hard times. We never took government hand outs,but we were pretty poor for a spell. I remember eating ketchup and margarine sandwiches for dinner alot in those days. Hell, I would eat horse again and not bat an eye.
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    >Many people are carrying reserves that will only insure an open casket if they ever have a landing where they are incapacitated and don't flare the reserve. Yep,and I've seen a few injuries even when they did flare their tiny reserves.
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    My container is actually built to take a 181-M as I had it custom built. The manufacturer would not make the reserve container any bigger since the main container would be sized down to 120. So my 181 is snug but it has worked just fine the one time it was used.
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    You think that registration will stop gun crime? I don't think it will at all. Criminals will simply buy guns that are smuggled into the country(we share alot of border) and can't be traced back to any source of origin, if manufactured by small groups working in their garages,or use the registration list to steal guns. The US could not even keep track of a special inventory of weapons that they tried to use in the FAST AND FURIOUS debacle until they had already been used on US agents and other innocents. You make it harder for law abiding gun owners to keep guns and easier for criminals to find the houses of gun owners to steal guns if anything. You claim there is a huge number of gun deaths,yet if you look at it as a percentage,the total number of gun deaths is not even 1%,not 0.1%,not 0.01%,not 0.001%,not even 0.0001%,but more like 0.00005% of the population.
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    I think that loading a reserve greater than 1.2 to 1 is not a good deal no matter what experience level. That being said,I load mine at 1.4 to 1 because my container is sized for a 120-150 main and the biggest reserve I could shoe horn in at the time was a 181. I would use a 218 reserve if it fit, and my main is a 135. You should think about landing your reserve unconscious,down wind,or into a tight little backyard. Fly the biggest reserve you can squeeze in,regardless of the main,and don't suck it into the dirt at pull time.
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    >If the plan has been to confiscate guns,then why didn't Obama just issue a stoppage to gun sales? Like you say,he can't,but I bet he would if he could. Instead,he and others who would like to take all the weapons,just take little jabs at the 2nd amendment,like a boxer wearing down their opponent,until they can get that knockout blow in.
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    You are right,if the government simply wanted to take out any sole individual,they could do so with little effort,but it would be far more difficult to take out millions of pissed of well armed citizens on there own home turf. Take a look at the backward hill billies in afganistan,and pakistan, the people in somalia,the viet cong,ect,who all were faced with vastly superior weapons and professional military forces. If they can fight back,what makes you think americans could not? Why is it that you insinuate that anyone who supports the second amendment for the reasons it was written is out to single handedly wage war on the US government for whatever twacked out reasons?You liken people who do not agree with you to mad bombers. Do you work for MSNBC? As far as the constitution is concerned,each amendment is subject to alot of different interpretations.
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    It would be hard to use your house to resist an oppressive government,you might be able to use your car,and your kids might also give resistance to tyranny. To be realistic,it makes resistance to oppression very difficult if the oppressors can shoot the resistance without fear of the resistance shooting back. It has happened in the past,and history often repeats itself. I know that the gun debate has been rode again,and again,but the left wing gun banners are not relenting in their quest to rid us of our 2nd amendment right. I am not left or right,but I'm a realist I believe in womens rights,gay rights,minority rights,and our constitutional rights as they were written.