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__________________________________________________ I can't get in to any court carrying a firearm ,even though it is my Right, Mr.Quade. That is the point of this thread The duty of the courts is to uphold the Rights of the Citizens. The courts themselves deny the citizens the Rights outlined in the 2cnd ammendment. They also subject the Citizens to unlawful search but we'll save that for another thread. The fact that every court in the USA denies the Citizenry their 2nd ammendment Rights proves those courts illegitimate. IMO,ofcourse. Blues, Cliff

You also aren't allowed to take a gun on an airliner or into the White House or any other Federal Building. I think any reasonable individual would understand why. __________________________________________________ Please explain why. Ps; LOL! I like that "allowed " thing. In the land of the Free and the home of the Brave! Blues, Cliff

__________________________________________________ Interesting! Let me ask you this. Do you consider standing up to a superior force on a battlefield where your death is a probable certainty "suicide". You are purposely misreading me just to be contentious. __________________________________________________ I'm not reading or misreading anything,rehmwa, I'm simply asking your opinion. " Do you consider standing up to a superior force on a battlefield where your death is a probable certainty "suicide" ?" Blues, Cliff

[Fortunately we live in a society where we actually have laws and they are not up for interpretation by individuals to suit themselves. In otherwords, you're opinion in this matter, while it may be valid for you, simply doesn't count when it comes to the law.________________________________________________________________________________________________ Actually, and I know this concept will be very hard for you to accept so sleep on it a while. Laws *are* up for interpretation by individuals to suit themselves. Ya see, government derives it's just power from the *consent* of the governed. If I opt out , or if I never signed that permision slip. your government has no "just power" over me. If you decide to opt in , well than sure,abide by the rules your legislative branch and your judges declare. Don't expect me to take part. I refuse to be "ruled " by any man or by the whims of any group of men. Rights ,however, are not subject to the whims of a majority or any group of men. Blues, Cliff

QuoteDude, you're hysterical and really barking up the wrong branch. If you read the Constitution it says nothing about private citizens and the right to bear arms. It does say so in relationship to militias. However, it was the courts that interpreted it to include private citizens and they have been the ones protecting your right to bear arms. __________________________________________________ I don't know about the "courts" but I also interpreted it to include private citizens. As far as your statement that the "courts" are protecting this Right, How can you reconcile that statement with the fact that Citizens are prohibited from carrying a firearm into every/any court house in the US? Blues, Cliff

In other words, don't kill yourself for a freaking 'cause'. __________________________________________________ Interesting! Let me ask you this. Do you consider standing up to a superior force on a battlefield where your death is a probable certainty "suicide". Blues, Cliff

__________________________________________________ What's going to get worse? The news article didn't mention what charges the defendant faced, the evidence against him, or any defense counter. This guy was found guilty of tax evasion. So is it the tax evasion problem you expect to get worse? Or are you saying that the man was innocent of the charges? If you believe the court found an innocent man guilty ,can you site any legal reasoning? Blues, Cliff

Or when a sports team wins a major game in the US,the crowds riot and burn cars. Blues, Cliff

http://www.arabnews.com/?page=4§ion=0&article=64479&d=28&m=5&y=2005 __________________________________________________ To quote the article you provided "No one claimed responsibility for the bombing, and Ahmed said police were trying to identify the attacker." So once again can you provide any evidence that "peace-loving Muslims" are reponsible for any of these incidents? Blues, Cliffi

How many times have you heard people bragging that they were able to drink an entire bottle of hard liquor. Actually if you research that matter you will find that most of the time these people are lying as it would actually have put them at above a .6 which is never surviveable. ________________________________________________ Actually it is easily possible. If you have teenagers in your house chances are the bottle of liquor you are drinking from is half waster.

A little common sense will clear everything up for you. If you break into my house trying to kill me. I will blow your head off with my shotgun, and then I will walk over to the door and shoot ten other idiots headed for my house before they get there. __________________________________________________ Hmm. I'm thinking EMTs,police responders, the nosy neighbor out walking his dog who wants to see what all the commotion is about. Probably not a good policy. You might want to first determine if those other ten intend to do you harm before you open fire. I doubt that the majority of the residents of Hiroshima or Nagasaki had the means or the desire to harm the US. Certainly they weren't on the border or even heading here. Blues, Cliff

. The kamakazi pilots wore the Japanese uniforms, Oh! It's all about fashion then? I doubt the Iraqi Resistance Forces have alot of funding for *spiffy* uniforms. Does their niggardly finances make them less brave? Blues , Cliff

I agree with the right to bear arms and that it shouldn't be taken away from the people. __________________________________________________ You agree with the Right to bear arms? But you think it only applies "part time"? Do you are do you not believe that the Right to bear arms and any Right for that matter, is full time? Blues, Cliff

]Before the case is even heard you can't have your firearm in any court!!!!! They will not allow you to enter!!!!! Oh come on, I believe in the right to bear arms Do you? Do you believe that the Right shall not be infringed? I don't want people to have them with them in court! ___________________________________________________ Shall not be infringed. Are you gettin' it? It's not about what you want ,Guym It's all about the Constitution, "shall not be infringed" That is what the Constitution says. It doesn't mention "infringements " based on entrance to court rooms, oh no. In fact court rooms are the exact places which we should expect our Rights to be upheld!!!!! But today courtrooms deny us our Right to bear arms. Those courts aren't legit Blues, Cliff .

such a surrender document get signed, while not under duress? ___________________________________________________ I give up ,Bud. How does a document ,given those circumstances, get signed without duress? Is it possible? Blues, Cliff

I likes to drink too . . . __________________________________________________ So you like to drink. Nothing wrong with that, And in your absence I'll be more than happy to protect your Rights. We are all in this together ,Lad. My Rights are the same as yours, dontcha know. Be vigilant, Cliff

Before the case is even heard you can't have your firearm in any court!!!!! They will not allow you to enter!!!!! Oh come on, I believe in the right to bear arms and own and use them myself but even I don't want people to have them with them in court! Here's a clue Pal, "will not be infringed" . " but even I don't want people to have them with them in court! " Clue #2 ,Maurice. What you "want" doesn't have any bearing on what the 2cnd ammendment says. Listen up " the right to bear fire arms shall not be infringed. That means that We have a right to carry fire arms to court, around in our daily lives, Oh yeah, and down to the IRS office if they call us in for an interview. Although I can't imagine why anyone would legitimize them by granting an interview. Blues, Cliff

QuoteSH did not live up to the cease fire agreement at the end of the gulf war. That "agreement" was made uder duress. It was not binding on any of the parties. ________________________________________________ Should we have just said, "never mind, you don't have to comply after all?" Germany was allowed to violate the terms of the treaty of Versailles. Many thought they were not a threat. They were wrong. _______________________________________________ Are you talking about germany or Iraq? The fact is that Iraq was forced to sign a treaty under duress. You do understand that concept of law , don't you,my friend? Blues , Cliff

Just because you claim that UBL's claim of responsibility was fabricated does not make it so. That is very true ,my freind. Couild you please post "proof" that Osamas' video is legit? I knew that you couldn't! That tape is of a fat black guy . He be waitin' on the KFC truck to come on down the road. Osama is more a bean sprouts and shish-ka-bob type . Certainly he aint got no fat ,wide nose. Look at yo' Mama! Blues , Cliff

[Here is the Al Qaeda training manual. LOL!!!! Did you buy into that? Really? i wonder why you would more readilly accept a conspiracy theory which claims Arabs attacked us ,over one which claims that our own Government attacked us. Given those two scenarios, which group do you believe had enough resourses to carry out the attacks? Blues, Cliff http://www.usdoj.gov/ag/trainingmanual.htm

When one considers the fact that the 2cnd ammendment agrees that we have a right to bear arms with no encumbrences. One must consider all those who would seek to deny a Man of this Right. Here is an interesting fact; If you depend on the government and the "courts" to protect your Rights, you are fuckin' up!!!! Before the case is even heard you can't have your firearm in any court!!!!! They will not allow you to enter!!!!! Not infringed? LOL!!!!! The very court which you expect to support the Constitution won;t recognize your Right to Bear Arms. And you expect to find Justice there? why? Blues, Cliff

__________________________________________________ So you got any answers ,Big Guy? Any proof which would justify sending my brother and 1600+ more to die? Do you have any proof that Osama or Afgahnistan was responsible for the crimes of 9-11? If you do please post it now. Fair Winds, Cliff

Is thtat how it went down? Man, I've been blind. But like ol' whatshisname from the bible, the scales have been removed from my eyes, and I can see now! LOLOLOL!!! __________________________________________________ Sometimes laughter is due to nervousness. I wonder Michelle if you have attempted to educate yourself. Have you clued in and listened to David Ray Griffins' lecture? If you have blindly believed and followed the administration since 9-11 I understand why you are nervously laughing. It is hard to admit you were wrong for so many years. It will be even harder to look in the widows face when both of you know it was all for a lie! Blues, Cliff Ciels- Michele

If you are paying such close detail, you'd realize my name is spelled with one L. _________________________________________________ 1600+ Americans dead ,hundreds of thousands more injured and mentally deranged and you want to talk about a spelling error in your name? It isn't all about you Michellllle . Back to the topic at hand (which is whether or not SH sponsored AQ in Iraq in 99), there has been interesting claims made that Ramsey Yousef traveled to the US in '93 for the first WTC attack using an iraqi passport; simply something else to consider. And do you have any evidence to support these claims? Do you have any evidence to support the claim that Osama Ben Ladin or any Arab had any hand in the 9-11 incidents? We have already gone to war over this Michelle. Please justify the killing and maiming of so many on this Bin Ladin evidence, Can you" Is there any evidence? Produce it. Blues, Cliff Ciels- Michele

[] Well, the admission/claim of responsibility is on a video tape. Oh yes, "video tape". And the tape couldn't ever be manipulated , could it Michelle. The other day I saw Fred Astair dancing with J Lo. Besides, have you watched the tape to which you refer,Michelle? It is an obvious forgery. Bin Laden aint black and his nose ain't at all flat and wide. Also he don't eat at no Kentucky Fried Chicken! Blues, Cliff