steveorino

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  1. YOU said the prebiblical records show a reference to the god(s), patriarchs of the bible. I noted the Bible records there were men of God that were NOT Israelites (descendants of Abraham) Melchizedek and Job were two of them. Melchizedek came from the lands you say the tablets are from. I think I have proven my point.
  2. Mentions of God before the Bible?? Makes sense to me. The Priest/King Melchizedek (Gen14) blessed Abraham. Melchizedek came from a canaanite land. God was working with people outside Judaism long before Abraham. Thanks for your validation of scripture. steveOrino
  3. The weight you give to a immoral pope is confounding. Do you really think there are that many non-catholic Christians that give two cents to what that pope said?? If I was your counselor I'd let you continue in your own death denial, mainly because you come across as delusional, so there would be more pressing issues to address. One of your very first post is my favorite: "matter is merely energy condensed to slow vibration, there is no such thing as death, life is just a dream, we are all one conciousness experiencing itself subjectively." Now I'm getting close to personal attacks so I'll stop here. Keep posting Hairy, it is good to know there are guys like you out there on the "other" side. If they were all like John or Bill, it might be a little harder to debate. steveOrino
  4. Hairy, you are entertaining at times. One google search of your infamous Pope Leo quote brings some interesting reading. http://www.tektonics.org/lp/popeleox.html I love where it says:The [This] quote is used mostly by skeptics of the intellectual low rent district -- people like Acharya S, Brooks Trubee, and deceased Nazi-pusher Revilo P. Oliver, who will accept anything that makes Christianity look bad, even at the cost of selling their integrity steveOrino
  5. You mean the endless articles full of tirades of atheists? No, I read some, but when you inundate me with your plethora of athesist websites, like you do on the forum threads, I tend to ignore them. steveOrino
  6. Cool, I get to be a martyr for Christ. Now, who is delusional?
  7. Parachutist and comic collections (C&H, Far Side, etc) I don't want any "heavy" reading while I'm on the throne. steveOrino
  8. Silly request I admit -- mostly off the cuff. But how does that equate me to one who believes that "self is the only thing that can be verified?" steveOrino
  9. Sorry, but I don't read all your posts, especially those on a different thread (especially one with 5,000 replies!) I didn't "insist". I made an off the cuff response - hardly an empirical command. And this effects me, how? steveOrino
  10. What no posted links???? You disappointment me so! steveOrino
  11. One could only wish, but don't hold your breath. steveOrino
  12. FINALLY, you are starting to get it! I know some of my Christian bothers and sisters believe there is a lot of evidence to validate their belief, but the fact remains, despite the evidence or lack thereof, faith is required to experience God. Hebrews 11:6 in the Message paraphrase: It's impossible to please God apart from faith. And why? Because anyone who wants to approach God must believe both that he exists and that he cares enough to respond to those who seek him steveOrino
  13. Well seeing the two pictures and the video, it is obviously it is all about the TM, not the student. Bad idea for many reasons besides. steveOrino
  14. Exactly. Then again, too relaxed shows a lack of confidence ] I'm not disagreeing, but please explain. What do you mean by "too relaxed?" steveOrino
  15. I did not mean to communicate to you that others made no contribution, simply that we should not be so quick to discount the works of antiquity simply because it pales to our contribution. Give the Israelites this. They wrote books (Bible) that has influenced billions of people.
  16. I'm not sure why we are debating this? I never said I could do without any of those things. In fact, because I have grown acustom to them, I "need" them. You on the other hand do not need ministers, preists, rabbis etc. That's cool. However, I do know quite a few "mounatin men" when I lived in Alaska for seven years that would love to have nothing of those things you claimed were necessary. They would love nothing better than to have a subsistance lifestyles like the Inuit did before white men came along. I believe you started this silly debate when you said I should pray for the lights to come on. I was merely pointing out that "most" people have a need for religous leaders in a time of crisis just as "most" people have a need for engineers and scientists. steveOrino
  17. Sorry, busy laughing -- I saw your statement, but what was the question? Oh, I see. I don't remember saying we could do w/o any of those things. I thought it was you that said YOU could do fine w/o ministers, rabbis, etc. my bad. steveOrino
  18. The marijuana in the back seat is not mine, it is his (point to passenger) steveOrino
  19. I can't help but think that is a very narrow minded view. steveOrino
  20. By BIBLICAL definition; (Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see. Hebrews 11:1) faith is NOT objective. Those Christians who claim there is undisputed truth that needs no faith are making a wrong assumption IMHO Some of us would do better to exercise our intelligence, and others would be better served if we exercised our faith. steveOrino
  21. No problem. As I understand it, it isn't my job to convince you, but to offer my experience if you ask. Colossians 4:6 steveOrino
  22. You guys sound like the atheists version of the JWs that come to my door to tell me my faith is all wrong. steveOrino