eaglenrider

Some say it is the same thing and certainly * Tasers* have killed! Here is something which is interesting to me; Recently in the UK the police went to take down some who were suspected of being involved in the terrorist bombings of the tube. They deployed a Taser weapon during the arrest. Just a few days earlier they shot an innocent man at least 5 times after he was already subdued. Why didn't they use a Taser? Anyone? Might I suggest that the "Brazilian" had information which MI5 and the Israelis didn't want made public? Could the Brazilian have known who was actually responsible for the 7/7 bombings? Blues, Cliff

You were doing so well up until this part. then you shot any plausibility out the window. __________________________________________________ At first I heard it was definately "military type explosives" , but then I heard it was explosives of the "home- made varaiety". Does anyone have a similar memory? Blues, Cliff

Well now I'm hearing that the Brazilian wasn't ,after all, wearing a "thick padded coat", but rather he was sportin' a light weight "blue jean jacket". I'm also hearing that he didn't actually "vault the turnstile" ,but rather that he used his trans-card to go through the turnstile. Has anyone else come across this information? I've also heard reports which indicate this "Brazilian" had information which might implicate the Israelis and MI5 in the 7/7 bombings. Has anyone heard similar accounts? Blues, Cliff

As I'm sure you'll recall, the wager wasn't with you but with Errol. So sure, in the spirit of openness I'll stick a jump ticket on Errol's account at his DZ. Simply post verifiable proof you're a jumper and tell us where you jump and the jump ticket's all his. __________________________________________________ Oh. So you are waffling now. Before you were so certain I didn't even jump that you would put money on it. Now when I ask you to bet with me you jabber and blow. So do you think I skyjump or no,lawyer guy? Ready to put up some bucks? How about $500 US? Blues, Cliff

But you won't. Know what that says about your credibility? __________________________________________________ I'm not concerned about my "credibility". Do you want to remain ignorant of the facts? Blues, Cliff

Quoteand i suppose you think we've placed the Israeli woman who has died on the bus in London there on purpose to make it more convincing? __________________________________________________ What does that have to do with Al-Queida? Blues, Cliff

__________________________________________________ I could provide you all kinds of links but you'ld just want to argue about the sourc. Look, it is a fact. Even the director of the FBI has acknowledged that some of the "hijackers" on the list are alive and kickin'. You're a big boy. Do your own research. I've placed the carrot in front of your nose. Walk down the path. And hey.., what about that wager? You said you were willing to bet I wasn't one of those "skydivers". Will you wager $40.00 ? Blues, Cliff

__________________________________________________ Why would they ban me? Blues, Cliff

Calling a moderator full of shit? haha - bye. __________________________________________________ Hello ,Hello, I don't know why you say good bye when I say hello. Show me. __________________________________________________ You mean you don't know? Nearly 4 years later and you haven't done the research? You don't know that seven are confirmed alive? You know ,mr2mk1g, Freedom comes at a price. The price is that citizens must stay informed and participate. Don't try to cop out that you are a Brit . What happens here does have a direct effect on the UK. Shame on you for believing the government story without conducting your own independant research. Blues, Cliff

Who's the guy in the video's then? __________________________________________________ You mean the broad nosed black guy? I don't know who he is but it ain't Osama. __________________________________________________ Show me. Cos it aint half odd how there's footage of them boarding the planes and then the planes flew into buildings. __________________________________________________ Oh? Have you seen footage of the "hijackers" boarding the planes? This is a very interesting development!!!! Can you direct us to this footage? One thing that is certain.., seven of the accused are alive. They must not have been on those planes. Blues, Cliff PS ; about those passenger phone calls, talk to Bill Von. Seems he was working on a system to make cell phone calls from jumbo jets possible at sometime after 9-11. BUT IT COULD BE THAT HE'S JUST FULL OF SHIT!!!! Blues, Cliff

Well , I don't guess I have to say much here. Your government lied to you! The lie was orchestrated. The heroic assault on the hospital is a proven hoax perpetrated by the US government. The whole Jessica Lynch story was a lie! Do you believe that in the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave there is room for the government to lye to the people? How many of you fell for the Jessica Lynch story? How many of you fell for the Weapons of Mass Destruction story? Are you alright with your government feeding you lies? Just wondering. Blues, Cliff

You just won't give it a rest, will you? __________________________________________________ What if you knew her and saw her dead on the ground? How could you run when you know? Blues, Cliff

Interesting to me, The other day I came across a website that claimed to have a picture of the only Al-Queida cell ever casptured. I'm wondering , does anyone know of any Al-Queida cell captured, prosecuted in a legfal court,and found guilty? Oh, that Al-Queida cell the article referenced, they were Mossad agents recruiting Palestinians in Palestine. That's right., Michelle, Israelis recruiting terrorists. I wonder why. Blues, Cliff

It only took about 20 to pull off the attacks of September 11. __________________________________________________ Of those twenty 7 have been confirmed as "alive and kickin' ". Don't know why the FBI hasn't taken their names and pics off the "official "website. One thing is certain though.., If the FBI is wrong in it's list of hijacking terrorists that day, we are wrong to assume that it was muslims(al-queida) who are responsible for that incident. Anyone have any evidence that it was Arabs? Anyone? Blues, Cliff

__________________________________________________ Hey Guy, You are the one killing people in the war on terror whose main target was Osama after the WTC bombings. Seems your CIChimp could provide you some proof he's alive and sa threat. But wait,.. no one ever really bothered to prove that any arab had anything to do with the collapse of the Twinn towers, did they? DID THEY? You are over there fighting the "Terrorists" and killing and maiming innocent "collaterals". Do you have any proof that Osama is alive or that he had anything to do with 9-11? I can show you proof that he was a CIA operative. I can't show you any documents terminating that arrangement. Can you? Blues, Cliff

LORD OF THE SKY?

Osama died in December '01 accoreding to an Egyptian death certificate. He had some kidney problems ya know and dialysis is kind of tough to find in the mountains what with the power disruptions from all those bombings ,dontcha' know. So why would you expect support for a dead man to rise? I would congradulate the US for immortalizing Osama! He's been dead for four years and still he is the face of evil personified, the poster child of TERROR. Blues, Cliff

And here I was, thinking you might just be my knight in shining armour. Drat and darn and drat again. I geddit...that's why you won't tell us where you jump! __________________________________________________ You know.., I have enough problems with groupies as it is. Can you imagine if I posted my home DZ??? Hopefully you can satiate your desires by knowing that you are in the same sky as I this weekend. OK.., I know that won't put out the fires burning in your loins, but I'm sure there are some "very nice boys" closer to your home. Forget about me , Michelle.., I'd leave you with a broken heart. Blues, Cliff

You mean the jews in their government? __________________________________________________ No, I mean what I said.., the Israeli government. __________________________________________________ Dear Eagllenrider, I do realize it. Similar to all the other spying which goes on, in every country, by everyone. __________________________________________________ So you love the Israeli government even as you know they spy on us constantly"? Even knowing that they are stealing our secrets and selling them to the Chinese? Do you realize ,Michelle ,that we give the Israelis over $10 billion each year? And you still love them even when they spy on us? Now Im starting to have serious doubts about this thing working out between you and I, Michelle. If I give you $10 Billion, I'll feel betrayed if you take all my top secrets and sell them to the Chinese! But you seem to thinkthat's OK and accepted behaviour amongst freinds. Blues, Cliff I do not support that particular action, but I most certainly support Israel and the Jews. Especially against hatemongers and conspiracies that have no place in reasoning and logical minds; conspiracies like the ones you support live deep in the darkest recesses of the minds like David Icke, the man who believes in Reptilian Shape Changers and whatnot. People like him are rather difficult to take seriously, especially after one looks a little more closely at the supposed evidence they demonstrate. Like Wen Ho Lee and Clinton? What is it about Israel that you loathe so much? As for my researching, that hasn't a thing to do with your conspiracy theories. as for the 'Truth', as you say, being recognized, it is not your truth which is real. Therefore, it isn't truth. And btw... You still haven't answered my questions. What have you got against the Jews? (questioning me about my beliefs is not an adequate answer...'Don' that thinking cap, if you can, and see if you can't come up with your own reasons...) And where do you jump? Please be a peach and answer... Ciels- Michele

I don't place wagers, thanks. And there's no other "action" you could offer me that I'd be even the slightest bit interested in. __________________________________________________ LOL!! That's funny stuff!! Good on Ya!! __________________________________________________ So no thanks. __________________________________________________ "no thanks."? HEH.., HuH,HUH!!!..., you already coming back for the action ,Darlin'. You never had to respond to my posts but you couldn't hep yo'self. "no thanks."? HEH,,HEH! OK, Doll. __________________________________________________ None...and you're right. I am a Honey. __________________________________________________ And you were just dying to let m know! LOL! "no thanks." ? LOL!"don't want that action"LOL Listen Michelle, all this bulshit is unnecesary. Try PM ing me but be more civil, more like honey and less vinegary . That's how to get a better chance at what you need. Blues, Cliff

So, Eaglenrider, before you get banned again, where do you jump, and what exactly is your problem with Jews? __________________________________________________ I have no problem with Jews. I do have a problem with the Israeli Government . The Israeli government has been spying on the US for quite some time. I don't know,Michelle, whether or not you realize this. Michelle, you portray yourself as a patriot. As such do you support countries which have attacked US Navy Vessels and tried to make us believe it was an Egyptian attack? Would you support a supposed ally who stole US secrets and sold them to the Chinese? What is it about Israel , Michelle, which you love so much? Why do you love Israel before your own country? Or is it that you just have not researched enough to know the Truth ? Blues, Cliff

So...where do you jump? __________________________________________________ Listen, Do you doubt that I'm a fancy lad sky jumper like y'all? Do you doubt that I have one of those *body bag suits* with the easy grip(tm) solution? Do you want a piece of the action? Ask Treejumps if he paid up on the wager we made on another thread. So how much you in for ,Honey? Blues, Cliff PS, all my winnings will go toward educating newbies so wager large , wager often. In the old days those kids would get help for free. Nowadays they have to pay outrageous sums for a little coachin. Michele

Damn Bro, relax. I just asked where you jump. So where do you jump? __________________________________________________ (Pointing).., Up there. Blues, Cliff

__________________________________________________ That's the second time you asked. You do realize that I'm trying to get mr2mk1mgmMCA to commit to a wager ,don't you? Do you "Gravitymaster " want some of the betting action? How much are you willing to wager on whether or not I'm one of those sky jumpers? Blues, Cliff

Both would be great, thanks. __________________________________________________ Here's an article that just popped up. The site may have an agenda but they also link the interview I can link to other sites if you prefer, but this one just came up with no digging. Blues, Cliff (edited to add link!!!!! LOL!!! Don't know where my head is today! Hey no helpful suggestions !!!) http://www.onlinejournal.com/Commentary/071305Leonard/071305leonard.html