DanG
-
Content
6,580 -
Joined
-
Last visited
-
Feedback
0%
Everything posted by DanG
-
So it's not a crime to put together a security you know is going to fail, and then convince less sophisticated investors to buy it, all the while betting with your own money that the security will fail? I think the crime is fraud. - Dan G
-
Finally the truth comes out. You don't want to torture people to gain intelligence, you want retaliation. How very, very Christian of you. As usual. - Dan G
-
I did what they call SERE-B, which is just classroom stuff. I don't claim to have done SERE. That would be like someone who sat through ground school claiming to be a skydiver. I know a bunch of people who did do SERE. Like I said, the training is for those who are likely (I suppose I should have said "most likely") to find themselves behind enemy lines. It is not, as some have implied, a course on how to torture people. From my understanding (from the outside) most of the training is focused on the Survive, Evade, and Escape. Resistance is only one aspect. - Dan G
-
Poor form to post PMs. Very poor form. Stop being such a whiner. - Dan G
-
Right. At 200 jumps you might be ready to be a fun jumper with a camera. It takes a lot more experience to become a "camera flyer". - Dan G
-
Do you realize that Precision Rigging doesn't make the Cypres? That ad you've quoted is misleading (actually it's downright bad) but it wasn't created by Airtec. Airtec ads seem to be much more sophisticated and accurate. - Dan G
-
SEALs and others who go through SERE training are not interrogators. That's not their job. Interrogators may go through SERE as well, I don't know, but the majority of people who go through it are certainly not being trained on how to do it. SERE stands for Survive Evade Resist Escape. There are different levels of training, with the real stuff being reserved for operators and pilots who are likely to find themselves behind enemy lines. It is not a how-to course on torture. - Dan G
-
I'm assuming other people who have not made up their mind, or are at least open to the possibility that they are wrong, are reading this. - Dan G
-
I did not hear him talk about it. The fact that he has been through it gives credence to his viewpoint on whether it is torture or not, but it doesn't change the fact that the context of the action matters. Let me be clear: I'm not arguing with you about whether waterboarding is torture or not. That is the braoder argument, but this particular thread is more focused. In this thread, I'm arguing with your reasoning that it can't be torture because we do it to our own troops. That argument doesn't stand. You can still think that it is not torture because it doesn't hurt enough, or whatever, but basing your opinion on the fact that we do it to our own is not tenable. - Dan G
-
Or course they don't want to be waterboarded. However, they know when they apply for their job it's going to happen, but they also know that it will not result in them drowning. They also know that they can opt out. Sure there will be consequences if they opt out, but they always have that choice. They choose to get waterboarded because it is part of their training. They may also view it is useful training if they ever get captured and the enemy tortures them. We don't do it to them for fun, there is a higher purpose, and they accept that. The boxer doesn't want to get hit in the face either. He knows, however, that getting hit is part of the sport. The point is, if he wants to quit at any time, that option is available. The assault victim on the street doesn't have that option, that's one reason why the situation is so different. - Dan G
-
Your explanation was that context didn't matter, but then you finally agreed that context does matter, at least when it comes to boxing. My question is why context doesn't matter when we're talking about waterboarding, but it does matter when we're talking about boxing? Or sex/rape as Wendy pointed out? - Dan G
-
As usual, a stunningly well thought out reply. Why is it not? - Dan G
-
The exact, fucking EXACT same situation exists for a soldier at SERE school. To claim otherwise is to ignore reality. - Dan G
-
You can stick your fingers in your ears and ignore reality all you want. It doesn't change reality. Is it assault and battery when a boxer punches another boxer during a fight? If not, why not? - Dan G
-
Um no, it's not. It's training. If the soldier signed up for it and knows that he can quit at any time, it is not torture. My analogy stands. You have no reply because you know that the context of an action matters. To claim otherwise is completely ridiculous. - Dan G
-
So a boxer punching another boxer in the face during a bout is assault and battery? If the situation can't change the nature of an action, I guess you'll have to agree that it is. - Dan G
-
Well reasoned reply, as always. Can you explain why I am wrong? - Dan G
-
And the problem that you, and other pseudo-believers, have is that you want to pick and choose the teachings that fit your worldview. The Golden Rule is inconvenient, so you ignore it. Love thy neighbor is repulsive when your neighbor is gay or a Muslim, so you ignore it. Walk the walk, or stop talking the talk. There's nothing subtle about that at all. - Dan G
-
Although this has been explained countless time, I'll put it down one more time for the record. Waterboarding is torture not only because of the pain it causes, but because the victim really believes that they are about to drown. It's not torture in SERE school because the soldiers know that they are safe from lasting bodily harm. I fully realize that you are incapable of understanding that very simple distinction, but I write in down again because reasonable people may be reading this. - Dan G
-
Stop claiming to be a devout Christian, and I'll stop pointing out your hypocrisy. Deal? If you are really so concerned about your immortal soal, and the soul of your fellow man, the "we are at war" bullshit wouldn't fly. The temporal concerns about revenge against a worldly enemy should pale in comparison to the everlasting battle against evil, even when said evil drapes itself in the American flag. You're not a Christian. You espouse none of the teachings of Jesus Christ except John 3:16. The rest of it doesn't fit with your ultra-conservative moral worldview, so you toss it. I'll stop pointing that out when you either change your attitute, or stop preaching about something you don't believe in. - Dan G
-
The country thanks you. Clearly, without you and your brother, America would be nothing but mouth breaters who can only aspire to the fry cook position at Denny's. Are you really as arrogant in real life as you come off as here? - Dan G
-
That's got nothing to do with what you said. You said: Regardless of whether waterboarding is torture, you have come down quite clearly on the side of using torture on prisoners. How very Christian of you. - Dan G
-
How close do you have to be to a bullet to hear it go by?
DanG replied to skydiver30960's topic in Speakers Corner
I'm not arguing with you. The other poster related how they were taught to count the time between hearing the round go by, and hearing the report of the rifle. He wasn't talking about seeing the muzzle flash. - Dan G -
How close do you have to be to a bullet to hear it go by?
DanG replied to skydiver30960's topic in Speakers Corner
Yeah, but bullets don't travel at the speed of light. Back to the OP: don't people hunt deer with subsonic deer slugs out of shotguns? Could that be what happened? - Dan G -
That makes no sense. Either he's not accomplishing anything, or he's doing too much. So which is it? - Dan G