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Go to www.skydivingmagazine.com for a small picture of the cover. steveOrino

So what did the eastern mindset of the Jew writer mean when he wrote "satan" (accuser). And how do you know that? If you are referring to some Roman Catholic teachings that say Satan was an angel created by God for the purpose to temp man and give him a choice between good and evil, then I see your point, despite how invalid I believe that particular part of Roman Catholic theology to be. steveOrino

False Inventions What inventions are you referring to. steveOrino

false. example: Man desired to fly long before any means to satisfy that desire existed. (ofc you can always get into 'absolute existence') The means to satisfy the desire for flight existed ... the birds had it ... we needed to adapt in order to accomplish that desire. Had we never seen flight then I might agree withyour example. But since we saw flight ... it existed. steveOrino

Creatures are not born with desires unless satisfaction for those desires exists. Is that true? Please explain your answer if possible. steveOrino

Huh? Got any examples? I've seen stuff in the press where he was really flamed by blacks for some of his comments. Walt One of MANY examples he is not a racist that blames Blacks problems on Whitey. That person that does is Jesse Jackson: BILL COSBY SLAMMED FOR COMMENTS IN NEW ORLEANS by Jim Kouri, CPP April 6, 2006 At a rally attended by Revs. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton on Saturday, comedian and actor Bill Cosby urged residents of hurricane-ravaged New Orleans, Louisiana, to "cleanse" themselves from the city's history of crime, violence, drugs and teen pregnancies. Cosby has come underfire by the civil-rights establishment for comments across the US in which he's told young blacks to turn away from influences in rap music, stop violence and underage sex, and focus more on education and morality. Cosby told the crowd, "It's painful, but we can't cleanse ourselves unless we look at the wound. Ladies and gentlemen, you had the highest murder rate, unto each other. You were dealing drugs to each other. You were impregnating our 13-, 12-, 11-year-old children. What kind of a village is that? At the rally in N.O. -- a city devastated by Hurricane Katrina last August -- Cosby told 2,000 people in front of the Convention Center of his desire for the city's society to have an "extreme make-over." As is usual, Cosby is being slammed by most civil-rights leaders and black pundits who claim his comments hurt "the cause." They've attacked his speeches as being insensitive and wrong. "They don't like it when [Cosby] puts the blame on pathological behavior in the black community rather than the shop-worn tactic of blaming "whitey" for the problems in black neighborhoods," claims Mike Baker a political analyst. "The crowd and the speakers expected the usual 'George Bush' bashing and racism allegations. Cosby gave them a mirror and they didn't like what they saw." According to the latest crime statistics for the embattled city, violent crime is on the rise once again. Some can be attributed to illegal aliens coming to New Orleans for jobs or outsiders looking to exploit the still chaotic environment, but much of the crime is occurring within the black community. While people such as Rev. Jesse Jackson has voiced concerns over Cosby's speeches, in the past Jackson himself has chastised African-Americans in poor neighborhoods for what came to be known as "black-on-black crime." steveOrino

Do you really equate ancient Jewish writings with western thought? steveOrino

Nice shots. I wish the USPA calendar had more like these. It always amazes me what they select as the 12 pictures for their calendar. steveOrino

Yeah, that would be my response about "ex-Christians" Thanks for delving more into that. I didn't want to spend that much time on it. I have 300 pages to read before Thursday's psychology class. steveOrino

My bad. A more appropiate example would have been Dr. Ravi Zacharias. steveOrino

First, let's back up and see what I posted. I asked what do atheists think of his "change of mind"? I never implied it meant atheism was proven wrong. I was only asking for their thoughts. steveOrino

Let me wade through all this first. http://www.secweb.org/index.aspx?action=viewAsset&id=369 steveOrino

Sorry, but none of those are noteworthy in Christian circles of academia. Heck, many Christians believe the Church of Christ is a cult, with all their baptism necessary for salvation, and their belief they are the only right Christian denomination. Have you never heard those jokes? Peter: Over there are the Baptist, and behind them are the Nazarenes. Over there are the Church of Christ. Keep your voice down they think they are the only ones here. Maybe Flew wasn't a noteworthy atheist. I never heard of him. My son just metioned it to me one day in passing. He is a philosophy major. steveOrino

Is "none of the above" an agnostic? Or are you like me and don't like labels? steveOrino

so what "evidence" did he find that he couldn't find in the previous 81 years? Cheers, T The article: clicky steveOrino

I bet I could make $25K selling a book about my adventure. steveOrino

Prof, write a dozen books on Christianity as a believer and be on the first page of googling "renowned Christian" then convert and I'll tell ya. steveOrino

Dave, did you watch Man in Black II last night? Dave, Dave, All hail Dave, Keeper of the key ... steveOrino

So, if an atheist who has written many books (although Tink never read them) switches beliefs, it is out of senility, fear of unknown, fear of death ... What about his own statement, that he found evidence to become a deist? steveOrino

Personally, I wouldn't want to be an USA soldier in Iraq when they begin to downsize the USA military force. steveOrino

Tell here she never could keep a restroom (water closet, or whatever you guys call it) clean. steveOrino

I never said it did. I only asked what atheist thought of his conversion. I realize he is not following any earthly religion, just stating that he previously stated if evidence for a God existed he'd believe. Evidently, he believes such evidence exists, and now he considers himself a theist. I'm also curious to what you guys think about his comment on Genesis 1. What is his comment on Genesis 1? FLEW: Yes. I am open to it, but not enthusiastic about potential revelation from God. On the positive side, for example, I am very much impressed with physicist Gerald Schroeder’s comments on Genesis 1. (10) That this biblical account might be scientifically accurate raises the possibility that it is revelation steveOrino

Any atheist here on dropzone.com.

The run of the mill religous person? Not much. However, if a noted religous person such as Billy Graham changed his mind, I'd certainly be curious as to why. steveOrino

I never said it did. I only asked what atheist thought of his conversion. I realize he is not following any earthly religion, just stating that he previously stated if evidence for a God existed he'd believe. Evidently, he believes such evidence exists, and now he considers himself a theist. I'm also curious to what you guys think about his comment on Genesis 1. steveOrino