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Ever hear of the Doppler Tone and Visual Estimation. Ever hear of the three must in verifying speed with a speed measuring instrument to prevent false readings. The RADAR does not utilize vibration to determine speed. The speed is MEASURED by calculating the time it takes for a WAVELENGTH to travel from the antenna to the target and back to the antenna. And by the way, a vibration from speaker will not register speed. The tuning fork doesn't calabrate by vibration. The prongs move rapidly at a MEASURED distance allowing the attennas frequency WAVELENGTHS (not vibrations) to be measured. __________________________________________________ Yes , Thank you officer, Did you hear the prosecutions' scientific witness when he was discussing radar ? Did you hear Mr. Zenister when he said;"1. unless he was VERY close he would be unable to determine that the vibration of her vehicle could possibly be causing his instrument to read incorrectly. " This statement from the prosecutions' own *expert* witness implies that vibrations from the vehicle *can* cause the "instruments to read incorrectly". Did the officer on the scene, the one making the arrest ,know of the limitations of the equipment? If not , shouldn't he have known? Why didn't he know of the equipments limitations? Shouldn't a prudent law enforcement officer consider *all of the facts* before tossing around ACCUSATIONS and making Arrests of the law abiding citizens? Considetring the Prosecutions testimony, can you still say ,without a shadow of a doubt , that this nice BLACK woman was speeding? Blues, Cliff Blood of Melenik II

Quote*** "If the book contains the definition you describe then the book is wrong" Yes Cliff, Merrian-Webster must be wrong if you said so. What do THEY know. Whatever you say is the only real truth, at least in your own personal reality which obviously differs greatly to the rest of us. "Treetop" why don't you look at a Wwebsters from 1940? You'll see the definition of "racism" I provided. If the word hasn't changed since then the * true* definition hasn't either. Sure ,modern dictionaries change *their* definitions with the political correctness of the times. George Orwqell had something to say about "group speak". I don't know why I'm even bothering as this is all about your "Most Excellent Entertainment" anyway. Blues, Cliff

QuoteEagle-dung,] __________________________________________________ Is that a personal attack? Your posts sound like those of that moron Treetop on the other site. Are you he? Blues, Cliff Wisdom of Soloman , Beau to Sweet Penelope Purebread

[reply It's up to a judge to determine if she was pulled over without probable cause, which is where the radar accuracy would be considered, NOT at the time of the stop. And as I stated ,I would get her off. Ya see, no court in the US is any longer legitimate. Instead of upholding the Rights of Citizens, they deny Citizens their Rights at entrance to the court. Blues, Cliff PS- I'm going skydiving so I'll let you ponder this all weekend. l, Had the suspect not resisted arrest, this would not have happened. Being poor, defenseless, black, or a woman had nothing to do with it.

He was a bigot why? Often that's just how people are raised and they never rise above . Blues, Cliff Blood of Melenek II

You're leaving out the broken tail light and windshield. __________________________________________________ But the officer stated that the reason he stopped her was for speeding. He didn't start writing up the other charges until after he fired mega volts into the poor, defensless,Black woman. Blues, Cliff Blood of Soloman

So hey, don't write her a ticket, just arrest her for driving without a license. _________________________________________________ That won't work. If the speeding charge is bogus the police had no reason to pull her over and demand her papers. If I defend her the Lady walks! Blues, Cliff can't think of the name but I am related to one of the greatest lawyers of all time

Also, did you ever think that maybe the speed was determined using other methods? __________________________________________________ You mean like ,perhaps, pacing? Because if the cop was pacing her car,and he had an accurate tally of her speed.., He was speeding as well. When the police break the law there is no law, only anarchy.-Billy Jack Blues, Cliff Direct descendant of Geronimo ,Curly,and Larry

QuoteI honestly can't tell if you are being serious.... Andy Kauphman is God. "Nietzsche Is Dead" -GOD- Blues, Cliff Wisdom of Soloman

Hating "whitie", Storm? In todays atmosphere of political correctness that term has been replaced with "Blue-eyed devil". Please make a note of it! Blues, Cliff 2nd cousin to Louis Farrakan Blood brother to Al Franken

__________________________________________________ Gee Ron, aren't you the little judge and jury twinn pack! Have you ever heard of the idea of innocent until proven guilty? The woman obviously should never have been pulled over as the equipment has serious technical flaws. The equipment is not suited to distinguish between speed and vibration. As a matter of fact, the equipment utilizes vibration to determine speed. Ever hear of the tuning fork? Ever hear of reasonable doubt? When will We put our foot down and demand an end to this Facist ,police state??? What has happened to Freedom in the land where we have govwernment agents demanding our"papers please"? No .Ron, the woman isn't guilty becasuse of what you *think* you saw on video. As a matter of fact, all video is too easily manipulatable to ever stand as "evidence" in any fair and just court. Blues, Cliff Wisdom inherited from Soloman Bullshit inherited from Cojohnes the Bull

[reply His "Hymie town" comment defined him. __________________________________________________ That comment would be one of a *bigot*, not necessarily a "racist". Blues, Cliff Blood of Soloman the wise.

Wow. 18 posts in under 24 hours. You're doing well. __________________________________________________ You're counting? Should I be scared? You're not one of those internet stalkers ,are you? Truth is, I've had an inordinate amount of free time the last day or two as I'm home with a severe case of the runs . If you'ld like I can post a JPG you can hang in your shrine to me!. Blues, Cliff Blood of Melenik II Direct decsendant of Geronimo and Dolly Madison

[replyThen we must be using 2 different dictionarys. My Merrian-Webster lists bigot as a synonym for racist. It also fails to mention that a racist believes his race has the right to rule another. __________________________________________________ If the book contains the definition you describe then the book is wrong. No legitimate definition of Racist can leave out that the "superior" race has a right to rule the inferior. Bigot, racist and predjudiced are three distinct words with three precise and very different meanings. Archie Bunker is a bigot. Hitler was a racist. Blues, Cliff Blood of Melenik II

But you should have no doubts about America's generosity. __________________________________________________ Generosity? Yeah right. You think we're giving out cash handouts? Do some research ,John. Get back to us when you understand how this "Aid" works. Blues, Cliff Descendant of Geronimo

We know that's not the case because she was on her cell phone. Try again. _________________________________________________ Sorry Counsler ,you are speculating. Talking on a cell phone does not preclude a member of race from listening to the stereo at full blast while eating a bucket of finger lickin'good! Blues, Cliff Blood of Melenek II

?????? She got pulled over for: 1. Doing 51 in a 35. __________________________________________________ Clear case of "driving while black"! Do you have any idea how radar works? Do you realize that vibrations from stereo speakers can register as speed to a radar? So the sista' was gettin' down to some MC Hammer . Is that so wrong? OK, if it was MC Hammer she should be locked up, but you see where I'm comin' from. Blues, Cliff Blood of Melenek II and the Archduke Ferdinand on my fathers side. Direct decsendant of Geronimo and Dolly Madison on my mothers. 4th cousin twice removed to George W. Bush

[ Since the definition of a racist is synonomist with a bigot, here is the dictionary definition. __________________________________________________ No, you are wrong. The two are not "synonymous". There is a very large difference between a racist and a bigot. Mainly that a "racist" believes that one race is inherently superior to another and(and this the important part) the superior race has a right to rule over the inferior race. Blues, Cliff big·ot n. One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.

I agree. I also think Clinton will do a better job than Koffi. Clinton will also be among those with similar principles and morality. __________________________________________________ And the American "sheeple" will be more willing to accept UN troops in our country if they are sent by an American UN President. Blues, Cliff

Obviously it does. Ok, so prove it. I've yet to see anything factual. __________________________________________________ You've not been following this thread veryclosely, have you? Blues, Cliff

__________________________________________________ The people or the estates of people for whom they worked. Blues, Cliff Ok, who are they? __________________________________________________ I'm not sure. I know that it is fair and just that any person who can show documented proof that their anscetors were worked without compensation by a particular slaveowner recieve compensation from that slaveholders estate, even if that estate has already been divided. Blues, Cliff

Who owes them money? __________________________________________________ The people or the estates of people for whom they worked. Blues, Cliff

Okay, so when did congress say "fuck that" ? Until they do, I don't see any problems. __________________________________________________ It matters not what Congress does or doesn't do, Justin. Fact is the Executive is not in compliance with the rules of law and has violated the trust of the people. If the people cannot trust their government, the Executive, The Legislative, or the Judicial branches to abide by our Constitution there is only one remedy. So what are you going to do? Going to let them send your kids off to foreign lands to die in an illegal war? Or are you going to kick them out of their positions and brring them up on charges? Oh! I misspoke. There are two things you can do under those circumstances. I overlooked the fact that cowardly men can approve of their governments illegal actions and try to convince others that an illegal government isn't all that bad of a master. Blues, Cliff

Less than a billion years. Technically, it's correct. Now do you have a point or do you just like typing? _________________________________________________ I see you are trying to make the same point twice. Sorry. You missed the reason for the rules both times. Blues, Cliff

Well, I'm sure he is sorry that he didn't call you personally and tell you what the estimated duration was. __________________________________________________